Deprecious (EUNE)
: If the user above had a 14 day ban prior to this, he would of been permanently banned on this one, so there you go, but whatever, i see this is going nowhere, not worth wasting time around here, gl hf
Oh boy, i knew you were special, but you really went beyond that..
Deprecious (EUNE)
: @Negative Attitude Are you %%%%ing serious ? so you are not allowed to defend yourself because it has a negative impact on the aggressors ? what ? WHAT ? WWHAATT? @Report Calling > He was being harassed, and he told his team mates that he will report them for that because it's against the rules, which is true, now why is stating the obvious considered breaking the rules ? what %%%%ing logic is that ? > If someone on the street is harassing you, and you tell him that if they doesn't stop you will call the cops, should you be %%%%ing fined for that ? Now lets go back to the statement i made above about people getting punished for defending themselves even if done in a civilized manner, in the situation presented above, the way the user defended himself, wasn't it done in a civilized manner ?
I could debunk all the bullshit you wrote here using the logs from that thread, but the thread got deleted, anyway, enjoy your delusion, i'm tired of wasting my time arguing here, gl hf
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QZAEOKVR,comment-id=000e0000000000000000000000000000000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-26T22:01:12.956+0000) > > I never heard before in a civilized society of people being punished for being negative > > Now, regarding the remark that you made, in which you state that you are not allowed to use in game chat for things not useful for the game, i'd like to mention, that neither the following (good game, well played, hello, good luck, etc ) are not useful for the game itself, and also, criticism, which is considered negative, can be useful for the game > > Regarding your shiting in your sink analogy, i'd like to inform you that personally, i never heard anywhere in a civilized society, anyone going to prison for life for shiting in a sink It's not about negativity, it's about the place to do it. And maybe you missed the part "at least nice to the other player", which include "good game", "well played" and other nice things. And again, it's about civilization, not prison. I'm still waiting for your "nice and civilized" player permabanned for negativity.
If the user above had a 14 day ban prior to this, he would of been permanently banned on this one, so there you go, but whatever, i see this is going nowhere, not worth wasting time around here, gl hf
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-26T21:53:46.112+0000) > > What if i told you that i wanna use it preventively, because it would be pointless to use it after the damage is done.. > > Now i have a question, If you are fornicating, do you start using condoms before or after getting an STD ? Then I'd say go play a game without any other human players. For both statements.
What are you talking about ? Since when you can't play this game with other humans players without using the chat ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QZAEOKVR,comment-id=000e00000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2019-05-25T18:27:19.930+0000) > > I'd like to remind to you that you can get punished only for being negative, i repeat, being negative, not flaming.. Yup. Luckily, in a civilized society, there are things not to be done is some places. The same way you don't shit in your sink, you don't use the chat in game for things not useful for the game or at least nice to the other players.
I never heard before in a civilized society of people being punished for being negative Now, regarding the remark that you made, in which you state that you are not allowed to use in game chat for things not useful for the game, i'd like to mention, that neither the following (good game, well played, hello, good luck, etc ) are not useful for the game itself, and also, criticism, which is considered negative, can be useful for the game Regarding your shiting in your sink analogy, i'd like to inform you that personally, i never heard anywhere in a civilized society, anyone going to prison for life for shiting in a sink
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T13:19:57.816+0000) > > If i mute you right now, wouldn't it be the same as if we both muted each other ? It would be. But you have a reason, you might consider I used "the chat" in an abusive way. Which is less stupid than muting people who haven't said a word before.
What if i told you that i wanna use it preventively, because it would be pointless to use it after the damage is done.. Now i have a question, If you are fornicating, do you start using condoms before or after getting an STD ?
Zanador (EUNE)
: Try again. It's for negative attitude+report calling+afk. How do we know it's afk? 0 neutral monster kill, 7 CS in a 22 min game. 400 damage to champions, 3.7k total damage dealt. I get his situation. Blind pick is quite horrible and i've spent years dealing with the kind of teammates he got there. But as i said, he got a chat restriction for report calling+afk as well, and everything considered, that punishment is quite light and seems appropriate.
@Negative Attitude Are you %%%%ing serious ? so you are not allowed to defend yourself because it has a negative impact on the aggressors ? what ? WHAT ? WWHAATT? @Report Calling > He was being harassed, and he told his team mates that he will report them for that because it's against the rules, which is true, now why is stating the obvious considered breaking the rules ? what %%%%ing logic is that ? > If someone on the street is harassing you, and you tell him that if they doesn't stop you will call the cops, should you be %%%%ing fined for that ? Now lets go back to the statement i made above about people getting punished for defending themselves even if done in a civilized manner, in the situation presented above, the way the user defended himself, wasn't it done in a civilized manner ?
: He was report calling and had a negative impact on the team. A chat restriction is the smallest punishment possible and I think that's justified in this case.
He was being harassed, and he told his team mates that he will report them for that because it's against the rules, which is true, now why is stating the obvious considered breaking the rules ? what %%%%ing logic is that ? If someone on the street is harassing you, and you tell him that if they doesn't stop you will call the cops, should you be %%%%ing fined for that ?
Shozis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4E0uE7bM,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T21:55:22.178+0000) > > I just don't get the reason behind punishing people for not using the chat at all, like i don't find the reason behind permanently banning players for being negative > > Forcing people to behave only in a certain way seems a little bit too much for me.. Well, you have to show that you have changed. I guess simply not using chat would be to easy and it doesn't indicate if you have actualy reformed.
So, lets say i used to flame in chat, now i don't flame in chat anymore, but if i don't use the chat it means i'm still flaming in chat? what? What %%%%ing logic is that ? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Shozis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4E0uE7bM,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T13:08:11.896+0000) > > So, you are telling me that i am forced to communicate only positively using the chat, and i am also forced to communicate using the chat ? wow, and i thought north korea was opressive I don't get your point. You are not forced to do anything. Either don't use chat at all or use it in a positive/neutral manner like it was supposed to be used = problem solved.
> a) Not typing anything for months - punishments don't get reduced I just don't get the reason behind punishing people for not using the chat at all, like i don't find the reason behind permanently banning players for being negative Forcing people to behave only in a certain way seems a little bit too much for me..
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QZAEOKVR,comment-id=000e000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-24T11:03:10.399+0000) > > The problem is not getting banned for telling people to kill themselves, the problem is getting banned for defending yourself in a polite and civilized matter with arguments when you are getting flamed. 1) Show me someone who got banned while being "polite and civilized". 2) You have nothing to "defend".
I'd like to remind to you that you can get punished only for being negative, i repeat, being negative, not flaming..
: Wow excellent example!! But yes, you do have the right to defend yourself, in a civil and mature manner. There is however this right, which is one of the most important rights we have, it is the right to remain silent. I suggest you use the latter.
At the moment, you can get banned only for being negative in your games, i repeat, being negative, not flaming. Now, please explain to me how this guy deserved a chat restrict for that chat log, i'll wait https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/6rEidrMZ-unfair-chat-restriction
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T13:15:19.657+0000) > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} > > Please, read again, and tell me how is it possible to have a dialogue with a person that muted you ? You can't and that's my point. But you are still able to write in the chat and get banned as you deserve.
You stated above that an option to turn off player chat shouldn't happen because it would kill in game communication, but being able to mute a player doesn't, so right now you disagree with your previous statement but at the same time you are telling me that you were right before.. Also, why the %%%% would i want to have a discussion with someone i just muted ? that's like using a condom because you want to have children
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T13:15:19.657+0000) > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} > > Please, read again {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} Please, read again
If i mute you right now, wouldn't it be the same as if we both muted each other ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-25T13:04:13.392+0000) > > I don't know friend, but last time i checked, communication required at least 2 persons > For example, if we have a discussion, and either one of us or both of us cut the internet cable, it would be the same That's exactly what I say. So what is your point here?
{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} Please, read again, and tell me how is it possible to have a dialogue with a person that muted you ?
Shozis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4E0uE7bM,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-24T03:30:26.473+0000) > > Yeah, sure riot will pay people to stay and check your chat logs to see if you got more positive, good joke I'm pretty sure bot can easily check that. a) Not typing anything for months - punishments don't get reduced b) Type negative - get punished c) Use chat for several months without typing anything punishable - punishment level reduced. P.S. A little clarification: the bot doesn't have to know what 'positive/neutral' chat looks like, however it already knows what 'negative' chat looks like and punishes for it. So basically the only conditions that need to be met are: a) player is actively using chat - it would surely be easy for a bot to detect. b) player doesn't type negative things - bot already knows what 'negative' behavior is so the lack of this negative behavior would mean that the player is using chat in a positive/neutral manner.
So, you are telling me that i am forced to communicate only positively using the chat, and i am also forced to communicate using the chat ? wow, and i thought north korea was opressive
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-24T11:01:59.252+0000) > > We currently have the option to mute everyone from the in game chat by writing /mute all at the beginning of the game, so what we are asking here is actually a QOL feature, so you stating the above, is a clear sign of ignorance, bias and hypocrisy No. Muting is not forbidding you from writing, so it's not "just a QOL feature". Explain better exactly where you can say I'm "ignorant, biased and hypcrotic" because there is nothing there that can lead to such conclusion. Where you clearly show signs of ignorance (just QOL feature while it's not), bias (using argument viable in both ways) and hypocrisy (not wanting to interact with people in a game where interacting with people is the core of the game).
I don't know friend, but last time i checked, communication required at least 2 persons For example, if we have a discussion, and either one of us or both of us cut the internet cable, it would be the same
: Give me one example lol, I'll wait.
I'm sorry friend, but if anyone is accusing me of something, i have the right to defend myself, anywhere in the world, except for north korea and league of legends
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QZAEOKVR,comment-id=000e000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-24T11:03:10.399+0000) > > The problem is not getting banned for telling people to kill themselves, the problem is getting banned for defending yourself in a polite and civilized matter with arguments when you are getting flamed. 1) Show me someone who got banned while being "polite and civilized". 2) You have nothing to "defend".
Read around the player behavior section, you will find many cases, they also got permanently banned Btw just a reminder, i have the right to defend myself and my opinion for that matter, anywhere in the world, except for north korea, and league of legends
: If your game crashes it's on your end. And getting banned for telling people to kill themselves isn't just negative it's immature and stupid.
The problem is not getting banned for telling people to kill themselves, the problem is getting banned for defending yourself in a polite and civilized matter with arguments when you are getting flamed.
: > [{quoted}](name=Deprecious,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ExsLb42r,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-24T02:52:09.883+0000) > > What if i don't want to interact with other people by using the chat ? why do i have a mute option in game, but not in client settings ? Then don't play LoL. Mute should only be used against people abusing chat. Using it against people who haven't used the chat yet is plain stupid.
We currently have the option to mute everyone from the in game chat by writing /mute all at the beginning of the game, so what we are asking here is actually a QOL feature, so you stating the above, is a clear sign of ignorance, bias and hypocrisy
Shozis (EUNE)
: Yes, punishment levels drop, however, only Riot knows how long it takes - some people say 3 months. But one important thing - for punishment levels to drop it is not enough to not write anything in chat. You actually have to show positive attitude in chat.
Yeah, sure riot will pay people to stay and check your chat logs to see if you got more positive, good joke
Morogoth (EUW)
: Questions about the punishment system and reform system
There are people who got permanently banned after 1 year with no punishment since their 2 week ban.. there is no such thing as a reform system There are only strikes, you have 5 strikes, and you are gone 1. 10 day chat restrict 2. 15 3. 25 4. 14 day ban 5. Permanently ban
: this crappy punishment system
I second this, this shit has to go, but you will only get down voted, because that's what happens with anything that makes any sense around here
: But they won't because the goal of a business is to make as much profit as possible. And sometimes people forget that this is a free game and the company has to pay their employees, domains, rent, servers and whatever else there is to pay.
You also forget, no body will pay for skins, in a game that you can't play because it crashes, or a game where you get banned for being "negative"
: To all summoners
They should reform this %%%%ing %%%%%%ed system they have, i got 25 game chat restrict two weeks ago, since then i use work around to keep my chat completely hidden, because i have been looking around this section, and i saw people getting permanently banned for too many %%%%%%ed reasons The way things look like now, no one will use the chat in league of legends in season 10
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >So, do I deserve a permaban for these three games? did you get the 10 and 25 game chat restricion and the 14 day ban before? if yes then ofc >As I have since found out they don't come up for every punishment, why? ppl cried that it was spammy, so riot changed it and it comes up way less now >Probably can't understand the frustration of being permabanned for shit knowing the people who were just as bad get to keep playing on their nice level 30 acc :) i cant understand how can ppl get so toxic over a VIDEO GAME that they get permabanned... >and whenever I come onto this board to talk about this bullshit you get the "white knights," who tell you that its all about peace and love when someone is telling you to die of cancer and is actually in your lane trying to tilt you with the cs taking and feeding noone in their right mind say things like that out of the blue, if they do mute them and report after the game, anything other than that will get you punished too
Hahaha, you don't need to be toxic anymore to get perma banned, all you need is to be negative, that means you asking to surrender, can result in a perma ban
: If you can't interact with other people, go play a solo game. There are plenty that are very good.
What if i don't want to interact with other people by using the chat ? why do i have a mute option in game, but not in client settings ?
Cypherous (EUW)
: How about, instead of getting riot to fix your own personal problem of lacking self control, you just you know, fix your lack of self control?
Some people are a lot more predisposed to get mad or upset than others, and it's not about lacking self control, it's about something called neurotransmitters Also, some people just don't wanna use the chat in game no more, because they get flamed, and when they defend themselves, even if they don't flame, they are considered "NEGATIVE" and banned
: Pings are important. League lets us hit the "mute all" command. Why not let it be a game option.
Because they want people to be toxic, because they want people to get banned, if they really wanted to fix the problem with toxicity, it would of been done already There is a workaround to permanently disable the chat, but you won't see it at all, i use it for 2 weeks now, and i'm planning to never use the chat again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUm5SF9b5P0
: No, you can't. Control yourself, Riot won't do it for you. The chat is here for people to talk and be read as long as they're correct. The possibility that you would auto mute thousands of players that did nothing to you just because you can't behave is out of the question.
WHAT CONTROL YOURSELF ? I JUST DON'T WANT THE %%%%ING CHAT, IT'S EASY, IT DOESN'T HELP ME AT ALL, IN FACT IT DOES EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE, IT JUST GETS ME MORE %%%%ING MAD AND ALSO GETS ME BANNED
DeaddLyy (EUNE)
: Perma ban for nothing? Do you think this is fair?
So you get banned only for using the chat now ? that's great, what's next ? getting banned because my mid laner finds my chroma offensive ?
: Permabanned after 1 year of positivity
This should result in a chat ban, but guess what, riot needs more money Just so you learn, stop buying skins
SaKRaaN (EUNE)
: GTX 960 2GB
You expect them to optimize their shit when they won't even fix their shit ? this ain't dota man, we don't do that here
Forte (EUNE)
: I didn't state that the 90% feels the same way as I do, I said that they don't feel the same as you. Bout 10% are hardcore about it and the rest are just neutral. Which is one more reason for rito not to change anything.
If they don't say anything about it around here, it doesn't mean they don't care, i doubt anyone enjoy grinding an entire year for honor lvl 5, just to be rewarded around 6.000 BE and two ward skins.. it's exactly like i described above, a slap in the face
Jcmana (EUW)
: Opt-in for longer queue with more narrow skill-level matchmaking
Im crying about this for weeks, i can't have a good draft, today my team was like this, plat 4, plat 4, silver 2, bronze 1, gold 4.. enemy team silver 1, silver 2, silver 4, silver 4, bronze 1.. I think i died 5 times in that game as a support, 3 times by running it down mid and flashing in their fountain, i had more fun playing against bots
Forte (EUNE)
: To you, not to me nor about 90% of the population of league. Also your example is irrelevant. There's nothing negative about the rewards whilst there is something quite negative about slapping a filthy dollar on one's face. Why do you make this personal? Did I offend you in any way? No, so leave my big forehead out of the discussion. My point stands. Don't complain about free stuff, if you don't like it then don't use it.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend, it was just an example of how some of us feel about the reward system in league of legends, btw i doubt 90% of the population of league feel the way that you do
Forte (EUNE)
: So you'd rather have no rewards at all, tell me what exactly do you not like about free stuff? A guy come to you and gives you 5$ and you're like No no no no not 5$ I'd rather have nothing than 5$ useless dollars.
If i came to you on the street, took out a 1$ bill out of my pocket, spat on it, and slapped it on your big forehead like i slapped a slot machine, that would be great yeah ? free stuff no ? that is how rewards in this game feel like
Forte (EUNE)
: So 3 key fragments in a week and 0 key fragments in a week is the same. 3 = 0 okay.
Yeah, key fragments, such a great reward, they should of just removed them from the game a long time ago
Forte (EUNE)
: Umm, I'm a bit confused, you'd rather have no reward at all? You're not doing anything outside of what you're supposed to do which is to play the game the in the best way that you. And there are rewards for playing well. Missions are another thing, it is optional and if you go out of your way to do a mission and feel like the reward that you got is too little for such a hard mission then yes you can complain. (that is if the mission doesn't state your reward from the beginning) But you're argument now is about a system in which you basically just play and every now and then a gift pops up out of no where, and you're saying that you'd rather not have this gift at all? I don't know if you remember but back in the days there weren't such things as rewards from honors. So, your argument is invalid.
"Umm, I'm a bit confused, you'd rather have no reward at all?" The rewards are so crap, that with them or without them it would be the same
: Give us one free dodge per day/week
Make it like this, 3 LP per dodge every 4 hours.. Btw, if janna trolled or not, it didn't matter, you had ezreal adc, you had to dodge anyway
CJXander (EUNE)
: I cannot relate to that feeling since i wasn't banned, ever. But i can tell you how happy i am when people get permanently banned for misconductive behaviour.
I think you need a friend buddy..
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=the paleface,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=KUb3NWMi,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-09T20:31:03.619+0000) > > so you wanted to share with community that you got a person banned? And want praise for it? > Ok. GJ man, you did well. Congratulations on banning a person and posting it on da interwebs as a revenge. True hero. It's rather a warning message, that i will not allow such abusive individuals to roam freely into this game. I will always hunt them down.
Congrats, you just earned your cardboard sword and a tinfoil hat, one level left
Chrysies (EUW)
: Give us that option already
Yes, Yes, Yes about the chat, emotes i don't care, but when it comes to pings, i don't think players should be able to mute them, they are too vital for the game, i would probably dodge if one of my team mates had them disabled, last thing i need in my rankeds is a blind autist farming while i gank him
Hansiman (EUW)
: And you still don't see it comes down to a personal opinion? Support role is a bit more popular now with the changes its gone through, so I wouldn't state that the changes are necessarily bad. You may not personally agree with the changes, but that doesn't mean everyone else agrees with you. I find support to be a much more interesting role due to the changes, and you can't claim that my opinion on the matter is wrong just because you don't like it.
Support role is a bit more popular now, and that is since the jungle changes.. makes me wonder..
: >Yeah, such a buff, if i get relic, and i lose my lane i get my wards at minute 20, in a game where the support and the adc have the least mobility and get one shot by any other role even when on par with them. Relic shield's quest completion is not related to winning or losing a lane. You can get it just as fast regardless of how your lane goes (unless you are inting). And supports aren't generally weak enough to get oneshot by anyone. Not to mention they have tools to prevent that from happening in their kits. >No, why should i ? why should mid lane and top lane always have the highest ground in the game ? THIS is balance and there are a few reasons for it. 1) The jungler has the most influence over the entire map so letting him have the highest level is not balanced. It's simply not fair to get ganked by a level 6 jungler when you are still level 5 as a solo laner or level 4 as a bot laner. It's simply not balanced. 2) The jungler shouldn't be able to 1v1 a solo laner (in a normal scenario, so not fed). Their lane opponents exist for that reason and the junglers are supposed to help them defeat the enemy, not solo them without the laner's help. 3) The jungle role has the least amount of risks (lack of opponent who would constantly punish you for the slightest mistakes) and they shouldn't be rewarded on the same level as solo laners for never showing their faces. >Then why you don't play them ? maybe because it sucks ? That's simply bad reasoning. Why do those roles have players in the first place then? I'll tell you... It's because those people like to play those roles. Same with me. I have always played mid the most and i will continue to do so because i enjoy the champions and the play styles of that role the most.
"Relic shield's quest completion is not related to winning or losing a lane." - How am i supposed to complete it when i'm forced to stay behind the turret ? or when i am dead ? or when i can't get close to minions because the enemy talon can just jump over the wall and one shot me ? "And supports aren't generally weak enough to get oneshot by anyone." - What ???? What ????? What ????????????????????????? I'm done..
: You can choose to be willfully ignorant, it's up to you. However, that doesn't make you right or allow you to improve since you are refusing to be self-critical.
I think the shoe is on the other foot here pal. you are the one playing mid lane most of the time, giving your input on the support items.
Hansiman (EUW)
: From the time they actually built a sightstone? It enables support to be able to build a bit more freely, rather than being forced to early on invest a certain amount of gold solely for wards. It also frees up an item slot for supports, as the sightstone didn't really do much other than provide you with wards. The missions on the support items provides support with something a bit unique to their gameplay style, rewarding certain playstyles depending on which item you select.
No, it doesn't, it is actually the opposite. Before, supports had full gold income from the start when buying the first piece of the support item, now you have to wait for your first back to upgrade your first piece in order to get the full gold income. Before i could get wards at my first back, now in case i take relic and i lose lane, i get my wards at minute 20. Before i wasn't forced to put myself in risky situations just go get my ward item Before it was worth completing the support item, right now it is not worth at all
Tarolock (EUNE)
: every single reply you make makes GonahtanuGepardi original post more accurate, you dont understand the game
Then please explain to me, how after all the %%%%%%ed changes in season 8, he can state that "There are bad changes sometimes or they aren't changing something that has to be changed, but it's rare" Explain to me how the support item changes from sigh stone to the current ones were actually a buff and not a nerf.. Explain to me how the jungle changes were good and not bad, when now people get more autofiled to jungle than to support right now
: >Like the adc changes ? They are fine now. >and the jungle changes ? Those were fine changes and jungle is currently fine, jungle camps could be made to deal less damage though so more junglers are viable but over all, it's currently fine. >and the support item changes ? Pretty much the best change they could have done in the fly and not even remotely as bad of a change as people make it out to be. >and the akali rework ? Akali is in a pretty nice spot right now. Balanced. >and the irelia rework ? Same as akali. The idea itself of reworking those champions wasn't bad at all. Sure they got out in unbalanced states but they have made good changes to those champions so they are no longer overpowered and they aren't underpowered either. You can't expect perfection on release, ever. What matters is how they handle it from there. >These were all good changes right ? In the end, yes. And that's what matters. >or were these bad and happened over the course of 5 seasons ? The changes you mentioned happened in a span of one year. So basically one season, not 5. >this is also just the tip of the iceberg Which is just an illusion created by a lack of understanding.
"Which is just an illusion created by a lack of understanding." Oh, really ? i don't even know why i'm wasting my time with you, i should of ignored you when i saw the following "There are bad changes sometimes... but it's rare"
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Deprecious

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