: There's a punishment escalation system. There are different punishment tiers, starting from chat bans, going up to a 14 day ban last warning, and ending with the perma ban. Your honour level goes from your current one to 1, then 0, then you get a permaban. Take me for example. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264509145766428673/629828163312287744/Screenshot_2019-10-05_at_02.48.21.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264509145766428673/629828182614474760/Screenshot_2019-10-05_at_02.48.04.png I have over 300 skins. I own all the champions + a decent amount of BE (changed my name 3 times in the past month for BE). I reached the highest number of mastery points on my main champion from the whole server I'm playing on. I'd say I achieved a pretty respectable rank as well. Spent over $2500 on my account, and I'd get the same treatment as a lvl 10 account with $0 spent. Yet I'm ok with that. It would not be fair if I got a preferential treatment just because I did more than the average player. Money/time/effort spent doesn't influence anything in the eyes of the "LAW", and that's how it should be. We're all responsible for our actions, and if a person cares about their account, they should be able to draw the line, and realise what's allowed and what's not. That's my 2cents on the topic...you might disagree, you have the right to do so. However, until you play this game, you'll have to play by the company's rules. If you don't, they have all the rights to punish you, since you AGREED to this, upon account creation, when you pressed that "I AGREE" button, without reading all that legal text (nobody reads it I guess - but still, it's there).
THe punishment system is still dumb and should be handled by actual people instead of an automised bot doing what it was programmed to do. Worse than youtube's demonetization system
: No. It's more like a "We offer you an industry leading experience, where you can reach the top of the ladder by giving us ZERO cents...BUT if you break our rules you're out." LOL is one of the true free to play games around. If you think of the "MOBA" genre, you LOL jumps into your mind. Fortnite is another genre, it's not competition. Players come and go every day. The playerbase has a fluctuation (can't give you numbers here), I'd say 5-10% of the truly casual players. Who only play lol twice a year when URF is active, and mostly enjoy variety gaming. Those are the ones who'll leave the MOBA genre for a shooter. Those players will not buy RP, it's irrelevant if they leave or come back, or not. TFT was made for players like that. But for the rest of us, who enjoy the high stress and competitive environment of the Rift, there's league, and it doesn't really disappoint. You want a better MOBA ? Tough luck, there isn't one. Can't handle the punishment system ? Well unlucky...
I can handle punishment when it's according to violation. When it's unjust bullshit like this automized system in league despite hundreds of $ in my account, no I bloody well can't. When you swear on someone you get a mute, not a perma ban on a dozen legacy content that was paid for
: I feel that you have some misconceptions regarding the whole reporting/punishment system. Lemme clear up some of them for you. 1.) > out of hundreds of reports that I've personally wrote, maybe 2-3 have I been notified have actually been dealt with. The IFR system rarely triggers, due to reasons related to the reported player's privacy. Not getting feedback doesn't mean that the case was abandoned, on the contrary, every case is checked out. 2.) > all because of a faulty justice system where three trolls can agree to report me even if they started it and that's basically it, I'm banned for it. One report equals nine. You can find more info on this everywhere. 3.) > It wasn't flame or grief, just a bunch of friends using words like "fck, dck, p*ssy, etc..". The AI riot's using is not yet that advanced, to be able to perfectly differentiate between jokes, serious insults, and to take context into consideration. If you type "%%% is an acronym for Kyoei Electronics Singapore Pte. Ltd." you might get banned, due to "%%%" being a zero tolerance, insta-flagword. Is it fair? Prolly not. Can it be avoided ? Sure. 4.) > And speaking of real life scenarios, newsflash, this isn't real life. It's a video game where I've spent countless hours and dollars to play and have a good time, not to be harassed and trash talked like I do 90% of the time when I keep my cool regardless. See my point? You can look at it like that, OR, you can look at it like this : Riot games is a company. League of legends is a business. The account you play on is not yours, it is lent to you by the company. The money you spent was a donation, not a purchase. The company sets the rules, you follow them, or you're revoked access to THEIR PROPERTY. You break ANY RULE, you get punished. No shortcuts, no but moms, no I'm sorries. It's a faceless giant, it doesn't care about your day, financial status or life quality. It's here to make money, and in the process you're having fun as well. It's a win for you, it's a big win for them. You're not held a hostage. And the best thing is, you SIGNED A LEGAL CONTRACT called the TOS, upon pressing that little "agree" button, at account creation. You have no reason/rights to even be slightly bothered by this. You were given the rules from the first minute. If you want a magicac world where rules don't exist, and you can do whatever, code your own offline game, go to the dark web, or into international waters(to an extent). If you wanna be a part of civilised planet Earth, you'll abide the law, and follow the rules, because that's how it works.
So it's basically a big "gives us money and bend over please" by what you just said, it's not all that black and white and you know it. No wonder the game is losing players to Fortnite..
: > Disciplinary actions should be taken indeed, but > # out of the blue "permanently banned" In a galaxy far far away or where ? Because here, unless you sold your legacy account, or used it for botting/scripting/other hardcore punishable stuff, perma bans are BY NO MEANS out of the blue. You get 1 or 2 chat bans, followed by a 14 days LAST WARNING, then the permaban. You're given 3 "last" chances to reform. > most of us have a really bad day every once in a while and all it takes is one bad person in game to set you off the edge Translate that into a real life scenario. You had a shit day, and someone cuts in line in a way only an asshole could, and when you confront him, he tells you to f#$k off. Do you crucify said person ? Do you mass murder his family ? Do you call in on an airstrike from your CIA buddies on the guy's car ? No..not really. If you have more than a double digit IQ, you can give a response to said asshole, that won't get you into legal trouble. Take this one for example : "Hey buddy, watch out ! Your free education is showing" ... etc. You can get a bunch of good one liners that you won't get sued for - for slander, or for profanity. Some people fail to realise, prolly mostly youngsters, that internet anonymity isn't a reason in itself to unleash hell on cooldown, at the slightest provocation. So when little 11 year old 40 kilo Billy talks about having sex with someone's female relatives, perhaps he should think that said target person knows him. Without the anonymity part, he would definitely not do, what he's so great at. Long story short, act like a normal, well functioning human being, and if you really want to vent, go do some outdoors sports or pick up smoking, drink yourself to sleep, whatever, doesn't matter - until you don't start making posts about justifying getting permabanned on having shit days. I mean come on dude....fix your life issues then, instead of wasting time in front of the screen ... what are we even talkin about ?
I get where you're going with that scenario, but like every other video game ( not just League of Legends) you have people that tend to swear on occasion and call someone out. I've been harassed in the chat X times by other players and out of hundreds of reports that I've personally wrote, maybe 2-3 have I been notified have actually been dealt with. But when I slip once in 3 months I get bans, all because of a faulty justice system where three trolls can agree to report me even if they started it and that's basically it, I'm banned for it. Was the same scenario with my 7 day and 14 day ban, while there are people out there who grief on others every day and are still on functioning accounts all because some people couldn't be bothered to report them with the said person that was harassed. I remember getting a 30 game chat restriction once for not even flaming, I was in a 4 man premade with my friends and we were using swear words in the chat, like every normal functioning gang of friends does in funny conversations, and from the filtered words my chat was suspended for 30 games. It wasn't flame or grief, just a bunch of friends using words like "f*ck, d*ck, p*ssy, etc..". And speaking of real life scenarios, newsflash, this isn't real life. It's a video game where I've spent countless hours and dollars to play and have a good time, not to be harassed and trash talked like I do 90% of the time when I keep my cool regardless. See my point?
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Icy Spectre (EUNE)
: Where can I get free transfer?
Well it happens from time to time, you can transfer to other servers for 0 rp. I came here from euw few years ago for 0 rp
Varjokani (EUNE)
: How about next time u don't tell someone to "stop being retards"? ;-) I would be offended if someone called me retard. I can't be only one who feels that way. How about keep your comments short and drop the insults?
and no one cares if my skill is offended that I have to loose to worse people than me because one of mine cant get over his ego? Hard to fart today without anyone being offended. If words offend you I feel sorry for you honestly.
Silisa (EUNE)
: I understand you. Most of us here (probably) have felt your frustration before. However, most of us don't let it bother us enough to flame and get punished for it. Again, it is unfair. I know it, you know it. But there is nothing any one of us can to to change that. Those of us who can handle situations like that without raging can continue to play this game. As for you, if negative situations like that affect you that much, perhaps you need a break. Or perhaps, you need to look for another game. I am saying that as a fellow player who gets what you are going through and who wants to remind you that, for most of us, this is just a game. If you are not having fun, if you are often angry after a game, then quit. There are other games, and there are plenty of other ways for you to use your time. Do things you enjoy, instead of wasting your life on things that don't feel good. Life is short, don't waste another moment on something you don't like.
I get it it's a game its meant to be fun. It is fun, and I love winning but I do not mind losing to people who are better then me, I just mind loosing to stupid reasons like so :P
NeroSykes (EUW)
: I feel ya bro, wasted days by trying to get outta bronze, get stuck by trolls. Get angry on them for fvcking up and you get reported. Just what i said at an other post: Riot is like men, we are like women. (even tho the women are making this men rich this time) We pref a healthy relationship, where we listen to each others problems and solve them together. To make the relationship last long and be strong. We do like to make love, but then there is the men again. The only thing they care about is screwing us! Because they know we crave for League, They do whatever they want and they will get away with it.
That was deep man... but yet so accurate, it's true. Riot doesnt give a fk. They just make chat filters and lay back in their chairs without having to lift a finger.
Varjokani (EUNE)
: I agree with you with that one but still you have no right to judge that they are retards. They can be stupid, careless and try too much to impress others. And yes they can act childish when they fail doing it, but that is not being retard. That is just being a human being who is unsure how to do.
Yes but see the point, it's not just being stupid. Its beyond that. When I make a mistake in league ( and i still do even though i play it for 5 or such years, like since madreds bloodrazor) I am always open to suggestion from people who are better than me. I dont let my childish ego ruin the entire game just because someone gave me advice. THats how I went from bronze V to gold V in the first seasons. Then I started improving further and how? By being open to suggestion. I didnt ever say to a person who tried to help me " Fuck you you cant tell me what to do im the best you suck you 15/1 300 cs mother fucker that took down his entire lane, but you still suck and cant tell me what to do and how to do it now i will troll" . I get it everybody has a bad day every once in a while, including myself. But that is no excuse for such behavior in competitive play.. And when I asked that tahm in the game that I got banned, Why would you ruin this game for 4 other people, its easily winable yet you're still ruining it. And he tells me "Why do you think I care", I mean you joined RANKED PLAY for god sake, how can you NOT CARE??? if so then play bloody normals and troll the living fuck out of things i dont really give it in normal, I've trolled been trolled and everything that could ever happen in normal games, but when it comes to ranked, I think about my self, my elo and the same of my team and always try to make the best of it so we can all win and advance... But nowadays silvers are playing in gold 1 - plat V league but thats a topic for its self and is one of the main reasons why things like this happen. Bronze and Silver are there for a reason and its to keep people like that Tahm in there, yet hes boosted to gold 3, well fml.
Silisa (EUNE)
: Their toxicity doesn't excuse yours. And before you retort that they are getting away with it while you get punished - "trolling" is a lot harder if not impossible to detect (example - someone following you around the map when you play jungle: they are not flaming, they are not verbally abusing or negative, they are not feeding or afk) even though it can ruin a game as much as flaming, intentional feeding and rage quitting can. Yes, it's unfair, but you already knew that. You can either accept it and not go down to their level, because you know that you will never play with that player again anyway, or you can get yourself perma banned while they keep playing.
Yes i see, but thats exactly my point, thats the reason this topic was made in the first place. Im sick of being punished for chat filters when there are retards i constantly report after every such game that run around the map trolling. Folloing ppl ruining xp, afking, farming while team fights are active because they dont give a fk. We need more valid reasons for ppl to get banned other than bloody chat filters... I mean srsly i once got restricted for 50 games, last year, on chat because i was talking with my best friend in the chat all like "%%%%%%%%%%%% come here, yo fuckface get your shit to mid, dude yur retarded for building that" etc etc, but hes my best friend and we talk like that to each other in person and I got restricted for 50 games dude, 50 games because of bloody chat filters.. See what I mean by this? computerized ban filters are not a good way to go. When i see someone toxic i just mute instantly and dont give a fk, but this idiot started trolling halfway through an already won game..
Icy Spectre (EUNE)
: Don't forget not to type anything in chat for like 3 years after being unabanned or you will get permabanned for saying "hi".
after this ends every game is /muteall. And wait for the next free transfer to euw. Had enough kids for 2 years of lol on eune
Varjokani (EUNE)
: Nope, but you could be polite. Saying "Can you please try be more careful and not feed?" is not same as saying You stupid kid #@"¤"!!!!". I m sure you can see the difference yourself.
Man im not a toxic person... I always start out nice untill someone starts being a retard. I told them please hug your t ower and farm and wait for our ganks do not engage if you cant win. That was just after the enemy cait got 5 kills.. then i repeat the same thing nicely, then shes 9/1 still fighting in the middle of the lane. and when I tell them mechanically what are their mistakes NICELY, they start the flame "Oh you cant tell me what to do, now i will troll you will loose this" etc etc, i mean get it? Then what else am I to say to them exept to stop being a retarded kid and not ruin a game for 4 other people... a game that every1 of those ppl hardly need since 2 of them were in promos. I dont retaliate unless im provoked to the point of doing so.... If those trolls and intentional feeders are punished as much as chat retaliation after being provoked, this game would be alot nicer..
Sètsuna (EUW)
: You called them retards #deserved
and i lost a 3rd promo to platinum because of the same reason. Which wasnt bad plays, or the enemy team being better. it was FEED on PURPOSE/ TROLL/ AFK. and im the one punished, like hell i deserved that. Ruining games for ppl is much worse then calling one a name by what he actually is. A RETARD!
: You could just not say anything.. you're not better than them. Retaliation is bad 99% of the time when you could just ignore them and be done with it. Did you not learn that in school? Because I have back in the days. And younger people learn it as well. It's a simple concept and it is very effective. Try it.
yea when ppl told me in school to ignore my problems and others it only made things worse, im retaliation whenever its needed and theese stupid filters that riot made instead of actual reviews of chat logs is complete bullshit and so much unjust bans are happening its quite sad
Silisa (EUNE)
: > why am I always being punished for other peoples shit!!!!!!!!!! What a great attitude for life in general. You got punished for your shit. For being toxic.
and trolling ranked games isnt toxic? please
: you get punished for what you did. End of.
Yea i got punished for calling a trolling feeder a retard for wantimg ne to loose my promo, whos gonna punish him? No one ofc, i feel like recently this game has lost its true point in wining competitive play, now its more of a troll zone. Well on eune anyway, i regret moving here from euw
Silisa (EUNE)
: It's a wonder you got banned, really. Do everyone a huge favor and flame in the first game you play as soon as your 14 day ban ends. We don't need people like you on EUNE, you make us look bad.
sure thing, enjoy the rest of your life in bronze V since yur defending the trolling creeps. I can already tell you are one of them
: You could just not say anything.. you're not better than them. Retaliation is bad 99% of the time when you could just ignore them and be done with it. Did you not learn that in school? Because I have back in the days. And younger people learn it as well. It's a simple concept and it is very effective. Try it.
its like u give them advice, they go "you cant tell me what to do u shit. fuk u im gonna feed i want you to loose your promo" like that tahm kench did in the game i got banned at.. also dropped out of the lobby for the next one resulting in a 2nd loose for the promo I mean srsly...
: Was in my promo's earlier.. Game 1: Ashe said "I'm goin afk, see ya" after the game started for like 30 seconds. Game 2: blitz dc'ed.. all good, can happen.. Came back to his premade and he did.... tudumtss... nothing.. He started running around being salty cuz i called him out on his poor warding and help to his premade.. Really sad how 1 that ashe hasn't been punished and 2 that ranked means nothing to a big part of the community. Ppl hardly invest time in getting to know the game and think they're godlike while they're absolute shit.. But oh boy, don't you dare calling them out cuz they have a report button waiting for you.. As i said 500x already, pampered kids getting more pampered by the pampering company. FeelsBadMan
feels bad yea... i feel it...
Varjokani (EUNE)
: How about next time u don't tell someone to "stop being retards"? ;-) I would be offended if someone called me retard. I can't be only one who feels that way. How about keep your comments short and drop the insults?
Yea you're right, I should just encourage them to continue , keep on feeding and being stupid right?
Silisa (EUNE)
: > why am I always being punished for other peoples shit!!!!!!!!!! What a great attitude for life in general. You got punished for your shit. For being toxic.
yea and its all right to have trolling intentional feeders and afkers in ranked promos right? nothing you've ever experienced i guess because you've never been in a promo
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: No one really knows, but apparently from a 10 CR, it can take up to 3 months but this is speculation. I don't have any source for this information but it's what everyone says. 25 CR is 6 months. 14 day ban is 9 months.
6 months.... you have got to be kidding me
: That's the idea of reforming, it doesn't take a week.
But no one seems to be answering my question. How long will it take?
Nakhishia (EUW)
: The tokens are disable for the moment for everybody. And you will start to get loot when the system thinks that you're reformed.
When and how does the system think Im reformed? considering my experiences the systems are full of flaws, it could take months.
NitroDaxs (EUNE)
: I can't earn loot.
I have the same issue, and its becoming really annoying, sometimes people get chat restrictions for no reason at all (like I did for 25 games) and now I cant enjoy the features this game has to offer atm because someone decided, why the fuck not, lets remove everything fun for ppl who get restricted... I mean ok its fine while the restriction lasts, but theres no reason for it to go on for 5 months after... its been 2 weeks since my chat restriction ended and this is becoming really annoying. And im always a friendly and helpful player in every game, if theres someone toxic in my team i tell them to stfu and mute them so i dont have to hear them. If a "Stfu" is a reason to loose rights to game loot then whoever designed this system has issues.
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: You are seeing so many "boosted" players in platinum bcs we have DYNAMIC Q... where bronze/silver/ gold can Q together for a ranked game. Higher elo players in this case, the gold ones will carry their low silver friends to gold and the cycle repeats until platnum. Making a 4 man premade in ranked can easy carry a silver IV player to high gold, or a low bronze player to low gold... and when they arent playing with their premade and they get matched against average platinum player they will FEED, and they will feed hard... Almost every my ranked match is having 2 man premade, and we are playing against the same duo, or even a trio... I m a plat IV player So that is basicly it, and about the toxic part, nothing to be changed there, those players will get banned eventually, if not by me or you, they will get what they deserve by someone else.... Just keep your mouth closed, or in this case dont touch enter :D and dont send anything in chat, it is pritty uselles to point someones mistake bcs they will answer with agression and denyal, comunity is to sensitive to handle the constructive criticism and takes everything as one big offense....
I get you with the community part... Its just sad that nobody wants to listen and actually improve for once.
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Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Well it seems like you're lacking in knowledge on how to deal with her and some of your picks arent that good against her.
Last season I had no trouble with le blanc what so ever with my mid main Yasuo, but in this season i find it impossible to do anything
Caeltha (EUW)
: How come her skills can't be dodged? You can sidestep 2 of her 3 non-ult abilities, {{item:3140}} removes the Q mark and so on, there's tons of counterplay against {{champion:7}} . Not saying it is easy to pull off, but definitly not impossible. Also, as for her early game, yes she does a lot of damage, true, but she also spends way too much MP, if she harasses you since level 1 that will lead to her pushing the wave. Once you're under turret and she's low on MP it's just a free gank. Distortion at level 1 has 18 seconds cooldown, so you have plenty of time to trade with her freely after she combo's you. Another thing is: you say that you play against {{champion:7}} on the midlane like 80% of your games? Then by now you should know how to lane against her, you should have learnt the matchup already. That's just my opinion though. As a {{champion:7}} main myself, I have no problems whatsoever on laning against her.
Well one of the champions i have a problem against her with is Yasuo for example. He does low damage early game. True I can block 2/3 her abilities, but yet again my wind wall has a 25 sec cd and her abilities are on a much shorter cooldown , So she just zones me out of lane. The chains link is too long before it breaks when moving away from her even spaming my E on minios to move away still cant get far enough most of the times. And once im chained to the ground Im as good as dead followed up by a QW ignite and a thunder proc. like from 100%-0 on pretty much no items. When she gets codex on her 1st-2nd back the laning phase is over. No matter how much mr I buy. PLUS her lvl 6 Q+Q once my windwall is down take60% of my hp with her 40 stock ap and my 42 mr. Followed up by a W is a sure death without counterplay options. I get it you main the champ and you call it easy to counter, but the fact is she is a really unhealthy champion. "dodge her W" easier said then done mate, the radius is too high on it to simply step aside. I tried steping aside, steping forward, moving back and it always lands despite my movement, and im generally pretty good at dodging skillshots.
: On a side note, LeBlonkers attack patterns are telegraphed dashes, which come in a straight line towards you. Use this newly found knowledge to aid you in the battle. Also, you forgot 'is' from the title, as in _LeBlanc **Is** Fucking Broken As Fuck_
There was supposed to be a , instead of the "Is" mr grammar nazi, and yes her patterns are simple. But her W radius is too high and I cant dodge it that easy. Ive tried more times then I have died.
Shadòw (EUW)
: <47% winrate I don't have problems vs her, her burst is so easy to deny
How does one deny it? Only champion I can counter her with is brand because I just outrange the bich and zone her out because she gets greedy and poked in the process. Easy win. Other champions I've tried. I can beat her with Zed np, But zeds a story for its self. Talking about othger champions such as Yasuo for example, As a yasuo main Im struggling too much with the le blancs early game since they always zone me out.... 6/8 games are vs le blancs and every time i try a diferent tactic. And every time i get face slammed, facerolled by something that does 400% of my dmg at the level.
Caeltha (EUW)
: How come her skills can't be dodged? You can sidestep 2 of her 3 non-ult abilities, {{item:3140}} removes the Q mark and so on, there's tons of counterplay against {{champion:7}} . Not saying it is easy to pull off, but definitly not impossible. Also, as for her early game, yes she does a lot of damage, true, but she also spends way too much MP, if she harasses you since level 1 that will lead to her pushing the wave. Once you're under turret and she's low on MP it's just a free gank. Distortion at level 1 has 18 seconds cooldown, so you have plenty of time to trade with her freely after she combo's you. Another thing is: you say that you play against {{champion:7}} on the midlane like 80% of your games? Then by now you should know how to lane against her, you should have learnt the matchup already. That's just my opinion though. As a {{champion:7}} main myself, I have no problems whatsoever on laning against her.
Well one of the champions i have a problem against her with is Yasuo for example. He does low damage early game. True I can block 2/3 her abilities, but yet again my wind wall has a 25 sec cd and her abilities are on a much shorter cooldown , So she just zones me out of lane. The chains link is too long before it breaks when moving away from her even spaming my E on minios to move away still cant get far enough most of the times. And once im chained to the ground Im as good as dead followed up by a QW ignite and a thunder proc. like from 100%-0 on pretty much no items. When she gets codex on her 1st-2nd back the laning phase is over. No matter how much mr I buy.
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: That ain't a bug... that's the coding. Things that go through azir ult get pushed back but if you go into a wall it deposits you out the closest side which results in you going through the wall again. They can't really fix that or you end up inside the wall, and that's even worse. It requires a ton of set up to actually do so in pretty much every game it can't be abused. So as far as exploits go this isn't too unhealthy.
Well the coding is stupid, if you get knocked to the wall just make it take you to the sides back on the road or tyhrough the wall on the other side, if theres no other side when you are at the edge of the map just should throw you on the side instead of directly to the wall, because 2 seconds up in the air is too much while his soldiers are bashing you with a nashors tooth and a death cap..
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Cenke (EUNE)
: Bugged fiddle sticks drain
Yes but swain's dot and roots are abilities that hit you instantly and stay on you as they deal damage, same as ignite. But fiddlestick's drain is a channeled ability such as katarina's ulti. Imagine being hit by kata while under the sanguine pool? not good, no point in the spell then. Same goes for fiddles drain
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