: it was,search it.
I did research it. There is no confirmation of them being sisters. Riot are not denying it but at the same time they aren't accepting it as being true either. And by the way. Don't say "its confirmed"(that's basically what you said. Just with different words) and not giving us the source, that would have given you a straight F in class. IF you were still in school. Oh and, just because they share the same splash art doesn't make them related. All we REALLY know about it is that they were part of the same Zaun gang. But Vi left that gang in her lore to do justice(alongside Caitlyn).
: her sister is vi bro.she was once ekko's gf.
I don't think that was ever confirmed by Riot. We don't know for sure if they are sisters as I said, it was never confirmed.
Rioter Comments
Dreadara (EUW)
: I lost lp cuz of bug. Ty for making it more clear ;)
You are most welcome :) Now, if you'll excuse me. There is a cup of tea with my name on it.
: Bot of Legends
I've played a few bot games on EUW and EUNE and I've yet to run into any bot accounts. Maybe I'm just lucky. Further testing is advised.
: The client has nothing to do with the ingame. When you get ingame its either a bug of the game or something on your side. The new client is basicly just a new waygate to get into the game.
He is talking about champion select. He couldn't click on the champion he wanted to pick and lock in because the new client is horribly optimized and has insane issues that, quite frankly. Should have been tested before being launched. But, as I said. he is talking about champ-select. Not in-game.
Rioter Comments
: Custom games dont count. Practice tool doesnt count. And coop vs ai may not count as well, not sure bout that one though.
Maybe I should have mentioned. It was a match on summoner's rift. It wasn't practice tool, not co-op or custom games either. A match made game vs 5 other players on summoner's rift.
Rioter Comments
XechoX (EUNE)
: draven doesnt need crits to deal dmg. he has a q that makes his basic attacks deal 150 at 3 minutes and insted of being a specific number of basic attacks, draven can keep it going for as much as he wants spending no mana for each hit but the first one. Just needing to counter pick a draven to lose early game and just have a bigger chance that others to win late is very frustrating and needs nerf
Then the same thing can be said for Vayne lategame. With Vayne, you can't even see her attack you before you die thanks to her combat stealth. Also, remember that Draven needs to catch the axes to refresh the buff(Why you complain about this now and not when Draven was released I have no idea). When he goes for the axe is your time to strike. He needs AS and AD to be effective. Without the AS you can jump on him after he has thrown the first axe, and no. His W does not substitute as a good AS source.
: look that its unique thats fine and i do understand . but it doesnt change the fact that 1 hit take's a shit ton of health away . even though hes made like that its still insaine dmg bruff. look at the resent yasuo nerfes the kit made yasuo but they do think its too much dmg for its mobility based nature and since its hard to nerf perfectly . bit by bit they are toning him down. so my opinion'' is that toning draven down just by a tollerate able state while still bursty
One hit take a buttload of health away, with items yes. I play Draven, his Q does nearly nothing unless you have the AD to back it up. And with the recent changes to him. He does even less damage at level 1 with Q than he did before. People have done the math. You need more AD to deal damage with him, but the more AD you get. The more reward you get from your spinning axes. Which was the whole point of the change. Also, remember that his passive is essentially useless unless you stack it up and get a kill. Draven's Q is a pretty strong ability, I'll give it that. But remember that he has no passive to back it up unlike say: Caitlyn, Vayne, Every other adc ever. Also, mind you his passive becomes useless once he gets 6 items whilst other adc's still have theirs. And with the change made to his ultimate to make the axes disappear when he dies makes his ultimate less useful as a burst tool. He has to have power somewhere in his kit. His Q is that power.
Eratos (EUW)
: wtf lel.You got banned and need to apology or something or you looking for atention???
No I didn't get banned. I just wanted to apologize. And since I can't open my league client because its corrupted(A Riot employee has seen my problem and verified it) I figured this was the best way to get your attention. So, sorry for what I said. I didn't mean it to come off as condescending and rude.
: I was there too. Everyone can be salty sometimes. I think he will accept your apologies
I hope so too, as I didn't mean to come off as mean or so. I just didn't want any trouble understanding him. If he attempted to say anything or so I wouldn't want to misunderstand him or come off as stupid by asking what he means. Either way he would probably still get angry with me. But I've already tried to apologize to him and make the effort to not have him be angry at least.
: False. He called me "dumb" after I asked him to: > First of all, if you are going to respond. I'm going to have to ask you to use proper English. Mostly because it allows me to both read AND understand what you are saying without too much hassle. Also because its you know, polite. :) Its polite to you know, let others understand what you mean. And then he said > ... youre just dumb and dont want to understand. Its literally there, in text. I asked him to be polite and use as much proper grammar as he is capable off. I even gave my personal reasoning as to why I wanted him to use proper grammar. There's nothing wrong with that. I can admit It MAY have come off as a bit too harsh than intended. For that I can apologize. But I did not start it. And I didn't for the love of god use his grammar as my main argument. Please read the text again. The majority of my post is me telling them Draven isn't op and WHY he isn't op. Less than a 1/4th of of my comment is me talking about his grammar. And not having English isn't an excuse for being poor at it. English isn't my primary language either but I don't use that as an excuse. You are only as good as you want to be. If he uses broken English then he most likely doesn't want to improve it fast enough to be good at communicating. And yes, I want you to believe me being the better person. Because I know I am. have you seen him apologize yet? I sure haven't. I will apologize to him personally when he does the same. In fact. I'm going to send him a message right now apologizing to prove I'm the better person, and because. I didn't mean to come off as condescending and mean. Edit: It became a public apology instead. Which is better.
And I'm pretty sure people aren't trying their best. Some people here are literally rage typing because they are angry at something(this case, Draven) being op. From what Eratos typed, in the way he typed it sounded like he was angry. And I wasn't trying to show them that their best isn't good enough. Why do you insist on refusing to listen. I've apologized to Eratos for my comment. I've continued to explain to you that it wasn't intentional and I keep saying that it wasn't meant as an attack(or flame, whichever you prefer) against him. I went back to my original comment and changed it to sound more nice. What else do you want?
Eratos (EUW)
: You need friends.Im kind so i can accept you.
https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/9aLeIehz-public-apology
Sceizer (EUW)
: maybe it would have been better to say sorry in the comments of that post because he might not see this
Don't worry about that. I made sure to point him towards this thread.
: False. He called me "dumb" after I asked him to: > First of all, if you are going to respond. I'm going to have to ask you to use proper English. Mostly because it allows me to both read AND understand what you are saying without too much hassle. Also because its you know, polite. :) Its polite to you know, let others understand what you mean. And then he said > ... youre just dumb and dont want to understand. Its literally there, in text. I asked him to be polite and use as much proper grammar as he is capable off. I even gave my personal reasoning as to why I wanted him to use proper grammar. There's nothing wrong with that. I can admit It MAY have come off as a bit too harsh than intended. For that I can apologize. But I did not start it. And I didn't for the love of god use his grammar as my main argument. Please read the text again. The majority of my post is me telling them Draven isn't op and WHY he isn't op. Less than a 1/4th of of my comment is me talking about his grammar. And not having English isn't an excuse for being poor at it. English isn't my primary language either but I don't use that as an excuse. You are only as good as you want to be. If he uses broken English then he most likely doesn't want to improve it fast enough to be good at communicating. And yes, I want you to believe me being the better person. Because I know I am. have you seen him apologize yet? I sure haven't. I will apologize to him personally when he does the same. In fact. I'm going to send him a message right now apologizing to prove I'm the better person, and because. I didn't mean to come off as condescending and mean. Edit: It became a public apology instead. Which is better.
I have already apologized to Eratos for my comment coming off as more mean than intentional. I didn't insult his grammar on purpose by asking him to use proper English for crying out loud. I didn't want to have any misunderstandings between us, me wanting to understand him better is supposed to be a nice gesture though I can admit my comment came off more mean than nice which wasn't my intention. And you are wrong. I didn't point it out to feel better about myself. I pointed it out so we could have a good discussion without it sounding like monkeys smashing their fists on the keyboard for best result. If I wanted to feel better about myself pointing it out then why do I not feel better? Because it wasn't my intention to make myself feel good about myself. And, I didn't flame him, I did NOT insult him. I didn't make any personal attacks against him, I didn't verbally attack his family. I didn't tell him to kill himself. I didn't call him stupid. I didn't call him mentally challenged. I asked him SOMEWHAT politely to use proper grammar so there wouldn't be any POTENTIAL misunderstandings in which he responded by firing at me. His bullet? The word "dumb". I picked up his bullet, fired it back in his general direction BUT NOT RIGHT AT HIM. I took what he shot against me and gave it back, not any harder or worse than he did. As I said. My "handshake" about his grammar came off more violently than intended(the intention wasn't to make it violent at all) but what does a somewhat failed handshake warrant a bullet to my brain? So I'd appreciate it if you would be so kindly and stop the false accusations.
Sceizer (EUW)
: mind telling the context behind this?
Shortly put. There is a thread about Draven being op. I wrote a post on that thread saying he isn't op and talked about potential ways to counter him. Eratos came in and began to reply in broken English saying Draven is broken op. I(not as respectfully as I wanted it to be, in fact. It may have come of as being mean'ish though that wasn't the intention) politely asked him to use proper English, or at least as much proper English as he knew so there would not be any misunderstandings between us. He insulted me by calling me stupid and I responded back. A third guy came in telling me "I shot first", insulting Eratos for his broken English which was false. He may have seen me asking Eratos to use proper English as an insult thought that wasn't my intention. We went back and forth with me telling the 3rd person I didn't start it. He refuses to accept it so I decided to make a public apology to Eratos to make sure he knows there are no hard feelings between us. though a short "sorry" from Eratos would be nice too.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Draven wont get useless just because you lower his q dmg by 5% =_= you could nerf him harder and he would stil be viable just not broken anymore(twitch needs nerfs also but he isnt broken due to him being better at stuff its because he excells in the meta)
Uhm? I know he won't be useless. I wasn't the one who suggested the idea that we nerf his Q damage by "5%".
: False. He called me "dumb" after I asked him to: > First of all, if you are going to respond. I'm going to have to ask you to use proper English. Mostly because it allows me to both read AND understand what you are saying without too much hassle. Also because its you know, polite. :) Its polite to you know, let others understand what you mean. And then he said > ... youre just dumb and dont want to understand. Its literally there, in text. I asked him to be polite and use as much proper grammar as he is capable off. I even gave my personal reasoning as to why I wanted him to use proper grammar. There's nothing wrong with that. I can admit It MAY have come off as a bit too harsh than intended. For that I can apologize. But I did not start it. And I didn't for the love of god use his grammar as my main argument. Please read the text again. The majority of my post is me telling them Draven isn't op and WHY he isn't op. Less than a 1/4th of of my comment is me talking about his grammar. And not having English isn't an excuse for being poor at it. English isn't my primary language either but I don't use that as an excuse. You are only as good as you want to be. If he uses broken English then he most likely doesn't want to improve it fast enough to be good at communicating. And yes, I want you to believe me being the better person. Because I know I am. have you seen him apologize yet? I sure haven't. I will apologize to him personally when he does the same. In fact. I'm going to send him a message right now apologizing to prove I'm the better person, and because. I didn't mean to come off as condescending and mean. Edit: It became a public apology instead. Which is better.
You are missing the thing entirely. Me asking him to use proper grammar isn't the same thing as making fun of it. I did fire back at him by making fun of his grammar yes but that was after he called me dumb. Let me tell you one more time for good measure. Asking him to use as much proper language as he can so I can have an easier time understanding him isn't making fun of him. It is understandable that he may have issues learning English for a lot of reasons that "... Are your own" as I told him. What part of me asking him somewhat politely to use proper English so I can understand him better don't you understand? Its not that I can't understand him, I just wanted to make sure he spelled correctly so there wouldn't be any misunderstandings between us as simple spelling errors can make it so. I repeat. I CAN understand him, I just wanted make sure there wasn't any misunderstandings. But I suppose you haven't heard yet? The English language is rather... Known for being hard to understand properly if used wrong. You can try to convince yourself all you want that I fired first but I'm not Han Solo. I didn't shoot first. He did. You have a point though. Why should I bother convincing you that I'm better? As long as I know it myself that's good enough. Brought a good point to my eyes there. Appreciate the gesture. And no, I'm not trying to look smug, not intentionally anyways. But people see what they want to see now do they?
Rioter Comments
Strigina (EUNE)
: He called you dumb **after** you were pointing out his grammar mistakes, not before. It was not him, who started insulting you first, you started it. And no, you were not asking nicely, you were asking in kinda humilitating way making fun of him. Not using insulting words doesn't make it nice. What you did is way worse than him calling you dumb because you used his grammar as your main argument. And now you want me to believe you are the better person here? Nice try.
False. He called me "dumb" after I asked him to: > First of all, if you are going to respond. I'm going to have to ask you to use proper English. Mostly because it allows me to both read AND understand what you are saying without too much hassle. Also because its you know, polite. :) Its polite to you know, let others understand what you mean. And then he said > ... youre just dumb and dont want to understand. Its literally there, in text. I asked him to be polite and use as much proper grammar as he is capable off. I even gave my personal reasoning as to why I wanted him to use proper grammar. There's nothing wrong with that. I can admit It MAY have come off as a bit too harsh than intended. For that I can apologize. But I did not start it. And I didn't for the love of god use his grammar as my main argument. Please read the text again. The majority of my post is me telling them Draven isn't op and WHY he isn't op. Less than a 1/4th of of my comment is me talking about his grammar. And not having English isn't an excuse for being poor at it. English isn't my primary language either but I don't use that as an excuse. You are only as good as you want to be. If he uses broken English then he most likely doesn't want to improve it fast enough to be good at communicating. And yes, I want you to believe me being the better person. Because I know I am. have you seen him apologize yet? I sure haven't. I will apologize to him personally when he does the same. In fact. I'm going to send him a message right now apologizing to prove I'm the better person, and because. I didn't mean to come off as condescending and mean. Edit: It became a public apology instead. Which is better.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Adc main here Draven atm has the second highest winrate with a pretty good playrate in plat and above atm(54%+ winrate) He doesnt need 3 items to reliably crit at 1 1/2 he crits every 2 1/2 hits at 2 every 2 hits at 3 he hits 4/5 times and that is on top of his q dmg, yes his axes are telegraphed but that doesnt really matter with propwr mechanics and positioning because you can conteol where they fall so that they cant cc you easily draven is far stronger than before Vaynes r q has no counterplay?maybe aoe dmg/cc or pointclick cc ? Or just %%%%ING HER bully earlyl game? Draven vs vayne with even support skill results in Draven>>>Vayne Vayne is designed to be extremely powerful late late game and good mid game but atm draven doesnt let her have both in the sense of destroying her mid with early stomping and finishing before late To win vs draven you need to play a super safe lane( i love sona jinx for example) and ask for jungle help til then farm safely meaning he forces you to 3v2 him(which was a nerf reason for several champs already) Draven in late has 2 problems, lack of range and axe catching his dmg output on squishys with 2 axes still exceeds basically everyones even that of most hypercarries(his dps is worse tho) meaning if a draven gets in jinx range before she hits him (usually that shouldnt happen) then he wins the duel he also wont get 1 hit killed ever especially due to deathsdance He is not fine atm with 54+ % winrate and 11%+ playrate
In all honesty though. You shouldn't use items to define a champion being overpowered or not. If Draven won't get 1HKO with the help of DD then just buy DD yourself and poof, you won't get instakilled by Draven either. What works one way can work the other way too. You say that Draven's Q is telegraphed(which it is) and he can control where the axes land(which is true). But you contradict yourself saying: > Vaynes r q has no counterplay?maybe aoe dmg/cc or pointclick cc Draven has the exact same counterplay with his Q markers. With one exception between the two. You can't see Vayne once she R-Q's. "Use AOE, AOE CC abilities". Same goes for Draven, except that you KNOW where Draven is going to go because his next step is telegraphed by his axes. Need I remind you that Draven was designed to be a early game champion. Vayne was designed to be unstoppable late game. Same goes for Draven but Draven is early game instead. If you lose to Draven early that's because you didn't play the situation right. You can WIN and LOSE every situation(in a sense).
Strigina (EUNE)
: This is what he wrote: >no you defend him cuz is your main..but that guy early is op his dmg is insane and his lifesteal with its huge...he needs nerf dont defend it just because you main it.He gets ban too most of the time and thats because is really powerfull right now. And then you started mocking his english. Where exactly is he insulting you first? What you wrote just made you looking like a huge A-hole who has to point out someone's grammar because there is nothing better to argue with. Not everyone learns languages easily and not everyone even had english in school (I know people who were learning german or russian instead). And it isn't even that hard to understand him. No need to act like this.
> [{quoted}](name=Eratos,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Q8ojobKP,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-18T16:14:30.951+0000) > > draven is broken..its a reason why he does 1000 dmg neither fed and he gets ban all tiem..english not my main** youre just dumb and dont want to understand.** > JUst being polite. > Yasuo is fine not draven still yasuo nerfed sure.. > PPl ban draven cuz of his mustache right man???? Is what he wrote. Calling me dumb is the same as saying I am stupid. First of all, I asked him nicely to try and speak properly so that I would not have any issues understanding him, because I, ME AS IN ME. HAILEY HAYATO, have issues understanding people who speak in broken English. So I asked him nicely to try and speak proper English so that I would not have any problem understanding him. NOTE: I can understand him somewhat. It just makes it harder for my brain to read his broken English. And no, I don't have dyslexia. And he goes to call me stupid/dumb because I just wanted to understand him and his point of view better. So I shot back at him, he calling me stupid is worse than me saying his English is broken. Besides, I did argue AGAINST him by stating WHY Draven isn't overpowered. He shot first, I fired a warning shot back. I didn't aim AT him. He however, took a direct shot towards me. I intentionally missed my bullet. He missed because I was and still is, the better person. Now then, was there anything else you would like for me to counter right back at you or are you out of cards?
: so if not nerfed lets rework Q . since yes i 2 think he's to strong right now but i also think that cait is still to strong even after hurricane nerf's
Draven won't get a rework on his abilities because he is one of the FEW most UNIQUE marksmen there is in League. He is hard to play and even harder to master. Also, his Q has counterplay, a good portion of it actually, when his Q bounces, a marker on the ground literally tells both teams that Draven's axe will land there. Either he goes for the axe, giving you time to CC and kill him. Or he lets it go and loses a major part of his DPS. What is so hard to understand about that? Vayne has her R-Q alongside her W. Caitlyn has her headshot mechanic. Ezreal has his long ranged poke. Jhin has his fourth bullet and Q + R. Jinx is a hyper carry alongside Vayne and Tristana. Varus has incredible poke with his Arrows and the potential to lock down a lot of enemies with ult. Ashe has her Q-R and the fact that all her basic attacks are empowered after the 2nd shot against an enemy. Every adc has something which makes them unique. Draven has his Q.
: Thank him for speaking in English you unthankfull person. Also, Draven IS very overpowered. He needs a little nerf (yea downvote everyone now, like you always do and never show up). I mean maybe remove 5 or 8 base damage
I do not think I will thank him for speaking in broken English while insulting me. JUST speaking English albeit broken is okay and I can thank him for at least attempting to speak English. But Insulting me in the process warrants no respect. If he wants me to respect him maybe he shouldn't have insulted me first. I don't judge people based on how they look or what they like/dislike etc. I judge people based on their actions and in a way, their words too. Why should I thank someone who is inherently being a male genitalia to me? Also, Draven is fine as he is. You probably won't see it now judging by your comment but: **His Q. Riot games can't nerf it without making him useless. Same goes the other way, Riot can't buff it without making him broken. Draven is NOTHING without his Q. And as I said: Those markers literally scream: "I'm gonna run here, CC me please". If you don't use your CC and midlane burster/assassin to kill him(because they should, its their job to take out high priority targets) then that's your personal problem, not the champion being op. And, if those three items make Draven so broken, remember that he needs to BUY them first. Without those 3, he is "useless" more or less according to you. So deny him farm. He needs AD for his Q to be effective, use a poke support like Zyra/brand or another support that can ALL in and CC him like Leona. The answers are right in front of you. ALSO, need I remind you that your entire strategy has one entire flaw? If Draven buys those and becomes immune to AD's. Play an AD yourself and get those items too and there, now you can't kill each other without your team. Problem solved.** This is another comment of mine. Where I literally state some of the counters that Draven has. Draven. Is. Fine. And 5-8 base damage won't change anything. It would do next to nothing. Another thing you don't realize is that Draven has a VERY high skill cap. High skill high reward type of champion. And I saw another comment saying Draven is more forgiving with CDR to refresh axes. He still uses mana, duh. And without Essence Reaver he has to B or wait for his mana to regen, meaning he can't spam. Another funny thing I've noticed is that you people CLAIM Draven is OP. But you NEVER NEVER argue as to WHY he is. You just simply say "Draven is op". How about you actually give me some arguments instead of just saying he is op. I myself have given multiple ways to fight Draven, and how do I know how to fight him? Because I play and main him. if you would just take your pride down a notch and LISTEN for once you'd understand. I know Draven's weaknesses because he is my main. I know HOW to play AS and play AGAINST him. So why are you people so against me giving you tips on how to counter him? Its like you don't want help beating him yet insist he is op. Stop being such hypocrites.
: You are insulting him for not knowing english as good as you.You realiaze not all people speak english well?So,why dont you flame faker for not being a god at english?
I do realize not everyone speaks English yes, or even perfect English for that matter.. But this is the internet, you are literally what exactly? Two, maybe three clicks away from checking if you spelled something right or not. There are even spellchecking for browsers like google chrome and internet explorer, Firefox etc. So why not take advantage of that spellcheck and learn something that will really help you in the future? Also, mind you. He insulted me first and his insult was a lot harsher than mine. Calling me stupid(Might as well say "%%%%%%ed" because that's what he meant to go for) vs me saying his spelling is bad. Which one is the worse? And why would I flame Faker? He isn't actively participating in this thread so that point is essentially moot since I'm not in a conversation nor have I ever been in a conversation with Faker. So, as I said. Point is moot.
Eratos (EUW)
: You need friends.Im kind so i can accept you.
I'd rather have few true friends than a lot of fake one's like you. So thank you but no thank you.
Eratos (EUW)
: draven is broken..its a reason why he does 1000 dmg neither fed and he gets ban all tiem..english not my main youre just dumb and dont want to understand. JUst being polite. Yasuo is fine not draven still yasuo nerfed sure.. PPl ban draven cuz of his mustache right man????
Okay, so? First of all. English isn't my primary language either, that doesn't excuse me to be poor at it. You probably just never wanted to learn it properly for whatever reason is your own I guess. And no, I'm not stupid. If I can't read what you are writing because you write poorly, that's not on me. That's your fault. And, just to annoy you even further. I can understand you perfectly. I just like to mess with people :D Next. I have already given you several arguments as to why he isn't overpowered. Now you give me at least an equal amount as to why you think he is "op". And I have a hunch you can't. something isn't OP because its banned a lot of because it does a lot of damage. If you think so then sorry man but your definition of "OP" is so flawed it makes flawed rocks seem smooth. You can't even tell me WHY he does "1000 dmg". And you are probably not building to counter it either. If he does a lot of PHYSICAL damage, then get Ninja Tabi's. If Draven still does a lot of damage, and you are AD yourself. Buy the same items he does and kill him. Problem solved.
: Are you %%%%ing stupid or what XD. FINE AS IS? Draven wasnt fine since he was released. Only difference now is that you dont even have to be good anymore. Rush DD tabis and PD and GG no AD can touch you. You literally beat half of the champ roster because you bought 3 items. Draven would be "fine" if PD and DD didnt give you dmg reduction.
No. As a matter of fact I'm not stupid. First of all. If I get a temporary suspension from the forum for "negativity" amongst my comments then surely you should get one too as you go on to insult me which is a form of negativity. Now, on to the matter at hand. You literally yourself tell us how to beat Draven. "... GG no AD can touch you". Maybe no ATTACK DAMAGE champion can touch you but Remember that you can still counter Draven with AP based bursters or AP assassins. Everything has a counter, and that counter doesn't have to be just CC. Also, Draven suffers from a huge problem with his entire kit. His Q. Riot games can't nerf it without making him useless. Same goes the other way, Riot can't buff it without making him broken. Draven is NOTHING without his Q. And as I said: Those markers literally scream: "I'm gonna run here, CC me please". If you don't use your CC and midlane burster/assassin to kill him(because they should, its their job to take out high priority targets) then that's your personal problem, not the champion being op. And, if those three items make Draven so broken, remember that he needs to BUY them first. Without those 3, he is "useless" more or less according to you. So deny him farm. He needs AD for his Q to be effective, use a poke support like Zyra/brand or another support that can ALL in and CC him like Leona. The answers are right in front of you. ALSO, need I remind you that your entire strategy has one entire flaw? If Draven buys those and becomes immune to AD's. Play an AD yourself and get those items too and there, now you can't kill each other without your team. Problem solved.
Eratos (EUW)
: no you defend him cuz is your main..but that guy early is op his dmg is insane and his lifesteal with {{item:3812}} its huge...he needs nerf dont defend it just because you main it.He gets ban too most of the time and thats because is really powerfull right now.
First of all. I'm going to have to ask you to use as much proper English as possible. Mostly because it allows me to both read AND understand what you are saying without too much hassle and to make sure there aren't any misunderstandings between us. Also because its you know, polite to make sure others can read and understand what you are saying. :) {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} And no. I'm not defending Draven because he is my main. I tell you he is fine because he IS fine. You are now like how i was. Thinking something was "too strong" by looking at it. You need to analyse all the angles. Draven's main damage comes from his Q. Use champions with disabled or knockback/Knockup's to prevent his damage. And need I tell you that Draven's main and only DPS comes from his Q? You nerf his Q he becomes useless. Right now, Riot has put Draven into the "immortal" position. Meaning they can't touch him without making him broken op or useless. And, there are ways to counter Draven. If Draven buys {{item:3812}} then counter it with {{item:3123}} Everything has counterplay in the game, some form or another. You just don't want to see that because you WANT to be right.
: Well, anyone needs items to be relevant. I don't think it's worth mentioning it. My whole point is Draven has a much easier time delivering insane DPS compared to those he/she mentioned.
Yeah, especially since Draven doesn't need IE, Statikk, PD or any other crit item or runes to crit for 1K every AA right :D? I mean his Q is the most broken Ability in the game, giving him 100% free crit every time he throws a spinning axe. That's so op right? /End Sarcasm
Eratos (EUW)
: DRAVEN broken as hell
Level 7 Draven main here. He is fine as he is. Doing a crit with Draven you need at least 3 items to ensure that the next basic attack is going to crit. Besides, you KNOW where his axes are falling. Those markers literally scream: "I'm gonna run here, CC me please" Draven is a bit stronger now than previously but remember that Vayne's R-Q for example has no real counterplay aside from a lucky hit from a CC ability. Draven is strong early game, you wanna kick his A$$ so badly, get a lategame hypercarry like Vayne or Jinx, survive to lategame with the help of your team and then 1 hit KO draven at every point. He is fine as he is.
shileka (EUW)
: shoutout to the support team
Shoutout to the support team because I love them <3
: I did acually say so :P
Oh yeah? Well, then I'm blind. My apologies :p
: Acually you can only have one of the three icons with a horse thing in the corner. You cant buy it with a horse :)
Uhm okay? Why didn't you just say so, they look virtually the same in my eyes.(Maybe cause I'm practically blind xD)
: I have perfect acencion as well, but i dont feel like it is that rare
Perfect Ascension is very rare. Not a lot of people got it because it was so hard. As for your current Icon. Well, it was buyable during the Lunar revel when those icons were first released. I have all 3. But. You wanna talk rare Icon? The season 2 championship Icon is pretty damn rare :p (which I have, on my alternate account. On EU West. Which isn't even level 30 yet after what. 4 years hahahah xD) and Santa baron icon is pretty rare too. Then there was those 5 icons you could get if you bought RP during the harrowing(Spelled right?) from season 3 I believe?
Rioter Comments
ClaudiuMB (EUNE)
: there is not a rule to play more champs. thats why one trick ponies exist. you can ban their champ but they cant stop you do that. this is not fair
if they choose to be a 1-trick pony then that's their fault. Not ours. They literally go into game with the mindset of a spoiled brat which only adds to their toxicity when they think they can get what they want. What about everyone else then? If 1-trick's can get their champion every time then what about me? Shouldn't I be allowed to get what I want? No. Plain and simple. The world doesn't work like this. Its not fair and it will never BE fair. Its not hard to understand. 1-trick's are also one of the most toxic type of players I have EVER encountered. Now, please tell me more how 1-trick's deserve special treatment and I don't.
ClaudiuMB (EUNE)
: The problem is not banning a specific champion. there are more than 10 champions actually more broken than yasuo in every single moment of this game that cant fit on the 10 bans. You cant rely on the fact that they wont pick a specific champion you THINK is broken because they can pick any of the other broken champions. The purpose is to not let anyone tell you what to play or not play. Any champion can actually be broken in the hands of a good player. I am 90% sure that the player that gets his champion banned by his teammate is tilted and have a bad time, troll, int, swear, dodge etc.
But you can't go into ranked with the mindset that you will get your desired role and champion and not let your teammates ban whoever they want. That's the primary thing. If a yasuo main for EXAMPLE goes into ranked and have yasuo banned. Its not our fault that he tilts, swears, troll, dodge etc. That's his problem that he wasn't ready for the fact that he MAY NOT get what he wants. Surprise there, we all can't get what we want. Its just the way it is. Going into Ranked with the expectations that Everything will go as you want it is just asking to have things not go your way. Take me as a good example: I main ADC and I primarily play Draven in that role because he is my main. Will I go do any of the above things because Draven is picked/Banned? No, because I have more than just Draven to play. I own every single ADC in the game, but aside from Draven I play Jhin, Jinx, Caitlyn and sometimes Vayne. So I have at least 3 different adc's with unique playstyles available to me. So even IF Draven gets picked/banned I have other champions to rely on. And I won't get tilted in the slightest because my teammates ban Draven either. I'll just pick any other of my Carries and carry my team hard so they know what I'm capable of. And this is the main issue you come forth with. You can't always get your way, even in champion select there will be people with little to no mercy for what you wants, so no. The problem isn't a specific champion, its that one specific champion that you personally(applying to every player ever) want to play but may or may not be banned. Besides, everyone knows that you should only go into ranked when you have at least what, 3(bare minimum is 2) champions for each role in case you autofill or switch with another player.
ClaudiuMB (EUNE)
: Banning a declared champion
I feel like this is very two sided. On one hand, I should be able to ban which champion I want because that's how the system works. On another hand, you shouldn't ban a champion that a teammate selected BECAUSE your teammate select said champion. Out of the two above. We should be allowed freedom to ban whatever champions we want without being restricted, because this also allows us to snipe the enemy picks. Remember that there is a chance that the enemy can lock in your favorite champ that you wanted to play before you get to pick. So, 1/3 chance you get trolled by your teammates. 1/3 chance you get trolled by the enemy team who snipes your pick by banning/picking it themselves. 1/3 chance you actually get your champion but then there are another 2 things that can happen here. 1/2: You win lane and most likely carry. 2/2: You LOSE lane and cause tilt amongst the team because they "told you we should have banned X champ cause no one can play him/is op" etc etc. As my final note: I would rather be allowed to ban whatever champion I want so that the enemy can't snipe it from my teammates. And this has happened MULTIPLE times, especially with Yasuo. "Declares Yasuo" "We don't ban yasuo" "enemy team picks yasuo". We lose because our supposed Yasuo who didn't get yasuo is now tilted AF and can't play properly, becoming a crutch for the enemy team. A liability for us.
ClaudiuMB (EUNE)
: Banning a declared champion
I feel like this is very two sided. On one hand, I should be able to ban which champion I want because that's how the system works. On another hand, you shouldn't ban a champion that a teammate selected BECAUSE your teammate select said champion. Out of the two above. We should be allowed freedom to ban whatever champions we want without being restricted, because this also allows us to snipe the enemy picks. Remember that there is a chance that the enemy can lock in your favorite champ that you wanted to play before you get to pick. So, 1/3 chance you get trolled by your teammates. 1/3 chance you get trolled by the enemy team who snipes your pick by banning/picking it themselves. 1/3 chance you actually get your champion but then there are another 2 things that can happen here. 1/2: You win lane and most likely carry. 2/2: You LOSE lane and cause tilt amongst the team because they "told you we should have banned X champ cause no one can play him/is op" etc etc. As my final note: I would rather be allowed to ban whatever champion I want so that the enemy can't snipe it from my teammates. And this has happened MULTIPLE times, especially with Yasuo. "Declares Yasuo" "We don't ban yasuo" "enemy team picks yasuo". We lose because our supposed Yasuo who didn't get yasuo is now tilted AF and can't play properly, becoming a crutch for the enemy team. A liability for us.
: Weirdest/funniest names you have seen ingame(doesn't have to be LoL)
I never met this one personally but one guy on the steam platform goes by the name "The Horse strangler" which I thought was pretty funny. The name, that is. Actually strangling horses in no laughing matter.
: >Say infinity edge on yasuo for example That would make no sense. As much as I despise him, Yasuo's intended to build IE as he's designed to be a melee ADC of sorts.
Alright, then how about every other AS+Crit item there is, such as Phantom dancer, statikk shiv and the likes. If he gets to keep IE for the reason you stated above then the other crit items are off limits. Yasuo gets either 1 or the other. He can't be allowed to have both.
Antenora (EUW)
: Suggestion: Make Death's Dance Melee only.
If they make DD melee only then Riot has to prevent certain items being bought on certain champions/Classes as well as such items made certain champions broken.(Say infinity edge on yasuo for example)
Rioter Comments
: >Naming a bot is bannable from boards? ~~Of course, the bots have rights too!~~ --- Welp, I guess a moderator was a little too quick there :P I hope you can understand why this mistake happened, since 99,9% of videos with a title like that contain N&S... You kinda baited us ^^ Can you give me the name of the account? I'll undelete it :)
In all fairness, this is why humans need to slow down and relax. Whomever this moderator was should go and drink some tea and relax for a bit. Pulling a fast one like this is rather, unprofessional. Don't you agree? :P
: Return the old Katarina please :) ?????
Honestly, I've played the new-old version and the newest rework. Her rework made her a bit harder to play yes but her mobility went through the room, as well as her damage. Old katarina was rather simple to play. The new one is harder but the payoff is more damage. I also don't think Riot is going to withdraw the rework because the rework was successful in their eyes.
: Which one? None mana champions's ults.
The most balanced one is probably Rek'Sai for the same reason "I Abuse ADCs" said. Most unbalanced one would be Yasuo's because knock-ups have little to no counter. You get knocked up and yasuo ults there is nothing you can do really because knock-ups are not affected by tenacity nor can it be cleansed in any way(though it SHOULD).
C9 LynX (EUNE)
: yeah well, he wouldnt mind a little nerf tho, I personally think some tanks should be nerfed, and that the amumu buff was kind of overkill tho, but ye ur right
I agree with the Tanks, they do deal a bit too much damage for their tankiness. Personally I haven't seen amumu since his buff because well. Not many people play him.
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