Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Mmm8wUlo,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-21T02:14:59.137+0000) > > Shaco is the kind of champion that can be useless Shaco isn't useless. *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Mmm8wUlo,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-21T02:14:59.137+0000) > > dont you miss the times when the clone did dmd when exploded and you could make plays with that? now it just leaves some boxes that 90% of the time dont do anything If that's your argument, let me tell you it's a really weak one. Why? - Shaco's R still does damage when it explodes plus it has the mini JitB. The damage on explosion is the only thing in his kit to have ever received minimal changes. It was nerfed by 33.33% in patch 6.24, but that's about it as damage changes go. - We, Shaco players, don't use the Clone because of its explosion damage. The Clone is more useful than that. The explosion is a nice bonus for AP Shaco, but that's about it. Still, not even AP Shaco uses his Clone primarily for the damage. - For AD Shaco, the Clone is used as a 2nd source of DPS. It hurts, a lot. - For both AP and AD Shaco, the Clone is used to: bait/tank/dodge abilities (eg skill shots) and confuse the enemy. His R is the last thing we worry about. *** Anyway, onto the topic. Do we want pre-rework Shaco? Some of us do. Personally, I'd rather have the rework. AD Shaco is stronger than it has ever been. Not even up to debate. The other playstyles, in particular AP Shaco, are the only ones being shat on. The other playstyles have never been that popular either, but at least they were kinda viable (50% WR viable). Right now, not so much. I don't like to play Jungle Shaco, but I'm a Shaco main and usually play Support. Have plenty of fun with him, but AP Shaco is in a really bad spot. There are a few brave souls playing AP Shaco, but mostly it's all about AD/Lethality. *** The problem with Shaco is simple: he can't be nerfed. I'm not saying "Riot can't nerf him"; I'm saying "It doesn't matter if they nerf his damage". As long as they don't touch his Q and his ability to clear with JitB, AD Shaco will be around. ######I just want the rework. Papa Rito pls ;-;
Give shaco to an yasuo main and he will go 1/82/3(thats what i m saying with useless) :)) , i m an ex ap shaco main that now plays ad , i know ad he is a beast (if you can play him) and he is the most fun champion in the game ( maybe aurelion sol's boop noice can beat him ) i just miss the old shaco . Yea you can instakill someone with backstab but you cant make them punch a Wall when they get killed by an exploding clone or suprise someone with an 1.5k dmg ap two shiv , you cant even do ap dmg anymore , the two shiv does ad even if you build ap . But what i m saying is that no one plays shaco for being op , we play shaco cuz its %%%ing fun , i dont want rito to turn him in an unfun champion , We are talking of the og nerfed champion and not directly buffed , if someone played him for being op he would have quited a long time ago
: His rework wasn’t his final one... like akali and swain it was just to help deal with a few issues while the champion waits for a full VGU. So this version of shaco won’t be one you will have for too long but you won’t get the old one back as he was an issue... instead he will get a complete rework
i just hope they remove the boxes from the R and make it back to a bomb, like i want that champion to be at least annoyed by the clone dying not just dash away like rudolf
: Outdated Champs?
Dont wish they gona update them , maybe they will distroy them just like they did with shaco , i want the old shaco back
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: Honouring opponent
so you can get keys for inting? is a good ideea
: Ye and thatfor they should cut wolves and raptor exp by 1/2 gromp by 1/4 and scuttle by 1/3rd than you would actually have to use ur brain before randomly ganking all game
thats the spirit , so the lvl 6 jungler at min 10 can gank the lvl 13, 150stacks, 8/0 tank nasus
: Im no jungle main im a support main. So ye what you said is invalid. Im allready the bietch of the team so I have to be the most reliant on my Jungler and if he fails i cant change anything.
i said that you cant jungle that means you re not a jungler , place wards my brother , i allways honor the supp just place wards they are like a magic wand not to get killed by a jungler , and also get a little tanky so they will kill the adc and not you we are mean people and if we can instakill someone will do it until they rage quit no matter the gold they pay ( tip just say at random times when you dont know where the enemy jungler is that you can see him , he is gona get scared and maybe you get unganked like : " i can see you rengo , bad kitty"
: no person is capable of never being toxic. Never being punished, yes, never being toxic, no. Fact is, you don't get punished without consistant behaviour and if you lash out once in a long while, then you just fly under the radar
you can get raged and not be toxic , as a jungler ( that dude you blame after you feed 3 lanes and push the lane in when he is trying to gank) i can tell you its not hard not being toxic just erase the top lane with the 0/13 yasuo vs teemmo
: 10 years of League and not toxic
: In the begining you are not gonna become toxic, but after a while of understanding the game, i promise you. you will become more toxic then tyler1 was in his toxic prime. i was never this toxic but now i am thanks to you. **** XD
Antenora (EUW)
: Better Jungler wins isn't fun.
: Can we remove 60% of the Junglers impact on the game?
Our boy here is just upset that he cant jungle and a good jungle can snowball the game early
: They should just nerf jungle XP again so that you actually have to make a meaningful choice between farming and ganking.
No they should not , have you ever played jungle ? they allready nerfed the xp from camps and you can fall behind in a heart beat , you dont have towers in the jungle if you get invaded you re dead and you can just hope that you will be able to get your camps because half of the thing a jungler does is stealing the enemy jungle
: My experience this mounth on league of legends
Nope League doesent make you toxic , you re just weak and toxic and just needed a catalyst to let all that sweet toxicity flow
yas503 (EUW)
: Dead game??? ;'(
You dont make any sense , we allredy get matched up depending from the mmr (they were gaving me plat players sometimes but mostly gold at lvl 23-30)
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Can you guys make a separate que where people can be toxic and dont get banned for it? So you want a free pass to be toxic to other people? Interesting. Why do you feel the need to be toxic towards other people? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > The comunity loose members every day from toxic people. Says who? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > So why cant we just separate them? Because the "Prisoner Island" concept doesn't solve the problem, only amplifies it. Segrating people because they're toxic, and putting them in a worst environment, won't help them improve their behaviour. Why do you think "reformation centers" aka prisons, don't actually help inmates change their behaviour to the better? It takes a strong will to survive and improve in such environment. Coming back to the "Prisioner Island" thing. Riot wants to reform players. As such, those players **mustn't** be separated from the rest of the community. In fact, they need to be with "not toxic" people to have a chance at improving their behaviour. Then there're the other problems. Different queues for toxic people equals longer queues time for either or both those groups (toxic and non-toxic). We don't want to "punish" non-toxic people, by having longer queue times, thanks to multiple, unnecessary, queues. Plus, what is preventing toxic players from joining the "non-toxic" queue? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Also the salt is part of the charm , we need toxic people for the game to be funny Maybe I'm just ancient or old fashioned, but I don't see the appeal in toxicity. I can have fun without toxic people, so I don't need them in the first place. *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Also zed is just a Full ad Edgy Shaco (Change my mind) Zed is the type of guy that looks in you the eye and says: "omae mo shindeiru". Shaco is the type of guy th- \*shiv to the throat with hysterical laugh\* ######You don't even see him coming.
you should try jungle the amount of toxicity you get is on god level because people think that you can camp 3 lanes , clear your and enemy jungle , get dragons ,herald and baron while they feed non stop and flame you 24/7
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Can you guys make a separate que where people can be toxic and dont get banned for it? So you want a free pass to be toxic to other people? Interesting. Why do you feel the need to be toxic towards other people? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > The comunity loose members every day from toxic people. Says who? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > So why cant we just separate them? Because the "Prisoner Island" concept doesn't solve the problem, only amplifies it. Segrating people because they're toxic, and putting them in a worst environment, won't help them improve their behaviour. Why do you think "reformation centers" aka prisons, don't actually help inmates change their behaviour to the better? It takes a strong will to survive and improve in such environment. Coming back to the "Prisioner Island" thing. Riot wants to reform players. As such, those players **mustn't** be separated from the rest of the community. In fact, they need to be with "not toxic" people to have a chance at improving their behaviour. Then there're the other problems. Different queues for toxic people equals longer queues time for either or both those groups (toxic and non-toxic). We don't want to "punish" non-toxic people, by having longer queue times, thanks to multiple, unnecessary, queues. Plus, what is preventing toxic players from joining the "non-toxic" queue? *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Also the salt is part of the charm , we need toxic people for the game to be funny Maybe I'm just ancient or old fashioned, but I don't see the appeal in toxicity. I can have fun without toxic people, so I don't need them in the first place. *** > [{quoted}](name=FredFlintstonew,realm=EUNE,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=8Iq7VKyf,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-22T16:51:16.420+0000) > > Also zed is just a Full ad Edgy Shaco (Change my mind) Zed is the type of guy that looks in you the eye and says: "omae mo shindeiru". Shaco is the type of guy th- \*shiv to the throat with hysterical laugh\* ######You don't even see him coming.
I m not toxic (not now at least) The comunity is loosing people from the toxicity because people like me just stop playing League from them , toxic people just get banned and make a new account so nothing changes . Also rito can prevent toxic people just by closing theyr acces to the kind people que as punishment and i think people would rather stay an extra 10 seconds insted of getting trooled and flamed for 40min ( less in ranked games 25 min in my division) The comunity loves salt , the fost viewed streamer is tyler1 he was toxic af , even pinkword can get raged and that dude is cil af toxic people are just gona make more accounts they not gona be reformed , after 10 years you would think that people would have been nice by now I still think that zed is a edgy shady shaco with no jack boxes
: The idea to make the game less toxic is to get rid of the toxic people.
80% of the comunity is toxic , they cant just ban all of them because they will loose money , but the can separate them . So come with a better ideea you yasuo main
: The idea to make the game less toxic is to get rid of the toxic people.
you cant , its been 10 years of League , if they could do it they would have did it
Yraco (EUW)
: I kind of like the idea of filtering out toxic people having a separate queue would rely on a level of self-awareness from people that flame and, judging from the amount of "unfair ban" posts with toxic chat logs, it's just unlikely to work.
its about the right to choose , i m not a toxic player but i would play on a toxic que so if i get tilted( only if they have a team with shaco , heimi and teemo) i m not risking ban for dark humor jokes , a lot of people would rather play that so they can be themselfs . They can also up the bans for toxic people in the kind people que and stop them from playing in the kind que because rito is a Corporation and it needs money and that way they make money and we dont have to deal with toxic people
: New queue where you can be toxic
The people that are downvoting the post can come with ideas to make the game les toxic
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