: Didn't Kindred get buffed back to viable-almost meta pick since that video was made?
> [{quoted}](name=Spirit Crush,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=a7zgosqr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-07-14T09:20:08.564+0000) > > Didn't Kindred get buffed back to viable-almost meta pick since that video was made? They made it quite easier to secure the first marks so they fixed the scenario in which kindred would be completely useless for not having at least 3-4 stacks because of strong uncounterable countejungling. Her state was improved but not quite what we expected or asked for.
: 5-10 games of a champion is not enough to conclude that you can't play that champion anymore. This is just another clickbait title made by a Challenger Player who clearly hasn't grasped on what has Riot done with Kindred. If you want a better opinion on Kindred's current state you should ask people who has at least 40+ games with the champion like RedKind. Honest opinions are always welcome in the community but be sure you can back up your opinion with evidence other than "Oh I played this champion for 3 games and had Bad KDA with all of them=> this champion is unplayable". Also about Kindred' current state they are pretty good for now. They will be getting another buff soon to fix some numbers but they currently have a 51% Win rate. The reason why Kindred was changed in the 1st place was cuz of the counterplay being "oh if I deny her marks she is useless" because again 80% of Kindred's power relied on marks so they wanted to diverse their power evenly throughout the kit.
> [{quoted}](name=GJPickles2,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=a7zgosqr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-07-09T13:57:17.317+0000) > > 5-10 games of a champion is not enough to conclude that you can't play that champion anymore. This is just another clickbait title made by a Challenger Player who clearly hasn't grasped on what has Riot done with Kindred. If you want a better opinion on Kindred's current state you should ask people who has at least 40+ games with the champion like RedKind. Honest opinions are always welcome in the community but be sure you can back up your opinion with evidence other than "Oh I played this champion for 3 games and had Bad KDA with all of them=> this champion is unplayable". Also about Kindred' current state they are pretty good for now. They will be getting another buff soon to fix some numbers but they currently have a 51% Win rate. The reason why Kindred was changed in the 1st place was cuz of the counterplay being "oh if I deny her marks she is useless" because again 80% of Kindred's power relied on marks so they wanted to diverse their power evenly throughout the kit. This thread is now 4 months old and its quite weird you found it and took the time to reply haha. The thread was about the old nerfs. Right now i stopped playing kindred completely having 450k mastery points. It isn't the same champion anymore, its not enjoyable anymore. There is no "Goal" and "reward" anymore. The whole kit used to revolve arround her passive and its now gone. useless. No one asked for range or missing hp damage on the w. All we asked for was her w passive heal back, her armor back and a small movement speed buff since she had one of the lowest movement speeds in the game. Now its just a generic adc jungler. Nothing different. The q feels extremelly unsatisfying giving you the only attack speed you are allowed to have, w is still as useless as it always was, e feels exactly the same except you now also have to ks people to make use of it and ult still hasn't got its cast radius back. I guess its time to ditch my favourite champion which i played for over 350 games and move on. Honestly I can't main anything as I mained kindred again. edit: I could probably learn to play her and become as good again since shes at a better state now but this rework basicly threw my 450k mastery points of experience in the trash can. Thats a lot of practice, a lot of build tries which i have to do over again. But heh it could be worse, I could be a ryze main :P
God of Seas (EUNE)
: Ill just leave an IWDominate quote here from his stream: "How to get out of bronze? Have you tried turning your screen on? Have you tried to unlash the helmet? You know so more blood goes to the brain..". Thats my favourite quote from him.
> [{quoted}](name=God of Seas,realm=EUNE,application-id=WtAasNBw,discussion-id=ttgAnnEU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-25T10:52:38.260+0000) > > Ill just leave an IWDominate quote here from his stream: "How to get out of bronze? Have you tried turning your screen on? Have you tried to unlash the helmet? You know so more blood goes to the brain..". > Thats my favourite quote from him. Finaly found a piece of video its much more fun when he says it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXt6Nh8568
MCO3 (EUW)
: riot pls revert kindred ??? pls :c
Yeah the rework is terrible. Kindred was in a bad state and now its even worse.
: I'm going to become a hardcore ranked troll AMA
You are silver 4. You are already a troll
FT Y FLY (EUW)
: Any bronze players wanting to take the game more seriously and climb
Ill just leave an IWDominate quote here from his stream: "How to get out of bronze? Have you tried turning your screen on? Have you tried to unlash the helmet? You know so more blood goes to the brain..". Thats my favourite quote from him.
Pháté (EUW)
: Someone added me post game, entirely just to apologise for very minimal flame.
And here i am in platinum with people adding me every 5 days after a bad game to wish me cancer to me and my family one last time because in-game it wasnt enough. And their existence prooves the inneffectiveness of the report system.
: Gold/plat team looking for a coach(plat3+)
You can add me, my euw name is the same as my eune one. I'll start playing again in 3 days :). I'm only plat 3 currently, I was high plat 1 until i had to stop playing beause of exams.
Foxynerdy (EUW)
: Questionnaire from a Soraka player :3 (Plz fill in)
Your Rank: platinum 3 -Having Soraka Teammate- Never Depends on the matchup Coin Yes, knowing all cooldowns is fundamental in any champion Yes, i m more careful after it Depends on the matchup, locket generally last. -Having Soraka in Enemy team- Observe their play style and adapt No i play more carefully at that point in the game and solo less. Try to make her waste her peel on someone and then kill soraka. Never all in to try to burst her. Me for not being aware enough to realise soraka has ult. BM's dont tilt me. The only thing that tilts me is when i make mistakes like that one. In that case 10/10 for 5-10 secs until i respawn then chill.
Foxynerdy (EUW)
: Questionnaire from a Soraka player :3 (Plz fill in)
Your Rank: platinum 3 -Having Soraka Teammate- Never Depends on the matchup Coin Yes, knowing all cooldowns is fundamental in any champion Yes, i m more careful after it Depends on the matchup, locket generally last. -Having Soraka in Enemy team- Observe their play style and adapt No i play more carefully at that point in the game and solo less. Try to make her waste her peel on someone and then kill soraka. Never all in to try to burst her. Me for not being aware enough to realise soraka has ult. BM's dont tilt me. The only thing that tilts me is when i make mistakes like that one. In that case 10/10 for 5-10 secs until i respawn then chill.
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: Autofill statistics
I queue for jungle + support and get jungle 8/10 times in high plat. Got autofilled 2-3 times in 400 games ( adc and top )
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: Autofill statistics
I queue for jungle + support and get jungle 8/10 times in high plat. Got autofilled 2-3 times in 400 games ( adc and top )
: I need from high elo player like diamond or plat i am silver 5
There are a lot of coaching services on thr internet. They are 5/20 euros/hour.
C9 LynX (EUNE)
: Why does platinum players suck?
You aren't playing with platinums, they are platinum V 0lp with mid gold mmr. Im platinum I and im getting matched with diamond V's 0lp with plat 3 mmr all the time. So your whole point is invalid, they are gold and they are as bad(/good*) as you.
Magneset (EUW)
: I love how you call them noobs and yet you are unable to get there yourself. Shouldnt be too hard for you?
> [{quoted}](name=Magneset,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=IWqnHNQW,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-28T08:37:59.781+0000) > > I love how you call them noobs and yet you are unable to get there yourself. Shouldnt be too hard for you? His teammates hold him back, how unfortunate.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Tell me matchmaking doesn't force 50% winrate after reading this
: Was hoping for Shadowfire Kindred but alas, also no need to get Arcade Hecarim when i already have Elderwood
> [{quoted}](name=Ozzie Storm,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=AOAKtWiw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-19T22:11:25.083+0000) > > Was hoping for Shadowfire Kindred but alas, also no need to get Arcade Hecarim when i already have Elderwood I got shadowfire last year in my shop :D
Alex3995 (EUW)
: some are not based on yor most played but rather on championms that a simular to the once you already play to encurage you to try these. lulu for playing jana both supports focused on pretecting the adc. you cait for playing kindred both adc also its a champion that you play.
> [{quoted}](name=Alex3995,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=AOAKtWiw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-19T20:39:31.941+0000) > > some are not based on yor most played but rather on championms that a simular to the once you already play to encurage you to try these. lulu for playing jana both supports focused on pretecting the adc. you cait for playing kindred both adc also its a champion that you play. Thats a good explanation. Good of riot if its true it indeed encouraged me to play lulu.
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: Can u link me the page of the rework? I didnt find it anywhere
> [{quoted}](name=The Silent Lamb,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=lqLFjyA1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-17T12:37:27.631+0000) > > Can u link me the page of the rework? I didnt find it anywhere https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/nJbMhriw-upcoming-kindred-changes-looking-for-feedback
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: A WAY TO COMPLETELY IGNORE PINGS PLEASE
I thought these people dont exist but I actually got my first one in platinum 2 . He started flaming everyone in champ select for no reason and then in game after we mute him he pinged everyone every time his pings werent on cooldown. for 20 minutes. This is just too childish..
vasscool (EUNE)
: Who want to be gay with me
I'm looking for an attack helicopter as I myself identify as one. If there is any dont hesitate to tell me.
: why does adc and support, and the top swap lanes ?
-Whatever people already said + - In some matchups top might build a lot of mr so swaping with bot makes their mr useless. - After securing bot tower and dragon there is no point in having 2 people in bot lane since thats the only reason there are 2 in bot. Swaping with top gives additional rift herald control and top tower.
xKarasu (EUW)
: Buff Soraka
I have 64% win rate in soraka already. If they buff her its gonna be a slaughter.
Biuvoc (EUW)
: so you can play on it??
> [{quoted}](name=Biuvoc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5EEzEeQI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-05-07T18:36:32.449+0000) > > so you can play on it?? You can dream about it if you want, thats the best you can do right now. The sign ups have been closed for years and dont seem like they are going up anytime soon.
: Halp me to make my life more miserable
{{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:6}}
panfilhd (EUNE)
: is not hard to understand man but i told some times i lose 3 gamess with o LP and i stay the same lig
> [{quoted}](name=panfilhd,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=AwyYI2bj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-08T07:51:31.675+0000) > > is not hard to understand man but i told some times i lose 3 gamess with o LP and i stay the same lig Your mmr is lower than your division so you get demoted with only one game. If your mmr is higher you may need to lose 5 or even 10 games to get demoted.
: ignite or exsause on supports
exsause michael here.
: You can switch back to the old announcer if you wish ^_^ Under the settings during a game you should be able to change it in the same place you can switch summoner's rift music - I don't have a screenshot handy right now unfortunately but it should be in there!
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZmxEOTU6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-05T00:36:58.217+0000) > > You can switch back to the old announcer if you wish ^_^ > > Under the settings during a game you should be able to change it in the same place you can switch summoner's rift music - I don't have a screenshot handy right now unfortunately but it should be in there! Ok thanks. I was actually creeped when I suddently first heard it :)
  Rioter Comments
: Dark Star Kindred Skin Concept
Good luck with it then. I like the idea, the theme looks good and fitting. Other good ideas are blood moon kindred and the custom skins underworld and elderwood.
: Dark Star Kindred Skin Concept
Lets play a guessing game. Lee sin: 40% pick rate Kindred 1.83% pick rate. Who is rito goin to make more money of creating a new skin for? I'm pretty sure they wont even make their money back from a kindred skin. Sooooo. Forget about it, its not happening. You are getting an upvote from a kindred main but you also get my honest and realistic, reasoned opinion. ( statistics may vary * champion.gg* )
Byakurän (EUNE)
: How to rid myself of toxicity?
You need to accept the baptism
Røkas (EUW)
: "It's only your fault that you can't climb"
Once again like every other of the million times this is posted ill give my godlike answer of wisdom since no one has yet: *ahem* GIT GUD. Now that should help.
: Hah, I think I'm a bit too low rated to play with you mate! But why would you need champions that are strong in bronze/silver if you already got up to platinum? Most of the champions on the list are strong because people don't know how to deal with them in my elo (atm in B1, looking to climb back into silver). I'd expect champs like {{champion:32}} to get punished a lot harder in your elo then mine.
> [{quoted}](name=Legendsofthedark,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5EefuQKR,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-05-02T12:35:27.142+0000) > > Hah, I think I'm a bit too low rated to play with you mate! But why would you need champions that are strong in bronze/silver if you already got up to platinum? Most of the champions on the list are strong because people don't know how to deal with them in my elo (atm in B1, looking to climb back into silver). I'd expect champs like {{champion:32}} to get punished a lot harder in your elo then mine. Most of the champion i play in plat just dont work in bronze, they need too much synergy by the team. My main kindred for example doesnt even work in platinum. My friends tell me it works D2+ I've just heard that some champions work better in lower elo.
: Pretty much any champion can work wonders if you put in the proper time to learn them. In bronze, despite what people might say, splitpushing is probably not the best way to carry, as most people are not knowledgeable enough to understand how to to do it and they end up costing you the game. Your best bet in bronze are low skillcap champions with next to no complex mechanics that can go BOOM in a teamfight. You already found {{champion:19}} , who is arguably amazing in every elo at this very moment ({{champion:11}} is okay too, just be careful not to pick him in a comp with no CC, or you'll probably lose). In the jungle, people tend to shy away from {{champion:32}} , and i don't really know why. He is rarely punished for his weak early game in bronze, and he has everything you need for a bronze teamfight - good damage, tanky, massive CC ult, and an easy to read "GO" button for your team to engage. If you want more damage, or just AD, give {{champion:5}} a try. In the top lane, you'll probably find Juggernauts to be your best friends. Let's face it, 99% of bronze and silver players can't kite. They'll most likely stand still or run away without doing damage. {{champion:122}} is almost always permabanned, but if you have any experience on him, and you can get him, go for it. Others that are good are {{champion:420}} and {{champion:83}} (I'm not sure if I can recommend {{champion:75}} here too, as he has to sit in a side lane and farm for a long time before he becomes useful, and sometimes you need your toplane to come online sooner). If you're really into splitpushing, go with {{champion:114}} . There are very few champions that can deal with her in a 1v1 situation and she's probably the best for the job. Just please, since you're on EUNE and might end up in my games too, don't splitpush when there is no pressure on the rest of the map. That will only get five people to come and kill you without your team being able to get anything in return. I don't play mid, but {{champion:1}} is a safe bet if you want burst and engage. Otherwise I dunno, I don't play the role. I assume any long range artillery champ would be good (i.e. {{champion:101}} , {{champion:161}} , {{champion:99}} , etc.) I don't play ADC either, but {{champion:22}} comes with decent scaling damage and CC, and I play her if I ever get autofilled as ADC. For supports, you want a mix of strong damage and CC. {{champion:143}} and {{champion:90}} are some of the best here at that. I guess {{champion:1}} is too, but I like to auto-attack enemy champs a lot, and her range isn't what it used to be when she was a popular support. My pocket pick is {{champion:26}}. He too does very good damage, and if you can learn to predict where the enemy will try to dodge, you can land 99% of your bombs and be nearly impossible to deal with. All of these "AP-ish" supports can snowball your adc and yourself out of control. By snowballing, I mean your ADC gets most of the kills, you get most of the assists, and your adc has a relatively free lane to farm. That doesn't mean you get to go "Full AP" as some call it. Instead, you go for a supportive MagicPen build. So either {{item:2049}} + {{item:3092}} or {{item:2301}} and {{item:3020}}. For later items, {{item:3151}} {{item:3116}} and {{item:3135}} are good sources of damage that add a bit more to your tankiness as well. You can go with the standard support items such as {{item:3107}} , {{item:3190}} , {{item:3050}}, etc. but then you might as well go with tank or utility supports like {{champion:12}} or {{champion:16}}/{{champion:37}}. *********************************************************************************** All of these were off the top of my head, and I may have forgotten some. But with just these, you should have some idea on where to start.
> [{quoted}](name=Legendsofthedark,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5EefuQKR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-02T09:47:08.629+0000) > > Pretty much any champion can work wonders if you put in the proper time to learn them. In bronze, despite what people might say, splitpushing is probably not the best way to carry, as most people are not knowledgeable enough to understand how to to do it and they end up costing you the game. Your best bet in bronze are low skillcap champions with next to no complex mechanics that can go BOOM in a teamfight. > You already found {{champion:19}} , who is arguably amazing in every elo at this very moment ({{champion:11}} is okay too, just be careful not to pick him in a comp with no CC, or you'll probably lose). > > In the jungle, people tend to shy away from {{champion:32}} , and i don't really know why. He is rarely punished for his weak early game in bronze, and he has everything you need for a bronze teamfight - good damage, tanky, massive CC ult, and an easy to read "GO" button for your team to engage. If you want more damage, or just AD, give {{champion:5}} a try. > > In the top lane, you'll probably find Juggernauts to be your best friends. Let's face it, 99% of bronze and silver players can't kite. They'll most likely stand still or run away without doing damage. {{champion:122}} is almost always permabanned, but if you have any experience on him, and you can get him, go for it. Others that are good are {{champion:420}} and {{champion:83}} (I'm not sure if I can recommend {{champion:75}} here too, as he has to sit in a side lane and farm for a long time before he becomes useful, and sometimes you need your toplane to come online sooner). > If you're really into splitpushing, go with {{champion:114}} . There are very few champions that can deal with her in a 1v1 situation and she's probably the best for the job. Just please, since you're on EUNE and might end up in my games too, don't splitpush when there is no pressure on the rest of the map. That will only get five people to come and kill you without your team being able to get anything in return. > > I don't play mid, but {{champion:1}} is a safe bet if you want burst and engage. Otherwise I dunno, I don't play the role. I assume any long range artillery champ would be good (i.e. {{champion:101}} , {{champion:161}} , {{champion:99}} , etc.) > > I don't play ADC either, but {{champion:22}} comes with decent scaling damage and CC, and I play her if I ever get autofilled as ADC. > > For supports, you want a mix of strong damage and CC. {{champion:143}} and {{champion:90}} are some of the best here at that. I guess {{champion:1}} is too, but I like to auto-attack enemy champs a lot, and her range isn't what it used to be when she was a popular support. My pocket pick is {{champion:26}}. He too does very good damage, and if you can learn to predict where the enemy will try to dodge, you can land 99% of your bombs and be nearly impossible to deal with. > > All of these "AP-ish" supports can snowball your adc and yourself out of control. By snowballing, I mean your ADC gets most of the kills, you get most of the assists, and your adc has a relatively free lane to farm. That doesn't mean you get to go "Full AP" as some call it. Instead, you go for a supportive MagicPen build. So either {{item:2049}} + {{item:3092}} or {{item:2301}} and {{item:3020}}. For later items, {{item:3151}} {{item:3116}} and {{item:3135}} are good sources of damage that add a bit more to your tankiness as well. You can go with the standard support items such as {{item:3107}} , {{item:3190}} , {{item:3050}}, etc. but then you might as well go with tank or utility supports like {{champion:12}} or {{champion:16}}/{{champion:37}}. > > *********************************************************************************** > All of these were off the top of my head, and I may have forgotten some. But with just these, you should have some idea on where to start. Thanks for the tips, dont worry about seeing me in your games i am far ahead from bronze so i know how to splitpush properly. If you want you can add me and we can play, I would like some reasonable people like you ( you seem to be by the way you typed ). Right now afk is my biggest problem so I'm trying to find something that can 4v5. You are right about warwick: https://postimg.org/image/o9zn4x9jz/
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: I'm new to LoL
Welcome to the game! You can add me and i can give you some tips my euw name is "god of seas". Im platinum 5 in eune currently.
Røkas (EUW)
: Smurfs
No one said it yet? Git gud.
: Are we teamed-up based on MMR or Rank?
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: Jungle adc like Kindred or Twitch just sht on him, people just didn't realise it yet
> [{quoted}](name=Urgot x BDSM,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FsvieiJ6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-04-14T11:13:35.128+0000) > > Jungle adc like Kindred or Twitch just sht on him, people just didn't realise it yet Kindred main here i havent won a single game vs ivern, he counters marked camps harder than any other jungler.
Dotje (EUW)
: How are there so many toxic people on the PBE
Dont worry just give the account to me and the toxic people wont bug you no more. For real tho i want a pbe account and the site for registrating pbe is closed since always. Rito pls :(
Darkpang (EUW)
: "if u are good u will climb " line use by many forum user
No more words. If you are good you will climb. Git gud, there is no other way.
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Lonely Ekko (EUNE)
: Thanks Riot for Buffing Kindred
Kindred is still bad. Very. That comes from a 400k kindred ( and from IWDominate,challenger jungler ) You will either stomp or be completely useless. And thats why im not going level 7.. i would be ashamed to have level 7 and be useless.
: DEMOTIONS A particularly bad losing streak may result in dropping a tier or division, though there’s no set number of games that may trigger a demotion. Losing enough games at 0 LP can drop you into the next-highest division. If you’re in division V, it’s possible you’ll even drop a tier. After a demotion, your LP will be set to 25 or 75, depending on how many losses you had at 0 LP. After being promoted into a new division or tier, you’ll gain the effects of a demotion ‘shield,’ which prevents you from dropping. This is to keep you from winning a series, losing a few games and then immediately dropping back to where you were. The shield lasts for 3 games after advancing a division, and 10 games after advancing a tier (3 games for Master tier). The information written above was taken from [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/204010760-Ranked-Play-FAQ) :D {{summoner:31}}
> [{quoted}](name=Papone s Quinn,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=ZUt8Y4hF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-20T19:23:23.489+0000) > > DEMOTIONS > A particularly bad losing streak may result in dropping a tier or division, though there’s no set number of games that may trigger a demotion. Losing enough games at 0 LP can drop you into the next-highest division. If you’re in division V, it’s possible you’ll even drop a tier. After a demotion, your LP will be set to 25 or 75, depending on how many losses you had at 0 LP. > > After being promoted into a new division or tier, you’ll gain the effects of a demotion ‘shield,’ which prevents you from dropping. This is to keep you from winning a series, losing a few games and then immediately dropping back to where you were. The shield lasts for 3 games after advancing a division, and 10 games after advancing a tier (3 games for Master tier). > > The information written above was taken from [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/204010760-Ranked-Play-FAQ) :D {{summoner:31}} Riot: "We want to make people think that mmr is only affected by wins and defeats but there is no set number of games that can trigger a demotion because we lie to you. Our mmr system actually looks at other personal stats too but we dont want to let people know in fear of abuse."
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