Daishar (EUW)
: Yea, competitive games are often more stressful. Often I want to %%%%ing punch someone in the face or do something worse but that's just how it is. Every competitive area is like that and you need some good mental to enjoy what are you doing. And as you said some single players games would be more relaxing and enjoyable but it's up to him.
MOBAs not competrive. It's dumbed down RTSs.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: well i know that fire is hot and burning my hand, so i dont put my hand in it and cry that its hot... im not an idiot, its the same, if you know a game is shit and just wasting your time then LEAVE it, it will be better for you and for us too, since one less player who wants nothing but revenge for his lost time and the only way to do it is to troll in matches...
Tarolock when you have actually spent money on a game ,and you can't your money back ,then what do I do?
Daishar (EUW)
: I advise you not to play the game if you don't enjoy it. It's just frustrating and bad and trust me I know the feeling. Try some other stuff like Apex Legends and etc.
Daisher I'm right ahead of you on that thought process.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daishar,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=2zAmX76V,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-12T20:14:16.024+0000) > > I advise you not to play the game if you don't enjoy it. It's just frustrating and bad and trust me I know the feeling. Try some other stuff like Apex Legends and etc. I would actually recommend him non competitive games, or offline games. But i have a gut feeling that he will get mad over the AI as well. Just imagine him playing Dark Souls or Cuphead.
If you want to see rage someone ,then I'm not your guy. Try DSP ,or Lowtiergod.
Cypherous (EUW)
: You're about 6 years late to this party
Well to be fair ,I have been playing League on and off through the years.
: Well , You reinstalled it , so it must be THAT fun .
I reinstall it ,I keep thinking that that they will fix it ,but that's wishful thinking.
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Inaphyt (EUW)
: Why league sucks now.
If I'd have known that League would have turned out like this ,then I wouldn't have spend over 1000s dollars on skins.
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Mada (EUW)
: Those new online Street Fighter games are just way too easy. Clearly catering to the scrubs. You can do 2323+P and it counts as 236236+P. %%%%ing disgrace. If you compare that to Guilty Gear or playing Riven you can clearly see which one's the better 2D fighter that uses a 3D engine.
You clearly have never played Street Fighter ,or you have never play against a decent Street Fighter player. Mada I'd learn what the %%%% red herrings are because you used the red herring fallacy now. You can't compare League to Street Fighter because Street Fighter rewards you for playing well ,but League on the other hand doesn't. I can get 30 kills in League ,and still end up losing ,but if I do well in street fighter ,than I'll be rewarded by winning.
: And yet league has a bigger esports than DotA or HoN... so as League is the more competitive game then the others are the casual games. All you’ve said is your own opinion, but that doesn’t make it right. All games are different and take different things to learn. DotA is harder to learn than LoL but their heroes are a lot easier, neither is better because it’s personal preference, no point arguing over it. Comparing them is pointless... it’s like apples and oranges you might prefer one or the other but they are still completely different
Swampert I'm sorry ,but you're using a fallacy known as the bandwagon fallacy ,and you want to be taken seriously ever in argument ,or ever in your life ,then I suggest that you stop doing that. This community is filled with morons.
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: You can't compare an FPS to a moba... League doesn't let you oneshot every opponent like cs:go does, which is why it is possible to solo carry in cs:go but not in league. You can still carry games very easily in low elo if you are good enough. One player isn't typically enough to ruin the chances of winning in low elo. Btw, you can leave dunkey's opinions out of this. There are still premades and modes like clash that make the "real league" exactly like pro league.
Mate that wasn't the point I was making ,I hope you didn't intentionally strawmen me because that's cheap as hell if I might "You can leave dunkey's opinions out of this" Hey ,Dunkey isn't only one who had that opinion ,I had that opinion for years ,and years ,and so did many others. I was making the point that that only about 2 percent of the community are actually good at League ,so that's actual League for you.
: I'm sure you've already ecountered a fed Yi, Yasuo, Riven or Vayne etc.? Because if you do, you also know that carrying solo is very much possible, however it takes a lot of skill, as it should. Everybody can carry with any champ, if played well and comparing it with CS doesn't really work. Also, i would like to hear your explanation of LoL "catering to scrubs" who don't play often? How exactly do you feel incentivised to spend money? I guess we can agree on the point that Pro-LoL and regular Q don't have much in common.
I have spent money on League ,and I want it back because the game isn't good now. Let me elaborate on "catering to scrubs who don't play often" ,in all multiplayer games except for League of Legends ,you're rewarded when you play well ,I'm not the best player in CS ,but when I'm making amazing plays ,I usually win games. In League ,I have gotten 25 plus kills ,and still lost matches because I was %%%%ed over by RNG. If I get 25 plus kills ,then I should be able to solo carry games.
: > League doesn't work as an competitive game The fact that League beat pretty much every record in esport and gaming in general in the last ~8 years kinda proves you wrong. No matter what your, Dunkeys or whoever's opinion about League is, facts are facts. And fact is that League is the most successful competitive game that ever existed. You don't have to like that, you don't have to like Leauge, you don't have to like where League is going, you can think whatever you want. But this is still a simple and cold fact. > The fact that a one idiot can just ruin the game for me ,is dumb. Then don't play games with team oriented gameplay. Like you said: Shooters are probably more in your area of interest, because they don't have real teamplay, the team is just the sum of each individual player and there are far less ripple effects that connects the players in a team. > League is such a joke. League is simply not a shooter. It's not like you have to play it, if you don't like it.
I hope you realize what the bandwagon fallacy is.
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Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ibbi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PNOdzgQi,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-23T16:41:58.786+0000) > > because someone downloaded way too much porn on their PC Fun fact: having a lot of porn (or whatever) in your PC doesn't make it slower. Malware received from said sources might, but not the content itself. *** > [{quoted}](name=Ibbi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PNOdzgQi,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-23T16:41:58.786+0000) > > and just have shit PCs to began with. I have a good PC ,it takes seconds for me to load Good for you. Not everyone has the luxury of acquiring a gaming system. Besides, you're blowing this out of proportion. I have a pretty bad machine (2010 laptop) and it doesn't take me more than 3 minutes to load into a game, but usually more than 1. *** > [{quoted}](name=Ibbi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PNOdzgQi,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-23T16:41:58.786+0000) > > why am I being punished for having a good PC. You're not. You have more time to think about your strategy during the loading screen and it's not like 5 minutes is the end of the world. Besides, if you're playing League, which is in itself a big "waste" of time (games too long), so why are you complaining about waiting for 5 minutes? Maybe you should try a few single player games so you don't have to wait for other people to catch up. I suggest [Path of Exile](https://store.steampowered.com/app/238960/Path_of_Exile/). It's free.
Or I just play an RTS ,no other teammates to relay on.
: 9/10 games these days will have this problem in your eyes. and with an attitude like that, might i suggest skipping the MP universe and go find a similar SP game that you might like? it takes 5-7 minutes not because of people having downloaded too much, but because 10 different IP's are pinging eachother and riot servers at the same time from 10 different locations.
I have actually considered into speed running ,rather than multiplayer games ,but not for the reason you might think.
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blackborg (EUNE)
: There is plenty info how not to be toxic. But the main thing i wanna point out. If you gonna be toxic, what will that change ingame? Your team suddenly gonna play like pro and win the game? You gonna make their league experience better? (for example if a newbie is playing that is feeding). Here what happens: You waste time (in which you could try doing something useful, if you still think the game is winable), you insult, make experience worse for others. In return they start also wasting time and flaming back at you. So at least 2 people gonna waste time, get flamed, have a bad experience, even if it's only 2 of you, you guys make experience for the other 3 worse also, promoting toxicity and lowering morale of the team, not doing anything. Which then may end up, some of those 3 guys starting flaming at both of you, going afk, etc. It's an endless cycle, where hate promotes hate and makes games worse for everyone. You will never make anything better in this game with hate/flame. I wanted to keep it small and simple, but oh well.. here it goes. So you have 2 options: be neutral, don't say anything, try to carry, mute others if needed. Be positive, cheer your team up, praise them even for small accomplishments, if this step doesn't work at all, see option above.
You have valid points that I agree with ,but it's not just the fact that players are bad ,it's the fact that most League players at a lower level straight up refuse to work together so I call them inbreds ,and morons. I know that it's not productive by any means ,but these players are wasting my time ,that's the reason why I'm toxic towards my teammates.
BesniStakor (EUNE)
: Just stop. Ignore the chat. /mute all if you have to.
It's not just the chat. People constantly do stupid shit which pisses off me. You don't have to be an amazing League player to know that you ward the bushes before you check them.
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Altiverse (EUNE)
: I'm not sure if you're referring to playerbase toxicity alone or also gameplay, so I'll answer both. Context: I'm playing in a Diamond level, which means I'm at the top ~2.1% of players (among players that play Ranked). I guess this means I'm somewhere at the top, but not really pro-or-something. At the same time, I also play on smurfs. Mainly because I have a few good friends I enjoy playing with, and most of them are much lower than me so it's not fun for them playing with me on my main account. Toxicity: Whenever I get into a game on these smurfs, I honestly can tell you my expectations from the mentality of my team is *completely* different. Yes, lower ranked players are FAR more toxic (on average, ofcourse. That's not to say that every player below gold is toxic, or that even all Challenger players are not. There is toxicity everywhere, just much less higher up). I'd say I encounter severe toxicity (Meaning: non-game-related flaming, death wishes, c**ncer, racism, homophobia) once in ~40 games, and while smurfing I can expect atleast one player to be severely toxic in over 85% of my games. As for mild toxicity (Meaning: gameplay-related flaming, pointing out your mistakes in a not-very-nice-manner) I'd say there's a ~50% chance of atleast one person being mildly toxic in every game. PS Everytime I use percentages, I refer to both teams, not just mine. --- Gameplay: I probably wouldn't really understand this question if I hadn't started playing Overwatch recently. I'm at the point where I somewhat-understand-the-game, but am not at all good at it. (My ranking is Platinum, but Plat there is nothing like Plat in LoL. Using ranking distribution statistics sites, I'd say my ranking there is compared to ~Silver 3 in LoL, considering the percentage of playerbase that don't play Ranked is roughly the same.) And I must say, for me it feels like LoL is *far* more balanced, but I'm 100% sure that this is just because I'm better at it. When playing Overwatch, sometimes I'm getting frustrated when playing against some champions that I have no idea how to counter or play correctly against, but it never happens in LoL. I believe lower ranked players in LoL have the same experience as I do in Overwatch. I'd say the vast majority of my LoL games are enjoyable gameplay-wise, and there's never the same champion facerolling all over the place with no one being able to deal with it. So yes, in this case too I believe being better might lead to having more fun (seriously I wish I'll get better at Overwatch so every game will feel balanced for me and not a complete faceroll :p), but that it might differ between people.
It's not just League of Legends that has homophobic gamers ,it's a CSGO as well. When people find out that I'm LBTQ ,I have heard it pretty much insult that you can use in multiplayer games as a live long gamer.
Tiddlywinks (EUNE)
: To answer your title: yes and no. It becomes more stressful as you climb. On the other hand you (occasionally...) get to play with and against better players, so (occasionally...) better plays are made, which is (sometimes) fun.
The problem in the lower ranked is that people are dumb as %%%%. I'm referring to the fact that most League players have shit vocabulary ,and can't form a basic argument isn't some sort of fallacy ,and do dumb shit that you should learned while you were leveling up.
Hydnoras (EUW)
: Well there are less trolls in high elo and people don't really leave games (can't remember the last time i had a leaver). The amount of flamers is significantly lower too. Once you get to dia 4+ though, smurfs become a slight problem. I'd say about 70-80% of games there is a smurf on at least one team and sometimes a duo which can make the game painful. Good thing is that the skill difference is actually not that big anymore in high elo. So if there is a smurf on the enemy team, i'm not worried since even if he is a master/challenger smurf, he is only slightly better than me and it's very hard to carry the games alone in that elo so the smurf has less impact. I wouldn't say it becomes more fun, just more consistently enjoyable.
I'm not just talking about flamers. I'm simply asking if people are slightly less %%%%%%ed in higher ranks(Referring to how they act in game ,not referring to bad players at all)?
: Can agree. At least more ppl in Gold know that we are all trash at the game.
I think I'm the bronzie who realize that he's shit at League.
Grimmrok (EUNE)
: >to buy a ward {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Grimmrok I think that I'm just being reasonable here.
: If you know what you're doing you have 50%+ chance of winning and you'll be climbing. If you focus more on telling your team what to do instead of getting ahead then you're below 50%. Also if you replace "League" with "community" in the title it would make a lot more sense.
The problem is that about 95 percent of the community is bad at the game ,and yes that's including myself. That's why I don't take League enough seriously to try because my team usually deserve to win most of the time. Your experience might be different from mine ,but I don't feel like try harding if my team doesn't deserve to win. Only League was a 1v1 game like Starcraft.
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Téglagyár (EUNE)
: Out of every single MOBA games, League of Legends has THE WORST matchmaking
You have played CSGO's none prime MM. Hackers ,and smurfs every game you play because Valve is a shitty company that's greedy as %%%%.
: System punishes you for playing good.
League is a complete joke. I think if I have double cs of opponent ,and double the kills ,I should get more XP ,and gold like how it is in HoN ,and DOTA Allstars.
Arn3L1sLtV2 (EUNE)
: Will riot remove Teemo?
Teemo is like the P90. Only useful against scrubs.
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Kuolema (EUW)
: Can you even enjoy LoL as casual gamer?
League isn't meant to be competitive ,if it were ,then they would actually fix the balancing issues. If I want a game that I can play competitively ,I'll just play CSGO instead. DOTA 2 and LoL don't cut it for me.
: Why do people say LoL is for noobs and Dota 2 for skilled people?
If you want skill ,play HoN or an actual RTS.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=P4NbpW1J,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-01-08T21:11:31.633+0000) > > why would they change anything if they can fill their pockets? if LoL is as bad as every second guy on boards says it it would mean that riot wouldve go bankrupt ages ago, but nope they are even expanding, making new shit (like the network system to lower ping etc) so it prolly isnt that bad > > and you brought up matchmaking: there is nothing wrong with matchmaking, if you have 1300 mmr youll get ppl around 1300 mmr in your games, the system cant do anything if those players with 1300 mmr go trolling just because they didnt got their icecream... that is the problem with the community and the only one who can fix that is the community, but they dont because they are busy crying rofl because people are hooked in playing the game, that why I no loads of people who hate the matchmaking and how it works but just dont leave because they are hooked on the game
Gamer Life bandwagon fallacy much?
Kuolema (EUW)
: Can you even enjoy LoL as casual gamer?
League of Legends and DOTA 2 are casual games.
: Why League of Legends will never be ''balanced''
League is a great example ,you should have a set number of characters in a game ,and never add new champions. If Valve kept adding more guns in CSGO ,CSGO would get unbalanced. This is why I can't take League seriously as a competitive game ,riot doesn't know what they are doing. League is made for casual scrubs. If you want skill ,play an actual RTS.

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