: > [{quoted}](name=Jupimm,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QGh8Vdo0,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-08-21T07:16:36.306+0000) > > Were did you saw a nerf on Riven ? I just saw a buff on Fiora > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} They changed Riven's CD on her Q to be at 12 seconds at all levels.
Was a joke, i saw it and thats not a nerf lmao... lvl 7-8 and she hoppin like nothing happend
: Matchmaking is soooooo balanced
Wellcome to League of Legends
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Try to share some kills with team instead of going for 30/0 leaving everyone starving for items.
Really ? you think that affect my games and stuff ? cause im 30/0 and share no kills.
realKano23 (EUNE)
: Practice doesnt help you learn to farm
You simply need to get a feeling for the cs, that means with ur main's u should've know how much dmg they do with basics and kinda get aware of your minions doing dmg and those range minions flying attacks. When i like jump on a champ witch i played rarely or so, i have a feeling a bot farms better than me, but when i'm on my main's, its totaly diferent
Glaceon04 (EUW)
: Attack move option
I'm not playing adc since s5 , but i remember there is an option were u can bind it on anything, and just like walk around and pres that key like a spell, your char would stop and attack the closest target.. but i don't remember exactly witch one. And its kinda hard, dont get it too easy... later into game u need to get some feeling with ur attackspeed so you still have the smooth attacks and dont cancel like 100 autos x'D {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Riven is still busted, the "nerf" was worthless
Were did you saw a nerf on Riven ? I just saw a buff on Fiora {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Oloc (EUNE)
: Bloodmoon skins against colorblindness
I never looked in the settings deeply, but if they do not posses an option a setting for colorblind people then they should realy do something about it..
Yraco (EUW)
: Unless they're on the enemy team, in which case they hard carry their team to victory.
: matchmaking System cant be fixed the matchmaking System works "fine", now the people is diferent, win/loose isn't enought to evaluate a player, In teory matchmaking is fine, but people don't know how to play the game, they dont play safe, they go 1v5 and blame others, and recently there is a lot of smurfs, matchmaking is hard be diferent, You can't evaluate a player by KDA, you only can evaluate mostly by win/lose ratio, but win/lose ration dont care if player got carried all games, you lost game you lose mmr you win game you wim mmr, no matter if you feed or you win 1v9 you will always get mmr. There no way to know a diference betwen a good and bad player just by winrate.
i play this game from season 1, till s5 was fun, and s7 somehow.. but now its just going straight down
: Eternals
New mastery system ? any link so i can see that. I hear it for the first time
: Its balanced :P if you calculate all your team damage and enemy team damage is almost same. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
I see two options then, either to fix this matchmaking sistem, or make smt were u can solo climb rank in a 1v1 or smt... this in nonsense
: Oh really, you have plats and low silvers in on one team in ranked game? I don't believe you.
Boi, i had a diamond 2 and gold 3 in one ranked game in my team, gold with 100+ games......
: Because it's just a normal game
Same thing in ranked, i would just takeover this Forum with my posts from ranked, how much same-games-like-this-one i got.. this one pissed me especially off
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Some stuff I didn't know that I found out (League Facts)
7. The person doing most in game loses the game no matter what.
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: That’s certainly how I would sort it out. Put it on an active with a cooldown that way it’s skill related. But there are other things I think Riot should potentially try, such as making the items much more cost ineffective so that it’s a choice to buy the grevious wounds not on items which are frankly in most core builds so they don’t loose anything for doing it... gives a trade off of losing stats or damage in favour of grevious wounds Riot should also ditch the components... it should be a commitment to counter a champion like this, not spending 800 gold on your first back to invalidate them for the rest of the game
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} U said it all my friend !!
Wen294 (EUW)
: Compared to the mage's alternative it's extremely cheap tbh.
Yea, mages got the GW passive only from {{item:3165}}
: Nerfing isn’t the answe, then aatrox becomes too strong and gets nerfed or GW gets buffed... GW needs a rework to have counterplay, and then healing champions need to loose a lot of the buffs they got to brute force past GW
Or GW could had some short cd after a decent duaration... atm its infinitive/permanent as long as u get touched by it
: 800 gold shouldn’t make a champion useless, and a champion shouldn’t be oppressively unstoppable if you don’t buy that item. Both sides of that coin needs a rework to be fair for both sides... otherwise healing champions are gonna keep getting buffed to survive with GW and GW is gonna keep getting buffed to counter the healing champions... and nobody wants that cycle to continue
TOP comment! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: absolute tragedy
u still here ?
: I wouldn't call 800g a cheap price.
compared to the effect it gives + dmg
: The game SHOULD be balanced around high elo more. Can you even imagine the mess that would happen if it was balanced around people who don't even know how to play the game? Players in lower elos also rarely buy {{item:3123}} .
Yep, i know.. but when they do.. it hurts alot for a cheap price
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: aatrox HARD smashes vladimir in lane 71% lane kill rate into 53% game win rate im not sure if you are trying to excuse yourself from the situation but i don't think you can accurately comment on the state of aatrox
Read again what you wrote, and compare.. but slowly
: I'd like you to think of it from a different perspective : * Nerfing the item more than it currently is will make it completely useless since it won't be a real counter to healing. In other words, champions like Aatrox and Mundo will have 0 counter play * You can still play smartly by avoiding those champs or waiting for them to focus someone else. You Q's sweet posts are knockups. So if you fight correctly, you can keep enemies ccied and not give them much chances to retaliate * Just by picking Aatrox in champion select, you're forcing enemies to buy {{item:3123}} which cost 800g (that's huge) and is completely useless against everyone else on your team. So you're weakening enemies compared to your teammates by having them try to beat you since they will be behind in items.
Yep, i totaly agree with you. But this u mentioned here wont happen in the divisions untill d2+ or myb even masters... soo still the same problem, witch means only challangers can enjoy it, or should i say, ppl who understand they role and the point of the game and gameplay
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: you have 24 games of aatrox in the last 2 seasons why are you even trying to lie https://imgur.com/a/9vDQc5J im pretty sure not one thing in those 2 lines you just wrote is true
And since u tryharding ur butt off to be cool w/soEva here, pick aatrox vs my vlad under any conditions, and my vlad is awfull but it will still win you/Aatrox easy
: {{champion:157}} passive :P But Malza r go on cd too Overall self healing and life steal dont have cds (adc etc, exect some cases), and {{summoner:14}} have cd, and to buy item you need waste gold. You cant compare a stuff that have cd {{item:3140}} breaking {{champion:90}} R and his R go no cd with a stuff who (overall) dont have cd like lifesteal and self healing.
Yep, R cd + Qss cd = Qss is almost every time up when malza R soo xD thats kinda funn aswell but nvm, i have a feeling that these guys comenting in here are not much playing aatrox, in othervise they were more often vs a feed aatrox and didnt had fun, or even tought about to buy that items that counter him :"D
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: you have 24 games of aatrox in the last 2 seasons why are you even trying to lie https://imgur.com/a/9vDQc5J im pretty sure not one thing in those 2 lines you just wrote is true
Who was i vs against ?, mention that please
: All champs need a counter to be balanced and healing champs like Aatrox and mundo is Grievous Wounds. If Riot nerf Grievous Wounds Mundo will be imortal same for Aatrox. Like {{summoner:1}} and {{item:3140}} it counters some champs.
+, i forgot to mention that Aatrox has enough counterpicks aswell soo... immagine like Aatrox vs Fiora (with Griv Wounds), or Aatrox vs Olaf (with Griv Wounds), or Aatrox vs Vlad (with Griv Wounds) or Aatrox vs Trynda (with Griv Wounds) etc... just Aaaaaalot of ppl are not expecting much dmg from Aatrox early, thats why they die to him often And u can ban only 1 of them... and those i mentioned are a total counter pick for him
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: who the %%%% builds lethality on aatrox anymore aatrox has plenty of damage in his kit to 1 combo people if he hits his sweet spots don't even try to argue that aatrox doesn't deal damage
If u have set an eye in this comment section, you would probably see that Aatrox is my n1 pick on toplane... Trust me, i know exactly what hes capable to do and what not.
: All champs need a counter to be balanced and healing champs like Aatrox and mundo is Grievous Wounds. If Riot nerf Grievous Wounds Mundo will be imortal same for Aatrox. Like {{summoner:1}} and {{item:3140}} it counters some champs.
Yeah, QSS and Cleanse are on a cd after the use, so you have still some time.... like for Malza to use ur R when the opponent doesent have QSS... immagine QSS would be like the Griv passive, infitie/no CD... who would ever play Malza again for example ?
: All champs need a counter to be balanced and healing champs like Aatrox and mundo is Grievous Wounds. If Riot nerf Grievous Wounds Mundo will be imortal same for Aatrox. Like {{summoner:1}} and {{item:3140}} it counters some champs.
Okay, lets say it this way then. Dont touch Griv passive, give Aatrox some sustain ? or how should i lifestealing based bruiser hold on longer in teamfights...
: As much as I love playing aatrox, pika is right. If you can't stop his healing, he becomes nigh unkillable. If the enemy builds grievous wounds, it just means you have to be smarter about when and how you pick fights. You will still win the sidelane splitpush vs a tank with {{item:3076}}, and assuming you're even or ahead, you can still 1v1 pretty much any mage with {{item:3165}} or adc with {{item:3123}} .
I totaly agree that these items are kinda a must vs Aatrox, but its not fun for him at all, since i play Aatrox alot, my favorite toplane pick
Jupimm (EUNE)
: Grievous Wounds vs Aatrox
Does anyone have something smarter to post except ''hit your abbilities and l2p'' or a comment in the direction like i said ''REMOVE'' the passive ? {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: hit your abiltiies had a dude complain that my champ is op after he literally didn't hit a single Q l2p my dude if you hit your abilities it doesn't matter that you don't get to heal because what is dead can't deal damage
Thats able with full lethal Aatrox maybe, + then u kill one and die... best comment {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: As much as I love playing aatrox, pika is right. If you can't stop his healing, he becomes nigh unkillable. If the enemy builds grievous wounds, it just means you have to be smarter about when and how you pick fights. You will still win the sidelane splitpush vs a tank with {{item:3076}}, and assuming you're even or ahead, you can still 1v1 pretty much any mage with {{item:3165}} or adc with {{item:3123}} .
1v1's..okay And what you do in a teamfight with a ignite on top of that, + u in 70-80% the frontline except u got a seju jg or smt else, how long will you be able to hold the focus ? i think its arround 1-2 secconds max, but dont belive me im not 100% sure.
Pikaguif (EUW)
: That's the point of healing reductions bc if not then aatrox becomes and unstoppable healing force and the same for mundo for example
Yeah, i get the point and i did not said to remove that passive or something, just to nerf it for like 5-10% of the reduc. Mundo for example is a straight tank, based on Armor and MR he builds witch gives him the sustain in fights. But if u would build Aatrox like straight tank, u will lack on dmg and become like a walking dmg sponge, untill they kill u, witch does not hold long in late game
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