: Never reveal your full hand
There are two rules for success: 1. Never reveal everything you know
Moenky (EUW)
: Why are you guys on the Boards? :3
I'm at work and i'm bored. When i'm home, on vacation or something similar i barely visit boards.
: Graves was still a prominent jungler the year he got his... plus the year before he hadn’t gotten his rework when the choice was made so he couldn’t have gotten it And mao was also still a prominent top laner. So both where in the meta at least at the beginning of the year. Thing you’ve got to re,ember the choice is made early in spring... which means that by that time the meta will still have reminents of last year’s meta who have survived pre season... so when choicing the champion these champions have got strong arguments for picking them as they where big picks and showed no signs of stopping... riot have to predict the meta with these... and it doesn’t always work but even then these two wherent far off the mark. Ori came out of no where and wasn’t even close to meta at the beginning of the year.
Graves became prominent only late into the year, he was nerfed after dominating previous year, his early spring was non existent and Mao was visible only in LPL(i think, definetly not in the west or even soloQ)
: The fact that you cant criticize anyone for anything, otherwise you get banned. A safe space for soft people.
You can criticize, but if you do it in a wrong way you will get banned.
: Victorious skins are the same as they’ve always been... each one has been a champion who has had a large impact in the meta of that year... that’s the case for every year they’ve all been champions who have made a large impact in that year. Even if we didn’t know what it was exactly we can tell just from the criteria... > To begin, we take a look at champions that had a big competitive impact so far that year—this is largely based on Ranked and Pro play. Once we have some ideas for potential champions, we narrow down that list by eliminating champions who: That’s what the victorious skins are, champions who have had a big competitive impact that year... ori hasn’t she’s been absent all year so she falls completely outside of the criteria that riot have given **after** the decision for it being ori was made, therefore they haven’t changed it since then. So we know enough about victorious skins and we’ve been given enough up to date information about the selection process to know what victorious skins stand for, why each champion got their victorious skin and that ori doesn’t fit in
> Victorious skins are the same as they’ve **always** been... each one has been a champion who has had a large impact in the meta of that year... That's not true, Maokai and Graves were off by a year. And now Oriana too.
Shozis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=mr5UEZXG,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-15T07:33:59.221+0000) > > I've downloaded the replay, he got mad on Elise that ganked for him and they both died, then he started to run it into tower haha. Nice try. Where can you get a replay?
In your client, i think in your profile page, there's a search option, in it you write the nick of the player in question, there you will see his profile, then you can just go into his matchhistory and download any replay you want.
: Possible blitzcrank rework to make him more balanced
For the record, for those, who may not know, Medller mentioned that Blitzcrank is next likely candidate for an update: > [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=zpaM5Ki1,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-10-05T16:48:11.294+0000) >We'll see how Ezreal lands, in particular what the response from players is like in terms of feedback, engagement etc, before hard committing to more like this. Blitzcrank's the champ who comes to mind for me as a strong candidate, that's just personal opinion though, we haven't come to a consensus yet. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/zpaM5Ki1-quick-gameplay-thoughts-october-5?comment=000a0000
: Having victorious skins of previous seasons is a stupid idea... you don’t celebrate the season’s end with a champion not in the season. And yeah swain was a big pick in pro play, particularly mid lane and this was before the adc changes, he’s been popular from his rework until now. As it’s both ranked and pro play swain got out on the list, but his rework does invalidate him... still plenty of others that would make more sense
Well, at the moment it looks like the meaning of Victorious skin has changed and at least as far i looked up we don't really know what exactly Victorious skin IS, only how to get it and how it's decided.
Jyn3rso (EUW)
: Not playing for 2 months, how it has affected my life.
This is gonna be me: > You may dismiss this saying, it is okay, I'm not addicted, my life is great, I am productive and yet still play this game. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
: Mid lane does have some prevelent picks... talon, LeBlanc, ryze, taliyah, yasuo, ahri, Zoe, akali, galio, swain, Syndra, vlad... hell even zilean and Malz have more of a claim than ori. Even if some don’t meet the requirements there are more than enough champions this year to choose a mid laner without defaulting to one that was never picked... going for ori is such a weird choice because there was just no reason for it.
Sure, but as i said already multiple previous victorious skins weren't champions of the season(usually late a season). And again SWAIN? i keep seeing it mentioned and i find that the most ridiculous suggestion people could come up with and i'm guessing the only reason they suggest him is because of pro-scene(sorry don't watch it so don't know). Swain was relevant in soloQ only after adc nerfs. He also was reworked this year, that makes him a huge uncertainty.
: How is it unfair? Have you taken into consideration that it's the only cdr item that adc's have? If it was so unfair then why weren't ER users overpowered? > Especially right now with that cdr rune. Dunno what ur on about, even before the new runes all adc's ran +10% cdr scaling runes. Nothing changed there except that they use it more rarely now.
The unfainress is pretty simple, it gave 30% cdr, while any other item in the game for any other role has 20% I don't remember cdr runes being that popular on adcs, current cdr rune is also easier to access.
: So, are you going to revert the Essence Reaver rework and why not?
Sorry but i think the previous version of ER was the bad design, i always found it pretty unfair compared to other roles that a single item could give that much CDR. Especially right now with that cdr rune.
: But thats a moot point if it doesn’t bring anything to the descussion... if ori still isn’t a good pick for this year’s victorous skin despite your correction no real point in correcting us... might as well save it for when the correction actually matters.
There's another issue. It's pretty obvious why Riot wanted a midlaner this season, it's the last role without a Victorious skin. Also i think midlane is in a very balanced state right now. At least for me this year nothing in midlane stood out(at least in soloQ). There simply was no good pick this year in midlane. Also multiple previous victorious skins were late to being relevant to the season. I think good balance being the reason.
: But ori isn’t exactly big in ranked either... not popular nor even meta.... so still doesn’t make much sense
That's not what i'm arguing about. I just find it wrong how whenever i see people discussing this matter it's always only about competetive, people think that this skin is entirely decided by the pro scene.
CJXander (EUNE)
: I've climbed to gold in 6 hours on my secondary account as support SOLO (no premade)
This is getting a rather surprising backlash. I feel like it's because it's proving a rather uncomfotable proof that silver is not impossible to escape from even with Janna. I mean it's not even such a special thing, high elo streamers and youtubers do it all the time.
FlameClub (EUNE)
: Another mine discussions(assassins)
2 Qs and 3 Es? that's a lot of abilities, they have cooldowns, so this damage wasn't even burst. So this is 200 damage per ability, then there's the fact that 1000 damage against a tank isn't too impressive, he pretty much had to use full combo and that shouldn't have killed you, it was a wasted combo for a tank, now that assassin is useless.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: Because noone here seems to understand why Ori got the skin.
Looking at the comments people really overvalue this part: > to begin, we take a look at champions that had a big competitive impact so far that year and completetly ignore this part: > this is largely based on** Ranked **and Pro play. We already have pro scene skin, it's championship skin line.
: Victorious Orianna?!
I think victorious skin wasn't the champion of the season already for the past few seasosns, it was more like a champion that was already very impactful sometimes in the past. I also noticed at least on Reddit people being way too stuck on competetive aspect as the main reason what champion should be victorious. In the past it was based on competetive part of the game because it was a very good indication what will be popular in soloQ, but this wasn't true for the last few seasons and the skin that directly represents competetetive is the championship skin, why do we need 2 competeteive scene skin representations? I will also gues the reason Riot probably moved away from picking champions that were popular that season and competetive season was because they were likely to get limited by the role, i would imagine jungle or support champion is much more likely to be competetivly and in soloQ consistent throughout the season than other roles and others just end up without a skin in forever(or with a very small number).
: I remeber now why i quit trying to climb and why i quit league a few years ago.
Pick a game any game(prefferably a more even one so that there would be what to review), i'll review it and say what you did wrong. Or i will pick one myself that seems good enough.
: I like how they downvote without watching the video. Downvoters its a meme video {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Considering the title it looks like this time he took it seriously.
: oh yeah i forgot the caps lock is the official language of anger on the internet WELL BECAUSE I LOST LANE SO HARD TWICE BECAUSE OF DUMBASS ENGAGE SUPPORTS playing them/with them and playing agianst them isnt the same thing first game I was playing garen (dont mock the pick lethality garen with dark harvest is pretty op) i got first blood almost got a double but i misplayed and we died ok my bad I want to farm now support hooks them again and we die LEONA STARTS FLAMING ME I leave lane I stop feeding and get kills, but she doesnt, clearly i was the bad one here we won the game barely, I contributed, I didnt do that good, but i did pretty good damage and got a bunch of kills and towers second game I wanted to try lethality mf, for some reason, i am not that good with her, so i am gonna play her extra safe support locks in shen (oh god no) guess what happened? enemy bot lane got an easy double kill and first blood I afked..not gonna have this shit all over again later in post game screen that mastery 6 shen score was 0/7 my bad for leaving this amazing shen with no adc vs two adc's if you quit making excuses to defend your favorite role would be better than scrutnizing others yes you dont know how many accounts i have and what level is each making assumptions is pretty stupid when i play leona or shen i play them for their goldy cc in teamfights not for their piss poor 1v1's or 2v2's when i had a lux support and she was (good frankly) i did amazing with garen bot so make out of that what you want
So it was Garen. Garen is an early game champion, you need to get a lead and snowball it, you even got the lead but it seems you preferred to do nothing with it. MF is also another Early game champion who wants to harass a lot, MF especially here is perfect with an engage support, her make it rain makes it easy to set up, harass and all in. > later in post game screen that mastery 6 shen score was 0/7 my bad for leaving this amazing shen with no adc vs two adc's this is a very stupid argument, you left and he stayed, of course, he will have deaths. If you want to preserve your perfect 0 deaths KDA just never leave fountain. > yes you dont know **how many accounts i have **and **what level is each making assumptions** is pretty stupid This kind of information is pretty useless. The fact that you have more accounts and the fact that you mentioned you afk just shows that you're a toxic player.
: I did face such leona's before I am not talking about good leona's (who are rare btw) so chill
I think you're the one who's not chill here. You sure you a lot of cap lock in your original post.
: how to beat engage supports: you dont 1- they have a suicidal design you dont need to try hard 2- ez pz lane 3- ??? 4- profit
Wait until you face Leona or Alistar who start towerdiving and killing you every time you come to the tower
: hey i looked you up and you are support main but what do you know of engage support? even if you are diamond you mostly play nami and sona who are relatively safe i am talking about melee engage supports who once they engage can't get out of the fight nunu doesnt count he has self heal and a lof of disengage wait what..so i am not allowed to play safe like i am used to? wow what a selfish prick I am .......
Yes i do play an enchanter, but i do face engage supports, i know how they play, how they are supposed to be played and how to beat them. If you allow me as an enchanter to poke you down you won't be getting any farm whatsoever. Also: > mostly play nami and **sona ** Sona? where did you see that? my second most played champion is Soraka. I don't think it's a smart idea to try to use someone else ID as an argument especially when you yourself are only level 25. Not saying you're not allowed, but it's still not smart at least from the situation you described so far.
: NO I dont always have enough damage to win a trade farming is more important imo than just constant brainless fights engage support=guaranteed lost lane and feed for me even if i get first blood
That's a pretty weak source excuse you gave here, i was expecting something like "i'm playing late game adc like Vayne or Kod'maw" so i guess you do play early game adcs. It's not about what you wanna do, it's about what must be done to win the game. Learn to trade and force fights then, be prepared to engage yourself.
: I hate "engage" supports so much
It a bit depends on the champion you play If you're an early game champion you can't just farm you must be aggressive. And you're playing against a poke support, to survive that lane, engaging is even more important.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > People who genuinely want to know the truth will watch the whole video to know all the reasons league is dying so they will watch it all. The people that go around claiming "the game is dying" usually don't really want to know the truth. They want to know only what can confirm their view, and ignore everything else. --- > Those who will watch only part of the video already believe it's dying and it's just gonna be another proof for them to add to their internet fights and to look stupid when they will use it. Which already happens. People often use videos, or posts, that contain a huge amount of false information as evidence to support their claims. --- > In the first place, the creator of that video already does only all sorts of stupid nonsense videos, his subscribers already know that His subscribers are probably not the ones that will believe his video to be true, and not satire.
The way you say it, the only people who will get it wrong are the ones who already believe it. Why does it matter then? Because they will believe it slightly stronger than before? It doesn't really change anything.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > Did you watch the video? I did, and I perfectly get that it's satire. That doesn't change the fact that videos like this will be believed by many players that aren't able to understand the concept. I'm pretty sure some people will just watch the video up to the part where the random youtuber says "league is dying", and then think it's evidence to suggest that that's true. I doubt those that believe these satirical videos to be true will actually watch the entire thing.
People who genuinely want to know the truth will watch the whole video to know all the reasons league is dying so they will watch it all. Even the initial arguments that league is dying are said in a sarcastic way. Those who will watch only part of the video already believe it's dying and it's just gonna be another proof for them to add to their internet fights and to look stupid when they will use it. In the first place, the creator of that video already does only all sorts of stupid nonsense videos, his subscribers already know that, if you check the comments you will see that people there understand that it's a satire. Your fear of this satire is clouded by your hatred for "league is dying" video.
Smerk (EUW)
: well, I didn't watch the video, so I don't know what it is about really
I don't blame you, i don't have the time to watch stuff that gets posted here because i'm at work. I've seen this video before so i know it.
Hansiman (EUW)
: But OP seems to believe it, so perhaps the video doesn't convey the satire part well enough. Including a part at the end saying it's satire doesn't necessarily mean everyone will watch it to the end. There's enough web sites that presents satire as real news, and defend themselves by saying that if you read very closely, at a part on the page you'll hardly notice, they claim it's satire.
Did you watch the video? He suggests that the only way to fix the game is to remove all the champions except Gragas, A sol and Ashe then have A sol kidnap Ashe and Gragas attempt to save her. How can someone not get that it's a satire? I mean i do think people are usually on the lower end of IQ, but cmon.
Smerk (EUW)
: Well, the thing is that he should tell that at the beginning. Because frankly who would watch it till the end when he talks nonsense since the very beginning?
I don't think you're supposed to do that when doing a satire. It's similar to sarcasm, do you warn others before being sarcastic? You either get it and laugh at it or you take it seriously and look stupid for posting it as a real thing. And the video itself is pretty obvious that it's a satire. I mean the dude suggests that the only way to fix the game is to remove all the champions except Gragas, A sol and Ashe then have A sol kidnap Ashe and Gragas attempt to save her.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Febos,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Ic3vhZX3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-11T10:10:37.346+0000) > > Even if this is satire, **it's still doing a disservice to the community. People like the OP will take this as gospel and blindly believe it.**
If people believe it then you tell them they are being stupid because it's a satire. I get it, we have seen plenty of these stupid videos, where people keep talking about how league is dying, but cmon this isn't one of them, it's opposite, it's making fun of those videos.
Febos (EUW)
: The video starts by saying "League is objectively a bad game". That is factually wrong. You want a bad game? Look at ripoffs. Those are bad games. Calling League "a bad game" is like calling FIFA19 a bad game because I don't like football games. Then he goes on about why League as so many players and attributes that fact to League's skins. Again, factually wrong. I have yet to see/hear someone say "I play League because of the skins". Occam's Razor... Maybe the reason why League has so many players is as obvious as it seems: because it's a good game. You may or may not like the competitive experience, or playing with random people, but League, as a game, is in its core a good experience. What I'm saying is you could strip League of the multiplayer component - granted you give it something else (eg better PvE) - and it would still be a popular game (just a different audience). *** This dude doesn't know what he's talking about. He looks at twitch numbers and concludes "Fortnite is the most played game in the world". Hello? What about Korea, China, Vietnam, Europe, etc? Are we forgetting about the "rest of the world"? League isn't the most popular game in NA atm, but it sure as hell is the most popular game in many major regions. *** Two wrong arguments is enough to dismiss the entire video. His **opinion** is exactly that: an opinion. He can have it, but shouldn't spew it as fact. Even if this is satire, it's still doing a disservice to the community. People like the OP will take this as gospel and blindly believe it.
This video **IS** a satire. At the end, it's even written like and subscribe for more satire.
: What would you do if you had a superpower ?
I would like to have a superpower of not suffering negative effects of all those stupid challenges that offer millions of dollars for taking them. And then i could easily become millionaire consequence free. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: You know they roll out the changes to pbe first. There are a lot of cases when EVERYONE complains, but riot still push it into the main client. I dont remember any, because its been a while since i checked any pbe updates or watched utubers. Maybe it changed since, but knowing riot, it didnt.
I'm not too sure what you're trying to say here. I mean sure Riot fixes stuff that community complaints a lot, but i meant to say that some changes came from people simply asking for them. A lot of the changes tend to get announced first on gameplay thoughts first and get discussed there. For example, In a lot of the threads, Meddler keeps getting asked about Lissandra passive and a few weeks ago he mentioned that they finally decided on one and eventually it should hit PBE.
: Leblanc? 0 cast time Fizz? 0 cast time Zed? 0 cast time akali? 0 cast time Evelynn? 1 cast time but she is invisible so whenever it is fully charged she could be even behind you Nocturne? 0 cast time Shaco? I think just W but when he gets duskblade it doesn't matter that much Rengar? 0 cast time Talon? 0 cast time, he can do all of his combo in less than a second actually Kha'zix? 0 cast time Kassadin? 0 cast time 99% of the assassins have no cast time Katarina has 4/4 cast time spells, one CC can destroy her combo, unhealthy powerspike due to gunblade, free resets that don't feel rewarding. Also an assassin being predictable is against the nature of assassins, the should... assassinate people, LoL is the only game where assassins get treated with so much hate for no reasons at all just because they do her job, and I also blame the overbuffing of ignite, exhaust isn't picked anymore and it denies so hard assassins
It's not the cast time itself that's the issue, but how fast of a gap-closer it is. There's a pretty critical difference between Katarina shunpo and amost all of the gap-closers here. I called Katarina shunpo a dash, but that's wrong, it's a blink, there's no travel time, you press you are there. I wasn't too sure so i checked, but both Shaco and Kassadin do have cast time(or delay, whatever you wanna call it): Shaco: > [After a 0.125-second delay,](http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Shaco) Kassadin: > [Active: After a small delay, ](http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kassadin)
: They dont listen to players unless a HUGE part of the comunity complain, regardless in which medium. Be it redit or here, its only useful to post anything if you want to vent your feelings somehow.
They can listen without any huge complains from the community. If you post it in gameplay thoughts at the right time(withing few hours after it was posted), it gets noticed and seems reasonable it will happen. I think the upcoming Karma changes were simply asked for by one player and few upvoted it. Quinn kinda became a problem after she got some changes that were speciffically asked for. And these are only the ones i remember from the top of my head.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: Now the new question would be if it makes sense to post feedback outside the dev corner.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: I actually didn't know the dev corner yet, seems like a cool place. Well, their comments aren't highlighted there but especially in the patch notes posts they're quiet active and it often seems like if something goes trending on the subreddit Riot will definitly react to it.
I find it surprising how some people who visit boards don't know about it and then complain how Riot doesn't interact or listen to the community, i mean it's literally one of the subboards in our own EU boards.
: I think the actual Katarina is more BS she gets free resets for doing basically nothing, old Katarina if she did something wrong was pretty much dead
So this thread isn't as much about community Katarina hatred, but more about communities unwillingness for Katarina reverts. Yes, she does have infinite resets, but she's more predictable, more manageable. I also find the wish to have 0 or very low cast time on her shunpo unfair. League with champion reworks and overall in upcoming new champions is putting more delays in their kits and in this kind of world a 0 cast time dash is very broken.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: Does it really makes sense to use the Boards for feedback on the game ?
I'm i using the wrong subreddit? because i don't see them being active there. they are a lot more active on boards, specifically: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: Victorious Skin (?)
: I would like to know why "katarina" triggers so much hate on this forum
I actually don't think there's any hate towards current Katarina, at least it's surprisingly low. But there are a lot of Katarina players asking for Katarina revert, which people REALLY don't wanna because that was pure BS.
: Nami
Finally, it has happened, someone made a Thread about Nami being OP. My girl has come so far, i'm so proud of her. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: How Did I Get Out Of Bronze/Silver Into Gold In Only 25 Wins?
Spoiler alert, that method is 'be gud'.
Xeraphion (EUW)
: I agree she's a very strong pick if you can ahndle her. I've always walked into Nami players who would perform badly which...well made your comment on saying that she's THE strongest pick rn kinda look fishy :v
She's one of those champions that are fair to play against, so the only indication that they are strong tends to be their win rate. Her win rate gravitated around 52-54% for a long time now and she has a good pick rate to back it up(at least 8%). if you ignore other champions with >1% pick rate you can pretty safely say she is the strongest.
Xeraphion (EUW)
: but since when is Nami the strongest pick? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Around mid-season she already was among the strongest, but more nerfs came targeted towards enchanters, which didn't affect her and now we're here.
EPet (EUW)
: Hellow you lovely person there!
This weekend i played a bunch of games and won most of them, i felt a pretty strong improvement in my map awareness and slightly better positioning. Since games felt pretty easy i think at the moment i should be strong enough to get into D3, but maybe they were easy because previously i had a pretty long losing streak. I'm also slightly doubtful of myself because the champion i one-tricked for years is now the strongest support, so i'm i the rank that i am because i am that strong or because my champion is just that strong?
lelfgt1 (EUNE)
: Add a Balkan languages in league
You're asking here for quite a lot, not one language, but Balcan languag**ES**. Judging from what zedxlegend said it sounds like they are similar. Translating also means more voice-acting(and you want for all them despite being similar). And it comes down to whatever it's worth it or not and i don't think Balkan region or even big enough playerbase from there.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vMLzptus,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2018-10-06T09:47:19.691+0000) > > To be fair if all of those conditions go a bit too far champion becomes really hard to play, really hard to play means lot's of options and players who can master those champions become too strong, but i wouldn't necesssery call it bad design.(not too sure what to call it) Hey, you can't possibly deny that Akali is overloaded. don't get me wrong, i like her new passive and her shroud looks even cooler and even smoother than the old one. But there are a few things that shouldn't be in game.
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