: > [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=00000001000100010000000000020000,timestamp=2019-05-25T12:24:42.106+0000) > > https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/es/champions/builds/akali > > 🤔 "In LCS game" Look at your history with akali, you keep gooing on 10/20 kills+ games without any difficulties. She is obviously too strong if you know how to play her
Exactly. IF you know how to play her, but that doesnt just mean that all you have to do is know what each ability does it means that you gotta use your skills correctly. Skill gets rewarded that is all im trying to say.
: > [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=00000001000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-25T11:10:42.415+0000) > > First, i am trully gratefull for the amount of time that you might have took to search this information and secondly i'm just really complaining about the nerfs because they are obviously focusing on the pros and it's not fair for the normal player base to also recive this same treatment. Try to put yourself in Riots position. They need to change something quickly for pro play because the summer split is about to start. So they are under time pressure to make a change that's healthy for the pro scene _right now_. I think this is a huge point that people in the community forget. In the long run, they can try to balance Akali in a way that makes her stronger in soloq/lower elos and weaker or even in pro play. But how exactly would those changes look like? They don't know. I don't know. I'd guess that you don't know either? They'll probably try to figure it out and we will see Akali change a bit more. Or maybe the changes turn out to be just fine, who knows. When I play Akali, I feel like her early game is super oppressive and in the late game I can miss half my shit and still one shot the ADC or midlaner. The coming changes don't affect the early games oppressiveness at all and in late game it means that I need to hit my spells and maybe use Electrocute more often (which in turn can change the early game). To me it doesn't seem to kill her at the level I play at - which is like gold/plat. But we'll see. I'm not a psychic :D > [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=00000001000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-25T11:10:42.415+0000) > > They have an issue with the 38% of ban rate for Akali? Yes. Should it affect the champion AND the normal player base? No. This 38% banrate is for the normal player base, not the pros.
> [{quoted}](name=Bananenschnder,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=000000010001000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T11:20:21.452+0000) > > Try to put yourself in Riots position. They need to change something quickly for pro play because the summer split is about to start. So they are under time pressure to make a change that's healthy for the pro scene _right now_. I think this is a huge point that people in the community forget. > > In the long run, they can try to balance Akali in a way that makes her stronger in soloq/lower elos and weaker or even in pro play. But how exactly would those changes look like? > They don't know. I don't know. I'd guess that you don't know either? > > They'll probably try to figure it out and we will see Akali change a bit more. Or maybe the changes turn out to be just fine, who knows. I certainly hope that is the case, as you said who knows, maybe they'll figure out something to make her geniunely more balanced and at a good spot both for those who play her and also those who play against her. > When I play Akali, I feel like her early game is super oppressive and in the late game I can miss half my shit and still one shot the ADC or midlaner. The coming changes don't affect the early games oppressiveness at all and in late game it means that I need to hit my spells and maybe use Electrocute more often (which in turn can change the early game). To me it doesn't seem to kill her at the level I play at - which is like gold/plat. Well... Since akali is not that forgiving a champion you need to do well and get lots of kills early game. If that doesnt happen and they enemy knows how to space out, or is a counter pick, or their jungle actually knows when and how to gank, then your late game will be absolute garbage.. All in all, i just really hope that riot finds a way to make the champion actually balanced.
: But the problem might be then that the focus on the pro people and not on the normal player base. If we talk about the ban we can also talk about how they banned all of Faker's mains in one match and that is'nt relate to the characther but the skill of the player, and, as i said above, Akali is a characther that DOES require skill. Also, about the pick/ban topic, Yasuo and Lux are almost insta-picks if they are left open. If they want to fix the proplay, change the mechanics of the game, don't nerf the hero until the point that she'll be unplayable
> [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-05-25T10:48:12.335+0000) > > But the problem might be then that the focus on the pro people and not on the normal player base. > If we talk about the ban we can also talk about how they banned all of Faker's mains in one match and that is'nt relate to the characther but the skill of the player, and, as i said above, Akali is a characther that DOES require skill. > Also, about the pick/ban topic, Yasuo and Lux are almost insta-picks if they are left open. > > If they want to fix the proplay, change the mechanics of the game, don't nerf the hero until the point that she'll be unplayable EXACTLY!!! I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF! THAT is the problem. If akali is nerf worthy then what would riot do with lux, delete her? What would riot do with fiora? This madness needs to stop.
: I also bought a few skins and i'm one S away to get the mastery 7... It's sad because she is indeed a really fun characther to play but also requires a lot of skill and time and i dunno man, it really does feel super bad 'cause she doesn't deserve this...
> [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2019-05-25T10:41:49.943+0000) > > I also bought a few skins and i'm one S away to get the mastery 7... It's sad because she is indeed a really fun characther to play but also requires a lot of skill and time and i dunno man, it really does feel super bad 'cause she doesn't deserve this... Yeah, like i dunno if riot has something personal with her or something but she definitely doesent deserve this.. I too have played her a lot and managed to get mastery 7 but it took a lot of time and effort to get there. I really hope they bring her back to a satisfactory spot...
: > [{quoted}](name=NamSniX101,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-25T10:12:41.508+0000) > > it seem like rito doesnt realy like akali becuz when rito remove heal from q i dont see akali often like before and now they nerf her again > no i think just 1 boy champ akali play her Akali is a pick/ban AND a flex pick in pro play so they need to do something about her. The reason you don't see her might be because she still has a 38% banrate accoridng to OP.GG (which is for the Korean server though). Add to that the 13% pick rate and she is still present in everyother game even outside of proplay.
> [{quoted}](name=Bananenschnder,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-25T10:35:47.596+0000) > > Akali is a pick/ban AND a flex pick in pro play so they need to do something about her. > > The reason you don't see her might be because she still has a 38% banrate accoridng to OP.GG (which is for the Korean server though). Add to that the 13% pick rate and she is still present in everyother game even outside of proplay. Its still not fair, skill is rewarded. And also not everyone is a pro. There are normal people out there that just wanna enjoy this champ. With the incoming nerfs she is going to be useless at best.
: It's sad because i started playing this game due to the Akali rework and i'm really sad and upset about this, it's not fair.
> [{quoted}](name=ramencaliente,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=X71VJXwm,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-25T10:30:23.441+0000) > > It's sad because i started playing this game due to the Akali rework and i'm really sad and upset about this, it's not fair. I know man... I also bought her blood moon and kda skin since i really liked playing her and i actually got good at her. Why is this game always so one-sided when it comes to nerfs? Its always like: Random bronze player who doesnt know how to play against a specific champ: RITO THIS IS TOO OP WHAT IS THIS, SO BROKEN PLS NERF. Or pleople just dont underatand that skill is rewarded. And we all know how it ends at least most of the time..
: Rito, this is too much. (PBE changes for Akali)
I made a post about this problem myself.. A riot employee replied saying "Im sorry we dont fix stuff at riot games. We just make a ton of band aid buffs and wonder why vayne becomes a pick/ban every season". As you can see they just overlook the problem and say some cheap ass shit so that they can drop the topic. Its pretty unfortunate really, too bad i genuinely like this champion. Wellp if they dont do anything about it then akali mains will just go on a rampage so lets at least hope for the best.
Moetje (EUW)
: My opinion about the new very weak Akali
You are absolutely right. I made practically the same post saying that nerfing her passive is so uncalled for.. Like, are they trying to push people away from playing her and just taking all the fun away from that champ? If so then why should the champ exist as it is? This is just so unfair man....

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