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> [{quoted}](name=kurnubego,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=oRWU36gY,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2016-01-24T10:17:28.198+0000)
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> Yeah some champions are out of meta. And many are in meta. But it's no longer game breaking. Also, some champions are just crowd favorites like Zed or Yasuo. Yas for example is weak now, ppl still pick him.
>
> All champions won't be great in meta at any point of the game. Meta shifts.
They dont have to be, but players want counterplay possibilities, instead of rengar pressin R and right clickin and scorin a kill is not balanced at all.
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> [{quoted}](name=kvykvy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=oRWU36gY,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-01-24T00:38:43.752+0000)
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> Pre season is finished,I'm just stating the fact that immobile ADCS (except mf due to OP ULT) aren't viable in higher elo/competitive. There's simply no point risking taking them in this meta and that was brought by riot,i think pick ratio can pretty much tell what's OK and what's not.Right now we have ashe pick ratio around 2% in high elo,mean while lucian stands around 40%-50%,do you really think Riot even considered what impact new items( frost queen),LW nerf and other stuff will have on such champions?
+1 i tryed even with mobile marksman, i found out that most marksman lack the dmg, its only ezreal, mf, graves, kindred and kalista being viable.
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> [{quoted}](name=Armor,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vEZeOZFu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-24T14:00:49.914+0000)
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> There is a good counter for these champion you just need to shutdown these champion early and best champion in my options to should down these champion elise in the jungle .. I am main top and jungle ..
Funny that you instantly talk about counter, you clearly dont see the big picture, players can easily farm their lane against their counters, so on teamfight malp just presses R on carry and hes good as dead,
malp sees carry alone, lets just right click späm spells random order win because he cant hurt you cuz you are way too tanky :=)
it just takes so minimal amount of skill to kill people as malphite, comparin how mutch someone has to work to get you down.
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2-3 more bans and it should do the trick :)
or complete swap of the balance team, looks like they are focusin on fappin that they are on the balance team instead of balancin.
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> [{quoted}](name=RiryzWarsnake,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8PHHN38Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-24T08:26:49.233+0000)
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> you have roughly 3 kind of champions. (some exceptions)
>
> 1. AA champs: they have a mana bar because their main damage is from their basic attacks so unlimited spells is a little bit stupid.
> 2. spell champs: they have mana because practically all their damage comes from their spells. having unlimited spellscasts would bring no challenge.
> 3. Non-mana champs: these champions dont have the damage or the ability power to match the above 2. these champions rely on their abilities to get their damage out. without abilities they dont have a chance. (for example: riven -> she heavily relies on her skills to cc and get her passive. without her spells up she is pretty useless. rengar -> relies on his 5 stacks to be able to burst champions and then there is vladimir -> has no mana because his spells cost health)
>
> and then there are the exceptions: tryndamere who has no cost and does a lot of aa damage, aatrox who only has health cost on 2 spells, etc.
zed is AA, rengar is AA, what did i forgot? oh yeah riven scalin 70% to AA, did i forgot something ?
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Graves has highest random team win %, but not highest setup win %
as example, MF + janna botlane combination has 65% winrate
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> [{quoted}](name=Shade Of Wolf,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5VA84ubH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-21T17:47:48.708+0000)
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> IKR, it's just too good not to take. I tried going with the updated ADC masteries, but then I got crapped on in the first 5 minutes of every game by Graves/MF/Lucian burst rekking me because they were smart and kept Thunderlord's lmao.
first they nerf lucian 10 times, once it was perfectly balanced, hey lets add a mastery that buffs lucians early dmg back to what it was. Hellou balance tema?
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> [{quoted}](name=TTekkers,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5VA84ubH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-21T17:42:23.214+0000)
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> Yes, the idea is that instead of one OP mastery, there are several on a similar power level - this can be achieved by nerfing the OP one, or bringing everything else up. I see no problem with this concept whatsoever.
but they arent similiar power level
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Workin as intented.
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dia3 or any higher gets to plat1 --> low diamonds/high plats get to low plat/gold
i dont even see why people qq, if they were to remain at the same elo they were, they would get crushed by higher rankin players as plat1 is highest you can get
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> [{quoted}](name=iHeyt,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=79VTyoQM,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-01-21T14:56:45.382+0000)
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> Agreed, there are no much anti-tank items. There is barerly 2 to pick, BoTRK and Dominik. We would need extra 3 items to deal with it.
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> And bonus for AP anti-tank, Torment is not enough it gives funny damage, make passive ignore additional magic resist or something
and most marksman are forced to go the same build path IE --> statik, oh yeah tanks 3k hp 150 armor at this time, you deal 0 dmg to them --> get boots and LW oh wait, tanks 200 armor 4k hp now, damn still 0 dmg, get ruined king --> tanks uppin to 4,5k hp and 250 armor, still 0 dmg.
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tanks being unkillable, "vayne destroys them" yeah except they made thunderlord early poke lanes impossible to farm = 0 farm vayne so tanks wont get destroyed
thunderlord poke champs early game gg, theres no sustain at all on botlane against this, oh yeah ur forced to have soraka support to even lane against poke or you dont farm at all.
mages insta deletin other carrys flash combo and score a kill, balanced huh?
gold income items on AP poke supports, np lets have annie support with blue gold item --> lvl 11 insta delete adc
tanky cc teamsetups are pretty mutch right clickin on carrys and späm their cc, best part is that once ur caught in 1 cc, ur gonna be cced until dead, best part is that some cc are undodgeable.
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challengers/masters/diamonds get to plat1
fuc yeah, some plat trashes should get in plat1 to ruin higher ranked games nice idea
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dia3 --> plat1 i guess plat1 is highest you can get
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If ur bronze, its ur own fault, not the systems.
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i find the system retarted as fuck.
Jungler gets main role, second guy who has jungle main role gets marksman --> marksman mainer gets support and so on.
Then this 1 single guy who mains jungle but sucks at it cant do shit and the remainin team members are not in their main roles and its gg
i get 80% of games my secondary role.
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d3 ---> plat1
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the new system is just retarted, you pick your main role and secondary role
guess what, you end up in your secondary role + someone got your main role which was his secondary role, its fuckin trash system
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they arent placements l0l, it just drops your rank nothin else, did you think u would get higher rank from these so called placements than you were before?
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win 6/10 --> plat1 : |||
i find the que system retarted, allways puts you the secondary role.
funny to setup marksman as main role ---> you get secondary role, and your team marksman is secondary, dafuc seriously?
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i dont mind new stuff as long as its balanced, riot still havent fixed their tank meta superiority...
mana pots removal, kick in the nutts for mana users.
"marksman item uprage" was just a troll patch, they actually nerfed some marksman items on that patch = weaker marksman...
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> [{quoted}](name=Arashì,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OApKnUkF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-20T21:43:12.440+0000)
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> Duos being so die-hard on playing bot together is nonsense in the first place. It's a much bigger advantage to the team if you can spread your advantage.
> Play mid-jungle, or top-jungle, or mid and adc.
> Instead of having your own little duo-island in bot together.
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it drops you by 1 division, i guess plat1 is highest anyone can get after placements
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they arent placement games l0l
It just drops ur rank by 1 division, gold 1 --> silver1, maybe u can get to gold5-4 if u win all
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> [{quoted}](name=Senbónzakura,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EoE7qolT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-20T19:47:33.632+0000)
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> As a fellow diamond player I can tell you this ain't true. Higher elo means they are just better at playing the game, it has absolutely nothing to do with people's attitude. Even more so, high elo players are more obsessed with the game and since the game is intense, all it takes is 1 mistake to turn the game around at that elo, people tilt a lot and sometimes it tends to lead to heavy flames.
>
> Do they get reported? yes.
yes raports for single mistake XD
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> [{quoted}](name=Sir Apatosaurus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hz9BH3Ej,comment-id=00010000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-20T19:07:49.128+0000)
>
> Was I talking to you then?
> He insulted me, I retorted.
> You insulted me, I didn't insult you back.
>
> I've since matured, we may disagree but that doesn't mean I should be mean to you.
> Love and friendship :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
> ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺
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uuh, as you posted on public topic, first of all, its not talkin, its typin.
Secondly as of said, you posted it on public topic, so yeah ur typin it for everyone :=)
Please dont even try to change subject once ur locked up in that sack : |
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> [{quoted}](name=TEAGSS Fiso,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sdETNOvk,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-20T19:02:01.422+0000)
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> {{item:3140}} + team + {{item:3026}} ...
>
>
> Ok you're right.
And malphite doesnt have his team? you cant seriously drag "team helps you out" for this.
The fact is that an marksman requires IE statik ruined king LW and boots to deal dmg to malphite, to survive he needs GA, so practically you cant do anything vs malphite before you have the full build.
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> [{quoted}](name=TEAGSS Fiso,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sdETNOvk,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-20T18:31:51.888+0000)
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> Yeah that's another thing in League but there are ways to not let that happen. Don't let them get fed/position/don't stick when they have a malphite/ban them.
even if malphite is destroyed on lane, he can easily kill adc with right click and spämmin spells random order and even missin his ultimate, been there done that
and then we can talk about unkillable mundo.
and please dont drag vayne card into this as he can be shutdown completely with thunderlord pokes
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> [{quoted}](name=Sir Apatosaurus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hz9BH3Ej,comment-id=000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-20T18:52:18.418+0000)
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> "You're wrong."
>
> OK friend.
"Just another ADC with an over inflated ego nothing to see here.
I'm betting your mother never loved you as a child. Is that why you project this crap on to others? Go back to Reddit with your garbage tier maymays, kiddo."
--^ how deep are you in that sack right now?
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> [{quoted}](name=Sir Apatosaurus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hz9BH3Ej,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2016-01-20T18:45:16.678+0000)
>
> Swing and a miss.
Indeed, as you cant make any reasonable arguments about the topic you go for personal insults - kappa
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> [{quoted}](name=Sir Apatosaurus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hz9BH3Ej,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-01-20T17:25:13.050+0000)
>
> Just another ADC with an over inflated ego nothing to see here.
> I'm betting your mother never loved you as a child. Is that why you project this crap on to others? Go back to Reddit with your garbage tier maymays, kiddo.
>
> Also you do know you can reply to comments instead of posting a new one?
uuh tank or mage mainer cryin how he wants to keep his main champ overpowered
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> [{quoted}](name=TEAGSS Fiso,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sdETNOvk,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-01-20T18:24:20.054+0000)
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> Sure you can do this too but if you suck with that champ you won't be able to do anything at all before the enemy destroys you hard and your team starts to flame you :D
>
> Except for Annie. Gosh I hate that champ{{summoner:14}} {{summoner:32}}
> {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
and many more than just annie : |
the game is simply unbalanced as fuck and flash is playing a really big part in it
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> [{quoted}](name=TEAGSS Fiso,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sdETNOvk,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-01-20T18:24:20.054+0000)
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> Sure you can do this too but if you suck with that champ you won't be able to do anything at all before the enemy destroys you hard and your team starts to flame you :D
damn really? i didnt know tank champs need any skill as they can just right click on carry at teamfight and späm spells random order win win
sooo wheres the skill? : |
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> [{quoted}](name=Omnus,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FOkBNqTm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-20T17:10:41.172+0000)
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> I still will. I have mained him for almost three seasons, and I won't stop doing so. I do find it kind of sad that they seem to be trying to turn him more into a bruiser than an assassin... but I'll make it work somehow.
not even assasins are supposed to drop targets under 0,3 sec
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you mean play op champs and abuse flash to engage as its not counterplayable.
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> [{quoted}](name=Dragon Intel,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mPJ2lnX5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-20T17:55:26.725+0000)
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> More qq please.
i'll stop qq once riot adds skill to win
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> [{quoted}](name=ApatheticLoner,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mPJ2lnX5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-20T17:48:20.460+0000)
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> Did it involve {{champion:34}}/{{champion:74}} /{{champion:99}} and {{item:3001}}/ {{item:3136}} /{{item:3285}} ?
>
>
> If YES and YES, sounds legit to me.
sounds 0 skill to me
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they gonna nerf rengar soon, allready on PBE :)
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so gold1 player in same game with platV
DAaaaaamn theres so big difference, ur just bäd and try to put it on others
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scripter for sure, not a bug
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yes, just learn to use flash combos : |
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abuse flash for offensive, only use it for defensive in very late game if you get in bäd situation.
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aaand crit rengar, the skill to get kill is real.
buttons to press, R Q and move mouse over and right click, wola you have archieved a kill.
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just played a game vs rengar, he got fed early, ended up with crit build, 28 kills 8 deaths in the end, eventho we won because they farmed kills and didnt focus on finishin game, but whole game was that rengar practically insta deletin anyone who went out of base.
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> [{quoted}](name=chelseaoscar15,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mAxm84lJ,comment-id=0002000200000000,timestamp=2016-01-17T18:40:12.288+0000)
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> Just because rengar got a few early kills, in no way does this mean game is over. If this is your attitude, i feel sorry for your teammates.
Yeah, i can feel the 1 shot crit counterplay :=)
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I've won several 4v5 games easily, i dont see any reason for this
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> [{quoted}](name=Rayz019,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8hNXGUxt,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-01-17T19:45:29.068+0000)
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> She's not weak, just a feast or famine champion, there are only 2 possibilities for a Diana game in my experience.
>
> 1: You get kills, a lot of them, you snowball hard and become a murder train that cant stop
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> 2: You don't snowball, you become irrelevant.
>
> However, if Diana gets buffed, I'm abusing the hell out of her, she has hilariously high carry potential.
diana can still insta delete adc even if not fed
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They should start nerfn most commonly played champions, bursters, heavy tanks, easy to play champions to same lvl as azir is now
tanks are too tanky with insane dmg with so minimal effort.
bursters just faceroll with point and clickin
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