: except that you work for your paycheck ... orange essence is like you complaining about your chrismas bonus ... it is a bonus. you should be grateful you even got a bonus ... it is not a right ... at somepoint there was no orange essence ... there was IP to buy runes and champs and every thing else you buy with RP (real money). riot gifted the community orange essence to buy things which normally can only be bought with RP i.e real money. they can value the gift as they want...
> range essence is like you complaining about your chrismas bonus ... it is a bonus oh 1 more thing - orange essence is not a bonus - its part of the purchase u made - i bought something that contains XXX ingreadients u cant come to my house taking my box of coockies and taking the chocolate chips out of them couse "they are a bonus to the coockies and i should be gratefull to have them but we can take them at any point in time". Thats not how purcahsing stuff works. OMG i hope ur perents dont let u go to the store alone couse if they do...omg...
: except that you work for your paycheck ... orange essence is like you complaining about your chrismas bonus ... it is a bonus. you should be grateful you even got a bonus ... it is not a right ... at somepoint there was no orange essence ... there was IP to buy runes and champs and every thing else you buy with RP (real money). riot gifted the community orange essence to buy things which normally can only be bought with RP i.e real money. they can value the gift as they want...
> they can value the gift as they want... they can value as they want to but they cant change something u already bought - using ur analogy its like u getting ur paycheck spending it and then ur boss says sorry i payed u too much give me back 1/3 of what i gave u.... will u be happy if that happens? No! And u know why? Couse thats illegall ur boss cant do that...but here riot can do whatever whenever and u are defending them ripping ppl off from wjhat they have already spend money on buying smth and then riot saying"sorry we want 1/3 of what we sold u already back"..... yah start using that thing inside ur head its not there just for balance
: Thanks Rito (Snowdown shop)
i still dont have the shop yaaay{{sticker:sg-shisa}} {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Smerk (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=DemonikSoul,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=r5nT1L96,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T21:28:27.832+0000) > > nop > that is quite informative answer > thats like 2 years in lol time couse prevouse patch was biggining of last moutnh 21th of November, "beginning of the month", sure
well its been 3 weeks since then so it feels like 2 years in lol time :D so shut up and stop argueing with me couse u r wrong and i am write and thats that {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
: > [{quoted}](name=DemonikSoul,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=KN7z7jGt,comment-id=000c00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T20:35:49.833+0000) > > 1. Do you have any idea how much of GB trade is with EU countries? Weaning itself is never ever happening - if ur biggest trade markets colapse u colapse with them no matter what. A huge percent, I'd bet ... and what makes you think that this percent will remain stable .?. > 2. GB will have much better time of trying to prevent the said crisis from ever happening rather then thinking if crisis happens we better be out hoping we dont get hit super super hard Yeah, because that is what GB usually does ... trying to keep everyone united ... > 3. Leaving rather then trying to solve problems is the easy way out but is it the right way? In life? In economy? In general? Think about it is it best to run after the first problem/crisis happens or is it better to stay and try to prevent that from happening again? Sometimes it is ... leaving a sinking ship is never a bad idea and certainly not "easy" ...
> A huge percent, I'd bet ... and what makes you think that this percent will remain stable .?. 1. couse the GB economy is concentated to create products marketed towwards eu markets 2. couse exporting for far away countries is alway more expensive and much harder couse of the market preferences and culture 3. couse thinking u can be good while ur neighbours are bad never works - just ask greece > Yeah, because that is what GB usually does ... trying to keep everyone united ... well at least wells scotland and so on yeah :P > Sometimes it is ... leaving a sinking ship is never a bad idea and certainly not "easy" ... how is the third biggest market in the world/not by far btw/ a sinking ship? even if there are problems/and ofc there will be/ the future is with the big players and not of europe countries big enough to be called a big player seperatly but toghether!!! toghether yes!!! Its like trying to say small privete woned shops will over take the big retailers :P thats never ever happening and thinking u can be the only small retailer who can somehow do it is kinda stupid....but u go specail snowflake u do u :P
Smerk (EUW)
: 2 years? Where did you get that from, they started making those skins three months ago and they were initially released during previous patch
> they started making those skins three months ago nop > initially released during previous patch thats like 2 years in lol time couse prevouse patch was biggining of last moutnh
Smerk (EUW)
: Less than a day, I wouldn't call that a lot of time
from when the skins were releast like 2 years ago to when they were available in the store ? How is that not a long time?
: > [{quoted}](name=DemonikSoul,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=KN7z7jGt,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T14:54:15.394+0000) > > yes they can For the time being ... > so u think if eu colapses that wont effect great britain /wich btw has a great chance of not beeing so great and beeing just britain/??? Interesting... It will affect them, but it the same thing as slowly trying to cut out from your addiction/dependence by slowly reducing the rate/dosage. Who do you think has a better chance coping with trying to quit smoking .?. A person that willingly goes into it and smokes one cigarette per day less **or** a person that is being forced to quit immediately without ever having another smoke in his life .?. Economies work the same way ... if the UK can slowly wean itself out of the EU, then if/when the collapse comes, they will be the only ones who will have a chance to stand on their feet.
> if the UK can slowly wean itself out of the EU 1. Do you have any idea how much of GB trade is with EU countries? Weaning itself is never ever happening - if ur biggest trade markets colapse u colapse with them no matter what. 2. GB will have much better time of trying to prevent the said crisis from ever happening rather then thinking if crisis happens we better be out hoping we dont get hit super super hard 3. Leaving rather then trying to solve problems is the easy way out but is it the right way? In life? In economy? In general? Think about it is it best to run after the first problem/crisis happens or is it better to stay and try to prevent that from happening again?
Wen294 (EUW)
: Probs will take a while. Like how skins they say they will release on patch are often delayed a bit. I'd say they should be up at least by the weekend.
they are up now but still... took them alot of time
: Britain leaving the EU
i think the ppl in britain voted and they will get what they wanted...
: > [{quoted}](name=Grffon,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=KN7z7jGt,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-12-06T09:10:26.964+0000) > > UK and some other stiupid countries can think that EU is over and its time to leave. And they can do it, but EU will remain thats for sure, unless WWIII will hit. As I said, it is a gamble, but "EU will remain and that's for sure" .?. Why is it "for sure" .?. You do not need something as radical as a WW3 for a dysfunctional organization to tumble ... heck, even another (small or not ) economic crisis or even a bitcoin collapse could send some of EU's most fragile economies tumbling down. If EU eventually makes true of its threats and it creates a "two speed Europe" (high speed Northern countries, low speed the South- southeastern ones) or even ejects one of its members ( Greeeeeeece :p ) from the eurozone, then the whole thing will shake like a willow in a storm. > Where is no country in europe which could compete with such huge markets as China or USA. EU cannot do it, either. > Euro sceptics is thinking that everything will stay at it is now and they wont need to pay for it. They will need to pay much more than now and in return they will get less. Well, they are obviously wrong and there will be negative consequences, but if they manage to rise above them and float (which is the most possible outcome ) then they will be in a much better position compared to other countries who will be tied directly to the EU charriot. If the UK manages to stabilize and the EU does collapse afterwards, then they will be the powerhouse of the continent. High risks, high payouts ...
> EU cannot do it, either. yes they can > If the UK manages to stabilize and the EU does collapse afterwards, then they will be the powerhouse of the continent. so u think if eu colapses that wont effect great britain /wich btw has a great chance of not beeing so great and beeing just britain/??? Interesting... > High risks, high payouts ... even in a world where this does happen u think GB will benefit? U think that will happen? Or maybe something complelty diffrent happens???
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > did u read the announcemnt it looks like they are talking about blue essence and they dont explain what the orange essence change will be at all. The messages I read announced that shards and essence were changing, without specifying a specific one. That implies that the change is valid for both.
adn they explain alot about what that change is gonna be about in the blue essnece department and say 0 about the orange essence change. That effected alot of ppl who actaully spend money on skin shards and got blindsided by riot
Wen294 (EUW)
: Read patch notes, should be in there somewhere if i remember correctly.
mhm patch notes say lancer and paragon blitz are back in the store but they arent
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Just that they **did** explain it, many weeks before the change happened. Not reading it doesn't mean they didn't inform us.
did u read the announcemnt it looks like they are talking about blue essence and they dont explain what the orange essence change will be at all. Not to mention the fact that the message in other languages actaully doesnt mention orrange essence at all. Pls check ur facts before talking
Rioter Comments
: https://imgur.com/a/ovK90 did i win?
: You're insulting her by comparing her to poop. I don't care if it's a cuter name or whatever you're going to pull out of your ass. You disrespected Poppy.
pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :){{sticker:galio-happy}}
: the game is free to play ... if you want to buy skins or chests ... you may it is your choice ... you are by no means obliged or forced ... but on the other hand you can get skins and champs for free with free chests and free keys ... so yeah ... I don't know why ppl are complaining it is like a homeless man not settling for a bad to sleep on he wants a 5 star hotel ... it just ungratefulml and straight up %%%%ed up
u r very wrong and ur example is very wrong. They changed the prices and the orrange essnece costs without explaining before hand. Its like u getting ur paycheck but several days later your employer/mom/dad/government comming and taking some of the cash out of it saying "ummm we decided we gonna do that deal with it". Here u go i fixed ur example
: no I didn't?
u say potatoes i say potatos whats the diffrence ;)
: https://preview.ibb.co/ckCL06/jhteddaf.png Poppy is all that matters to me (I do own skins from different champions, too)
Rioter Comments
: Ultimate skins are practically worthless???
read off topic articles- most of them are exaclty about orange essence and how riot got super greedy out of nowhere
DemonikSoul (EUNE)
: skin shards,orange essence and chests
as usual no rioter will ever comment on something actually omportant on the eu boards.........maybe we should talk more about food here couse it looks like thats what is actually concerning most rioters on these forums
: I am havin enough trouble getting BE to buy champions ... not gonna discuss this orange essence shit ... but keep in mind ... it is free to get orange essence and skin shards ... and ward skin shards ... so pls stop complaining about something you are lucky to even have it anyways. I mean Riot gives you a gift and you complain about it ? if you don't like it don't take it
chests cost rp in the store - they are selling them so no its OE is not free
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: Another box another emoticon. 3 box 3 emoticon, nothing else
:/{{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: And they've been silent since then.
they wanna take as long as possible to respond in any way couse thats money for them
DemonikSoul (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T14:52:24.549+0000) > > Well here's one: > As far as I know, Riot will want to do things where you get MORE skin shards. Which means it should balance out. > While giving you more DIFFERENT skin shards, so bigger chance of getting expensive ones or ones you REALLY want. > > If all that stuff follows through, you've actually got a better deal in the end ;) what end? IF that fallows through? how will we get more skin shards? like almost everything you say is somewhere in your imagination not actually confirmed from riot in any way shape or form so as far as we know they are just lowering the value of skinshards and hextech chests for no reason
> [{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=00030000000000000000000100000001000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-16T10:24:36.938+0000) > > https://i.imgur.com/vJxv8Dr.png[/img] > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012640908 > > Can I just start calling you a bunch of unreading twtsickles yet, without actually having to state why? > It is actually in YOUR mind, that you're always right, despite having done nothing to look anything up. > I'm not the one with the problem, cause i'm not ASSUMING (that i'm right), I FACT CHECK( to make sure I am). and did u read that thing carefully? couse in there it says "we will increase the amount of skins u get from boxes to compensate AND add a bad luck protection"- when u read that what do u think to yourself????? Couse that thing is suoper unclear and nowhere does it say how much less will u get from dissenchanting skin shards AND its almost entirelly focused on BE with examples and blocks of text and right at the end they give u some sugar coated statement about OE that super unclear how will work and what you should expect actually its exactly the opposite it makes you think there wont be big changes to OE and nextech chests when in reality the change there was super super big
DemonikSoul (EUNE)
: skin shards,orange essence and chests
wondering how long rioters can keep quite and not comment or give any feedback to players couse this is a big issue adrassed in every reagen boards....
DemonikSoul (EUNE)
: skin shards,orange essence and chests
btw judging from riot support responses it looks like they are willing to try and see how many ppl they can scam before every1 realizes how bad of a deal chests are now
Potchikir (EUW)
: dont buy any chest again until riot fixes it thats when riot will notice
wondering how long will that take honestly- looks like they are in no hurry to do anything about it and will gladly postpone as long as they can in hopes of scamming more and more ppl before they realize what has happened
: I was thinking about writing a post too... During Worlds event I bought like 3 of those Worlds orb bundles for a total of 7500 RP (because they only dropped skin shards). Not to mention getting shit skins most of the time, now they'll be worth absolutely nothing. One legendary skin takes 10 520RP skins to activate... Imagine getting an ultimate skin from a chest and it takes months for you to activate it without paying anything. It's just absolutely stupid how the disenchant cost went down, but the activation cost didn't. It would make at least some sense if they decreased the price of the bundle or gave us more stuff for the same price, but right now we're getting scammed like hell :D
if u mean the price of the 10 chest bundle i totally agree with you. And now disenchanting skinshards is almost worthless almost always your best choice would be to just reroll 3 shards and hope for the best....
: > [{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T14:52:24.549+0000) > > **If** all that stuff follows through, you've actually got a better deal in the end ;) and **IF** I win the lottery, I might not need to work anymore ... oh boy, oh boy, ain't that prospect exciting ... :p only fools think that exchanging a stable system for a lottary is going to give them "more" and what they "REALLY want". now there is something one can laugh about ... :D
> [{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=00030000000000000000000100000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T15:05:48.307+0000) > > The Irony of that remark, where the whole point of the argument is that the people BOUGHT INTO THAT LOTTERY (instead of getting their free tickets), because they thought that is what they REALLY WANTED over just buying that one skin from the store xD let me tell you that i for once have consistently been getting stuff i want from that lottery so excuse me for having fun over here and not beeing a sad person who thinks everyone is up to scam them and that somehow getting a random great skinshard is bad!!!
: Well here's one: As far as I know, Riot will want to do things where you get MORE skin shards. Which means it should balance out. While giving you more DIFFERENT skin shards, so bigger chance of getting expensive ones or ones you REALLY want. If all that stuff follows through, you've actually got a better deal in the end ;)
> [{quoted}](name=Basura Nephilim,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T14:52:24.549+0000) > > Well here's one: > As far as I know, Riot will want to do things where you get MORE skin shards. Which means it should balance out. > While giving you more DIFFERENT skin shards, so bigger chance of getting expensive ones or ones you REALLY want. > > If all that stuff follows through, you've actually got a better deal in the end ;) what end? IF that fallows through? how will we get more skin shards? like almost everything you say is somewhere in your imagination not actually confirmed from riot in any way shape or form so as far as we know they are just lowering the value of skinshards and hextech chests for no reason
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: There shall be badluck prot ob emoticons aswell. I opened 2boxes, 2 emoticons. Got a cheat from a homor capaule, emoticon. I am %%%%ing tired of 0 value.
kinda hard to understand u but ok :D
Maroul (EUNE)
: Yea i made post about this , no1 did understand point ....
quess not many people buy chests and bundles
Maroul (EUNE)
: But there is like 138 champs , and waaaaay more skins , also icons and ward skins , and not sure if they ever said anything about math on this one , but u should get at least 50-50 , so if opening 3 champion shard in a row guaranteed you 1 skin shard thats almost same as before , by my experience so far in general its around 50-50 when u open chests. No matter about this part since u get less essence both blue and orange when u disenchant , price of chest and key should go down even with bad luck protection. If price stay like this its not worth anymore to spend RP on those bundles since u can make less champions/skins for same price
exaclty and its waaaaaaay less skins you can upgrade from shards for the same price of chests and bundles
: I still have to meet a person that actually BUYS chests. And when I do, i'll laugh at them. If you prefer to get something you want for a set amount of cash, or want to take a gamble with your money, you deserve everything bad that comes from it. In my mind the fact that you can BUY chests is so ludacrous that the connection doesn't even form. That's how poor a proposition it is to actually buy them.
ummm thats very rude and as a chest buyer i feel offended thank you....on a side note i do like the serpise factor of getting a great skin without expecting it and if u think thats punishable well you are the ludacrouse one so good day to you sir and i hope you dont offend anyone anymore kind regards
: > [{quoted}](name=Fungongus,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=rBQ79uoh,comment-id=0003000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-14T21:24:33.018+0000) > > Not when you stated just blue shards previously in the other documents. Are you paid by riot to defend them? There will come the day to be your turn to be tricked by them, don't worry. I'll be SO upset, once riot tricks me about FREE STUFF THEY ARE GIVING ME, WHILE PUTTING UP NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT CHANGES. Oh and here's another unpopular opinion for you: Learn an extra language, that's spoken by large parts of the civilized western communities. Then you wouldn't risk localization errors. The need for localisation has always struck me as snowflake and entitled behavior, not unlike complaining about free stuff.
> I'll be SO upset, once riot tricks me about FREE STUFF THEY ARE GIVING ME, WHILE PUTTING UP NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT CHANGES. free stuff? chests cost rp how is that free stuff? hello? check shop prices - unchanged!!! hello!!!
Zetic (EUNE)
: Mastery Champion reset item from 5+ to 0
not something i will bother with... honeslty who cares about that thing
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Because you will also get more skin shards now.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=kqqimOfs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-13T22:35:52.186+0000) > > Because you will also get more skin shards now. who told you that ? here is an official response i got for player support Hello Summoner, Midnit3 here, happy to assist you! The amount of the orange essence and blue essence has been reduced due to the fact that now you can get way more shards that you used to get prior. It is true however that you will mainly get champion shards from leveling up, however when you hit special milestone levels, you'll earn special rewards like gemstones or rare emotes. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, don't hesitate to reach out to us again. Kind regards, C9 Midnit3 Player Support Specialist "Peace requires a steady hand." so sorry but no you will not be getting skin shards EVER
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Because you will also get more skin shards now.
who told you that? Here is an official riot response however when you hit special milestone levels, you'll earn special rewards like gemstones or rare emotes. so sorry to tell you u r not gonna get skin shards AT ALL EVER
: Ty. That may be usefull some day. Am i really fat if i am 174 centimeters tall, have 64 killograms, and am 17 years old? :(
i see u r not paying attention in biology class :D for your age the hight - 110 is considered skiiny/normal in your case that will be 174-110=64 kg . So you are pretty far from fat actaully you fit the category perfectly. Study more and pay less attention to your brother giberish. P.S. All brothers are annoing he is just triggering you thats all trust me u will bouth grow outh of it eventually/maybe when u r 40+ :D /
Altiverse (EUNE)
: A Rioter over the NA boards said that now you can't open over 3 chests in a row without getting a skin shard. Can you confirm otherwise? that' be interesting
i have been trying to get a non robot response from riot support but its pretty hard so far they keep trying to redirect the question towards blue essence and champ shards. But honestly from my exp from 10 chests on avarage u get 3 champ shards....so what that rioter said is just how the system already worked in most cases...
: I was just going to write a new topic that is kinda similar to this one. I do agree with you, but also they should remake the Hextech chests. So they drop ONLY skin shards. Because i'm lvl 36 and got 2-3 champ shards from 5 chests already. Just opened 3 hextech ones .... and fking got 3 more champ shards ...
not sure how i feel about that...woudnt mind the idea but a simple price reduction could be just fine too
Hansiman (EUNE)
: It was announced several times in several locations. They even made a notification in the client. If you don't read anything, you can't blame Riot. We knew about this change months before it happened.
it was announced if u remember clearly that becouse we will get alot more shards they will refuce the amount of essence u get from disencahnting them... are u getting alot more skin shards? couse i sure as hell am not... or they just thought - ok we reduce blue essence for disenchanting mayne noone will notice if we reduce orange too
Fungongus (EUW)
: So that's how Riot stole our orange essence
what they said was becouse you will get alot more champion and skin shards they will reduce the amount of essence they give you when disenchanted. My question is how exactly are we getting alot more skin shards when we clearly are not? I hate getting lied! And thats exactly what rito did!!!!
Rioter Comments
hazza10 (EUW)
: Giveaway of Championship Ashe!
ign:demoniksoul gl to every1
AnthoN7 (EUNE)
: i have the language english and it was still in polish
Refôrmed (EUW)
: Because you're on EUNE and chose the polish language? Try to change it in client-options perhaps? xD
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