Rioter Comments
Four Star (EUW)
: The only thing that ruined your promo to silver is you
Rian (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=lookbehindyu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ETPOeLmB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-29T14:14:25.934+0000) > > the player should be allowed to play whatever they want in ranked. restricting them to only play a certent amout of champions is not a good idea. > here are some reasons. > > 1. it would screw up the exchange feature we got. lets say our toplaner wants me to first pick irelia. i have that champ but havent played her enough to "pick her" because i am a adc main. that would suck.. that would make everyone have such a small champion pool because most people only main 1-3 champions... so lets say they get banned/picked in other roles(for example you are a mid yasuo but the enemy picks him top) and ban the other champions you play, what you gonna do in that case? what would happen if your champion you are allowed to play would run out? > > 2. how long would it then take to get every character in the game "playable" in ranked? > > 3. how many games would you have to play to get to play them in ranked? 10? thats to little in my opinion becuase in 10 games you dont really learn anything. you learn some basic combos but thats about it. > > if then is to little. then maybe 20-25 games? > > that would lead to another problem. to get to play all the champs in ranked that would be over 300 games in normals. just to unlock. and i dont rly wanna sit through 1/4 of all my normal wins again to get to play the champs in ranked.. > > TL:DR it is a nice idea, but wouldnt work 1.) That's not an actuall problem rather than a poor excuse. The way we are picking and trading champions can be changed. 2.) + 3.) 10 games is an reasonable amount to lern the basics.
> [{quoted}](name=Rian,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ETPOeLmB,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2016-06-29T23:01:35.802+0000) > > 1.) That's not an actuall problem rather than a poor excuse. The way we are picking and trading champions can be changed. > 2.) + 3.) 10 games is an reasonable amount to lern the basics. You completely missed the point here. It is an actual problem and nowhere close to being just an excuse. Swapping and first-picking certain champions is a very crucial part of the draft right now and if you take that away from us, there will be only counter picking. Basically red team always gets an advantage. 10 games per champion... I'm willing to play AT LEAST 3 champions in every role. That's 15 normal games I need to waste my time on, just to be able to play ranked again? Because I really don't feel like spamming the same champion all the time in ranked. I consider myself moderately good with pretty much all the champions and I want to play them when I wanna play them, really. Once you actually understand THE GAME, you don't need some sick experience with the champion to play it, you just need to know exactly what it does and you'll be able to utilise it all in-game with no problems.
Ekuks (EUNE)
: My two cents about "elo-hell"
So the summary of my games today. * I go top. Our mordekaiser gives enemy fizz 6 kills in 15 minutes, has 17 farm, has managed to build 5 hp pots and un-upgraded boots. He then proceeds to feed the rest of the enemy team as soon as laning phase ends. * I go jungle, make a level 3 gank for first blood. Things look good. Adc and support start flaming eachother, adc goes afk. We lose. * I go support. Our top laner gives enemy ryze 10 kills in 15 minutes. Proceeds to feed them when laning phase ends. * I go jungle. 3 of our team is afk for 15 minutes. They return when enemies are on our nexus turrets and still refuse to surrender. Of course we lose. * I go mid. Our pantheon feeds enemy ryze 7 kills in 10 minutes. Says he's 10 years old and keeps feeding everyone. * I go mid. Everything goes rather nicely. I win my lane, top wins his lane, bot is even and our jungles is rather bad but we can manage. Jungler comes mid and steals my double kill that I was getting solo 1v2. Laning phase ends. I am useless because I wasted my ult + ignite + flash for that double kill. Jungler smites the blue buff that I very much need as Brand, 2 times in a row. I tell them to let me have it. Next time our support blitzcrank comes and last hits it, saying he did it because he was "pissed". We lose because I'm completely sufficated by my own team as they take everything I need to carry, away from me. Yup, I must say elo-hell does not exist. It's definitely just me who's failing and losing all the games. I think I deserve bronze.
Ekuks (EUNE)
: My two cents about "elo-hell"
Another game... I go Nautilus top. Enemy picks Ryze top. Our jungler picks GP vs Ryze, Yi, Yasuo, Braum and Lucian. Best jungler ever? Does this happen in Diamond?
: to be fair, that sound more like a network issue than anything or did you have that "nice communication" with the ADC only But, i thought i´d never surrender, but this one is quite logic to give up. Even for someone like me, this would be indeed a waste of time. they meanwhile might have had a trio on the couch tho, for all i know :D What i dont get and what i never saw in normals until now are trolls and intentional feeders. All the Herpicus McDerpingtons i met were just bad players. I NEVER saw anyone saying "jungle or feed" or "fck you all, im in a bad mood so i play soraka Top" Must be a special kind of human that doesnt even give a sh.t about their ratings to do that in ranked when you dont see it in normals where it wouldnt hurt them (a possible ban is still only a ban, but doing it in ranked loses you something you dont get in normals) I still dont get it.... Mommy forgot the Ritalin?
> [{quoted}](name=JoseJalalapeno,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Bd9BkGnt,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-07-21T00:59:10.694+0000) > > to be fair, that sound more like a network issue than anything > > or did you have that "nice communication" with the ADC only > > But, i thought i´d never surrender, but this one is quite logic to give up. Even for someone like me, this would be indeed a waste of time. > > they meanwhile might have had a trio on the couch tho, for all i know :D > > What i dont get and what i never saw in normals until now are trolls and intentional feeders. > All the Herpicus McDerpingtons i met were just bad players. > I NEVER saw anyone saying "jungle or feed" or "fck you all, im in a bad mood so i play soraka Top" > Must be a special kind of human that doesnt even give a sh.t about their ratings to do that in ranked when you dont see it in normals where it wouldnt hurt them (a possible ban is still only a ban, but doing it in ranked loses you something you dont get in normals) > > I still dont get it.... Mommy forgot the Ritalin? You actually get less rager trolls in normals because people actually play normal for fun. They don't care if they win or lose. The tryhards in ranked want to win and think they're the best of all, and when they don't get it their way, they rage and go afk / troll.
Ekuks (EUNE)
: My two cents about "elo-hell"
So again, I enter a game as a jungler, we have a nice communicating and somewhat promising team comp. We enter the game, 3 people are afk. We are 2v5 with our ADC for the first 15 minutes. Then they come back and refuse to surrender although the enemy has already taken our mid inhib. Does this happen in Diamond?
: He is trying to solo carry. That's the problem. Trying to end as soon as possible is great, trying to hunt your enemy, its great. But that won't always work, while farm is more stable gold income. But he keeps trying to solo carry and only succeeds in 33% of his games. The low kill participation in games he doesn't hard carry as well as low damage to champions proves that the only way he knows how to play this game is when he is ahead and carrying. He can't play the team game and fight together with his team. Its also solo carry or fail for him. And that's another problem of his. Together with blaming the team while he lacks in so many areas, its insane. His stats, in average, do not even compete to gold 5 players. Yet he thinks he deserves to be that high.
> [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Bd9BkGnt,comment-id=000500000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-20T23:39:02.974+0000) > > He is trying to solo carry. > That's the problem. Of course I have to try when the rest of the team are just as useful as a siege minion with 30 hp.
: > [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Bd9BkGnt,comment-id=0005000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2015-07-20T23:15:53.587+0000) > > You only solo carried like 3 or 5 in your last 15 games. > That also means you solo lost your 10 games. You success rate with solo carry man method is 33% or less. why do you have to solo carry? I think this is the biggest problem of these threads? Why isnt it enough to do **OK** in 80% of your battles? Yes, you WILL fuck up some of them, but thats where you learn. Dont ask someone who is learning to play like someone who plays 100 battles a week. Everyone keeps saying that this is a 1vs9 game. Why cant it be at least a 4vs6? Im not even there, like i said, but from what i read and saw from some friends, there are people in bronze that fail at the 10 mines at Minesweeper. Yes, my arguemnts are not that valid at unranked, but how can you get to lvl 28 and have absolutely no clue about anything? I know chances are the same for both teams to get them, but sometimes it feels like your team get 3 and enemy 0-1. There must be some ELO number that distributes them equally to both teams. Id rather play a 3vs3 on the Rift without reporting the zombies for standning in base all game, than have them so randomly thrown at teams. You gotta be lucky not to have to carry, just get 4 normaly people You cant ask someone who knows alot abut the game but is still starting, to carry like someone who is Dia already. Ekuks is not asking to be placed in Plat cos he read about the game or something Not everyone that says **ELO Hell!!111eleven** is a bad player. They may just not be good enough to carry enough windowlickers that shouldnt be allowed to start a PC at the first place
> [{quoted}](name=JoseJalalapeno,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Bd9BkGnt,comment-id=00050000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2015-07-20T23:34:28.347+0000) > They may just not be good enough to carry enough windowlickers that shouldnt be allowed to start a PC at the first place Couldn't have said it better myself.
: I think the biggest problems with these thread is, that on anyone of them, there is someone posting a "get better or you deserve ELO XY" most of these are higher ranked. Now take someone whos skill is good for mid silver, maybe low gold. You want to improve, you wanna learn, but you are no plat/dia material for quite some time. In order to single handedly carry 3/5 games, you need a skill of dia/plat, you need ALOT of games if you are not very talented But you understand the game, the mechanics, think about what was said in the first post here. Your team doesnt. Im not even close to 30, and i wont start ranked soon (if ever) But i know that someone that says ADC and instalocks Talon, and deals less damage than a Sona in a 50 minute game is dragging you down. He completed 3 items in 50 minutes, probably because the recommented paragraph 3 was hidden from him.... I couldnt do more in that one, with only Mundo Q-spam/BamiCinder/Thornmail(i had to), no other dmg items, i did even more damage than the okish mid Ekko And i had quite some games like these today, its the worst but just an example, with only one more player to deal damage we might have won, took them long enough to beat us quite literally 4vs5. Oh, i just remembered. a Rammus that went bot first, then watched me die from behind the turret mid. Lvl 25. He killed 10 creeps all game and just ran into the enemy when i had to retreat. Took me 7 hours to win my first PvP match after i trained a new champ in AI and had to go back to my favourite Udyr to do so. And i didn´t even carry that game. I just did what was needed and the rest of the team was decent enough as well. ** I was lucky with the team. Yes, its only matchmaking luck for us lowbobs!** ___________ I know i wont start ranked in a VERY long time, just because of the (silent) rage it creates when you see people close to lvl 30 that dont even understand what CS is. They will buy champs with RP from their daddys bank account, rather than farm some IP and get better while doing so. Im nowhere near the mechanics and champ knowledge of someone who could carry 4 overextending morons, that think this is StreetfighterXVII I play a pretty good tank/utility top/jungle, im good at Janna, getting better at some other caster supports and i wanna get the tanks too, the ones i want are just too expensive at the moment But i cant play bursty carry types who could carry or help their theam cos im winning lane often. Because i dont. Its pretty even, and that should do for the momement. TLDR Yes, if you are VERY good, you might have skipped bronze in 2 weeks, but if you are silver/gold material you wont carry people that shouldnt even be in ranked
I did actually skip bronze in 2 weeks. And it's just like you said - I cannot carry people who shouldn't even be in ranked. You might find it egoistic, but I do consider myself to be gold material. Thank you for your response, mister Jalapeno on a Stick :D One of the best replies I recieved today.
: you got it wrong mate. Ok, you got a bad game. Then open it: Lets take your Ahri game, since that one says you are gold. Your CS is ...... 88 in 24 minutes. It is possible to get a total of 200-250 CS in 20 minutes. You managed to kill just 3 minions per wave. That basically means, you got gold 2 times slower than normal (just imagine how strong you would have been with double your gold) Your vision wards (pink ward). A total of 0 The entire game. Your assists/kills, as in your kill participation: under 50%. This means you were involved in less than 50% of your team's fights. You got a trinket, that gives free wards. Wards placed during the 24 minute game: ZERO Damage done to champions: 4th in the game. Do you see where I'm going with this? I'm sure you deserve gold ranking, but, try to improve your farm, I'm serious about it. You managed to farm a total of 3.7 minions per minute. Once every 30 seconds a wave containing 6 minions spawns. Once every 3rd wave, it has a cannon minion in it. And that's playing a mid laner, where farm is really important. Next, back to your rek'sai game. >Why I didn't have much farm in that game is because I was just being a pain in the butt for enemy Eve, I was just following him wherever she went, took all the camps she tried to take, and when she tried to gank a lane, I killed her and the lane she was trying to gank. I solo-ended the game in 20 minutes. So CS is really not an arguement here. You got a total of 46 farm in a 20 minutes game. It was amazing that you managed to gank so much and kill the enemy so much. But, your farm is abmisal. You won't always get enemies that let you farm them instead of minions. If you were so far ahead, it would have taken you a total of 2 seconds to clear a camp, like the wrights. Which gives 4 farm........ It doesn't matter if your team mate dies at minute 2 or not. The laning phases lasts over 10 minutes. You should get at least 50 farm in those 10 minutes if you want to get to high silver (not even mentioning gold). Look, your nida game: My guess is that you tried your best but.. you had the lowest impact on the game in your team. I'm not trying to tell you "1v1 me scrubb" or "noob". I'm telling you that you have stuff to improve upon. Like, your last Tresh game. I don't care if its a win or not. You put down a total of: 20 wards in a 40 minutes game. Do you understand that this means? You had on the map half the wards compared to the minutes of the game. Like, my last Janna game. The website says my warding was silver level. I had 13 wards down in a 23 minutes game. My previous Janna game, I had 32 wards down in a 28 minute game. As supports, warding is important. Yes, 3 wards are not enough to see the entire map. But if you keep them in your inventory, it won't help at all. And your low CS, is valid in all games you play in ranked. Regardless if you are winning or losing. Your CS values are always low. Your kill participation in most games is below 50%, which means you are very rarely the one to carry your team, and you rely on your team mates to carry.
You know... Let's say you're top. Your mid laner goes 0/10 in a blink of an eye. You're just safely farming your lane, maybe you even got a kill or two on the opposite top laner. What does the enemy mid laner do? He's tired of farming your noob teammate that now already gives less gold than a siege minion. He roams to your lane. The enemy jungler follows him. Maybe even the support will follow them and give free farm to their adc in mid lane maybe. They dive you. You get some tank items while your mid laner who is now already 0/15 is building full glasscannon because he still thinks he can carry it. Mid and bot lane both outer and inner turrets are gone. The only inner turret remaining is in top lane. You try to farm under it as safely as you can, because that's the only place you have had a chance to place any vision around without risking death. They see you, they dive you while the rest of your team chases the enemy support at dragon because it's fun. They take your last inner turret. You start defending your base and can't have much farm becuase you're a tank top laner and don't have the best wave clear. You can't go ward either because the moment you step out of base they collapse on you and it's all black-and-white again. That's how most of my losses go, regardless of what lane or role I am playing. That's the elo I am in. When I get a lead, however, I try to end the game ASAP, I'm not gonna waste time on clearing the jungle when I can catch the enemies off all the time. I need to end it fast because otherwise my team is gonna throw the game by going ham 3v5 while I'm at base buying items. That's the elo I am in. And then some dude comes and tells me it's all my fault because I'm apparently not able to solo carry every game. I'm not saying I'm flawless. I'm not saying I'm the very best in every single game. No, I also have bad games, sometimes I also suck and fail my team and lose games for my team. But most of the times it's the other way around, and all your arguements are about things that require a team. Kill participation... Why should I go chasing a support with them when I know the rest of the enemy team is about to collapse on them? Yes, I'd get a "kill participation" on that support, but I'd also die. It's not worth it. I can't farm safely when my team is diving enemy nexus and I can't place wards when there's always a fight / diving going on. Regardless of what division you are in, I'd very much like you to come and have a game with me. Let's see how much CS you'll have or how many wards you can place outside your own base.
: you got it wrong mate. Ok, you got a bad game. Then open it: Lets take your Ahri game, since that one says you are gold. Your CS is ...... 88 in 24 minutes. It is possible to get a total of 200-250 CS in 20 minutes. You managed to kill just 3 minions per wave. That basically means, you got gold 2 times slower than normal (just imagine how strong you would have been with double your gold) Your vision wards (pink ward). A total of 0 The entire game. Your assists/kills, as in your kill participation: under 50%. This means you were involved in less than 50% of your team's fights. You got a trinket, that gives free wards. Wards placed during the 24 minute game: ZERO Damage done to champions: 4th in the game. Do you see where I'm going with this? I'm sure you deserve gold ranking, but, try to improve your farm, I'm serious about it. You managed to farm a total of 3.7 minions per minute. Once every 30 seconds a wave containing 6 minions spawns. Once every 3rd wave, it has a cannon minion in it. And that's playing a mid laner, where farm is really important. Next, back to your rek'sai game. >Why I didn't have much farm in that game is because I was just being a pain in the butt for enemy Eve, I was just following him wherever she went, took all the camps she tried to take, and when she tried to gank a lane, I killed her and the lane she was trying to gank. I solo-ended the game in 20 minutes. So CS is really not an arguement here. You got a total of 46 farm in a 20 minutes game. It was amazing that you managed to gank so much and kill the enemy so much. But, your farm is abmisal. You won't always get enemies that let you farm them instead of minions. If you were so far ahead, it would have taken you a total of 2 seconds to clear a camp, like the wrights. Which gives 4 farm........ It doesn't matter if your team mate dies at minute 2 or not. The laning phases lasts over 10 minutes. You should get at least 50 farm in those 10 minutes if you want to get to high silver (not even mentioning gold). Look, your nida game: My guess is that you tried your best but.. you had the lowest impact on the game in your team. I'm not trying to tell you "1v1 me scrubb" or "noob". I'm telling you that you have stuff to improve upon. Like, your last Tresh game. I don't care if its a win or not. You put down a total of: 20 wards in a 40 minutes game. Do you understand that this means? You had on the map half the wards compared to the minutes of the game. Like, my last Janna game. The website says my warding was silver level. I had 13 wards down in a 23 minutes game. My previous Janna game, I had 32 wards down in a 28 minute game. As supports, warding is important. Yes, 3 wards are not enough to see the entire map. But if you keep them in your inventory, it won't help at all. And your low CS, is valid in all games you play in ranked. Regardless if you are winning or losing. Your CS values are always low. Your kill participation in most games is below 50%, which means you are very rarely the one to carry your team, and you rely on your team mates to carry.
You know... Let's say you're top. Your mid laner goes 0/10 in a blink of an eye. You're just safely farming your lane, maybe you even got a kill or two on the opposite top laner. What does the enemy mid laner do? He's tired of farming your noob teammate that now already gives less gold than a siege minion. He roams to your lane. The enemy jungler follows him. Maybe even the support will follow them and give free farm to their adc in mid lane maybe. They dive you. You get some tank items while your mid laner who is now already 0/15 is building full glasscannon because he still thinks he can carry it. Mid and bot lane both outer and inner turrets are gone. The only inner turret remaining is in top lane. You try to farm under it as safely as you can, because that's the only place you have had a chance to place any vision around without risking death. They see you, they dive you while the rest of your team chases the enemy support at dragon because it's fun. They take your last inner turret. You start defending your base and can't have much farm becuase you're a tank top laner and don't have the best wave clear. You can't go ward either because the moment you step out of base they collapse on you and it's all black-and-white again. That's how most of my losses go, regardless of what lane or role I am playing. That's the elo I am in. When I get a lead, however, I try to end the game ASAP, I'm not gonna waste time on clearing the jungle when I can catch the enemies off all the time. I need to end it fast because otherwise my team is gonna throw the game by going ham 3v5 while I'm at base buying items. That's the elo I am in. And then some dude comes and tells me it's all my fault because I'm apparently not able to solo carry every game. Regardless of what division you are in, I'd very much like you to come and have a game with me. Let's see how much CS you'll have or how many wards you can place outside your own base.
: when i wrote that comment, freelo.gg didn't found you exist 0.0 anyway, now it found you. What you can improve about yourself: Your CS, it is VERY low. Even on your 21/1/6 Jungle Rek'sai game, your CS was insanely low. Next, wards: you place very few of them, even when you play as support With the exception of your lee sin jungle games. That's the only time you actually place wards. You got a lot to improve upon ;) Also, your damage to champions is quite low in most games. With tresh in lane for example. Wait for your E passive to charge up fully, then go and poke the enemy support/adc. It might not do a lot the first time, but if you keep doing that over and over again, eventually you will notice a difference :) Also, the river and brushes are not the only places where you can ward. You can ward in lane. Maybe you watched LCS maches, you see how many wards there are in lane, after the turrets have fallen down? That's to see people that walk though lane, and that information can also be useful :) And look, most of your plays are rated as Bronze. Yet, you are Silver. So, to get to gold, there's a long road ahead of you :)
This "freelo.gg" of yours is just straight up useless to get any tips from. All it cares about is my score, and when I have bad games where my score isn't high, it says I'm bronze and that's it. That's just ridiculous. Why I didn't have much farm in that game is because I was just being a pain in the butt for enemy Eve, I was just following him wherever she went, took all the camps she tried to take, and when she tried to gank a lane, I killed her and the lane she was trying to gank. I solo-ended the game in 20 minutes. So CS is really not an arguement here. I ward like hell. But like I stated above, having 3 wards on the map isn't really enough to win games. And yeah, like I said, this "rating system" of this thing is complete nonsense. Judging wether someone is bronze or not based only on their KDA is actually the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. Try maintaining a high CS and KDA when at least one of your team starts brainlessly feeding the enemy team from the very beginning and the rest of the team decide to join the guy at like 5 minutes. Which means constant 3v5 fighting and defending objectives because someone on our team is always dead. And that actually happens almost every single game. No offence but your arguements are just as invalid as it gets.
: Checked your Elo before replying just to make sure you are not diamond or master. But since you ain't. >Chasing kills brainlessly, not giving a single care if more enemies are about to come, or if there is any vision around, or if there are any objectives to >take instead of chasing or not. They just chase. Hungry for frags they just keep chasing anything that looks like an enemy to them, brainlessly. Also happens in plat >Vision. Nobody cares about it. Nobody. Not my team, nor the enemy team, there are no upgraded trinkets in the whole game unless I spam my >team chat every second to spend that stupid 250 gold to get free wards every minute. And even then only one or two people decide to do it. Also happens in plat. Usually when we are behind, nobody buys wards. >Objectives. Nobody gives a damn about them. Turrets, dragon, baron, nothing. Oh, we just killed 3 of the enemy team, including the jungler and the >ADC? We must chase the tank and the midlaner at once! Although we could take at least 2 turrets and a dragon instead. We need kills! Also happens in plat. But with a twist. Everyone has their own vision or style of the game. More exactly, some of us think that Baron is more important than inhib and inhib turret, while others go for those 2 choices. I personally go with Baron choice since: A) gives gold, B) gives stats buff, C) removes any chance from the enemy team getting it D) improves our siege and turret taking potential. But what usually happens is that some people would go farming, other would go taking their own objective and others their own objective. Making it total chaos :3 And that's plat and gold for ya. Ofc, there are games where we all click together and think the same, but that that often. And finally. Use this website to look out for what you should improve http://freelo.gg/ Tbh, you are the first person that it tells me you don't exist haha
> [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Bd9BkGnt,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-07-20T13:48:35.379+0000) > Tbh, you are the first person that it tells me you don't exist haha What do you mean? :D
Impera (EUW)
: No, my friend. This is not bronze elementary. If we managed to play correctly and according to all of this (and a little more), we would already be platinum. Itemization is a huge problem in this elo for most players, and I agree with you, players tend to build raw damage even when behind, cause Mobafire said "Build this item first" or something. I don't have any tips other than maybe asking them to build a bit more tanky from there. If the enemy team is brainless chickens, you just came 50% closer to winning the game! If you notice them running around alone in your jungle frequently, ward up and catch them off-guard. Since your teammates are thirsty for kills, they might just help you out with that unknowingly. I agree. Playing the same champ over and over again can make it boring after a while. But something beautiful about knowing the champion inside out is that you are more aware of how you can build him/her, and mix that up depending on how you feel. I play around 3-4 different champs in every role. It's champions I've proven myself to preform well with. I avoid Vayne since I struggle with her desicion making, I don't play Draven cause I suck at catching axes in a teamfight, I can't play Zed properly and I fail horribly with his shadows sometimes. Even if those champs are insane when they snowball, I know that I can't play them right now, and avoid them in ranked. Some champions are very easy to master, and those are the ones I personally have fun with. It's all personal preferrence in the end. Also, a funny thing is that even enemies tend to rage on each others. Use that to your advantage, and gank the same lane over and over and over again (as a jungler, or roamer). Not saying I supporting flaming at all, but that does help you win games sometimes.
All you said is true. It would be perfect to be able to catch them off running around, but as I try to always be nice to my team and take the role that's free, I am more than often pushed into playing support. Which means I cannot really go and catch someone off without my team, and in my elo map awareness is really not a thing, so you can ping a thousand times and nobody still cares until they see you die and it's time to flame you And like I stated before, having 3 wards on the map is really not enough to constantly catch off the enemies. Especially when you're alone. PS. When I play fun games with people who are actually Diamond+, they often say that I deserve Plat. When my team is decent, I can keep up with holding vision, communicating, I don't randomly feed, I capitalize on enemies' mistakes etc. Surely we all make mistakes, but I know how the game is supposed to be played.
Ekuks (EUNE)
: My two cents about "elo-hell"
Just had a Mordekaiser who had 17 farm at 15 minutes, 5 hp potions and boots. Oh, and he was also 0/6. Do you get those in Diamond?
Impera (EUW)
: Yes, I've had those players too, who rage after being ganked once, who flames the midlaner for not SS'ing, or simply builds full glasscannon despite being 1/8/0. The unfortunate problem, as you name it, is that there's a huge gap in skill level at lower elo's, in the same tier/division. I'm currently silver, and it's a hell to get out of here. But I've come to realize that there's no ticket out to the higher elo's than simply improving yourself. Think about it. There's always something you can improve on, despite having played 3k+ games in your lane. Things I've learned during my neverending journey to perfection is: * Wards. Yes, you might ward a lot, but are you warding _properly_, and on the _right spot?_ Will your ward actually pay off for you where you put it? And if you already have 3 wards out, but they're in the wrong place, then buy new ones, and replace the old. * Itemization. Are you building correctly to how the situation looks like? Being CC'ed as an ADC? Maybe a Quicksilver Stash could help. * Behind in lane? If your enemy can out-duel you, position yourself passively. Don't give him/her the pleasure of harassing you. Also try and freeze the lane closer to your tower. Make him overextend and let your jungler know that a gank is possible. If he can dive you/he's freezing the lane at his tower while you're behind? Go make stuff happen elsewhere. Gank other lanes, roam with your jungler. Instead of being a "hit me" target, you're assisting your team effectively with extra damage/CC. * A thing I notice a ton of players are struggling with, is _mastering a champion_. Having mastered a champion, you will be able to execute impulsive actions more precise and correct, and also know your limitations and possibilities inside out. This alone gives you a huge advantage in the game. Even champions like Riven and Vayne is not a huge threat when played by new players who is unfamiliar with their kits. Being a master with simple "noob" champions can make you equally effective as a master Vayne player. It all depends on your knowledge about posibilities and limitations of your champion of choise. * Make sure you CS properly! Having around 170 CS at 20 min without any kills is almost as good as a roamer with 8 kills and only 90 cs. So practicing last-hitting could pay off way more than just constantly roaming. About the team only chasing for kills, it's just unfortunate that they haven't learned the importance of objectives. Try to lead your team to do objectives. Ping the turrets, dragon and baron when there's an oppertunity. That's all you can do really. Just make sure there's no risk of enemies catching you while doing it. I hope it was a little helpful. If I got anything wrong, please let me know. Always looking for improvements. Cheers!
I agree with pretty much everything you said there. Well put! But the thing is, I don't do any of those mistakes, haven't made them for a long time now (I'm not saying I'm flawless, but this stuff is bronze elementary, isn't it?) In fact, I too often seem to be the only player in the game who doesn't build according to mobafire or something. They don't care if they're winning or losing - if they're playing Rengar, they ARE going for that Hydra first item! About warding properly. Well, you surely do have a point there, but when everyone (including the enemy team) are headlessly running around the map like chickens, it's gonna really cost you a lot of gold to update your wards every 10 seconds. My priorities are dragon, baron, and buffs. Or wherever I feel the most action is / is going to be happening. About the mastering a champion... Well, it really gets boring after you play 50 games in a row with any champion. Of course it's cool to carry with them, but it just loses the beauty of the game and gets flat out boring. Plus, you can rarely play more than 3 games in a row in the same role, unless you're maining support.
Ekuks (EUNE)
: My two cents about "elo-hell"
Quite frankly, I'd love if Riot had a way to clean your whole match history, and clean your elo. I'd not hesitate to pay 100 euros right now to buy that thing and start from a clean sheet with the same account.
: Allright, so why don't you level a new account, jump into ranked and see how far you get on a clean sheet?
I have actually thought about that. But after spending about 500 euros to get nearly 100 champions and 50 (including Legacy and Legendary) skins on this account... I really don't feel like starting on a clean sheet :/
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: Another reason is the fact that the OP seems not to have understood the point of this video, since he felt the need to write how much the community sucks at the end of his post. Thats the reason why I downvoted it.
The truth is, I never said the community sucked. All I said was one of the true reasons we cannot communicate properly - people who don't even understand English are forced to play on the English servers (for whatever reasons). The outcome of that is that about 60% of the games people are talking different languages and that's actually one of the seeds of flame.
MrFIshi (EUNE)
: Disgusting players in this game.
All I can say - don't become one of them. This is the real reason this game is full of those people. Everyone is new at some point, they get flamed and called a retard, then they get better and become the toxic one who starts flaming the new players. "You have to be the change you wish to see in the world." -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAabW7JfTQ
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