CliffiToF (EUW)
: No it's not. I should know, it's my business lol. It just exposes how stupid and lazy riot is, they can only think in terms of "do nothing or ban". All they have to do is demote people who get 50% more death, whatever the reason. It doesn't matter if they're inting or not, they're a hindrance to their team. Same with afk.
> to do is demote people who get 50% more death What does that mean? 50% deaths more than what?
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Can we just talk about this Zed Yasuo fanart?
When saying %%%% Yasuo and Zed gets a new meaning.
Lynnedin (EUW)
: Are you telling me its impossible to code a system that detects a player: - Dying almost once a minute; - Running into two enemy players with a big enemy minion wave; - Not auto attacking or using spells on the enemies; - Running into the enemy team without any teammates present; Now it is of course impossible to look into a player his or her mind to know if it was intentional but given all of the above circumstantial evidence, the system should flag this as intentional feeding.
> Dying almost once a minute; > Running into two enemy players with a big enemy minion wave; > Not auto attacking or using spells on the enemies; > Running into the enemy team without any teammates present; We already have a system that does detect players based on those conditions. Too bad at the moment players manage to avoid those conditions. Also even in your case that player didn't meet the first condition, not even close.
Lynnedin (EUW)
: Support intentionally feeds 0-18 in a 28 minute ranked game and no ban??
> Is it that hard to create a system that picks up this kind of behaviour and then punishes the player accordingly? Yes, it is. At best reliably automatic system can detect only the most obvious intentional feeders, any less and we're risking punishing innocent players, which already happens once in a while. The fact that people tend to call anyone playing a bit bad troll or intentional feeder doesn't help fo the system either.
NECKFACE (EUW)
: Can't play this game any longer, I'm done.
Are you sure the problem is not at your end?
: [EUW] Compensation Mission Live in Client!
Oh boy, free tokens for my smurf on which i didn't even play on those peak hours and didn't suffer any loses.
: You're welcome to face my Nocturne in 1v1 in lane!!
Zymexxx (EUW)
: I don't care. The community should not suffer for 1+ months of inting but calling this player "trash" gets you permaban.
There's the question of what is pratical to achieve vs what you want. Your standarts are unrealistic. Others being toxic doesn't give you a free pass to be toxic back to them. Surprisingly it doesn't seem like community suffered that much, from the screenshots you provided it looks like he managed to achieve pretty decent winratio.
: UNLUCKIEST EUW! LAST 22 GAMES IN EVERY GAME MOST DMG DEALT TO CHAMPS AND TOWERS BUT ONLY 35% WINRATE
Wait a minute, that's not jungle nocturne, that's lane nocturne, he's not good in lane. You're also building pure damage, not even boots. I'm guessing you often lose lane, but then later on just start ulting enemy squishies and building up high damage numbers for the end game screen. In most of your games you die quite a lot too. Your playstyle looks very feast or famine(leaning on the famine side).
Zymexxx (EUW)
: I know what a bot is and it makes ZERO DIFFERENCE. Hes INTENTIONALLY FEEDING FOR OVER A MONTH.
He's likely been detected by Riot as a bot and should be banned sometime in the future. Riot bans those in waves to avoid revealing how they find them.
: Will smurfing ever stop?
Unlikely, but upcoming ranked system should decrease it. > They should really add a phone verification for rankeds. This is unlikely to solve the problem and will just make things unnecessarily harder. Not everyone has phone andiIt's not that hard to get another phone or even just another phone card.
Zymexxx (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0jELa7P,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T07:51:46.266+0000) > > You suggested that detecting inters is easy and i told you why it's not. What is the issue with what i said? > > Also, as i said it doesn't look like an inter, more like a bot. And i told you, it's an inter not a bot. Hard to comprehend? P.S. It is easy to detect, anyone with grade school math could make a simple equation to check the stats.
I don't think you understood what i meant when i said it's a bot, he's using a botting script to earn EXP without playing. What stats exactly?
Shamose (EUW)
: Why does this dude have a thread where basically everyone upvoted a comment?
Zymexxx (EUW)
: I didn't include any names as seen in the screenshots. They just don't want the bad PR that they are incompetent and don't ban trolls.
> They just don't want the bad PR This is a very weak argument, there are plenty of complaints against Riot in boards every day, they get plenty of bad PR. I don't know the exact details maybe you broke some other rule or weren't that good at not including any names as you think.
Zymexxx (EUW)
: I did and Riot removed my post. Amazing company isn't it?
Naming and shaming is against the rules. It encourages witch hunting.
Zymexxx (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0jELa7P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-12T07:45:45.814+0000) > > That's still a pretty weak proof. You claimed: > > But some of those games still have assists, death counts are very low too. > Keep in mind that an automated system still needs concrete stats to judge whatever player is actually intentional feeding. > According to you, that stat is no kills or assists, but he still manages to get some once in a while. Just because it's obvious to you it's still hard to create a reliable automated system to do the same. Programming isn't magic. > > Lastly, this looks like a boting issue, Riot does detect them, but bans them in waves Are you new to this game? Because your statement reeks of no experience. How is 100+ games with inting stats weak proof? I bet you wouldn't convict a murderer if you saw the evidence on video either with your logic. Any inter can get an assist or 1 kill. Like at the end of the game where they might push nexus and he rushes out to kill a low hp champ. I personally played with this person, and he just clicked into the enemy nexus every time he spawned. P.S. hes not botting. his name is literally something with "flamer" in it.
You suggested that detecting inters is easy and i told you why it's not. What is the issue with what i said? Also, as i said it doesn't look like an inter, more like a bot.
Zymexxx (EUW)
: Riot does not ban intentional feeders, proof inside
That's still a pretty weak proof. You claimed: > It's not hard to detect 50+ games in row with 0 kills and assists. Riot just doesn't care and/or are incompetent. But some of those games still have assists, death counts are very low too. Keep in mind that an automated system still needs concrete stats to judge whatever player is actually intentional feeding. According to you, that stat is no kills or assists, but he still manages to get some once in a while. Just because it's obvious to you it's still hard to create a reliable automated system to do the same. Programming isn't magic. Lastly, this looks like a boting issue, Riot does detect them, but bans them in waves
Zymexxx (EUW)
: It's not hard to detect 50+ games in row with 0 kills and assists. Riot just doesn't care and/or are incompetent.
Can you give some recent examples?
Zymexxx (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Healerius Hiiri,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6qs959Bo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:00:41.194+0000) > > You can still get banned for inting, so not worth it. > > ~~You gotta perform badly enough so it's annoying but still seems like just accidentally dying a lot.~~ Not really. I checked history on inters I encountered and they have 50+ games 0/10/0. So the ban chance is minimal. But perma ban via chat is 100% guaranteed after 5 violations.
What he said isn't wrong, just because some people get away doesn't mean you can't get banned for inting. Inting is also harder to detect too, the fact that people tend to call anyone just starting to do badly inter doesn't help either.
: What does Riot think about his reddit post about Riot hating Yorick?
Man, that comment section is quite horrible. People are denying that vote manipulation was not the reason for the removal of his thread then literally the previous thread was: https://www.reddit.com/r/yorickmains/comments/9z6ipc/i_wrote_a_post_regarding_yoricks_patch_history/
HoR RooneR (EUNE)
: Akalis nerf.
Riot is currently testing some Akali shroud nerfs: https://twitter.com/MarkYetter/status/1071479765897424896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1071479765897424896&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefault%26f%3Dsurrenderat20%26t_u%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.surrenderat20.net%252F2018%252F12%252F127-pbe-update-new-emotes-loot-assets.html%26t_d%3D%250A12%252F7%2520PBE%2520Update%253A%2520New%2520Emotes%252C%2520Loot%2520Assets%252C%2520%2526%2520Tentative%2520Balance%2520Changes%250A%26t_t%3D%250A12%252F7%2520PBE%2520Update%253A%2520New%2520Emotes%252C%2520Loot%2520Assets%252C%2520%2526%2520Tentative%2520Balance%2520Changes%250A%26s_o%3Ddefault%23version%3Db1154ecf4b95e86261f41bc70c721c86
Zuthonior (EUW)
: What's the point of playing ranked now?
Skills obtained during pre-season won't disappear just because your rank was reset.
pascalmx (EUNE)
: is there freedom of thought in this forum
I would probably ask for context, boards have rules and it's likely they broke them. I've seen quite a lot of threads regarding bots or cheating players and don't think they were deleted. Also, this is definitely not a new player advice
: People only play this game because they are addicted
Hmmm, hard to say, i wouldn't be so sure.
Rioter Comments
: I'll never play League of Legends game in my life
ThaaZhuu (EUNE)
: okay I understand but why do it in the first place the change on her AOE then? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 and why her Q needs to be changed bc of being played in last season's Championship xd I just find it unfair. Thanks though for your time.
It gave too easy waveclear, which allowed her easier roams and her roams are very strong.
MonsteRock (EUNE)
: Didn't play for a year, just did 4 ranked games and got iron
Oh boy, you missed a whole year of changes. The fact that you didn't play on S7 means you already had reset MMR, which was probably low as %%%%. Riot is planning some ranked changes for S9 and a part of them were shipped this patch, there are 2 new leagues: iron(below bronze) and grandmaster(between master and challenger), they also removed 5th division. Lastly, placement games work slightly different, you get rank after the first game, which shows the lowest rank you can get, loses won't make you lose rank, but during the placements, you will climb quickly. Placements seem a bit buggy now, some people report getting placed in wrong places.
gazzo97 (EUW)
: why play this game?
> it's not like in the long term it adds **to your personal growth or something**, at this point, it is just an addiction that needs to be ended. I actually think it does. If you don't play ranked, just playing the game and learning how to deal with your emotions, staying calm and not flaming back will definitely be useful in real life. I sometimes have to deal with annoying people at work and my co-workers tend to get surprised how calmly i manage to deal with them. If you take ranked seriously there's a lot to be learned there too, if you take it seriously. Learning how to improve, how to learn, how to reflect on yourself, don't blame the environment, but think what you should do yourself. It's also quite a taxing mental activity that will be beneficial in other fields. There are videos telling people to do certain stuff to be successful at life, which i already got from climbing. I actually don't even play the game for "fun" anymore, it's one of the ways to grow.
Hexa XV (EUW)
: > Having to choose runes is important only for smurfs. Where did you get this information? There are some people who actually READ before playing game. They are not just going to click "start" and do whatever games tell them to do. After 5-10 games you want to improve and learn how everything works. By closing them a chance to build something like normal players do, you are stopping them from learning stuff that is needed in higher levels. I guess some people are becoming used to ready runes and everything Riot tells them to use at the beginning and they are just throwed back to reality when they are pushed to Bronze V... >This isn't a board game, it's way more complicated. Wow. Very smart comment. You know, I can see it's not a board game but let me tell you (maybe it's something new to you) that EVERY game has a rules. If not then it's not a game but just some mindless activity without any point. > Are you sure you're thinking about beginners, not about yourself and others like you who create new accounts? Yes I know because when starting new account I met some people starting this game for the first time (usually veterans after other moba games). Also, I remember myself starting this game for the first time and any friend that becomes the journey in LoL. It would be nice if Riot would stop to treat any new person as someone who have no idea how to play this kind of game. Or at least helped those people to play like they should.
5-10 games huh? Well let's have a look https://i.imgur.com/qZ3GZjS.png[/img] it takes 20 games to get to level 10 I did a quick search and it looks like at level 9 flash and smite get unlocked. At level 13, which according to the graph should be 30 games, you get to choose keystone runes, at level 15 even more runes get unlocked and it looks like at level 17 all runes get unlocked. For one i think you're being a bit impatient, 20 games to unlock all the summoner spells. > By closing them a chance to build something like normal players do, you are stopping them from learning stuff that is needed in higher levels Just because it's necessary for higher levels doesn't mean we must give this to them right away. Ranked i would say is the true purpose of league, but it's quite heavily discourged from entering it once reaching level 30. I also think you're understimating the complexity and their impact of the runes, for beginners the impact of each individual rune is gonna be hard to feel. The difference between each champion and whole preset pages is gonna be much more impactful than changing individual runes. The smooth entry barrier is quite important for the game.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Here's a list of perverted Evelynn Quotes
Marces T (EUW)
: WTF?
The reaction itself and then everyone reacting to that just blew this out of proportions. Overall this whole thing is just really stupid.
Glaiver (EUNE)
: Note to self: Don't give people your Jungle role just because they said "I can't supp, let me carry"
You still could've ended up in the same lost game if you didn't decide to give the role so your bot fed out of their mind because your support sucks.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: He claimed he was banned in 2013, so it was the old banning system, not the current one. Back then there were ban durations that were between 14 days and forever.
Ok, so he said in 2013, currently, we're in 2018 season 8 so i'm guessing it was season 3, i think punishment system worked maybe slightly different(i think it was day bans instead of chat restrictions), but i don't think we had anything between 14 day-ban and forever, especially not 1 year ban. I think at one point Riot tested a longer ban than 14-day ban(maybe 28-days?), but i simply don't remember such weird one-year bans.
: Ye, indeed. Ofc most of the times higher elo players will be correct. But it shouldnt interfer with the conversations with other players right? I mean, I should not just ignore a silver player just cuz I am Plat right? (Example)
: > That doesn't sound connected to the question you're asking in this thread unless i misunderstood something while reading it. I apologize then :P I mean, short answer: I dont think rank stats should interfering with interactions with others players. Just because he is Silver doesnt mean he should not get the same attention the other higher elo players get. Everyone needs a chance. Everyone is equal. My opinion: But for me, most of the players takes rank stats too seriously. And what I mean with that is that they judge people by their rank stats. It shouldn't be like that. Thats almost the same of judging a person by their looking. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
I think most people avoid using rank as an argument, they usually manage to argue in a normal way(at least in boards and Reddit). Personally, the way i see it when someone tries to bring up rank they gave up on their argument, have nothing better to say and just lost the discussion. I also feel like it's low elo players who tend to argue using rank more often(could be simply because of the difference in numbers). Still, despite that, i still think a high elo player is more likely to be correct and it's naive to think otherwise. Not saying low elo player can't be right, there's still a chance.
: > Again why the focus on winning and losing? Probably because they're your friends, i feel like there are other reasons than just winning or losing someone might play with someone. thats why ranked stats doesnt matter. > Why are you connecting winning/losing games with skill? Skill is skill, rank is just a representation of it. Challenger players still lose plenty of games. I think it's naive to not accept the fact that higher skilled player will know better. I was talking about winning and losing because of the placements. They might have skill but still get a low elo. Just cuz they lost some games.
> thats why ranked stats doesnt matter. Ye, i agree. But i feel like we're talking about different things. > I was talking about winning and losing because of the placements. That doesn't sound connected to the question you're asking in this thread unless i misunderstood something while reading it.
: Dude, everyone loses some game specially in ranked too. Its not just because he is silver that he will not get the attention he needs. Or the information he gives to help others in the game will NOT get received cuz of the ranked state. Lets see: Im silver, yes Was I bronze: yes Isnt it suppost to bronze players to be bad? Well dont know how I got many m7 masteries and S´s in my games. Im so bad. Dude, for me, ranked doesnt matter. People are good in their way. And we just need to find a way to colabrate. And geez: > Well rank is a representation of your skill, which shows how well you understand the game. I dont think so. We lose some, we win some. Sh*t happens! I am silver now, and im playing with Gold and Plat (Normal games with friends ofc) Wonder why they still didnt left me cuz of my ranked state :D They should think I am bad :D buhu
Why are you connecting winning/losing games with skill? Skill is skill, rank is just a representation of it. Challenger players still lose plenty of games. I think it's naive to not accept the fact that higher skilled player will know better. > I am silver now, and im playing with Gold and Plat (Normal games with friends ofc) > Wonder why they still didnt left me cuz of my ranked state :D They should think I am bad :D buhu Again why the focus on winning and losing? Probably because they're your friends, i feel like there are other reasons than just winning or losing someone might play with someone.
: What was the price in EUNE ?
Didn't buy it so don't know.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Why does rank matter in interactions with players?
Well rank is a representation of your skill, which shows how well you understand the game.
MARBL3 S0DA (EUNE)
: REVERT AKALI
Revert is definetely not an option. Her W is the biggest pain point for many players, that's the only thing they should fix.
Ðeathmarkx (EUNE)
: Is it possible to get unbanned on any old account after you're reformed and you just miss your old 1
Some time ago there was an experiment in NA they allowed some banned players to get their accounts back, i don't exactly remember the conditions. People are still asking about the results of that experiment, but so far no results. So if NA banned players didn't screw up there's a chance that in the future you could attempt to get it unbaned.
paq (EUNE)
: Whether it is worthwhile playing on the support ?
: If i wanted to buy the World Pass i had to pay 20€ for the paysafecard (we have 10€,20€ and 50€ here). The world pass price was 1650RP = 1580RP(10€ paysafecard) + 70RP(cucked). Cuz RIOT are greedy monkeys. So now, instead of them losing the additional 70 RP, they lost 10€ from alot of costumes. RIOT smd :) Now i hope you understand why idgaf about this game anymore and why i am mad at this trash company with the recent bullcrap they have been doing.
Well it's still a huge overreaction because of a minor cost increase that affects only some people.
vladiq (EUW)
: TYLER1 REACT TO SNEAKY's COSPLAY
Damn Sneaky, he sure knows how to get my penis confused.
: I would have bought it if it was 10€ but since they deliberately cucked me, i wont top-up the 20€ to buy something that's 11€.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough, would you not have to pay 20€ if it cost 10€? You could pay less? What do you mean deliberately cucked you? The way you describe it it sounds like you're just stingy for 1 extra €.
canablyss (EUW)
: please review my ban tencent
Tencent? for that you should contact them in China, not on EU boards
chefff v2 (EUW)
: “Is iT mEtA?”
Trolls happen to both teams, it won't affect your ability to climb, if you take things seriously you're actually gonna be able to climb easier.
: ?XD To get 11€ of RP here you have to get 20€ paysafecard. Talk about petty niggle, downvoted bcz u downvote me. DEAD GAME btw.
and you don't if it was 10 €?
Surma (EUNE)
: Who was that moron in Riot design team
you know the saying "keep your friends close and your enemies even closer"
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