Zekutsu (EUW)
: Can some Diamond player look at my OP.GG?
Prioritize objectives , if you are fed help out rest of the lanes . Placement in team fights is also important . Watch for your team and predict or lead their playstyle . Also farm :D {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Drekiigar (EUW)
: I'm stuck at Bronze 5.
Watch some guides for warding , improve your friends CS and widen champion pool , try out different champ rotations .
: Hello everyone !
Play her safe , with her is all about the moving constantly , practice that and farming . Respect calls of your support but use your head if you do not feel like you can do much at that time . do not solo 1v5 :D search for builds on net . try them out . have fun .
Outdex (EUW)
: A memoir of my hate
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} I like you :D
: RITO IS SERIOUSLY TROLLING US WITH THE BAN LOGIC
> [{quoted}](name=Mpakalogatos,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=GX2GXgxZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-25T22:24:58.650+0000) > > RIOT ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? I GOT BANNED BCS I INTED IN ONE GAME BCS OF A %%%%%%ED PREMADE??? DO YOU EVEN CHECK THEM? THEIR FLAME? THEIR BEHAVIOUR THAT IS APPLIED ON ME??? FIX THAT ... CHECK THE GAME THAT I GOT BANNED FOR BUT ESPECIALLY THE CHAMP SELECT. THEY GRIEFED ME . BUT YOU STILL BAN ME. Hahahahahahahahahahahah .. wait , wait .... nope ..... HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA. You just made my day {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
Boniwix (EUNE)
: Im sorry ;P
Wait you got perma banned again ?
: Alright I understand where I went wrong, even though my opinion on how I think the system is unfair for people who int and troll remains. Is there any way I could chat restrict myself in game when my suspension ends? I really don't want to risk getting permabanned since I don't want the hassle of starting a new account. If anyone could reach out to me on how I could chat restrict myself in game to prevent something from this happening again, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
> [{quoted}](name=Im Literal Trash,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AEFvjE8F,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-12-26T15:16:38.151+0000) > > Alright I understand where I went wrong, even though my opinion on how I think the system is unfair for people who int and troll remains. Is there any way I could chat restrict myself in game when my suspension ends? I really don't want to risk getting permabanned since I don't want the hassle of starting a new account. If anyone could reach out to me on how I could chat restrict myself in game to prevent something from this happening again, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Mute.
: When will i get out of honor 1?
Why do people want honor so much ? It is nothing special . Can somebody explain please ? Is it because capsules ?
LazySlav (EUNE)
: Ban system doesn't work as it should - proof
Mute them all . Just to be clear. MUTE THEM ALL. only way to be safe ....
: Its not much but it's something.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosLlamma,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EJwKM1qa,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-26T19:07:45.471+0000) > > Been honour 0 (very deserved) for months. > Managed to get back to level 1. > Slow grind back up, working on not being a %%%%head. > Just thought i'd share it is possible to get out of 0 How the hell are you still not banned with honor lvl 0, that is what is really ....woah . But yeah good job getting out of 0 I guess .
Ellembi (EUNE)
: Honor Doesn't Solve Toxicity Problems, Please Make an Open Discussion for Solutions
Honor is just vanity product for people to feel like they accomplished something , it is just as in any multiplayer game - it is all about bling . Do not think Rito made it to mean something ,it is just a stupid little picture/badge with no point . My friend got chat restricted 2 times and he is still honor lvl5 {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} , go figure . They made it so you can feel pride and accomplishment when getting that flare over your border in next game XD .
: No, I don't support their actions. But I also don't call them "noob", "idiot" or go whine for the entire game about how they're ruining my fun. --- People generally don't troll me, because I know how to deal with humans, and I know how to make them play better. Hint: It's not by being whiny and rude.
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=WfyEEPAN,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-25T10:59:44.682+0000) > > No, I don't support their actions. > > But I also don't call them "noob", "idiot" or go whine for the entire game about how they're ruining my fun. > --- > People generally don't troll me, because I know how to deal with humans, > and I know how to make them play better. > > Hint: It's not by being whiny and rude. Certainly not by playing ranked a lot.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: System works, it notifies you every time someone your reported got banned, what would knowing the name of banned players mean to you? Safer environment? How so?
> [{quoted}](name=Purple Flame,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2017-05-14T12:58:54.845+0000) > > System works, it notifies you every time someone your reported got banned, what would knowing the name of banned players mean to you? > > Safer environment? How so? The problem is how do we know it works ? They randomly spew out that somebody got punished . Slap on the wrist ? Chat restriction ? Ban , we do not know. From them telling you at least the form of punishment you get safer environment ,because you know that he did not get away with what ever he did . And that you can count on RIOT to protect you from that sort of players
sanneh (EUW)
: ***
Maybe so , but still is this discussion offensive for you in anyway ?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: There were plenty of complaints about 15+ minute queues for players in bronze/silver before autofill was introduced.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=TwAW1qIT,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-05-14T12:53:20.944+0000) > > There were plenty of complaints about 15+ minute queues for players in bronze/silver before autofill was introduced. That was 2 years ago . Is number of players so low that there must be autofill ?
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Loryen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-05-14T10:59:17.982+0000) > > You know for example, here int he UK, if you commit a felony, it gets posted on the internet? with your face, name and age on it. It is enough to identify you, yet not enough to find you (unless the police has you in prison for life, in which case they will give more details to the public). Felony? You equate the toxicity in LoL with a felony?? O_o ... Also, I feel that what you are writing is more for finding the perpetrator of a crime than anything else. Else, it's just typical witchhunt behaviour. Not to mention that you create a climate of prejudice in society, and forcibly preventing any chance of reform from the part of the criminal. In fact, I would not be surprised is that practice simply pushes those people fruther into criminality. >In World of Warcraft, if a player breaks the rules, his IP address is made public, and players learn quite quickly they shouldn't break the rules. This whole thing of exposing players after breaking the rules, not only teaches them a lesson but also really motivates player who DO follow the rules and feel like they are setting an example for a better community (which right now is mostly toxic). Can you plz state where in Blizzard ToU it says that they are allowed to do that??
> [{quoted}](name=Aezander,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000300010001,timestamp=2017-05-14T11:18:03.286+0000) > > Felony? You equate the toxicity in LoL with a felony?? O_o ... Also, I feel that what you are writing is more for finding the perpetrator of a crime than anything else. Else, it's just typical witchhunt behaviour. Not to mention that you create a climate of prejudice in society, and forcibly preventing any chance of reform from the part of the criminal. In fact, I would not be surprised is that practice simply pushes those people fruther into criminality. > > Can you plz state where in Blizzard ToU it says that they are allowed to do that?? Well is cyber bullying a Felony ? And if somebody is toxic in game and saying stuff that can and will affect on some psychological lvl someone that is in teenage part of his life ? So just to get thing straight i started this discussion because i think it is interesting and i am putting my arguments for other people to criticize or agree with . I am not waging some holy crusade :D
: A question - why do you even need to know who got banned? What would it get you?
> [{quoted}](name=Purple Flame,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-05-14T10:49:32.360+0000) > > A question - why do you even need to know who got banned? > What would it get you? Well it would assure me that report system works for 1 , For two it would create safer environment for honorable players and RIOT will show that he cares about them .
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Icehood,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-05-14T09:50:47.524+0000) > > So what i got from this few comments is - we do not need to know who is toxic player because of the privacy , suck it up and let them waste more of our time and energy ? And everybody is OK with that ? > > I have an impression that people just do not care and or do not want to fight for something to be implemented so toxic players are deterred from playing ranked games . This is why people ridicule LOL community . No. People ridicule the LoL ""community"" (we are not a community, we are a playerbase that has small pockets of communities within) because of their flaming tongues, and the pointless flaming towards people you have never met irl, and never met then before in your games, and probably will never meet them again. You don't really need to know when a toxic person is punished because it doesn't help with anything but satisfying the hurt Egos. You don't need to know who's toxic, because as it was stated many of those toxic players reform after the first punishment (which usually is a CR), and having the mark of toxicity invites prejudice (just look at what former convicts usually have to go through to get back on their feet when coming back into society). You don't have to know who was that got punished when that message pops up in your client, especially if you know how the report system works, you just have to be satisfied that a person that was toxic will finally receive some form of punishment that will stop him from being toxic to other players and, hopefully, get him to self-reflect and reform. While I agree that messages that confirm my reports have helped in punishing a toxic player could be a little bit more often, my biggest issue with the Riot's Behaviour System is that it doesn't have balancing counterpart that promotes and rewards positive, good behaviour. There is only the Punitive System, and that on its own has an upper limit of effectiveness.
> [{quoted}](name=Aezander,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-05-14T11:12:56.299+0000) > > No. People ridicule the LoL ""community"" (we are not a community, we are a playerbase that has small pockets of communities within) because of their flaming tongues, and the pointless flaming towards people you have never met irl, and never met then before in your games, and probably will never meet them again. > > You don't really need to know when a toxic person is punished because it doesn't help with anything but satisfying the hurt Egos. You don't need to know who's toxic, because as it was stated many of those toxic players reform after the first punishment (which usually is a CR), and having the mark of toxicity invites prejudice (just look at what former convicts usually have to go through to get back on their feet when coming back into society). > > You don't have to know who was that got punished when that message pops up in your client, especially if you know how the report system works, you just have to be satisfied that a person that was toxic will finally receive some form of punishment that will stop him from being toxic to other players and, hopefully, get him to self-reflect and reform. > > While I agree that messages that confirm my reports have helped in punishing a toxic player could be a little bit more often, my biggest issue with the Riot's Behaviour System is that it doesn't have balancing counterpart that promotes and rewards positive, good behaviour. There is only the Punitive System, and that on its own has an upper limit of effectiveness. I agree with you on this one to some extent
: they DO help us, we just dont get a popup everytime they get sit down. this is the internet, alot of other games have worse punishment systems in my experience..
> [{quoted}](name=DaahRealLeon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-05-14T09:52:10.309+0000) > > they DO help us, we just dont get a popup everytime they get sit down. > this is the internet, alot of other games have worse punishment systems in my experience.. And why not ? there should be a option that we can choose , i want to be spammed every time somebody got punished . I personally want to know , and i know there are other people thinking the same . It is done i do not say that , but it is not transparent
Icehood (EUNE)
: Why good and honest summoners are kept in dark ?!
So what i got from this few comments is - we do not need to know who is toxic player because of the privacy , suck it up and let them waste more of our time and energy ? And everybody is OK with that ? I have an impression that people just do not care and or do not want to fight for something to be implemented so toxic players are deterred from playing ranked games . This is why people ridicule LOL community .
: so you mean riot should break some of their rules (regarding privacy of players) just because some people breaking those rules did aswell? i break a law, say i steal something... should the police also break a law? :I
> [{quoted}](name=DaahRealLeon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-13T23:19:36.893+0000) > > so you mean riot should break some of their rules (regarding privacy of players) just because some people breaking those rules did aswell? > > i break a law, say i steal something... should the police also break a law? > > :I So what you mean is that we should let them do as they like for 40 games or more , in the end they will get some sort of punishment and then they will be calm (reformed) for lets say next 40 games , then the story starts from start . Understand me i am playing for a long time and i have not seen a single step to better report system or to help out people who are stricken by toxic or other people who are breaking the rules . Maybe they can find some sort of gray area . I mean we've all been there , you have that game after work before bed and some guy ruins it or promo or that last game before you go somewhere .How does it feel ? It makes you angry? frustrated ? sad ? And does anybody helps you ? NO! and that is the biggest issue here .
: They get rewards some times at the end of season for being a part of the more positive (or even neutral) side of the community.
> [{quoted}](name=DaahRealLeon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-13T23:20:44.632+0000) > > They get rewards some times at the end of season for being a part of the more positive (or even neutral) side of the community. i know that , i got them all Season 1 tru 5 or 6 when the last one was out , still WOAH really nice of them........
Strigina (EUNE)
: According to Riot's statistics, most players actually reforms themselves after first punishment, so there is no need for draconian measures. Everyone deserves second chance, even toxic players.
> [{quoted}](name=Strigina,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:53:40.382+0000) > > According to Riot's statistics, most players actually reforms themselves after first punishment, so there is no need for draconian measures. Everyone deserves second chance, even toxic players. What about people who were hit with those toxic players ? What do they get for what they lost or been trough ? I know this is stupid argument , but cyber bullying is a crime in some part of the world ? correct ? So toxic players get to be reformed but no body cares about the persons on the other end of the stick . That is what i am saying , then need something to make people who gave report ( which is confirmed ) something in return .
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-05-13T20:45:47.726+0000) > > Draconian measures are actually the worst way to enforce rules. Ever wondered why governments simply don't apply death penalty to every law breach? But they apply public penalty.
Strigina (EUNE)
: Because Riot believes in reforming people. If people would know they have a punished player in their lobby, they would either dodge or possibly flame him/look for any reason to do so. Eventually it could keep people away from actually reforming themselves as they would see no reason in it if people would see them as bad anyway. There is a reason why pillory is not a punishment anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=Strigina,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:40:32.536+0000) > > Because Riot believes in reforming people. If people would know they have a punished player in their lobby, they would either dodge or possibly flame him/look for any reason to do so. Eventually it could keep people away from actually reforming themselves as they would see no reason in it if people would see them as bad anyway. > There is a reason why pillory is not a punishment anymore. They need to be out of the game not reformed. Draconian measures must be applied so the game gets cleansed
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Icehood,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:27:19.480+0000) > > Please elaborate . This is not an valid argument Whats there to elaborate. Account status is private thing. There is no reason for u to know whether someone got punished. It doesnt affect u in any way.
> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:30:53.925+0000) > > Whats there to elaborate. Account status is private thing. There is no reason for u to know whether someone got punished. It doesnt affect u in any way. Actually it does . It helps knowing that a person who did you wrong is punished...Also you can get a person who did you wrong again in the next game ( it happened to me ) Of course it affects me , it is called personal satisfaction . And accounts are absolutely private if i can come in and see almost everything about you or your games , even runes and skins .....
archerno1 (EUNE)
: Because u have no reason to know.
> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=td2Mrnly,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:19:14.782+0000) > > Because u have no reason to know. Please elaborate . This is not an valid argument
Rioter Comments
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=cum33QBq,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2017-05-13T18:05:23.772+0000) > > Aside from what Val told you: the feedback popup is set to appear rarely on purpose. Partially for privacy reasons, partially to avoid spamming you with notifications, and partially to prevent people from reverse-engineering the instant feedback system. > Lastly, not everyone gets punished after you press report on them, but later, or never. The issue at hand is not only feedback - problem is i do not know who is punished and how ... Why is privacy of a griever so important ?! that is a question that is bothering me ( but i guess this is for other topic or thread - please point me out to where should i go to write about this topic ) . For ticket issue i followed the guide i got here and successfully submitted a ticket , thank you for that .
Markic98 (EUNE)
: Thought things will be better in gold
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Is matchmaking the same for promo games?
Nah , that is like a boss battle ( boss is 4 trolls you get in your team ) so you have to win 1 vs 9 , GOOD LUCK ON FIELDS OF BATTLE
: You can submit your ticket [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new).
Same thing .... directs me to the boards or forum or what ever .....
Valzuuuh (EUW)
: Hey! What exactly happens when you try to submit ticket? You get redirected to boards? [Help & Support board](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/f/osqw6G4M) on NA is an official Riot channel. Alternatively you can submit ticket under "[I need help recovering my account.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=72416)" category, you don't have to login if you use it.
I do not have issue with my account , i want to submit a ticket regarding something else , but i get sent to this ..... what ever this is it is not helping my problem , i do not want to read 10000000 discussions i want my complaint or rant or what ever to be addressed by RIOT support employee . i think we deserve that . But if you want to know one of the reasons why i am trying to reach out to RIOT is regarding ban and reports , i want clarification why i do not get feedback on my reports and why am i not allowed to know which of the persons i reported is punished and how , that is called Justice i believe .I am LOL player or summoner since Season 1 , i feel like RIOT is not listening to us at all anymore . As i said that is just one of the issues , and i know every company as big as RIOT has a complaint department and i think i deserve to have my issues addressed professionally and efficient ( and no generic responses )
: How can anyone find LOL "FUN" anymore?
What RIOT needs to do is to mix around old and new system , put the positions queue do not put in autofill (drop that thing ), it is easier to wait for 20 min needed be t hen to have tilted support or any other lane , also they need to input 20 champ ban , and they you will see improvement in the game and in game play , ban all meta champs and let the FUN begin again , also give trolls and feeders and boosted people 20 games low prioritiy queue ( 30 min or so , maybe more depending on position ) and puff all of them are ancient history . And yes problems are not in HIGH ELO as every single stuck up Diamond player puts it , ofc it is not there ( do not forget more than 70% of player base is in LOW ELO ) .
Rioter Comments
Valzuuuh (EUW)
: Please don't report players on Boards, you're violating [Naming & Shaming](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/3eWpXbJi#Reporting) rule. I would appreciate if you could remove that summoner name, if you don't do so, moderators will do it and they may as well delete your discussion. Report players using reporting tool in post-game screen, not here.
This is interesting , how can player get his satisfaction in knowing that really toxic person got punishment ? All we get is notification that somebody we reported is "punished" . We do not know how and who . So be polite -helpful- good team mate and let them ruin the game for you , lose LP and division and we will get you a notice that somebody got punished somehow...... I think we wish and deserve to know WHO and HOW . That is satisfactory for player that went to a lot of stress and anxiety from player in question , and when you wanna name and shame him for something that is completely against code of conduct you can be punished again ?? I think Riot needs to work on punishment system some more , we do not get enough from them in that aspect . I play League since 2010 i had many of those encounters and i have a lot of grudge , i wish just once i got message from Riot " This player got 5 day ban because of violating code ......." People would get at least that satisfaction.

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