: No reasonable pentalties/restrictions for ppl like rage quitters or any type of compensation
They wont ban rage quitters. Reason? Prove that his internet didnt went down. Same for baning feeders and trolls. They wont ban somebody for playing offmeta or having "bad game". They wont forbid someone to play first time champion on ranked (I wish they made some restrictions like 5 wins on normal drafts). My advice? If you main adc then play draven. Snowball the shit out of enemy team and then you can do 1v3 if you know what kiting is.
Spagooti (EUW)
: How do I stop being such a toxic player
Dont troll, LEARN THE META, learn how to play characters, learn 3 roles (your 2 main roles and support for autofills. if u cant then dodge like high elo does). Never test new champs on rankeds. Learn to play def and build paths. When ahead, roam other lanes and let them get fed. Thats all you need to rank up.
: Rito needs to do something about the AFK/trolls it's out of hand
Well I had twice troll support. Ahri and Rammus. They didnt do anything, didnt even buy sighstone. Yet nobody bans these shits. They fed like boosted animals and yet they can do it for couple of more games. Riot doesnt do shit about the trollers as long as they dont flame. Bring back old tribunal. If u cant make judgement in time, then let players handle it.
Rstonius (EUW)
: Well i mean if the guys isnt grouping then you have 4 choices: go 1/3/1 got 0/4/1 or 4/0/1 or go 0/0/5
Or get rekt because you dont get peeled as ADC and you get no advantage pushing the lane that this guy is on.
Scrinnid (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=l2F7PUYH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-02-08T02:35:47.099+0000) > > Nah. If I see somebody is on loss streak I also camp the shit out of them :D If somebody plays Tardsuo then I also camp him because he can get tilted easily like all Tardsuo mains (or vayne mains or riven mains. Hate all of them). "mains" with apostryphies. Since actual riven main will just 1vs2 you
I crap on riven since most of time I play tanky junglers with CC. Like Elise, Vi or Rek'Sai. If I hit E she is most likely dead. Riven cant 1v2 unless she is fed as hell or jungler and toplaner are boosted animals.
Rstonius (EUW)
: Best thing to do is just to follow around the support then, if you can't beat em join em, if hes doing his own thing and splitting a lane or something then go join him as a team, still counts and grouping.
Pushing lanes where we would have no advantage is just stupid. Especially when we had better vision on mid and top instead of bot for example where this stupid support went xd Its just putting entire team on risk because of one dumb fish wanting to splitpush
Yolo Ekko (EUW)
: Intentionally Tilting the Enemy
Nah. If I see somebody is on loss streak I also camp the shit out of them :D If somebody plays Tardsuo then I also camp him because he can get tilted easily like all Tardsuo mains (or vayne mains or riven mains. Hate all of them).
Rstonius (EUW)
: Thank you Riot <3
Had a bad game or picked champion you didnt knew how to play and fed like boosted animal? :P Thats the difference. Today I had a guy in my team that took support. We won bot but then this guy started to go for minions on lanes. I got no peel as ADC and we lost the game because I was the only fed person. I could carry it if I had peel. This guy was not a bad game. Its sad that one person can screw up entire game while one person cant carry a game :/ Just tell me what should be my reaction when I see this kind of situation? Why shouldnt this guy just got banned instead of some random flamer if he refused to come for team fights and decided to farm lanes and could cause flaming? :D
: Flamers vs Trollers/Feeders
Why? Because if riot banned all trolls and feeders, league would be like 1/3 of its current population.
: Dodging
Autofill should be deleted. Just make supports more fun instead of babysitting adc. Why DOTA 2 supports can roam and have different roles instead of only peeling for that adc while League supports are tied to mentally %%%%%%ed adc most of the time? :D
Ninay (EUW)
: Banned for intentional feeding after getting camped.
Its obvious lie. Otherwise half of bronze kids and boosted animals on EUNE would get banned :P
Tifufu (EUW)
: Preach
But twitch and riven doesnt one shot ppl unless they are super fed. Riven is melee while vayne got stealth and range. Vayne shouldnt reach that powerspike faster than all others adc. Just compare her to Cait with 3 items or any other adc. She is way better once she get IE and statikk than anybody (maybe except draven). Her powerspike is way too big and needs to be toned down or other adcs needs buff. Oh yeah and riven doesnt have % MAX HP TRUE DMG.
Ennoraetil (EUNE)
: That Yasuo Nerf
Take away his double crit. His kit is overloaded already so it wont hurt him. Give him better ad scalings. For Vayne just lower her Q scalings or take away her R range inscrease or bonus AD.
: People who blame others
Last game I had graves that forgot to change runes, masteries and summoners. Guess which team played 4v5 because top was doing nothing? Who was to blame? His team or himself for letting enemy top free farm because he was dumb not to check these basic things? That was his mistake and for this mistake he should loose more MMR than rest of his team who played right. Its stupid that MMR only counts on win/loose and not on performance of player. His mistake. His only mistake cost us a game because you cant carry 4v5 when equally skilled. Thats impossible as long as LOL is full team game and single person cant carry games.
DemonikSoul (EUNE)
: FIZZ ULT HUGEEEEE HIT BOX
You want to talk about hitboxes? What can you say about Lux ult?
: Aa Little buff
Good point. Personally I would take away this little fish untargetable because it makes no sense that he cant be pushed by for example Syndra.
Catchdown (EUW)
: I found my true love in League of Legends number 2
She doesnt wanna be boosted. She boosts you kappa.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: The reason why this community is toxic...
Bring back old tribunal. People will handle trolls and intentional feeders. If we cant flame them then at least let us punish them for their behaviour.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Reduce the LP loss when someone is actually disconnected on your team for the rest of the game
Let them leave the game as well without being punished or loosing/gaining LP. Like in DOTA2 (if Riot copied golems then why wouldnt they copy this?). You can leave the game after 5 mins when somebody DC and start a new one. Meanwhile the DC guy gets huge penalty as a countermeasure for exploiting. Its bullshit when scrubs say on boards "hurrr durrr it will be exploited! They will flame somebody to leave!". Just dont be sensitive %%%%s and simply mute them and then report. It wont be exploited if you follow this simple steps but again a big BS happens because ppl cant handle pressure and riot forces whole community to suffer.
Not xPeke (EUW)
: That's not true, lol. You're perfectly capable of playing league drunk and high. I definitely wouldn't know, it's just what I've heard from a "friend" ;) >.>
Even pro play drunk on streams so xD
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jjEWolUy,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:07:23.704+0000) > > LOL. You know nothing about balancing then. Riot balances things acording to high elo players. Not some boards whine. Do homework before saying that they got butchered by boards :P If you think they balance acording to high elo you are the one who is delusional, riot balances across all 3 of this : low elo high elo and competitive play. Shit like akali or kata in s5 was nerfed cause of low elo players and boards whining ,in high elo people laughed at the champs, this season champs like yi and xin got the same treatment.Did you ever see a high elo player complain about devourer or xin or yi?
Kata and Akali were unplayable in high elo and competetive. That was their issue. Not some kids whining in low elo. Devourer made Atk speed junglers only viable option because they were way too good in scaling. It was too OP back then and scaled way too well with fast clear champs. Their control over objectives was also retarded. They also nerfed devourer to avoid situation like "jungler stacking devourer for 10 mins. We dont have jungler for 10 minutes". Without devourer game became more fast paced. If they cared about low elo as much as for competetive, they would gut Kindred way sooner or killed Yasuo/Zed/Vayne years ago. Low elo doesnt matter that much. Even if they buff something that will be good for low elo solo q then it definately will be OP in higher ranks.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jjEWolUy,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-01T18:52:30.475+0000) > > He got high base AD and in early game crit matters a lot. This double crit is only issue with yasuo. Not his penetration but this crit and retarded dmg that he can dish in combination with penetration, tankyness and AD. He can go PD + IE, Mallet, BT and some other stuff, and then he can just 1v1 anyone with his overloaded kit. High base AD my ass, dont asspul things dude, irelia garen trynda jax and trundle have +60 base ad, yas base AD is 55. And no he cant 1v1 anyone, you can guys repeat 24/7 that he can 1v1 anyone as much as you want, but matter of the fact is that many pure duelists+splitpushers can beat his sorry ass, and so could pretty much all assassins before they got butchered thanks to the boards.
LOL. You know nothing about balancing then. Riot balances things acording to high elo players. Not some boards whine. Do homework before saying that they got butchered by boards :P
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jjEWolUy,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-31T04:19:20.048+0000) > > Well even with one item that gives him 60% crit chance its massive power spike. Crit is just a multiplier of ad, if he doesnt buy ad he isnt doing much, the real issue here is PD damage reduction, it was intended as an adc item, however the only champs that buy it are yasuo renekton darius and mundo.
He got high base AD and in early game crit matters a lot. This double crit is only issue with yasuo. Not his penetration but this crit and retarded dmg that he can dish in combination with penetration, tankyness and AD. He can go PD + IE, Mallet, BT and some other stuff, and then he can just 1v1 anyone with his overloaded kit.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=jjEWolUy,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-12-30T12:51:34.038+0000) > > 2 items power spike is the problem. He can get 2 crit items, and then go full tank. That was the issue with tanksuo and its still the issue during laning. How the fuck can you still be in laning phase with 2 items?
Well even with one item that gives him 60% crit chance its massive power spike.
YasuoDude (EUW)
: ^ Worst "solution" to a problem decent players don't face.
2 items power spike is the problem. He can get 2 crit items, and then go full tank. That was the issue with tanksuo and its still the issue during laning.
: I always play to the end actually.
Well i dont want feeders in my team so why should they have right to not being flamed when their bad performance or even trolling is the source of it. Eliminate the source via killing all boosting sites and forbid smurfing. That will help a lot.
: Well, its only silly because people can find out anyway. It would make sense because people on the boards could add those players and shit talk them...
There is a block function.
: What are you people's main?
Kha'Zix, GP, Tahm Kench and Viktor.
: yasuo is stupid
Take away his double crit and he is fine and healthy.
: Again ADC player is oversimplifying and -glorifying his role. I did not say ADC is not carry. He just does not carry alone. ADC carries only if you think K/D is important. And majority of community thinks it is regardless facts. And they never give any reason for K/D/A faith. K/D/A alone tells nothing of situation. ADC is important role, but sad fact is adc players are in general worst team players in this game. They think, like you do, way too selfish fashion due overexagerated view of kills and damage. LIke I said, good ADC is member of team, not self-crowned king of team. Most adcs think they are kings of team and others have responsibility to give them kills.
He cant carry without peel. If ADC gets peeled hard then it wrecks entire team. Thats why you have to focus adc at start of team fight. No matter how underfed it is. That means something. Try not focusing a decent vayne entire team fight and see what happens. What I have to say, you re operating on stereotypes of adc. I know you are low elo and people in low elo tend to act like they know game but if you knew the game you would be higher. Most ADC know their role. They know they are main source of dmg, their dmg is consistent, they dont rely on burst. Thats why they try to survive in team fights and require peel from support.
Kirlin (EUW)
: As I said, there are no shortcuts worthusing, you get what you deserve, sorry. Offenders tend to be offenders everywhere (as psychologists say, not me).
Erm dude? Get cold bucket of water, stick your head in it for couple of seconds and get cool. He was using program for other app. Not league. Either learn to read or stop shitposting :D
xilien (EUW)
: WHAT THE FUCK IS UP shiwah, I found you again Could you congratulate me on my 31st perma? Would you like to read my chatlogs?
: But there is rule you have to work with your team. So if you splitpush whole game when team needs you or you not ward when team needs you to, then you break the rule. Just get over it :D Saying "they can do it themselves" is refusing to cooperate and communicate. Also its being selfish as fuck and dumb as fuck :D League is team oriented game where every role has a certain job that must be fulfilled. Otherwise the odds of winning are getting less and less. Thats how this game is designed. If you want to go play solo, then go some call of duty crap or overwatch
So intentional feeders or "First time x champ" shouldnt be banned because they "try" to win? Off meta is not forbidden as long as majority of team agrees on it. Once again you pick what your team needs. If you want to play solo game then dont play league at all.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: He can Ward himselft. There is no rule, that enforce me to buy a sightstone as supporter. And there is also no rule, i am not allowed to spiltpush all the time.
But there is rule you have to work with your team. So if you splitpush whole game when team needs you or you not ward when team needs you to, then you break the rule. Just get over it :D Saying "they can do it themselves" is refusing to cooperate and communicate. Also its being selfish as fuck and dumb as fuck :D League is team oriented game where every role has a certain job that must be fulfilled. Otherwise the odds of winning are getting less and less. Thats how this game is designed. If you want to go play solo, then go some call of duty crap or overwatch
Ozuraak (EUW)
: Does Winrate make true arguments false? Good to know. So if Faker tells BS it becomes true, cuz he has a high winrate? Nice logic.
Well he is pro for some reason. If he says something considered bullshit its probably troll. He is considered one of the best players in the game so he knows it more than me or you. He cant spread bullshit for some other reasons.
: I do know adc role. ADC players THINK he is only carrying role. That is bullshit, and has never been true. Unfortunately majority of league consists adc players, and kill seeking mid and top players. Tactical players have left the game as every season Riot has made their life harder to please the large but stupid majority. Majority who thinks warding and assist is insult. Only duty adc is to ensure he get farm. That has been true on season 1, and it is true now. On season 1 kills went whoever took it as at that time ADC were part of team, not self-crowned kings of the team. ADC had responsibilities towards supports, unlike now. ADC understood assist is more gold than no assist nor kill, as after kills of enemies, adc got safer farm. BUt, no, I do not understand present day roles defined by community who cannot even ward or understand factual gold gain of this game. No, I truly do not understand the Trump voters either. But apparenlty being stupid is now fashionable!
Lol so you know nothing when you think that AD carries dont carry :D I ve got no problem with wiping entire team as adc when I'm peeled good in team fight. The truth is adc deals way much more dmg than APC or assasins. Their dmg is just consistient. Support duty is to ensure ADC can farm and getting peeled. ADC duty is farm and kill close targets in team fights. ADC got responsibility towards support. They carry him. But apparently being ignorant and speaking before doing research is now fashionable.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: So i go support, stay botlane the whole laning phase, try to help my adc all the time but refuse to buy a sightstone, i do break the rules?
You wont help him enough without vision. You will be camped, ADC will rage and blame you. Well he got the point tho. Its the same as refusing to come to team fights and splitpush whole game when team needs a 5v5 team fight.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: Yeah, your comment is full bs, hope you know that.
You got 30% winrate on rankeds. I bet you know the game from all sides :P Oh wait, that was bs :D If you knew it then you would have at least 50%
: And I do totally disagree giving community abilty to ban as that would totally ruin this game. If RIot does that, support role should be removed. Let make game 4 vs 4 then. As support role is non-existing in communtiy model of game. Actually that support singed would've been good if team or community could understand this game. They cannot. They focus on kills. THey focus adoring adc regardless how he behaves. And condemning support if he cannot geek adc ealive, regardless how adc behaves. Thus his tanking in ranking was due his team mates intentionally losing games, not due his poor gameplay.
You know what ADC role is or acting blunt ignorant? ADC's are carries. They are team's main dmg source like everyother carry. If you leave them alone then they wreck team fights even when they are slightly behind. Carries can get back to game after a single won team fight when they are not focused by enemy. Thats why carry ALWAYS needs peel from support or his team and thats what support role is. Carries CANT play solo during lane phase. They are not designed for it. They are shitty early game but gods of mid-late game. That Singed support denied ADC its early which is very important to be usefull midgame and being able to come back and reach 3 items powerspike faster. Singed roamed all the time not thinking about his team mate and not providing vision. He was just useless and a drawback to his team. I bet they would like to have someone different than a person that is solo loosing one of the most important lanes (for example bot is easy gold if you win it. I mean the turret without buff). Well deserved ban thats all I have to say. If you want unconventional strategies then play Flex with mates.
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ofJvjzEs,comment-id=00150000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-16T04:34:58.613+0000) > > Tell pros that its not must :P Every support on last worlds bought stone for some reason. > It helps win the lane/game and stops your team from tilting. IF you refuse to buy this item when your team asks you to buy so then its report worthy because its refusing to communicate with team which is violation of summoners code. While I tend to buy Sightstone as part of my Core Build in any support I play, unfortunately, I feel that most of the times it's wasted. You said that "*Every support on last worlds bought stone for some reason*"; which is true and the reason is **Vision**. Pro play is heavily influenced by vision control and that is why Sightstone **and** Pinks are a must. But on the Solo/Duo/Flex Queue, people don't give a rat's ass about Vision. How else can you explain the fact that people tend to chase ... err ... follow an enemy into dark areas when they are not playing Nasus? Also, refusing to buy a sightstone when asked is *Refusing to Cooperate*, not *Communicate*. And if the guy playing the Sightstone-less support at least spams his trinket and buys some control wards, you can't even say that he is not trying to win and violating the Summoner's Code. He might not be Vision effective, but he could very well be Team Fight Effective.
Vision wins games even on low elo. Ppl are not dumb as a rocks and when you have vision there is a less chance that they will chase for kill when seeing enemy ambush in a bush. Whats the point of being team fight effective if there are no team fights because they pick you one by one because of no vision? League is about 3 things. First are objectives and securing them, 2nd is vision that allows to secure objectives or setup plays. Flashy teamfights are the last part of it. You cant deny this point. Cooperate means communicate as well. There are different meanings of a single word, and so cooperation is also a communication. You cant cooperate without communicating. You dont need to speak, even actions can be communication.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: So my team tells my "buy item x" and i dont want to, cuz i dont like this item, i should be banned for this, cuz i "refusing to cooperate with team"? Yeah, no. I buy and do what i want, as long as i want to win, its allowed.
As long that team doesnt lose game because of you and dont report you for assisting enemy team its allowed :P Yeah its still refusing to cooperate with team. Just like this singed support case. He refused to stay botlane with his carry or ward.
Wen294 (EUW)
: So what you're basically saying is if you get queued up with 4 premades and they tell you to go fuck yourself it's reportworthy if you don't do so because your team is telling you to do so? Ludicrious. There is a difference between communicating with your team and just doing whatever the hell they demand of you because they are in the majority.
You cant get q with 4 premades on rankeds. Even on flex. Nobody will give a single flying fuck about blind picks. If team says they need tank and you havent picked yet then you should listen to them. Its not solo player game but a team game so if you are in minority then you got to do what the rest does xd Otherwise its refusing to cooperate with team.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kawaii Burrower,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ofJvjzEs,comment-id=001500000000,timestamp=2016-12-14T18:02:50.037+0000) > > You MUST buy sighstone as support. Otherwise you dont have vision on map thus making game harder for your team. Bot is the line that always get camped hard because its free first turret most of the time. I must? Can you give me an official quote by riot, that i am enforced to do so as support?
Check comment above. Thats the same situation.
Ozuraak (EUW)
: Is this for all items in the game? So when i say to you, buy this and that, you have to do? Interesting. Do you have an official quote by riot to prove your point?
If I'm in your team and other 3 team members say "buy this item" then you should buy this item. Otherwise its refusing to communicate with team which is violation of summoner code. Summoner Code is official statement of riot and "refusing to cooperate with team" can be interpreted in many different ways such as this one. If you refuse to work with 4 other ppl then they have absolute right to report you and if you keep collecting reports then you can get banned after some time just for not cooperating with team. Riot as company wont take a need of single over rest of the team. It's team game and its the same case like this singed support guy. He got banned because he roamed all the time, not warded any lane and he left adc alone for whole laning thus making 4 ppl of his team frustrated and receiving reports for not doing what his team needed. If you refuse to ward as support then you make the game harder for whole team intentionally so its banworthy.
Wen294 (EUW)
: it's not an actual must and thus not reportworthy. There are like a dozen of threads about this topic. Yes it helps win lane/game, but it is not and will not be enforced.
Tell pros that its not must :P Every support on last worlds bought stone for some reason. It helps win the lane/game and stops your team from tilting. IF you refuse to buy this item when your team asks you to buy so then its report worthy because its refusing to communicate with team which is violation of summoners code.
RuffioCas (EUW)
: Not that I agree with the guy but the fact is that the nature of bullying is bullies in real life mostly do it for fun and because their families give them little to no attention and when the victim cares about the bully and gets upset over it, the bully enjoys it and keeps doing it until the bully realizes he/she is destroying the victim inside. This is a common case amongst children with low self-trust. They mostly think they are weak and aren't a decent human beings. Cyber bullying is far worse version of bullying bevause let's face it, we are all anonymous. None of you know where I am from, what I look like, how good/bad my life is, what I do for a living, how my mental health is and I don't know yours. This can give a lot of advantage to cyber-bullies(or often referred to as trolls) because they are basically hidden behind their keyboards. Most of them suffer from extreme cases of loneliness, low self-esteem and general anti-social behaviour and they take the frustration of lack of attention and loneliness out of people on the internet because there is literally NO harm that can possibly happen to them. Bullies, most of the times, stop once they are explained that their behaviour can result in the victim being in depression or in severe cases, victim killing himself/herself. You can't change people, nope. It is just impossible honestly and if the company doesn't really care(which I doubt but I don't exactly know) then the best option is to just mute everyone and communicate by signals. Believe me, I have been playing since season 2 and I have never seen someone communicating something useful over text anyway. Except for junglers sometimes giving useful info.
Yeah. Even allchat should be disabled because all ppl do is saying "report x for feed". Maybe thats a way to get rid of trolls and feeders that go on tilt. Community may become a lot of healthier.
: Prove it that its fallacious or it's equally right ^^ How it feels getting rekt by your own arguments? :P
It's not comparing. It's giving another example how faulty your logic is.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: If you were the head of RIOT's development team for a day, what would you change?
Remove Yasuo's double crit, bring back Drafts to EUNE, change Vayne's W true dmg to physical dmg, remove Kled's invincible frames, bring back Kindred W to what it used to be cuz now it sucks, give back Kassa silence (cmon, he has quotes about silence. GIVE HIM BACK SILENCE!)
: While buying a sightstone might be the most effective way of playing support, I think it shouldn't be enforced to buy that. It was not my intention when I wrote this post to ban all players who don't play in line with the meta.
You MUST buy sighstone as support. Otherwise you dont have vision on map thus making game harder for your team. Bot is the line that always get camped hard because its free first turret most of the time.
Smerk (EUW)
: Playing is good, forcing someone to play is bad. And locking ranked system behind mastery system is bad because of few reasons: 1. Mastery wasn't added for games played before system was implemented, so level 1 had same mastery on all champions as rank 1 Challenger player. This will punish veteran players that don't play that much way too hard. It will force them to play 300+ normal games just to get into ranked again, completely disregarding their rank and actual skill, things that mastery system doesn't show. 2. It will punish one trick ponies, some may argue if this is bad, but generally they can play a lot of champions, they just focus on one particular champion, so they have millions of mastery on one champion and rest are low levels. 3. Most important one, it will disable opportunity to trade champions. I have few dozens of champions that I bought for trading and will probably never pick them myself. So they are levels 0-2 based on my luck in ARAM I don't know how that works in HotS, but we don't need it in League as it serves no purpose and fixes nothing
Oh yeah it fixes nothing. Especially issue of retards playing for the first time a certain champion on rankeds. *sarcasm off*. Fix it and then nothing else will matter.
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