Hansiman (EUW)
: > If i go 1-2-20 as a support where my toplaner leaves the match after force feeding the enemy for 15 minutes, and we lose, is it justified that I lose 20lp ? But what if you go 1/2/20 as support, but then just avoid everything in late game refusing to assist your team because you got the KDA you want, and now you just want to pamper those stats rather than playing to win? Do you still deserve +20lp if your team now manages to win 4v5? There's far too many factors in play for a win. How do you measure the value of dying when it ultimately saves your team and helps them win a team fight?
Do you really think that people would rather lose the match by avoiding gameplay because of their kda and in that way lose less lp, ot would the reality be that the player whos been playing so well that he gets +10 kda will keep on playing to get as much of LP as the victory would provide? Kinda far fetched. And it doesnt have to be just kda. You can literally add every measurable stat from kda to kill participation to vision score, and let that have some effect. Like I said, the system where YOUR actions dobt matter AT ALL if 1 or more players decide to lose the match is insanely counter productive. If you take a closer look on these boards alone, a lot of people are losing their mind. If the has to be this way, if it really has to be the diarrhea where match making forces you to survive your own team rather than try to beat the enemy team, punish those who are killing the game. Adjust mmr better. Make it so your own gameplay has atleast some effect on the outcome. I dont think its fair to anyone when its possible to be the mvp 70% of the matches played and have a 40% winrate (my euw acc, according to op.gg). Trying to defend the current system means one of two things: either youre delusional or youre really %%%%ing lucky with your matches
: another post about the same thing MATCH MAKING!!!
It seems like it doesnt matter how many people talk about the Riot "Fair matches" Games, the ranked match making keeps diving more and more every season. But like I've said for a few years now, they dont have to care about the player base or the quality of the matches, people still watch pro games and buy skins. The game is dying of literal cancer that is the match making. This is what we get when Riot polices language and not actions
: Despite all of your complaining, you will continue to play the game religiously. So it begs the question, who truly needs help?
Im pretty sure I could be feeding my addictive personality with way worse things than playing a game. Substance abuse, for example. But my addiction to the game doesnt remove the fact that the match making is garbage, its been garbage for years now and the whole system needs a huge fix. For example, Riot should really let individual stats affect the LP we gain or lose. Theres absolutely no good argument to defend the current system, where you gain or lose 20lp, and its all in the hands of the "what kind of team you get this time" - coin flip. If i go 1-2-20 as a support where my toplaner leaves the match after force feeding the enemy for 15 minutes, and we lose, is it justified that I lose 20lp ? is it justified that if I go 0-8-0 as a support, and my team carries my heavy as to victory that I should gain 20 lp ? My personal performance should matter the most, when its the only thing I can have any effect on. In bad and in good.
: Deleted league today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i didnt even say bad word when the guy said ( %%%% your mum! ) i was patient and the only thing i did is said report yoU! and i got ban ! Game 1 In-Game worldofmelodi: WP worldofmelodi: first time playing vayne worldofmelodi: i do worldofmelodi: gj top worldofmelodi: gp worldofmelodi: omg worldofmelodi: i am noob? worldofmelodi: u used ult worldofmelodi: wjem i was too far worldofmelodi: and u didnt even say u will use it worldofmelodi: reprot u for flame worldofmelodi: enjoy ban worldofmelodi: i copuy messages worldofmelodi: my accaunt with 250 level was banned worldofmelodi: guys worldofmelodi: this support ut worldofmelodi: ult worldofmelodi: when i am too far worldofmelodi: i told about malph worldofmelodi: and he flame me worldofmelodi: one more word from w or malph and bye worldofmelodi: i cant worldofmelodi: i have 0 support worldofmelodi: ok and u renjoy ban accaunt worldofmelodi: with this words worldofmelodi: malph reported worldofmelodi: for flame worldofmelodi: wow gj@! worldofmelodi: wow worldofmelodi: like u! worldofmelodi: why u go alone? worldofmelodi: vs 5 worldofmelodi: |omg this stun worldofmelodi: perma stun from jungler worldofmelodi: nice warwick when we atakc u stay back worldofmelodi: when we died u go atack worldofmelodi: we cant win with no teamfight worldofmelodi: its gg worldofmelodi: its gg no help from warwick worldofmelodi: he is just near worldofmelodi: sorry i cant play it anymore worldofmelodi: ok i will stop worldofmelodi: bye worldofmelodi: play alone worldofmelodi: i was flaming? worldofmelodi: xd worldofmelodi: funny worldofmelodi: guys hope you won cos asll team are flamers worldofmelodi: flamers never ddeserve win Game 2 In-Game worldofmelodi: dont farm worldofmelodi: ok sorry take it worldofmelodi: afk? worldofmelodi: omg xd worldofmelodi: yummi didnt even heal worldofmelodi: nice heal yummi worldofmelodi: guys i go other lane worldofmelodi: yummi enjoy solo\ worldofmelodi: nautilus wanna play next game together? worldofmelodi: omg worldofmelodi: meag stun worldofmelodi: i am 2/3 worldofmelodi: so worldofmelodi: ncie steal from Zac worldofmelodi: zac steal more my kilsl please worldofmelodi: riven worldofmelodi: u saw that?) worldofmelodi: i need to play alone or with you worldofmelodi: go away worldofmelodi: from me worldofmelodi: ui too worldofmelodi: with yummi worldofmelodi: gj worldofmelodi: it was last time i tried to help team worldofmelodi: i go farm worldofmelodi: i am not mad worldofmelodi: i am ok worldofmelodi: dont come yummiu worldofmelodi: i dont want your help worldofmelodi: nautilus ur so good worldofmelodi: u are reported for flame enjoy
If you wouldve just inted hard and ragequit the match both times, like Riot wants you to, you would still have your account.
ÌnDeed (EUW)
: You are really stupid if you played your placements at the start of the season...
https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/8hHc2tps-fair-matches-each-team-is-roughly-the-same-skill Doesnt matter when you play this game, the match making itself is rigged. Its been run to the ground by incompetent people because they dont have to take any responsibility. People still watch eSports and spend money on skins. The game itself is worthless for majority of the player base
The1One (EUW)
: Matchmaking for placements is rigged against certain players?
It's not just the placements, thought they are the bottom of shit shit bucket that is LoL ranked match making. https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/8hHc2tps-fair-matches-each-team-is-roughly-the-same-skill Here i documented 16 matches on off season just to show people how terrible the match making is and has been for years now. This is what happens when you police the languange, and not the actions. This is killing a perfectly good game.
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: the quality of gameplay they provide for eune is under any limits ,most of the time the bad players will stand to still play ... , even if they perform close to a troll behaviour , without reasons people run stupid scores , without to even play vs someone that good... , the main problem is that eune ,doesn't has that many good players to cover up this problem ... , neither millions of players like EUW use to have... , i am honestly feeling euw may be a completly different game.. of what is league of legends played as on eune... . With all the respect it feels like Riot games ,pays attention only on servers where they grab the cash in ... , if they would have to do what is right , a good part of eune community would be vanished on good rights.. ,with enought proofs. I one feel like there is a difference ,and Riot can't see how unfair is to keep just some servers clean and some of them to just give up ... , like eune been most of the time the most toxic enviroment into all Riot servers... , so we can accept that Riot stop to care about it ... ,since grief/troll behaviour doesn't get banned in 2 months , what expectations could have a eune player. My suggestion to all those who want quality games ,maybe to try to move to euw... . Guess everyone who is mature and have some vision of his life leaves his country and travel to UK/Germany/French/Spain... and as they do that , if they league of legends players will probably play euw... , ofc if they still have time to do it... , because as far as i heard not everyone feels wonderful to work in those countryes , mostly because of stress and a high volume of work.
I have 2 accounts on Euw, the match making problem and the poor quality of matches are literally the exact copy of Eune match making / matches
mistry (EUW)
: What do you define as a troll and have you got proof of more than 1 example?
anyone who runs the match down, anyone who ragequits the game, anyone who soft afk's in the jungle/furthest lane/base and moves just enough not to be kicked out of the game, while taking no part in the match itself. I got 20+ examples, but since they are all anecdotal, Riot %%%% riders can always ignore them, and I dont blame them. Still doesnt change the fact that this game is dying fast because riot has given 0 %%%%s of their player base for 3-4 seasons in a row.
: Inters get punished rarely, trolls very rarely and afk players are not at all punished because RITO thinks them as their helpers in forcing everyone to play more games to climb and not as players who ruins the games. Just make smurfs to int, troll and afk in multiple games to see this and don't believe in trolls of boards who would write stuff like RITO punishes everyone severely like toxic ones are punished.
100% this. The same people who are killing this game from the inside are crucial to the current ranked match making, which exist to serve only one purpose: force 50% winrate. This is what you get when you police the language and not the actions. Its been like this since season 8, and its only getting worse every month.
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: Because of all your comments, it's likely (>99% sure) that you used the chat to flame the entire team over and over again. After you lost, you immediately started a new one, told you about how "bad" your teammates were, and hoping to get better ones. Then, the game starts and you put some additional pressure by spampinging everybody and everything during the entire game. After "it's lost" (in fact it's not, easy throws), you tell the enemies that you are "unlucky", "doomed" and "never winning" and ask them to report everybody except you since you "were the only good one in your team" Yeah, you deserve to lose a lot
Boy you must be used to being wrong a lot. If im on a loss streak, I say that out loud, and most likely add "Lets turn this around" I dont pressure in games, but I try to call objectives when I see an opening, or ask laneswaps or roam myself to try to make a difference Other than the one Annie game, where we ALL started to run it down because the enemy was in our base way before 20 minutes, I play to win til the end. Ive never stated Im the only good one in my team, theres usually 2-3 others, but for the last 10 matches the loss conditions were other players (teammates), and they singlehandedly got the enemy so much ahead that the winning was impossible. But other than that, the remaining 0,5% of that trainwreck your post is, good job. Really top notch analyzing
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Doidinhe (EUW)
: except going afk means you're down one person until the game ends. Even an 0 15 0 is more useful than nothing. I've had my fair share of toxicity in the past. I've been banned for inting (ie. dying 15 times over and over) so I know riot has enough resources to detect these things to distinguish between going 0 3 and just leaving or going afk for some other reason. Life happens and people shouldnt be banned just for going afk a few times, we have low priority queue for that. But inting and then leaving should be considered a big deal that deserves more than just a low priority queue. Riot has been way too forgiving in what comes to these people who ACTIVELY ruin games when you compare the swift punishments they give to flamers. I mean, flaming is bad but it really doesnt destroy the game. It might make the game annoying or unpleasant but you can mute the flamer. You can't "un-afk" the griefing kid that gives up after dying 3 times. Pulling a win 4v5 is possible in lower elos but once you get to the above average elos it's really just a waste of time and you can still be punished if you leave a game that is clearly over. Basically these guys go AFK and then the rest of their team have to sit through 15 minutes (very optimistic number) of torture. I mean, FAKER lost a 4v5 in bronze. The best player of all time lost a bronze game because he was 4v5. If this isnt enough proof of how afks ruin games then idk what else to say
People who leave games still serve a purpose tho, match making needs its 50% winrate gatekeepers
: You can't claim you strive to have fair and balanced games, while at the same time have a system that actively tries to force players into a 50% wr, those 2 things are directly contradicting! If you need me to explain why the conversation is over.
Sarcasm is a %%%%%%%%%%%%.
: You know that feeling?
Hey guys, you know the feeling when you listen to your fellow players, and take 2 days break from the game, come back refreshed and go back to your second promo match only to be hit by a 0-5 riven force feeding enemy jax while your jungler is being dumpstered by enemy jungler into 3-11 at 26 minutes and somehow you manage to carry ALL OF THAT and youre like "I beat the game! finally i propably get real matches now possibly, Ive proven myself yay!" and NOPE you give your support spot to a teammate and they go 1-21 and youre like "shit i knew it" and while that shit show is going on your kata is not only feeding mid and flaming the jungler, shes also feeding enemy riven you were controlling perfectly and that game is over and then you prove to yourself that youre not a smart person at all, and QUEUEUEUEUEUUE UP BABBBYYYYYY!!!! AND YOU GET BOT SWAIN WHO MISSES EVERY SINGLE CREEP WHILE COMPETING WITH YI IN "WHO CAN FEED THE ENEMY FASTEST" AND YOURE LIKE YEAP, RIOT GAMES CAN GO SUCK A DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
: I bet even if by some planetary once in the universes lifetime alignment a Rioter read this, the person would still be: _Match making can't be to blame for a lot of the negativity?!?_
"Obviously the majority are at 50% winrate, so the match making has to work perfectly"
Father Tios (EUNE)
: I think you're being way optimistic here. I would estimate that around the year 35223 we'll have a working matchmaking system. That's also the year they find that blocking the great mars mental asylum from playing increases the quality of the games significantly. Who would've known.
> That's also the year they find that blocking the great mars mental asylum from playing increases the quality of the games significantly. Who would've known. Which is the first step of the recovery for the patients, since LoL was the one thing that put them in there
Viridiam (EUW)
: I think my worse was when I was jungling with Evelynn, I managed to get ALL the drakes. I did ganked ALL the lanes, and for some reason my team still managed to feed and lost the game. I think that the most saddest thing about the whole issue is losing game with a positive score, like 11/4/5 or 7/3/20.
Overlord dev Riot Grotek said in an interview that your kda or other individual stat shouldnt affect you lp loss or gain, because its a team game and you are supposed to win or lose as a team. He didn't say anything about the moment when your matches change radically, and you become a spectator who tries to survive their own team instead of trying to win the enemy team. It's your job to carry 3-4 people. But its a team effort. Rito. Spaghetti match making. Games.
: You know that feeling when OP never heard of paragraphs?...
You can try to let the anger flow throught your fingers on to the keyboard, and focud on paragraphs. You will fail. Just like the parents of a khazix player I had few matches ago intentionally losing the match because mid didnt answer to his question failed to raise their kid properly
PzyXo (EUW)
: Ok, what about when you're a Kayn onetrick and you go into 3 games autofilled and you dodge them all. To queue again and get autofilled to play a role you don't want and you lose. You get autofill protection and get Kayn twice and get a remake in both games. To get autofilled again the next game. And play again and get that protection and you pick game and you get an afk and 2 inters and 1 flamer the first game, and the second game net goes off. And you get a 5 leaver buster of 20mins. And by that, you wasted 3 hours of your life doing nothing Best feeling
that is the most precious feeling
Kpuc (EUW)
: That's EUNE for you. :D
I got 2 fully loaded euw accounts to prove that life is even more meaningless in EUW
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Fralm (EUW)
: Ranked is dogshit right now
Amen. Only purpose of ranked match making is to force 50% winrate, that added to Riots policy not to punish anyone else but people using certain words because otherwise they would lose too many players is even more ridiculous. Its kinda pathetic, how the game itself is somehow getting better but the matches are just complete dumpster fire all the %%%%ing time because Riot does not give a single %%%% about their player base. They care about money and eSports. thats it. At the same time the quality of ranked matches in the most popular game in the world right now are torture. I cant remember the last time I had a normal match with 10 people playing the game. Every match has atleast 1 troll, feeder, ragequitter or someone wants to lose the match intentionally. You can be sure that ranked isnt getting any better next season either, because instead of fixing the whole system Riot adds more feature in game. Maybe few more skins. 10 new champs. But let the ranked rot, who cares about the most popular competetive game anyways. Just let it die slowly. Its a %%%%ing Chernobyl.
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: I'm just in shock ! Riot, do something already !!!!!!!!!!
You have to understand one thing: Riot does not care about their player base. For them, its more important to artificially keep the winrates as close to 50% as possible. The match making works only for that purpose. The reason why you get matched with tilted people with 40% winrates, inters, those who flame and afk and people who will run the game down trolling game after game after game is to be at 50% winrate. Its the holiest of all things in LoL. The fact is that you can get better at an individual level if you keep playing but it sure as %%%% doesnt show in your rank. After you hit the arbituary "skill cap", which is the biggest %%%%ing joke in this game, you get to play the best version of league: You dont try to win the enemy team with your team, you only try to survive your team. Game after game after game you realize that if you can squeeze 2 wins in a row the next match will be a %%%%ing dumbster fire which you take part of as a spectator, trying to get your mechanical skills a bit better while 1-3 players do what they do every game: Lose the match for you. You cant stop it. And they will not get punished. And thats how LoL ranked has been for the last 18 months atleast, and it will never get better because Riot has made it clear they dont give a %%%% about you. They dont give a %%%% about their player base at all. all heil 50% winrate.
: Playing a game where only flaming gets punished
If Riot honestly gave a %%%% about their player base, they would hit trolls, afks and inters as hard as toxic people, but heres the catch: people who lose matches intentionally or cause losses for their teams serve a crucial purpose. The only purpose of ranked match making is to force 50% winrate, no matter what. thats why it needs to pair people with winstreaks with people who carry hundreds of reports on their back because they will balance the wr%. The biggest crime you can do in this game is climb naturally, then being toxic and after that its just lottery, if you get punished for trolling. most likely you wont be.
: What is wrong with ranked?
https://i.imgur.com/nwquCHb.jpg I honestly dont know whether to laugh or cry. Riot 100% dont give a flying %%%% about their player base. They will let this game die because competetive scene isnt going to carry League alone
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=EatGlueWinGame,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=exyRFefI,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-10T06:18:10.838+0000) > > I've been playing this game for almost 10 years. Ive never seen ranked being destroyed at this level by lazy design/moderation before. The games are not fun anymore, because the amount of trolls, ints and toxic ragequitters are literally killing the game. Here you are wrong, the guys that kills the game are the nasty people who use the chat in negative way, but the system is taking care for them every game, every day someone lose their account because they wrote something, the system is working, anything else that is not chat related is irrelevant, only the chat matter, nothing else. if you are decent player that gives his best to play the game. but use bad words = perma if you are R word troll, destroying tons of games, but have a clean chat = the hero of the month if you want to say something bad, but don't want to be punished = go afk what could go wrong with such system??? i don't really see any problem with such a system, just report the guys that use the chat in negative way, so the system can do its justice. anything seems as riot probably planned it .... at least you are not making post about guys flaming you in chat, right? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Oh so true, I havent seen bad words in AGES {{sticker:sg-kiko}}
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