: > [{quoted}](name=Jesperr101,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JVod9g0s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-23T17:12:56.960+0000) > > Flaming back is never a great idea. i dont flame back, i %%%% their mommas as soon as they start, i've invested some money in this game but if some morons which are often pure trash can do their shitty talk i will reply and still %%%% their mommas and if i get banned i will just quit this game and find another one.. this one is stressful anyway
> i %%%% their mommas as soon as they start Case closed.
krv ker crn (EUNE)
: Permanently banned for answering
>I do not know what are you in riot community doing,but you just permanently banned me No we didn't, Riot did. > for answering to people that wrote death threats to me Sure, that's not nice but we all know that there are idiots in the game. Mute them > I wrote tot hem is I quote 'you are garbage' 'lowkey monkey' and 'stupid kids' In two games Never respond to flamers. They are trolling you, don't give them the attention that they crave. >And of course Riot only provided what I wrote,and not what were other people writing ,talking about Irrelevant what they said. You flamed back, you got reported. If you reported them and they get punished, then they will get chatlogs of what they said, and not what you said. That's how it works. >Thank you so much Riot games for supporting feeders They don't. They have a feederbuster system to prove it. >and premades Being premade makes no difference to anything. >Riot games wanted to make game for gamers? Correct. More specifically they want to make a game that people enjoy and not have to endure being flamed. >U even removed 'unskilled player' from report list since u match 2 different divisions with unrankeds,well done,game for gamers,what a %%%%ing joke. Apparently it didn't do anything anyway; it was a placebo. And anyway, since when has being unskilled been a good reason to ban anyone? Ok, I get you...you feel hard done by because you were the victim of toxicity, and that is not good. We ALL have this some time, the difference is that the majority of us either ignore it or mute the offending players. The mistake you made was by being toxic back to them. By doing that, you reduced yourself to their level. Feelsbad, that that's the truth of it.
Wannes (EUW)
: Summoners age 40+
The Old Skool Coffin Dodgers club (TOSCD) is now in existence :)
: I once got a riot warning after a loosing game where i did not int and did not say a single word. Toxic people use reports for toxic reasons. But usually, this does not go any further than this. You have to be actually toxic to be punished after being reported. I wish calling report in itself was also a punishable offense.
>I wish calling report in itself was also a punishable offense. It is reportable. It counts as Negative Behaviour.
: Way to turn of Game invites?
Friend request sent ;)
Gene (EUNE)
: thanks, but i dont think you can play with me, im on eune and you're euw. :c
Then, I will do it in spirit instead ;) Good luck
Gene (EUNE)
: When being positive does not cut it anymore...
I feel your pain mate. You have to remember that there are some very immature people in the game who get off on spamming chat and try to get under your skin. I will join you in bot games for a while because I am currently on a bad run and attracting a lot of flame. Even muting these idiots results in you being spam-pinged instead. That is not fun. FWIW, I have had starts to games like that too and it is so hard not to tilt; if your team turn against you too then suddenly you have 9 enemies instead of 5.
Zutha (EUW)
: Heh I had this last night. Got reported by all 4 members of team cause i was "useless".... Doesn't matter that they told me to get cancer, die, %%%% my mum etc etc... I was the one worthy of a report :D
Don't worry, the reports won't do anything. And...I very much doubt that those other players did actually report you, mostly people say "Report x for y" just to tilt you. They are trolls, don't give them the satisfaction. I am always getting report called for being noob/useless/feeder etc because....well, I am useless and people don't want me on their team tbh. If those people had actually reported me I probably would still not be banned because there is no intent to ruin other people's games, just a lack of skill.
: 0-5 camille, you highlighted wrong person
Camille actually looks like she was trying though. She's got CS and has built Triforce. She could be new to Camille or new to the game. There is NO WAY that you could say that Camille was worse than TF, because it looks like she was NOT intentionally feeding!
Serpento (EUW)
: I'm not asking for fancy loading screens and luxurious champion select. I expect a company with that budget to make a bug-free client. they aren't new, and this isn't the first time they try to make a fresh client but fail horribly. They deserve to be criticized. And if it's still in beta then why would you just shove it down people's throats?
They don't 'shove it down our throats', you can still use the legacy client whilst the new one is in Beta.
Joze Panj (EUNE)
: IP GRINDING (OPEN MID) question??? Rito answer pls
Just play the game and stop fart-arsing around with other people's time.
Rioter Comments
clawblood (EUNE)
: Are Marksmen getting replaced with Ability power carries on bot lane ?
At first I was a bit unsure about this shift in the meta but I am actually starting to like the variety. Rather that just picking the same old combinations and builds from a fairly limited pool of ADC's and Supports, I now am forced to think a bit more about which champions and builds to use. I've not been around here for long but it is good to have a bit of a change; it keeps the game from getting too boring and predictable.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: There probably isn't, at least not currently. Remember that replays will only work for the current version, so once there's a new patch, your old replay files won't work. The tournament server is often played on one patch prior to the live one.
Is there a way to at least watch challenger players' games? I would really like to be able to closely watch how 'proper' players play.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Won't be possible, considering the pro games are run on an offline tournament server.
Shame there isn't a way for riot to make them available for us. Thanks
: Ahh if only you could watch pro matches directly from the client using the spectate system.
Yeah, that i what I was wondering.
Rioter Comments
: I am not saying its the team, i Am saying its coaparation, not only on team but also me with the team. But then when u are hittig the nexus and there are 3 of u there and one decides to dive fountin then u can blame him if the enamy's kill all 3 of us and one did not hit the nexus once
Yeah, there are a fair number of clowns down here in Bronze :)
TeeTohr (EUW)
: Yeah the streamer was playing soraka with bananas !
No one expects the banana!
TeeTohr (EUW)
: I know that you can use a trackball and for a joystick I don't know but this is surely possible because players already managed to play with ps4 controller or even bananas
>or even bananas {{champion:16}}
: Yh, but the weird thing was that the trist was champion mastery 5 and kept saying wait and see as if she going to make a comeback, instead fed more and went afk probably from rage. I would expect someone at that champ level to be decent.
Yeah well, Level 5 is a symbol of tenacity rather than skill ;)
: >Yeah, that is a pretty poor effect. Full AP Blitz support says otherwise xD But really, I wouldn't mind a rework. His kit is incredibly binary. It just consists of Q, E, ult, BM. Nothing more, nothing less. It's as bad as pre-rework Shen in my opinion.
>Q, E, ult, BM haha
ngempuq (EUW)
: I guess its a question of preference, I dont like playing against him.
Sure, I don't like him, he's annoying. But if we only played against weak/easy opponents then the game would be very boring imo.
: Noobs, Noobs Everywhere
>When trist died he/she wanted to report me. Sounds about right. Tristana jumps into a 1v2 situation, leaving you behind. Dies and then blames you...been there many times.
ngempuq (EUW)
: He should be removed from game.
Nah, I disagree. He does offer an interesting challenge as an opponent in lane.
: BlitzCrank
>R offers only 0.5 seconds of silence which is the lowest duration of silence in game. Yeah, that is a pretty poor effect. I think a rework would be good.
abraklaas (EUW)
: What is fun?
I don't know if 'fun' is the right word for it but I really enjoy playing Soraka. People say she is boring, but I don't get that if i'm honest. I guess that she is my main (100k+ mastery & Level 7) although I haven't played her so much of late. But when I do, I always get a certain satisfaction from it. There is something about frustrating the enemy with a well timed heal or global ult that makes me laugh. Having an enemy shouting "FCK YOU SORAKA!" as you are preventing a team mate from dying is hilarious. Silencing them with your E when they are moving in to engage, slowing them with starcall and getting some health and rejuvenation; what's not to like?. It frustrates the hell out of them :) You can be aggressive with AA and Q early, or be passive and just sustain your ADC.Sure, the recent W nerf was a bit of a pain but it didn't have as much effect as I feared. I don't know what it is but I just enjoy playing her. {{champion:16}} 'For life!"
: Bronzyes don't know how to play competativaly
Can I just say, on behalf of us Bronze players, that the OP does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the rest of us. I am bronze because I still am not that good at the game. I have many Bronze friends who are also aware that they still have a lot to learn about the game. I also have friends who have been playing a long time but don't have the time to play because of other commitments in their lives, so it makes it harder for them to climb. The "it's not me, it's my team" mentality IS their in a lot of bronze players, but most of us are not as deluded as the OP. Thank you for listening :)
314exeexe (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wa5abi65,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8XMoKQqQ,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-01-18T13:57:21.977+0000) > > No....he clearly said: > > not that they ARE average. they are
: It's not completely fine, no newcomer is going to be 'average' at the game, only a small percentage are, the rest are garbage and will have to learn the game to get better and should, from the start, get put in Bronze.
314exeexe (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Perilum,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8XMoKQqQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-18T13:43:56.419+0000) > > Silver is Average. > Bronze is below Average. > > Fresh level 30's are first treated like Average. > It's completely fine. You are making the false assumption that someone who rush 30 into ranked is average
No....he clearly said: >Fresh level 30's are first **treated like** Average. not that they ARE average.
Perilum (EUW)
: Don't leave games and fix your problems. You don't get punished for one or two times. You do that regularly.
Actually, this is not true. I have only ever dodged one game in champion select (a normal about 1 month ago). A couple of days ago, I went into a ranked match and the client started glitching out and dc'd during the bans stage. I didn't get to ban because of this. When I went back to queue up again, I got the message about leaving the game and had to sit out a **30 minute** penalty. I also noticed that 10 LP had been deducted!! So, not taking any chances, I restarted the client and joined the queue...in champion select, the same thing; I get dumped out and get ANOTHER 30 minute penalty and 10 LP deduction. I am not someone who dodges (apart from that 1 occasion last month), My internet connection is fine. The intermittent dc's only happen in the client (not in game) and have been occurring on and off for a long time now. On this particular day, the client had been behaving itself so I felt confident going into a ranked game. Yes, I do feel unfairly treated.
Wannes (EUW)
: Club is made, I have sent you an invite. Teaming up premade with Discord later on sounds like a fine idea.
I have set up a Discord channel [https://discord.gg/r5y6Z](https://discord.gg/r5y6Z) Kids and toxics need not apply ;)
Rismosch (EUW)
: I don't think so. People are smart. Toxic players could vote C, while people who troll vote for A. Keep in mind that with trolls I don't refer to ingame trolls, but people that want to mess up the vote. I don't think that any toxic players would vote A.
I dunno, some toxic players are quite proud of being toxic. You see some of them on the boards, they are almost boasting about it.
GPet (EUW)
: Why do I have to mute and Report People to be non-toxic? q-q
True, I guess that it should be worded "ignore OR mute and Report"
DaBeastGR (EUNE)
: Premades by 2 players???
Premades don't have the right to play where they want. In champ select they might keep shouting "we are premade stfu" as if that gives them the right to play together bot; they don't. They are pre-made...not pre-allocated. But, if a bot lane duo queue together it could well mean that they are used to playing together and are more likely to be successful than 2 random players playing together for the first time. I queue with ADC's that I know whenever I can and we always ask politely to play together. Usually, others in the team agree to this. If they don't then so be it. You don't have to give up your assigned role in draft pick if you don't want to. Don't be bullied into playing a role that you are not comfortable with. Oh, and you can be premade 2,3,4 or 5 players.
: Cough, its a boosted ape test. don't forget to upvote if you are a cookie lover!
: So bc you cant play this game, now they punish me? What a logic <3
I have no idea what you are talking about. Again...you are not being punished. Get over it.
: its not a river its a lake
Actually, it's 2 lakes. They aren't connected across the midlane.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: I would like to add that pretty often they don't have the balls to go throuth with theyr threats.
Indeed, they are just trying to get you to dodge so that they don't have to. Just Call their bluff, and most of the time they will either dodge or play their assigned role.
Shiwah (EUW)
: In the same thread I linked: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563215301655
Thanks. Interesting article. What is more interesting is that this has been used to support the "age isn't correlated with negative behaviour" line. When actually: >We found significant changes in all our interaction metrics as a function of age. In summary, players become more pro-social as they age: negative interactions decrease and positive interactions increase. The effect is small at the individual level but extremely robust and significant at the group level. Adolescence is a period characterised by significant changes in important brain structures (amygdala, frontal lobes) that govern decision making (Galvan et al., 2006 and Giedd et al., 1999). The faster maturation of the limbic system, when compared to that of the frontal lobe structures, may make adolescents more prone to react to emotionally salient situations/stimuli even when their logical reasoning is intact (Casey et al., 2008, Gardner and Steinberg, 2005, Steinberg, 2004 and Steinberg et al., 2009) thus driving the overall higher level of negative interactions in younger players. So, for those looking for 'scientific evidence' (albeit rather flawed). Here it is. Like I said, there are major issues with their sampling and the conclusions are rather shaky as a result.
Shiwah (EUW)
: In fact, that is not the study... but its summary.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wa5abi65,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=rP8t4Rrj,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:20:54.299+0000) > > I am assuming that there is no ranked play there and it is all Normals, so there should be a calmer atmosphere. > Also, getting picked to play on PBE is a privilege, why would people risk getting banned? They do play ranked. Some people think it's their new main account. Free RP/IP hell let's only play PBE.
puresadist (EUNE)
: Are ADCs useless ?
Ziggs has become a pick/ban just lately. I hate that little git.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wa5abi65,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=rP8t4Rrj,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-01-17T13:04:42.301+0000) > > just out of curiosity, is bad behaviour an issue on PBE? > I always imagined that it would be quite chilled. People go afk,feed and flame alot.
That is sad. I didn't think that it would be like that.
Smerk (EUW)
: Can't say about current situation, but it was quite chilled when I played there. There are some toxicity there, but less than on main servers
I am assuming that there is no ranked play there and it is all Normals, so there should be a calmer atmosphere. Also, getting picked to play on PBE is a privilege, why would people risk getting banned?
Smerk (EUW)
: There are few possible reasons: 1. You got behaviour ban, tribunal works on pbe as well 2. Your PBE account wasn't linked to your main account and they deleted it with all other unlinked accounts 3. You didn't use it for a long time and they deleted it for inactivity. Yes, they do this kind of thing for PBE accounts
just out of curiosity, is bad behaviour an issue on PBE? I always imagined that it would be quite chilled.
Shiwah (EUW)
: If you read Humpel's thread (which I linked), the researchers used the years in people's names. You can also find the complete paper in the comments.
Which I think was fundamentally flawed. In fact, I stopped taking the 'study' seriously after reading that bit. >Many summonernames contain dates or years of birth like Humpelstilzche88 or Lyte1985 or something like that. The researchers compared these numbers to the year of birth people picked when they registered and noticed that these numbers are almost always identical, so it's probably not just a random number but the actual year of birth in most cases. So they just picked all those names with a year in it and took a look at the toxicity So, people without numbers in their names were excluded? Really bad sampling! The didn't include players who had names like: FreeTyler1<3 KindOldDude xJungleOrAFKx ChilledSummoner MakeHateNotPeace They couldn't because they don't know the ages of their playerbase with any certainty. I doubt that this 'study' got published in a peer-reviewed journal.
: It's not just collecting but I know what you mean. There's also that elo, statistics (like number of Pentas), trophies and stuff for replay-ability.
Yeah, there are so many things in the game that can keep you coming back. I think that this is why the game has become so successful. Good game developers understand the psychology behind games and what makes players want to keep playing. I think that taking away the current system of having to buy champions individually would erode some of that. You do make a good point (somewhere back there in the thread) about people who have limited time to play. It is as important to keep these players engaged as they are most likely to have jobs->more disposable income to spend. However, as someone in that category, I still find the game draws me back time and time again, even without access to all champs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=87kPlfOq,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-01-17T10:32:40.238+0000) > > whats the point of this topic again? you found a bunch of &quot;better&quot; moba games so why do you keep playing here/making useless posts? noone forces you to play lol, noone forces anyone to play lol so if you dont like it just go away... ok to be honest i wwant my money back spent on piece of shit skins .. i was dumb and childish .... so i can end my gaming life to move forward ... but untill i get my money back its a waste of money to not use the things i payed for ,, althou i dont enjoy it... i play this game just so i cant feel that i wasted money like a fkin id.iot 12 kid i was
Think of that money spent in the same way as you would if you had spent it going to the cinema or out for drinks with friends. That money is gone, you exchanged it for entertainment. Ok, so you no longer get the same entertainment from the game but you must have done at some point, or else why would you have spent the money in the first place? You know, I would like the money back that I spent taking a girl to see a film called 'The Last Emperor'. It was a 3+ hour film that was as boring as hell, and I didn't even get a shag out of it! We all spend money on stuff and later wonder why. Let it go, move on. I hope you find your happiness wherever you go next but don't expect a refund on your past life decisions.
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