: > [{quoted}](name=revengingangel,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NalsPKPq,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-02-13T15:46:43.807+0000) > > Here's a better question. What made you suddenly so afraid of her? I was playing almost exclusively tristana for the last 2 seasons while I was learning the game and she was never this popular and the only thing that changed in her kit was a buff on her Q to increase it to 7 seconds from 5. > > Nobody thought she was a threat back then with almost exactly the same kit. She still gets deleted in seconds. Unless you happen to have your ult, W jump and flash all off cooldown then you'll still get destroyed by that Rengar, WW or Udyr if you over extend. Your R buys you a few seconds or so, nothing more. You'll still get eliminated by a Z under the turret. She's not got great damage or range early game so is incredibly easy to zone away from the farm -- which she needs to be any kind of threat late game. thing is that the game is now focussed around mobility and Trist is the perfect example on how to abuse that. W jump on relatively low cd and with CD reset, long attack range and increasing, and if someone even manages to get to u press R and blast them away. now its basicly impossible to kill a Trist in lane if she only has a little bit skill cause shes just to safe. as adc and support if u see opponent pick Trist u can basicly sit afk at your tower and just farm for 20 min cause nothing u do will get her in trouble in the laning phase.
Even then you will lose, because she outscales you unless you're Twitch or something... you have to punish her somehow because she's too strong after 2-3 items
: Here's a better question. What made you suddenly so afraid of her? I was playing almost exclusively tristana for the last 2 seasons while I was learning the game and she was never this popular and the only thing that changed in her kit was a buff on her Q to increase it to 7 seconds from 5. Nobody thought she was a threat back then with almost exactly the same kit. She still gets deleted in seconds. Unless you happen to have your ult, W jump and flash all off cooldown then you'll still get destroyed by that Rengar, WW or Udyr if you over extend. Your R buys you a few seconds or so, nothing more. You'll still get eliminated by a Z under the turret. She's not got great damage or range early game so is incredibly easy to zone away from the farm -- which she needs to be any kind of threat late game.
It's simple... she didn't have Press the Attack the past seasons... which is what makes her early game incredibly powerful... she can force the other ADC back in mere seconds... not to mention she can delete the enemy ADC with a simple BF sword if she gets her combo through with a tiny bit of CC from the supp... and that is supposed to be the WEAK part of her game... Also, I didn't say I am afraid of her now... I'm just saying her kit is not the kit a hyper carry should have... when a hyper carry is alone, it shouldn't be able to escape Rengar WW or Udyr no matter if he has flash or not... that's the point... she escapes too easy for a champ that can delete whole teams in seconds... Now tell me, who is the hardest to delete by a Zed, Twitch, Kog Maw, Jinx, Vayne or Tristana? Tristana BY FAR... I'm not pissed with the champion in itself... I'm just saying that compared to the other hyper carries she is too easy to dominate with because she is super safe as a pick while the others die very easy and can be taken advantage of... she is the safest along with Ezreal, but Ezreal is the furthest thing from a hyper carry as an ADC... A champ so forgiving with so many defensive mechanisms should not be a hyper carry but a middle of the pack ADC in terms of dmg... it would make more sense... it makes no sense that tristana with all this mobility does 3 times the dmg Ashe does while Ashe is so slow and can be deleted by almost any champ easily... isn't it unfair? (btw. I haven't seen an Ashe in ranked in MONTHS... this is how useless she is now...)
House x33 (EUW)
: So you call a champion OP which you played 3 times out of 93 games? XD and than you only have 33% win rate
I'm sorry but does anything out of her kit that I explained wrong? Does she not have HUGE mobility with the 3 million resets on her W? Does she not have very safe laning and very convenient disengage against assassins with her ult? Did I explain her kit wrong? I don't think so... now if you have some opinion based on facts, then please tell it to me... if not, then try to find one... PS. When I get 27 kills in a game that all my team is losing and I get 2 quadra kills on a team that are all fed while my team does nothing and I lose the game, the game went bad for my team... I dominated... and I'm not even good with her... the second loss was a 4v5 without a jungler who AFK after dying once... and I still got 3 kills while being ganked and chased by 3-4 members of the enemy team all game long and my farm was decent and better than the enemy adc even if I was being chased because her range is so convenient and easy to farm with... and again... I'm not a good tristana... I've played her like 10 times in my life... I shouldn't be dominating games with brainless jumps in for super easy kills
: tbh I just ban Tristana because i know most people who go bot now can only play her so most time i would pick jhin and go 20/5 myself pretty consistently. Tristana is 100% broke same with twitch personally, scales of atk speed better then kogmaw they go like 1 AD item and still completely out dmg a 700AD 80% Crit Jhin xd
Well, the problem is, Kog Maw is super easy to kill... he's so slow that he's CCed almost effortlessly... a good Kog Maw needs a very skilled ADC player behind him... Tristana has so much mobility and disengage tools that she's a hyper carry that is almost ungankable... I don't mind huge dmg hyper carries... but the thing is Tristana is broken... no champ with so much sustained dmg can have so much mobility and disengage tools... twitch has his stealth that makes him ridiculously easy to position for a ult penta kill... but at least if you have a good supp he can CC him quickly... tristana can avoid anything and delete all your team
Shukr4n (EUW)
: so i should care about someone who lack obviously skill to counterplay? tristana is a hyper carry, do u know what does it means? that late game tristana can shred everything. which means early mid game is about tristana farm and efficiency. how many tristana op thread are on forum monthly? maybe just this. and look, it s not a high rank player who clearly knows every mechanic of the game to point the discussion. it s the bottom. where supports cannot support, where adc cannot farm and position. where top , jungle and mid instalock without thinking about counterpicking or help teammates in game. u lost as tristana your last game"how come", how is it even possible???? that must be a glitch in the game for you to NOT winning as tristana, 3/5/1 100 cs in 15 minuts. i appreciate the objective effort
it's simple, it's not something weird... all hyper carries are slow and easy to catch and CC to destroy them... tristana IS NOT... all hyper carries are weak early with little dmg in lane (Twitch, Vayne, even jinx who can do annoyingly huge dmg has less than Tristana's bomb combo with Press the Attack)... every champ should be vulnerable at some point of the game... Tristana is too safe and she is not vulnerable at any point... As a jungler would you gank a tristana lane? probably not unless you're collapsing with multiple members or she's pushed so far that her W alone can't save her... it's about the same as ganking Ezreal... but Ezreal doens't even come close to tristana's dmg... Ezreal is a safe pick... but he should be because in late game dmg potential he loses almost to all other ADCs... Tristana instantly deletes even tanks with full build... Anyway... stats don't say all the truth because it's a TEAM GAME, not 1v1... winning TEAM games doesn't come down ONLY to your solo performance... there is counter picking, there is bad games that someone may have on your team, there is AFK issues, there are tons of things that may happen in a game... What does matter is the kit of the champ... and tristana's kit is VERY overloaded with both super offensive skills and super useful defensive disengage options... and no other hyper carry has so much convenience in her kit...
Shukr4n (EUW)
: so i should care about someone who lack obviously skill to counterplay? tristana is a hyper carry, do u know what does it means? that late game tristana can shred everything. which means early mid game is about tristana farm and efficiency. how many tristana op thread are on forum monthly? maybe just this. and look, it s not a high rank player who clearly knows every mechanic of the game to point the discussion. it s the bottom. where supports cannot support, where adc cannot farm and position. where top , jungle and mid instalock without thinking about counterpicking or help teammates in game. u lost as tristana your last game"how come", how is it even possible???? that must be a glitch in the game for you to NOT winning as tristana, 3/5/1 100 cs in 15 minuts. i appreciate the objective effort
So tristana doesn't have OP mobility for a hyper carry eh???? no... she's slow and immobile... she's super weak early eh? NO SHE"S NOT.... the last game I was playing 4v5 with no jg... you're just trying to find excuses... and you show stats because they are convenient...
Shukr4n (EUW)
: op.gg champion ranking 1 Draven ADC 52.85% 2.37% 2 Varus ADC 51.41% 29.39% 3 Miss Fortune ADC, Support 51.03% 2.92% 4 Ezreal ADC 50.90% 42.82% 5 Twitch ADC, Jungle 50.88% 4.65% 6 Xayah ADC 50.59% 16.53% 7 Vayne ADC 50.43% 20.47% 8 Jinx ADC 50.22% 4.99% 9 Kalista ADC 50.17% 10.03% 10 Tristana ADC 49.94% 13.12%
Oh wow... great... the all time classic OP.gg wisdom... I'm sorry but I don't care about the stats... these change every single week... in the beginning of the season she was at the top and nothing has changed in her kit... so enough with the stats... Draven is first and everyone complains about how bad he is... not to mention that people see pro players and copies them... now they don't take Press the Attack on Tristana just becuse pros don't take it... why??? it's god damn broken... it's so easy to get the bonus with it... So, I don't care about stats... it's way too safe and easy to snowball with Tristana without even trying to be good...
Antenora (EUW)
: Tristana's issue is she is too safe and too strong in the early - mid game considering she is meant to be a Late game Hypercarry. Tristana doesn't really have a weak stage of the game. She either needs to be weak and exploitable early like Vayne and scale up to the late game fantasy she seeks or strong lane bully that drops off late game. Being strong early mid and late game is unhealthy. Tristana cannot be punished for pushing/overextending in lane due to her W. Jungler ganking your lane? jk she presses W? If they were to nerf Tristana they would either need to hit her W or her passive.
exactly my point... not to mention that she snowballs like a monster... jumping in, deleting someone and either jumping in for more or jumping out safely... she has more mobility than half the assassins and she's a monster hyper carry adc... way too safe and easy... I mean Ezreal is super safe too... but come on... he doesn't get kills whenever he pleases when he gets fed... you have to work for them....
Shukr4n (EUW)
: siver 5 gameplay...
yeah... you're "pro"... so why does everyone lose to tristana in ALL ELO... even in pro play she's too safe and easy to hypercarry... so your comment about my Elo is just stupid... gj high Elo "pro"...
Rioter Comments
: You know that reverting a nerf is equal to a buff? Why revert a nerf when he is still the 3rd strongest ADC on the current patch?
Because honestly, he's only good if you end the game quickly... So, if you don't get an early lead it's a lost game with Ezreal... also, he's had this amount of damage (before the Q nerf) since forever, why is now so different? Because he starts with more dmg from inspiration tree and Sorcery? Well, the others want more AS from Precision.. so it's a matter of what you need more on your champ... when Ezreal mains had that same AD through the old runes why his dmg in lane wasn't that bad? Honestly, I think he got nerfed more because they got scared by his potential with the pre-nerf klepto than his Q actually needing a nerf... I mean on that matter, why isn't anyone talking about how ridiculous is the dmg of hyper carries in late game and all we care about is early? I mean look at champs like Tristana who is dominating all phases of the game, Twitch who is an instant penta-kill in after 4 items... why is Ezreal's lane phase so toxic with the damage he's had since forever? And everyone agreed since the initiation of new runes that what made Ezreal OP was KLEPTO, NOT HIS Q DMG... then klepto got nerfed, we all knew it would be... why do a nerf on a champ that NO ONE ever said it was needed? PS. Winrate is only a number... it can change at any point even if you don't change anything in any ADC... it's not the holy grail of reasoning... for example Darius has almost 53% winrate and they plan a buff... any thoughts on that one?
sirDarts (EUW)
: Yeah, also pretty much removes the usefulness of Iceborn, so you can build more damage. :)
yeah, very true... cause that slow from Iceborn is so useful and you had to build it against teams of assassins... but then your damage was so little that the enemy ADC outscaled you every single time... now you can have trinity without fear... very important if you've played enough games with Ezreal (or any ADC) to know how annoying it is to be chased by 2-3 assassins every game... lol
: http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Ezreal Looks like most pros are still playing with Klepto witz some Footwork and the Spellbookshards. As a support main I always have the feeling that Klepto is still strong on my own and the enemies adcs. Especially in LG you get a ton of different buffs while a team fight. (If I remember correctly mostly the EG was hit in the last nerf) I think it mainly feels bad, because it's weaker than before - but before it was clearly stronger than many other runes. My favorite rune on tanks (aftershock) was also nerfed into the ground and is only a shadow of his former self... But I can understand why they did it.^^ There were just some runes which out performed all the other runes.
Well, right now I think Glacial Augment is the best choice for Ezreal... cause to be honest the slow from Qs helps a lot in lane both to tilt enemies and to make ganks super easy... also, it helps in late game to hit squishy carries and help your teammates to get to them easily... I think psychology makes a big difference though, so I think the main reason you get Glacial is because when you slow someone again and again and again with a champ that isn't supposed to do that you are getting on his nerves so much that he will eventually make a mistake or just throw the game... I've played tons of games with Klepto and I feel it's not worth it anymore... because the buffs in late are not that big... even if you get bloodlust you get like 15AD... not that much on Ezreal... the free CC from Glacial is much stronger... Fleet Footwork is good on it's own...but Ezreal really needs the dmg early and precision gives him Attack speed instead and his Qs become too weak in lane... plus it's better to slow your enemy by 40-60% than to get a movement speed by 30%... anyway, that's what I think but thanks a lot for the reply... it sucks when you have to change your build on your main because you just keep trying new things and it takes so long to find the one that is really the best...
: they have to make champions like this that r broken, riot starts to aim more and more towards kids and casual players. making hard champs to master like Lee or Zed won't make that new playerbase happy. now we got a champ like Zoe why not bring old GP back with 3k+ parrrley, and oh wait, also old nida with the 1 HKO spears. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Look, Zed may be hard to master for Diamond level play, but he's also very "noob friendly"... I've played Zed even though I never liked him (because you need to play that crap if you want to learn how to try to avoid his one shot) and it's not hard to get ahead even if you're not good... Sure, it's hard to make the "perfect play" but Zed doesn't necessarily need that... one wrong step by your opponent and he's history even if you're not the best Zed player... now if you're good, Zed becomes so obnoxious that he deletes you every 30-50 seconds... so no, when I think of a balanced hard to play champ I don't think of Zed... On Lee I agree completely... he's HAAAAARD to play good, much harder than Zed in my opinion since you move around with wards and not just by pressing skills and if you're really good it's super fun and very rewarding (things I wouldn't know since I suck so bad with him even though I played him a lot to learn.. lol) Anyway, if you want a balanced champ that is fun and rewarding to play, I would say my main Ezreal (his dmg isn't obnoxious, you make super fun plays, you need to learn his skills and how to use them really well to proc Trinity etc, you need to start good or you fall behind and it's gg), Riven for sure (Super hard to play good with all the combos and animation cancels), Kennen when he's AD (I love AD Kennen... super strong but you have to be good... I love bullying Darius mains with him... lol), Gnar is super fun and you have to be good too you get the point... I think you're right, just think tht Zed is not a good example since he's very easy to spam even in low-average Elo... otherwise we wouldn't see him all the time... Lee is spammed too but 90% of them really suck...
Flippy34 (EUNE)
: I like playing vs zoe. If you don't overfeed her in first 15 - 20 minutes you won. If you have proper vision and some high mobility champ against her she will lose. In late you can instakill her before she can jump back with her R becasue she is super squishy. Again in League are more problematic champs that need fix like Vlad or WW.
Nah, if you want problematic try the all time classic... YASUO... and I'm not even talking about his mid and late game anymore... I'm talking about his EARLY game that is supposed to be WEAK... *you can laugh at this point*... His early game both with Press the Attack (that extra dmg he needs) or Glacial Augment (Free CC that a champ like this shoulnd't have) is super easy and broken... because he gets that extra something he needs to dominate from them and get to his obnoxious mid and late game with almost zero risk... especially with Glacial Augment, you can do almost nothing against him... because if you push the lane to get a CS advantage over him, it's a free gank with the slow and if you don't push he just farms like a monster and gets his first item... then it's gg because you know... "Yasuo"... so his only weakness has completely vanished... That's what I think at least...
: She was made by the same person who designed Yasuo. Remember how often gets Yasuo "balancing" so Yasuo players who actually know what they are doing and not just trying to mimic a play from a montage they just seen, won't be invincible? Now look at Zoe. Made by the same guy, designed to be either completely useless or broken overpowered. There is no escape man.... whatever that guy puts out will be the bane of our existence and they bring so much profit for Riot with their mass appeal that they won't nerf them into oblivion like the rest of the failed designs, because "the godlike LCS people has the oiled teamwork to put her behind and INHUMAN REACTIONS to outplay them sidestepping Zoe Qs from the fog of war left and right EFFORTLESSLY" can outplay them... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Yep... when a game is designed around pros (meaning inhuman monsters that avoid insane stuff) then it becomes toxic for us normal people that play as our everyday fun... but what can you do? The company has been moving in the pro play direction for many years... what we get is the all time classic "git gud" from some obnoxious kid that has one shotted us for the 50th time in the same game from fog of war... At least Zoe is hard to play good... so at least us in low-average Elo don't get many good Zoe players... so we're safe from that at least... while Yasuo is super easy to spam, super broken if you're just a little bit good with him and now with the new runes, even his EARLY GAME is super strong (both Press the Attack and Glacial Augment are SUPER BROKEN on him) Anyway, that's what I think at least cause I bought Zoe and played her a bit... she's hard to play good with her but super rewarding if you do... I mean I suck having played only a few games but I still one shot a few people in every game...
: I still like her more than {{champion:157}}, because at one point Yasuo will simply be happy to dash in your face, vortex you at pointblack and ult you, with some good crits in the mixture for good measure, while {{champion:142}} still got to play from the distance and NEVER want to have the whole enemy team to gang upon her. So for {{champion:157}} what it's supposed to be a drawback (hitting you with vortex) simply disappear in mid-late game, while {{champion:142}} still does not want to melee you, and if she tries to have more chances to land her stuff, she will put herself in danger.
The problem with Yasuo isn't his mid late game... but his EARLY game... he's supposed to be weak early, but Press the Attack makes his early game super obnoxious... not to mention Glacial Augment(that procs with his Q too) that makes yasuo unbeatable if he gets ONE early kill... he has way too many tools to be super strong in early game... and a champ that does to broken dmg late, that is too much...
Shukr4n (EUW)
: so just make aoe vs minion?
you can't do that... how would that work? if you stand near minions everything would get damaged except you? it's still a video game... doesn't work like this... it's either AoE or not AoE...
: Late game she legit has a 1k-2k+ damage spell on a 3.5 sec cooldown. Compare that to lux or LB or any other mage and it's pretty apparent that this is not supposed to exit like that.
Well, think about a good lux combo in a teamfight though... it's 3-4k easy on it's own (and one shotting a couple of people at the same time...) I get what you mean, but still Zoe may be super strong but Lux for example is both super strong and super easy to be good with... Lux is pretty much free kills after level 6... first time you hit a Q someone dies... then you wait for ult CD... hit another Q, another kill... again ult CD and so on for the rest of the game... not to mention the snipe ults from 3000 miles away on people that thought "thank god I survived" and then see the light and facepalm...
sirDarts (EUW)
: Dunno I would probably go into Comet over electrocute, Ez, especially early game is more about poke and not about burst. But the Glacial also sounds interesting as Franklin said.
Man, I just played a game with Glacial... twitch was getting tilteeeeeeeeeeeed... lol... slow after slow... and you force them out of position with the slows all the time... ganks become cheezy easy... it rocks... not to mention in late teamfights you hit the enemy ADC once and everyone jumps him because of the slow... It's super strong if you hit your Qs constantly and the other player is stupid enough to never stay behind minions in lane... XD
: He is still strong. He dropped from first place ADC down to 6th place and is now back at 3rd place according to op.gg champion stats with the highest pickrate of all ADCs. And his ban rate dropped hard after the nerfs, so it's probably even better as before as you are a bit weaker but also less likely to get banned from your main. But why should they buff the 3rd best ADC? Just because you dislike Jinx and can't accept that positioning and getting to lategame on an immobile hyper carry is also a skill and not a free win?
Man, I didn't say to get buffed... I was saying to give us back our early poke dmg with Q... meaning to make it as it was before the nerfs... meaning you lose some gold from the klepto nerfs, so you don't need the drop in dmg anymore, do you? I still can play Ezreal, it's not like he's unplayable like it was last season when you had to be about 5 times better than your opponent not to get crushed by some stupid Twitch or Jink that just stood there and shoot you without a care in the world... Man, positioning is a skill... I accept that... I play all ADCs... I don't accept positioning with Twitch, with the stealth is way too easy... I mean come on... the range of his ult and the stealth make the positioning cheezy easy... Anyway, I think that if you bring Q where it was (I think you agree that the Q dmg wasn't that toxic in lane... klepto made it toxic because of the free gold) it would be great for Ezreal... PS. I played Ezreal with Glacial Augment and it's super strong in lane because the slows make ganks very easy... but still, that is strong if you're an idiot and you don't stay behind minions against Ezreal... anyway, I think that if they brought Q initial dmg back to where it was Ezreal would be in great shape and not broken... all the difference would be 20 more dmg on his Q in level 1, 15 on level 2, 10 on level 3 and 5 on level 4... it's not that toxic.... but I think it would be fair to have it back...
: Well im not Ezreal main but i find a new way for those champh whom dont good any runes. I think you should try Glacial Augment instead Klepto, (It slows the nemy by 60% with auto attack which procs your Q too) because its better close up than Fleet Footwork what only gives 30% move speed. I used this rune on {{champion:23}} and they really cant do anything with the non stop slow. It was normal games thoug. But i believe Glacial Augment pretty underrated since it got a huge buff.
True, I had thought of that too... it's like having both trinity and a better version of Gauntlet passive... I was gonna try this next (I was hoping for a good buff in dmg with Domination runes, but I don't see it happening... so Glacial Augment sounds quite appealing..)
sirDarts (EUW)
: Pretty much everyone still goes Klepto, and if not, then Fleet Footwork.
I see... I tried electrocute for the sudden impact buff and I think it does good dmg... but still not that much to be better than klepto since Ezreal mostly pokes and doesn't break electrocute all the time... I think I'll keep Klepto for now... but feels bad... and especially because the Nerfs Ezreal got was because of people crying about him being so OP... while ALL THEIR ADCs did pretty much more dmg in a teamfight if they weren't behind Ezreal... that REALLY feels bad....
: https://i.imgflip.com/brbbk.jpg?a421608 Old Fiora is the best
New Fiora is broken as hell... all you need to do is learn to break her passive... done... proceed to get 15 kills like nothing and get fed no matter what... also, build off tank but still one shot ADCs with only the two AAs from E and a Q... Fiora is god damn broken.... easiest carry ever... I dominate with her and I am one of the worst top laners you will ever see... I just don't like her so I don't play her a lot... but when I do, I almost always get insane numbers...
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: > [{quoted}](name=I will obliviate,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oVoR9bbE,comment-id=00000000000100000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T13:15:11.490+0000) > > Φιλε μου εκει ειναι ολο το ζουμι... στο οτι την αντικειμενικοτητα τη βλεπουν σαν δηλητηριο... εκει πονταρω... και οντως ο Γεωργιου ειναι πολυ εξυπνος... και θα σου πω τι εννοω... επειδη ξερω οτι θα πανε να με σταυρωσουν αμα τους μιλησω αντικειμενικα εκει πρεπει να παιξεις με το χιουμορ... δηλαδη να τους χτυπησεις σε αυτο που δεν εχουν... δηλαδη υψηλο δεικτη νοημοσυνης για να σε νικησουν στα επιχειρηματα... και βεβαια το χιουμορ τραβαει και τον απλο φιλαθλο που ειναι αηδιασμενος απο τους καφρους και γουσταρει να βλεπει να τους κοροϊδευουν... Αυτό είναι μια μεγάλη αλήθεια ... επίσης ότι είναι και χιουμοριστικό "μένει" περισσότερο στον ακροατή και το θύμαται και μπορεί και να το ξανασκεφτεί και αργότερα ... > Στη γερμανια δεν υπαρχουν καν αθλητικες εφημεριδες (μονο το περιοδικο Kicker)... στην Αγγλια δυο-τρεις ειναι ολες κι ολες... τελος παντων, πιστευω πολυ στο εγχειρημα μου γιατι πιστευω οτι αυτη η τοξικη κατασταση εχει κουρασει τον Ελληνα στο βαθος του... δηλαδη θελει να ακουσει καινουρια πραγματα και εννοω να του μιλησει καποιος για αθλητικα και οχι για οπαδικα... γενικότερα, σε όλα όσα έγραψες εγώ θα συμφωνήσω, απλά θα σε προειδοποιήσω οτι ποντάρεις σε κουτσό άλογο, δηλαδή στην ιδέα οτι ο Έλληνας "στο βάθος του" έχει κουραστεί απο όλα αυτά ... ο μέσος Έλληνας στο βάθος του είναι ένας τεράστιος υποκριτής που γουστάρει κοροϊδιλίκι και δεν γουστάρει το σωστό ... γουστάρει να λέει οτι γουστάρει το σωστό, αλλά αμα του δώσεις ευκαιρία να σου κάνει λαμογιά και να βγάλει αυτός κέρδος, όχι μόνο θα σου την κάνει (άσχετως με ότι και να έλεγε πριν) αλλά θα πάει να ανάψει και κεράκι μετά στην εκκλησιά για να νοιώθει και καλός άνθρωπος. Δεν είναι τυχαίο που οι Ρωμαίοι, αφού γνωρίσανε εμάς βγάλανε το ρητό "το καλύτερο βλέπω και επιδοκιμάζω, το χειρότερο όμως πράττω" ("Video meliora proboque, deteriora sequor") ... ποιός νομίζεις τους τα έμαθε αυτά τα κόλπα .?. Κάποτε σταμάτησα και είπα σε σοβαρό άνθρωπο που έλειπε χρόνια απο τον τόπο και αποφάσισε αφού πήρε σύνταξη να κατεβεί για Δήμαρχος, "Άσε τι σου λένε οι παρατρεχάμενοι. Δεν έχεις ιδέα ούτε που ήρθες, ούτε τι άνθρωποι σε διπλαρώσανε. Μάζεψέ τα και τράβα πίσω στην Αθήνα, εδώ δεν γουστάρει κανένας ούτε σοβαρούς ανθρώπους, ούτε καλοσύνες. Πέτρες για το κεφάλι σου μαζεύεις." με κοίταξε περίεργα, σου λέει "έλα μωρε τώρα με τον περίεργο. Νεός άνθρωπος θα μου πει εμένα που ήρθα" **και βέβαια στο τέλος έχασε** και μάλιστα με τρόπο που δεν άφηνε αμφιβολίες για το τι έγινε ... με είδε μετά απο χρόνια στην εκκλησία το Πάσχα και μου λέει με πίκρα "πόσο δίκαιο είχες. Μόνο εσύ μου είπες τελικα την αλήθεια". εύχομαι να μην με θυμηθείς κι εσύ, αλλά όποιος έχει ποντάρει στο κουτσό άλογο του ελληνικού "φιλότιμου", πάντα στο τέλος με θυμάται :/ Εγώ θα σου δώσω αυτό : http://users.uoa.gr/~nektar/arts/prose/evangelos_lempesis_idiots.htm για να καταλάβεις λίγο καλύτερα που ζεις. καλή επιτυχία ...
Εχεις δικιο, αλλα αλλο να πονταρεις στο φιλοτιμο σε πολιτικα με σοβαροτητα κι αλλο με αθλητικα με χιουμορ... αμα το παρεις στο δουλεμα το πραγμα μενει... και γουσταρει κι ο αλλος να το δει... αμα το παρεις σουπερ σοβαρα οτι και καλα εγω θα σου πω την αληθεια εχεις χασει... πρεπει απλα να δουλευεις τους απατεωνες και να κανεις τον αλλο να γελαει... παρ'το λιγο σαν μια λιγο πιο σοβαρη προσεγγιση stand up comedy... βρισκεις το θυμα σου κι αρχιζεις το δουλεμα... Δεν πονταρω ποτε στο ελληνικο φιλοτιμο... απλα πονταρω στο οτι η δημοσιοτητα παρακινει τους ανθρωπους... δηλαδη αμα ειναι να εχουν προβολη (μεσω καποιας δικης μου δραστηριοτητας οπως π.χ. το παρτυ που λεγαμε) τοτε μονο και μονο για το "ημουν κι εγω εκει" θα σε ακολουθησουν.... αμα δωσεις κατι διαφορετικο ο Ελληνας κολλαει πανω του γιατι ειναι του φαινεσθαι και θελει να το παιξει οτι και καλα ειναι πολυ μπροστα κι ετσι... οσο για τα λαμογια υπαρχουν παντου... αλλα επειδη εγω δεν θα μιλησω για ειδησεις αλλα για αθλητικα ως χομπι, δηλαδη θα βρισκω αθλητικα θεματα ειτε επικαιρα ειτε οχι και θα τα χρησιμοποιω για να περασω αποψη μεσω χαβαλε, δεν θα ειναι σαν να διαβαζουν αθλητικα σαιτ η αθλητικογραφους... θα ειναι κατι που θα ειναι πιο διαδραστικο... Ευχαριστω για την καλη επιτυχια... τα λεμε μεσα στο παιχνιδι καποια στιγμη... να'σαι καλα
: > [{quoted}](name=I will obliviate,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oVoR9bbE,comment-id=000000000001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T12:17:43.155+0000) > > θα βαλω λινκ οταν το ανοιξω το καναλι αλλα, δεν ξερω αμα θα μου το πεταξουν εδω γιατι καταλαβαινεις... δεν θα εχει σχεση με το παιχνιδι και λογικο ειναι... βαλτο εδώ σαν απάντηση ... αμα με κάνεις quote, θα το δω στα updates :) > τελος παντων αμα ειναι και ψηνεσαι τα το ψαξεις, σε κανα μηνα ψαξε στο youtube το Sport-School... προφανως για αθλητικα... χωρις οπαδικα, χωρις καφριλα, κραζοντας τους καφρους και πανω απ'ολα υγειως φιλε... και βεβαια για να ξεβρακωσουμε και ολους αυτους τους "δημοσιογραφους" που συντηρουν την καφριλα στην Ελλαδα γιατι αλλιως δεν εχουν δουλεια γιατι φυσικα αθλητικα δεν ξερουν.. είναι ωραίος στόχος, αλλά, αν θέλεις την γνώμη μου, την βλέπεις ανάποδα την δουλειά ... δεν είναι οι δημοσιογράφοι που συντηρούν την καφρίλα, **είναι ο κόσμος που την απαιτεί** ... αμα πας να γράψεις το σωστό θα πέσουνε όλοι να σε φάνε. Ο Γιώργος Γεωργίου, πριν πολλά χρόνια είχε πει την αλήθεια : "Οι εφημερίδες είναι πουλημένες στο κοινό τους" ... πρόσεξε την σοφία αυτης τη παρατήρησης και το τι υπονοοεί, οτι αμα μια εφημερίδα πήγαινε να γράψει την αλήθεια χωρίς οπαδιλίκια, την επόμενη ημέρα δεν θα πούλαγε ούτε μισό φύλλο. Κάπως έτσι η Ελλάδα με ένα γελοίο πρωτάθλημα έχει 10 αθλητικές εφημερίδες εθνικής εμβέλειας και η χώρες σαν την Γερμανία και την Αγγλία με ανώτερα πρωταθλήματα και μεγαλύτερο πληθυσμό, έχουνε λιγότερες (μια νομίζω είχε η Γερμανία?)! Κοινώς, θα πας να δώσεις αντικειμενικότητα σε ένα κοινό που δεν την θέλει, την βλέπει σαν δηλητήριο !! > Οπως και να'χει κριμα που εισαι στο EUW αλλιως θα παιζαμε και κανα ματσακι LoL μαζι καμια μερα... τα λεμε... έχω και στον EUNE account ... κάνε με add σαν "strumfojeth" :)
Φιλε μου εκει ειναι ολο το ζουμι... στο οτι την αντικειμενικοτητα τη βλεπουν σαν δηλητηριο... εκει πονταρω... και οντως ο Γεωργιου ειναι πολυ εξυπνος... και θα σου πω τι εννοω... επειδη ξερω οτι θα πανε να με σταυρωσουν αμα τους μιλησω αντικειμενικα εκει πρεπει να παιξεις με το χιουμορ... δηλαδη να τους χτυπησεις σε αυτο που δεν εχουν... δηλαδη υψηλο δεικτη νοημοσυνης για να σε νικησουν στα επιχειρηματα... και βεβαια το χιουμορ τραβαει και τον απλο φιλαθλο που ειναι αηδιασμενος απο τους καφρους και γουσταρει να βλεπει να τους κοροϊδευουν... Στη γερμανια δεν υπαρχουν καν αθλητικες εφημεριδες (μονο το περιοδικο Kicker)... στην Αγγλια δυο-τρεις ειναι ολες κι ολες... τελος παντων, πιστευω πολυ στο εγχειρημα μου γιατι πιστευω οτι αυτη η τοξικη κατασταση εχει κουρασει τον Ελληνα στο βαθος του... δηλαδη θελει να ακουσει καινουρια πραγματα και εννοω να του μιλησει καποιος για αθλητικα και οχι για οπαδικα... δηλαδη για παραδειγμα φτιαχνω ενα βιντεο για την "πιο βαρετη ομαδα στον πλανητη"... εχω επιχειρηματα γι'αυτο προφανως και χιουμορ για να το υποστηριξω (η ετσι πιστευω) και ακομα κι αν κανω λαθος, επειδη ειναι στο Youtube και ειναι ελευθερα τα σχολια ο μη καφρος θα το ευχαριστηθει παραπανω γιατι στους μη καφρους θα απανταω και εγω ο ιδιος... θα δωσω δηλαδη στον Ελληνα αυτο που του λειπει... η δυνατοτητα να ακουγεται η αποψη του ελευθερα γιατι στα καναλια δεν αφηνουν το κοινο να μιλησει ποτε γιατι ειναι τζιζ... και βεβαια θα του δωσω την ευχαριστηση να μην του απανταω σαν τον Γεωργιου με "λεω και δε λεω" αλλα με αποψη... Το πλανο μου ειναι να το κανω εναν διαρκη ζωντανο οργανισμο που θα μεγαλωνει λιγο λιγο και θα κερδισει τον Ελληνα με μαρκετινγκ αμερικανικο...δηλαδη με το να του συμπεριφερθει σαν πελατη... ο viewer μου θα ειναι ο πελατης μου... εγω λεω οτι λογικα θα πετυχει... γιατι αμα αποκτησει λιγη αναγνωρισιμοτητα θα μπορω να πλασαρω το οτι ειμαι καποιος και να μπορεσω να ασχοληθω 100% με αυτο και να εχω χορηγιες που θα βοηθουν και εμενα αλλα και να προσεγγισω τους viewers με το να λανσαρω ακομη και δικα μου προϊοντα... γιατι νομιζεις οτι αμα γινεις γνωστος ειδικα στους πιτσιρικαδες δεν θα δωσουν 10-15 Ευρω για ενα T-shirt με το logo σου? Επισης αμα γινεις λιγο γνωστος και σε εμπιστευτουν και λιγο οι αθλητες και κυριως οι παλαιμαχοι που δεν λογοδοτουν σε ομαδες πια, μπορεις να κανεις πραγματα πολυ μπροστα για την Ελλαδα... Τελος, αμα δημιουργησεις το ονομα σου, μετα μπορεις να διαμορφωσεις την κοινη αποψη... μετα μπορεις να διαμορφωσεις κινηση κατα της καφριλας κανονικα και με το νομο.. παραδειγμα... αμα εχεις 100κ viewers τους καλεις σε ενα παρτυ με τον ορο να φορανε ολοι απο ενα ρουχο με το λογκο της ομαδας τους... εγω λεω οτι μαζευεις 1-2 χιλιαρικα κοσμο... και βγαζεις τις ομαδες στη σεντρα ξερα... αμα εχεις τα αντερα να το παλεψεις πολλα γινονται... και χωρις υπερβολες με απειλες κλπ... απλα ανθρωπινες κινησεις χρειαζονται για να χτυπησεις την πλειοψηφια αυτων που δεν παιζουν ξυλο...
: > [{quoted}](name=I will obliviate,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oVoR9bbE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-03T11:48:30.467+0000) > > but the problem is social... This is true ... > I mean we've become uncivilized animals... and the stupid thing is that we have managed to do it while we live in the digital age where education and finding information to become a better human being should be easier than ever... and instead of becoming better we have become the most vulgar, uncivilized scum we could... ... but I think that it is exactly that age that makes the problem finally rear its ugly head ... do not confuse "education"(μόρφωση) with "finding information" (πληροφορία) ... you need to be decently educated in order to look for the right information and be able to find it within the sea of ignorance and false information that is the internet and such education is no longer provided to the children ... > Honestly, I hope that none of them go through the hospital after hospital and chemo after chemo ordeal... Well, I sincerely believe that noone should have to go through that, but every time I hear people casually wishing for others to get ill or die, I am feeling that I am really wrong about this ... > they may deserve it, but still it's one of the worst things in life (the worst being altzheimer's by far... I've lived through that too... bad luck in my family I know...) that is, indeed, the worst ... luckily the playerbase cannot spell that word so we are, at least, spared by that "wish" in the chat ... > My point is that the society, starting from the parents of the kids should demand that if multiplayer online games exist, they should become an environment in which kids can play without being turned into horrible human beings... because when a 10 year old reads those "wishes" he will repeat them as soon as possible because that's the "cool and badass way to answer" No, that is a very common mistake ... the game or the internet doesn't TURN the kids into "horrible human beings" ... they ALREADY ARE and it is mostly their parents' fault ... the internet or the game just provides a platform for those horrible kids to spew their foul personality all over the place without repercussions ... > Parents should become aware of what they are letting their children have access too... and honestly, not here in Greece because we both know we are beyond bad when it comes to justice, but in other nations such as UK, USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc the parents should become aware and bring up some lawsuits against the popular gaming companies... force them to make the environment safe... I'd be in favour of companies suing parents for totally ignoring the behaviour of their children, and not vice versa ... parents aren't supposed to let a kid in front of a screen and go off to do something else (having finally gotten rid of the kid), but you know that this is exactly what is happening ... it happened when we were younger, with the television, but TV was only a transmitter, so the problem was not obvious. BUT the computer is also a receiver and here, finally, that nasty character we are building into our kids as a society, shines through. It is not the computer's fault, or the internet's that a kid is swearing and wishing terminal illnessed to strangers, while it pretends to be nice at home and at school ... no, it is the parent's fault (and the kid's on some smaller degree) . > because they would have to choose between paying up millions in lawsuits or actually spending some thousand to make a system that actually bans toxic players with efficiency... Or parents would have to pay reparations to the companies for the toxic environment their kids created for their products ... that would clear up the net pretty fast ;) > One idea could be that if you're toxic you're permanently banned but you can BUY BACK your account and make it active again... no one would want to pay to play again, especially in a free game... so everyone would be a "good kid" and stop flaming... because let's face it... I have around 80 champs right now... I can't start over... I would have to be braindead to think I would start all over... well, apparently quite a lot of people are exactly that :p > If every multiplayer game was forced to work under certain laws like this, we could have better community... there is no community, only a playerbase ... but the enbetterment of the playerbase begins and starts with its MEMBERS ... we cannot crap all over the place and then nag that the company is to slow in cleaning out our shit ... no, WE need to get better first and then pursue better rules ... > PS. The game with the least toxic community in the world is BY FAR Guild Wars 2... you know why? Because it doesn't have a ranked competitive side... PvP is totally fun and you can show off your skills but what you get is more territory for your server (In World vs World) or you just win a match in the Arena... I've played for a while and honestly I've never been flamed when I mess up even once... I die and we have to start the dungeon all over? No worries... just try again... I wish MOBAs could be this way... but they are so competitive that people are becoming toxic from the first second... Competitiveness is just a way for companies to hook people up into the game ... and theirin lies the lack of education we were talking about ... not enough people pause and wonder simple questions like : - What am I competing for .?. - Why is it important .?. - What does it mean or offer me, if I climb and get better .?. etc Simple questions with simple answers that would have calmed most people down ... but, no, Bronze 5 people come here and shout and rant and rave about rankings and the game as if their very lives depend on them getting out of Bronze ... weird people ...
Honestly, I think we should just write a book about all this and become filthy rich and not have to care about anyone anymore... if I had a few dozen million in the bank I would seriously not care about anyone cursing me... I would just make my personal chef make me my 100 dollar meal and I would sit on my behind all day thinking about my next brilliant ideas that would make the world better... lol... Well, you're right about many things and it's really fun talking to you... and I like that we're both Greeks that can actually use the english language and don't just have a stupid proficiency degree to hang on the wall like most people (I hate that my CV and theirs says we have the same knowledge of english... but what can I do?) Anyway, I love philosophical arguments and this has been nice... have an awesome super amazing day my friend :)
: > [{quoted}](name=I will obliviate,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oVoR9bbE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-03T09:49:13.951+0000) > > I recently got a chat restriction for dropping a couple of F-bombs to some flamers in games... the thing is that I'm starting to believe that only cursing in ENGLISH counts... I mean I'm Greek right... I've had COUNTLESS Greek kids wish death to my family, cancer to my mother, to watch everything I love die and then kill myself... these are the ones that are in top priority... they say these in Greek CONSTANTLY... and of course all the nasty things they would do to my mother with their 12yo little sausages... Since you can understand them, I am assuming that you are Greek and yes, since you can understand what they say, the automated system can get those keywords and punish them as well ... e.g. it is not difficult to train the system to deal with the equivalent of a banable word in other languages ... > PS... My mother has survived cancer thankfully so I'm very touchy about the subject... so don't tell me mute them... when I hear things about cancer I want to have these guys in front of me and beat them to a bloody pulp... I want a REAL SOLUTION... I've had my mother in hospitals for a year... they don't know what that's like... to think if you're gonna have a mother in a couple of months or not... > > I need an answer seriously... ty for your time... I understand how you feel, so let me give you a different answer than the one you expected ... according to the official number more than 40.000 people in our country get sick from that disease every year ... this means that statistically, since we have a small population, in the span of our lives, **at least one** of our relatives or loved ones or even us, will have to face that disease. Have you noticed how life constantly brings in front of you the things you hate or ridicule .?. (e.g. you do not like immigrants, your daughter ends up marrying one) ... you do not have to get angry with these people (and we all know that most of them are kids or people like Hayate), you do not have to be offended by their ignorance or their audacity to wish someone such a horrible fate over a game. They do not know your pain, they cannot understand the ordeal or the agony of uncertainty ... but you can rest assured that eventually they will ... life and statistics tend to have a much more twisted "humor" than the meanest human can imagine ... and before anyone thinks that what I say is mean and inhumane, let me share a small dialogue from a game last year that I found impressive : teammate1 : I hope your mother gets cancer teammate2 : You are late, she already has it teammate1 : Good! I hope she dies. **You do not need to get angry with these people ... all you need to do is wait ... Life, is coming for them** ;)
Trust me, I've had the same conversation in my games play over and over and over... well, you're right on some level... but the problem is social... I mean we've become uncivilized animals... and the stupid thing is that we have managed to do it while we live in the digital age where education and finding information to become a better human being should be easier than ever... and instead of becoming better we have become the most vulgar, uncivilized scum we could... Honestly, I hope that none of them go through the hospital after hospital and chemo after chemo ordeal... they may deserve it, but still it's one of the worst things in life (the worst being altzheimer's by far... I've lived through that too... bad luck in my family I know...) My point is that the society, starting from the parents of the kids should demand that if multiplayer online games exist, they should become an environment in which kids can play without being turned into horrible human beings... because when a 10 year old reads those "wishes" he will repeat them as soon as possible because that's the "cool and badass way to answer" Parents should become aware of what they are letting their children have access too... and honestly, not here in Greece because we both know we are beyond bad when it comes to justice, but in other nations such as UK, USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain etc the parents should become aware and bring up some lawsuits against the popular gaming companies... force them to make the environment safe... because they would have to choose between paying up millions in lawsuits or actually spending some thousand to make a system that actually bans toxic players with efficiency... One idea could be that if you're toxic you're permanently banned but you can BUY BACK your account and make it active again... no one would want to pay to play again, especially in a free game... so everyone would be a "good kid" and stop flaming... because let's face it... I have around 80 champs right now... I can't start over... I would have to be braindead to think I would start all over... If every multiplayer game was forced to work under certain laws like this, we could have better community... PS. The game with the least toxic community in the world is BY FAR Guild Wars 2... you know why? Because it doesn't have a ranked competitive side... PvP is totally fun and you can show off your skills but what you get is more territory for your server (In World vs World) or you just win a match in the Arena... I've played for a while and honestly I've never been flamed when I mess up even once... I die and we have to start the dungeon all over? No worries... just try again... I wish MOBAs could be this way... but they are so competitive that people are becoming toxic from the first second...
GLurch (EUW)
: Sadly, toxicity is not something that can ever get fixed. Even if the system would instantly ban everyone after writing a single bad word, you'd still read people writing these bad words before getting banned. People knowing that there's a punishment in place if they do something doesn't always disencourage them enough to not do it. There are even some people who actually get encouraged by knowing what they're doing is "dangerous". Also note that usually, people who flame in the chat start off with a 10 Games Chat Restriction and then escalate to a 25 Games Chat Restriction. They can also get a 14 day ban after that and then a permanent ban, but jumping directly to these two last steps is rather rare and needs some serious toxicity, like death threats, sexism, racism and the-like. However, since I only have your word for it, can't check anything and don't know either exactly how the system treats what kind of behavior, I can't guarantee that these players should have skipped straight to a 14 day ban or permanent ban. Beyond that, you also don't always receive report feedback. When you receive it is completely random, so not receiving it doesn't mean someone didn't get punished. What I wanted to say with this is, that there's no way to be entirely sure they didn't get punished at all.
I know I can't be entirely sure... of course I can't... it's just discouraging because seeing the same behavior in every single game I think proves that people writing in their own language and not in english get away if not with everything, with 95% of the horrible things they say, while I got my 10 game chat restriction for being tired of being flamed and dropping a couple of F-bombs because let's face it.. I'm not Mother Teresa... Now, this is gonna sound awful, but I'm gonna translate one chat in my latest game today... the guy was greek playing top... I was mid... he died to the enemy ganking him... so he writes in Greek "F*k your dead" (meaning your dead ancestors)... I get pissed so I write him to stop cursing... he writes again in Greek "F%#k you... f%#k your mom... I'm not gonna do what you say you f%#king feeder... cancer to your mother" I get pissed off and I want to punch him at that point... but I had a recent chat restriction so I write in all chat for everyone to know what he said because it's important to bring out and uncover those people... so he says "I wish you watch everything you love die and then kill yourself.." I've had conversations like this at least 3 times a week if I play enough games... and it's the same words every time, the same behavior and I've never seen any improvement... so, either the system is not catching them or the system is not enough for these people... Well, I don't know if I'm right about this or wrong... I may very well be wrong and I know it... it just feels hopeless...
TheLynxMan (EUNE)
: Yeahy but the game is not 18+ so we canot do it. That is whybwe have rules against swearing. Curaing is always punishable. Localization exists. They do translate.
Let me doubt that they translate anything... Every time I tell other greeks that I'm greek and the game doesn't go well, all I hear is curses and wishes for me to commit suicide and my mother to die... finally, being under 18 shouldn't be a problem... I mean send the fine to the owner of the credit card... if he's fined he'll tell his kid to stop cursing or he will make him delete the game because let's face it, who has the money to support a habit of getting fined every 3 days... I mean, do we teach our children that it's ok to curse and do whatever the hell they want as long as they bend the rules to their liking (not using english and being underage) or do we teach them that there are some rules of good behaviour that they all have to follow or there would be consequences... And the reasoning of giving the money to charity to support oncology is a good argument to convince a court to pass such a law... Anyway, it's not gonna happen, so there is no point in discussing it seriously...
: That's actually a great idea! But the addresses would have to be verified in some way or another. xD {{sticker:poppy-wink}}
That's easy... to verify the address you would have to pay a symbolic amount (1 Euro or something through a credit card.... the banking system knows who the credit card belongs to and where he lives) to "buy" the game... and you're done... you know where every account owner lives... because to use a credit card you have to give the name in which the credit card is issued... Anyway, it's not gonna happen... if toxic behaviour is actually punished the gaming companies will lose way too much of their revenue which comes from toxic players who are if not the majority, easily half of the worldwide gaming community... If gaming companies wanted a safe and appealing environment for their players they would have done it in one night... but what they want is "sick minded" people that are obsessive, toxic and they pay anything to buy the latest champ that is gonna "bring them to the top" Making people obsessive with winning is what makes video games successful... the "free to play" MMOs are the perfect example of why people spend hundreds of dollars in a game that they could play by spending 0 dollars just to beat the rest of the players not by playing better but by buying better stuff...
GLurch (EUW)
: Just a disclaimer, since you're using our website: if you're not aware of it yet, some stuff there can be rather outdated. For example, report value is no longer a thing. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, still... the problem is cursing in non-english languages... it's a menace and the players keep abusing this every single day... I've heard the most disgusting things in my own language... and I don't care... I'm playing a game.... I shouldn't have to hear such things wether there is a mute button or not... it's a disgrace....
: http://en.volu-eu.org/pbkb_general_user_view.php?art=17 Basically, no. The system will pick you up eventually. Sorry for your mom tho. And for all the bad experience players like that brings to you when saying that stuff. :( Just keep on reporting them.
Thanks for the answer, I read the link you sent me... honestly it's not very encouraging but we have to hope for the best... One idea I had was that everyone should have to register their first and last name in their accounts as well as their address and city they live in... and every time they use the word cancer, a 10 dollar fine would come to their home (or 10 Euro) and the money could go for the support of oncology wings in hospitals... lol... that would be hilarious if such a thing existed and all known multiplayer online video games used it... hospital would become rich in a day... the second day people would stop using the word... XD Anyway, thanks for the answer... have a good day
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HomerJ20 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=I will obliviate,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=w0dXZ9Q4,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-29T20:47:58.794+0000) > > Game 1 > I will obliviate: shit > I will obliviate: sry man > I will obliviate: why braum? > I will obliviate: %%%% off nasus... report nasus flame > I will obliviate: report nasus and irelia for flame please > I will obliviate: noob kids... all they do is flame from 7 mins > I will obliviate: that's why they never win > I will obliviate: nice gank... be more obvious next time > I will obliviate: report me... %%%% off > I will obliviate: all my ranked games with ezreal were 10/1 or 15/2 > I will obliviate: jungler is bronze 6... not one good gank > I will obliviate: and they are under our turret all game > I will obliviate: NOOB > I will obliviate: %%%% > I will obliviate: thanks irelia... varus is pushing with 30HP... no gank again > I will obliviate: don't look a mini map... bronze 6 > I will obliviate: yeah... report me for being righ > I will obliviate: omfg... let me %%%%ing farm something > I will obliviate: I go afk... team trolls me > I will obliviate: doens't let me farm > I will obliviate: they desreve to lose > I will obliviate: and I have to be adc > I will obliviate: noob > I will obliviate: don't tell him that... he's pro > I will obliviate: of course I didn't... you're not even a good Nasus... > I will obliviate: yeah... XDDDDD > I will obliviate: ok pro > I will obliviate: whatever > I will obliviate: you silver pro... XD > I will obliviate: maybe if you had actually helped bot lane in early... and I mean the damn jg... we would have already won > I will obliviate: jg... learn to gank kid > I will obliviate: easy ganks all game... never there > Game 2 > I will obliviate: %%%% > I will obliviate: I cant believe this noob is winning > I will obliviate: omfg...really zac? > I will obliviate: you can't hit your E to save your life and you want to report the team? > I will obliviate: learn to play your champ noob > I will obliviate: np > I will obliviate: report our jg... worst noob ever > I will obliviate: he said report the team... and he can't stun anyone > I will obliviate: classic idiot kid... > I will obliviate: don't bother zac... he's too pro to gank...XD > I will obliviate: ty > I will obliviate: Zac... you can't gank a vayne with low HP... > I will obliviate: shut up please > I will obliviate: kata... don't even think about him > I will obliviate: he's below bronze 5 > I will obliviate: that's why he flames > I will obliviate: he's never won a game > I will obliviate: hahaha... zac stealing adc farm > I will obliviate: XD > I will obliviate: noob > I will obliviate: maybe kayn is an assassin you super noob??? > I will obliviate: a FED assassin > I will obliviate: bite me kid > I will obliviate: you're 1/6... shut up > I will obliviate: with 0 ganks > I will obliviate: gg > > Okay, I thought my chat restriction was for another game... but for this??? Look at this chat log... come on... if anything I was being flamed all game long in those games by sore kids that were mad about losing a damn game... and I am the one that gets punished??? this is REALLY disturbing... > > Oh, btw... the two f*ck comments that have nothing else on that line are just because I died... I didn't say it to someone... mostly to myself... so that you don't tell me I cursed other players... that's just the one that triggers it, it doesn't have to be toxic, it just has to confirm your toxic behaviour.
Then it doesn't make sense... also, people that curse you in their native languages all game long should be banned too... I'm sorry that I prefer not being a bastard and cursing everyone in my native language that no one would understand... also, if it's not toxic, then what kind of behaviour are we talking about? Anyway, I'm 100% sure that I haven't offended anyone in these games and I never offend anyone in my games in general... I wouldn't be getting friendly honors if I did... the point is that if the system was fair, the all chat would be restricted for 95% of the players... so as long as you see people in all chat flaming you know the system is just a piece of crap... because 90% of the real flamers get away with it and when you answer them because you're tired of their crap you get a ban...
Wa5abi65 (EUW)
: > in every game I play there are at least 5 other guys that have far worse behavior than me... I don't think that this is everyone's experience. Maybe it is YOUR behaviour that is making others react to you negatively? Looking at your chatlog, I am glad I don't have to share 30+ minutes of my life in a game with you.
So, you want to tell me that there aren't at least 2-5 people in EVERY SINGLE GAME that start flaming you on your first death... saying "report my team" after 5 mins of game... crying, screaming, cursing you because they are losing? I'm sorry, but then you're not playing LoL... you're playing some other game... in LoL if the game doesn't go PERFECT, there are always about 2-5 people from either team that scream and flame everyone... and I mean EVERYONE... if LoL was a sport with a referee, that man would be dead by halftime...
: you got a chat restriction and if you seriously cannot see whats wrong with your chat logs then I feel bad for you
ok, feel bad for me... now if you can't understand what I mean, I seriously feel bad for you... although I am pretty sure you do understand...
Ayber (EUW)
: "In 99% of the games i see much worse" "Oh look at them they are toxic so as long as i'm less toxic than them it's fine"
Well, if they don't get punished for much worse, i SHOULD BE fine... if they did get punished, then ok, you can punish me too... that's simple... it's called a justice system..
Wa5abi65 (EUW)
: >So, thanks for the penalty RIOT... my mother has survived cancer but I guess she should get another one to see if she does better this time, right? OMFG, really?! You have issues way beyond this game if that is anyway a serious comment.
If your mother has survived cancer, then you're touchy about this certain subject.... if she hasn't I hope you don't have to ever live through such an experience... ok? Am I clear enough for you???
: Im honestly starting to think these people that come here to complain about unfair bans can't read
I'm sorry but the sad thing is that in every single game there are about 4-5 guys that have far worse chatlogs than me... and if RIOT was banning half the players in every single game I would be fine with it... but they aren't... so I'm sorry but I'm not gonna accept a punishment while people that are far worse go unpunished... you either punish them all fairly or you punish NO ONE... you have to decide what you want to be... Punishing some people is not a justice system... following some RULES for punishment is... and I'm sorry but right now there are no certain rules that are being followed... just some people getting punished and others that are worse just happens that they aren't...
: I just realized my chat restriction happened for this...
Side comment... I'm pretty sure half the people that are making fun of me in here are much worse flamers than I am (cause I'm not that at all)... The test would be easy... I would play support in their games and KS them one kill... one kill... I'm pretty sure they would flame me all game long for that... I am an ADC main and when my supp KS a kill by accident or not I just tell them gj and np... yeah... I'm so toxic... all the other players are so much nicer than me... especially the ones wishing cancer to my family, telling me to commit suicide because I'm losing a game and death to everyone I love... but yeah... they do it in their native languages, not in english... sorry for knowing how to speak english RIOT... and of course you can't name them in the threads for being total scum... nooooo... that is against the rules... that is bad... you're a bad person if you name someone for being scum... our society has made us believe that the offense is being public about things... NO... the offense is NOT BEING public about the shit that happens around you... So, thanks for the penalty RIOT... my mother has survived cancer but I guess she should get another one to see if she does better this time, right?
Pényu (EUW)
: Chat restrictions come from multiple games, not just one. You were toxic in other games you just got punished after continuing to have shitty behavior in this one.
Well, my point is this... in every game I play there are at least 5 other guys that have far worse behavior than me... so yeah, I do feel cheated because if I'm not the worst one, why am I the one being punished? Also, all my honors are for being FRIENDLY and they are from strangers, not premades... why do those not count? Why doesn't it count that while everyone when you KS them as a support they curse you all game long, when my support does it to me (I main ADC) I say np and tell them gj for the kill? I guess those don't count... I'm sorry but if everyone was getting punished in every game I would be alright with it... but as it is now, I'm honestly being cheated....
LCK Apdo (EUNE)
: Are you really complaining that u got chat restriction after you wrote all of that? This game is supposed to be played quietly. /mute all
/mute all is not a what the game is supposed to be played like... if you want a multiplayer online game then you need to be able to co-exist... and I'm sorry but after 20 mins of constant flaming, I ANSWER... no one should be made to play while being cursed all game long... and my mother didn't raise me to shut up when people are telling me whatever shit they have in mind...
iSneez (EUNE)
: It's so funny/or sad people today are so toxic online and in games that they think this behavior its ok because they got used to do it all the time and to be done upon them so they see nothing wrong it this. Always in games I get people like this guy, they constant flame and harass me or others, but if you say something logic and with reason they're brain can't process it and they say they will report you for flame, in the BROKEN minds/personality their chat is normal since they see it all the time and doing it all time and logic and reason is TOXIC becuase it hurt their brain and they can't handle it. Actually for people in psychology schools (and i saw some around her) this case it's really interesting to study how somebody it's so sure on himself this is normal behavior and he ain't nothing wrong and he is so AMAZED he got chat ban.
I see.... so the fact that 99% of my honors is for being FRIENDLY doesn't matter... I never flame anyone... I even try to be nice to the idiots that do stupid things and not tell them anything about it... and in the end I end up flamed.... so yeah... I don't need any psychology school... sorry my beautifully minded friend... PS. My brain is fine... and if you think this is the worst you've seen in a game, then you're living in neverland... Also, RIOT, instead of punishing me should do something about people wishing death to my mother and cancers to my family in their native language instead... but no... I told them to stop flaming me... ban...
: > and I am the one that gets punished??? How would you know you are the only one? You probably just are the only one who felt the need to justify his actions on the boards.
I'm sorry but how are my actions sooooo bad? In 99% of the games I see much worse... and don't tell me that they punish someone in every single game... If you think about it, I didn't really flame anyone... just answered to their constant bullying... and I'm 99% sure that Nasus that god the honors from the guys that were flaming me along with him didn't get any punishment... so spare me the lecture...
: - Telling everyone to %%%% off - calling people trash - constant report calling - negative the whole game If you thought this was for another game, you're lucky you didn't get a ban. I'd have banned you for this.
1. Where do you see me calling anyone trash? I'm sorry that when getting flamed I told them they weren't all that good themselves and didn't help me 2. How long should someone flame you before you can tell them to f*ck off??? I'm sorry but when your chat is full of a nasus flaming you over and over and over and over... you're the one that just wants to find something negative about me... and saying the word f*ck when you die without cursing anyone is not an offense... 3. if you think this is negative, then 90% of players should be perma-banned... or you have never played a single game... 4. I'm sorry that I want to report the players that flame me from the first minute of the game...
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: No. I am a Twitch main. And as a 150K Twitch player, I have to tell you something. Twitch is neither bad or good. In early game, champions like {{champion:25}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:202}} can very easily ruin his game. I will reveal some secrets that I wouldn't but.. Twitch in early mode is shit unless he has a godlike support who can peel, heal or play smart. Twitch is almost useless even with 3 items (not always though). Twitch is one of the squishiest champions in LoL. He can get countered in mid-game by placing wards before a team fight. Don't let him farm. Send one of your teammates to the lane where Twitch farms to scare him away. In the late game, he is a beast but he can easily be useless if everyone focuses on him. Focus all the CC on him. While CC'ed he can't do anything. For any other questions just comment
I've played Twitch and I'm sorry but after Bork, Runaan's and Infinity, you're set for free penta kills in teamfights... just stealth, position yourself securely in stealth, press R in stealth and just kill everyone with 5-6 AAs and E... if you have a double tank team to keep you safe it becomes so easy that it's stupid... because stealth helps you position yourself without being targeted by the enemies and being forced to be isolated... also his Q gives him stealth AND a good AS buff... and his ult gives him insane range, piercing AAs AND a huge dmg buff... I'm sorry but after Vayne's nerf Twitch's ult gives him more dmg in late game... and Vayne's ult doesn't give her range or piercing AAs... and her stealth is momentary, not for 3 hours like Twitch... Twitch is legitimately super OP... As for the control wards, ok, you use them to keep track of him but still, in teamfights he does things way too easy because in teamfights you can't have always control wards everywhere around to keep track of him at all times... finally the stealth AS A SKILL is one that makes sense ONLY on an assassin that wasn't to execute someone... on an ADC it's just too much of a convenience... Twitch and Talon don't have the same job... Twitch and Evelyn don't have the same job.... he shouldn't have this convenience...
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