Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Korimaxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5qwxxjgc,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-22T06:11:24.455+0000) > > I am saying that your previous behaviour is not null and void because you took a two week forced vacation from the game. > > Okay, let me show how your glorious system would work in real life - someone gets jailed for something serious like drug dealing leaves prison. He goes back to his home and later drives his car, unfortunately he passed speed limit by 50 MPH - the policeman seeing his previous offences (MUCH more significant than this) instead of fining him for few hundred dollars puts gun against his head and executes him. Thats how your system work We'll go with a more sensible scenario that applies to this situation. Said drug dealer was shipping large amounts of drugs in the past. He does his time in prison, and is released. Two weeks later he is caught by the police with a much smaller amount of drugs in his possession. For someone caught with this amount of drugs as a first time offence, they might get a warning, fine, or short amount of jail time. Due to this drug dealers previous offences and known history of drug dealing, as well as the fact he was jailed and warned not to do it again - he goes to prison for the rest of his life because clearly, he has not learned his lesson from the previous offences and warnings and jailtime. This doesn't sound so disproportionate to me personally.
Maybe. But forcing players to repeat EXTREMELY tedious process of reaching lvl 30 and regaining your mmr, angers them even more in long term and creates even more problems. You make people lose shitload of time with that and some money usually. Next time said player reaches lvl 30 and goes on ladder again, he is already quite furious (go from level 1 to 30 and say it was fun, I dare you - it's a damn nightmare) and quite frankly, he wont be able to hold his temper incase something goes wrong. You are obviously a very intelligent man judging from what you are saying but here is what I think - there is truth in both what you said and what I did. Since my main is done for, now I will have to cut through low mmr games on my supplementary account with players who have no damn idea what teamwork is and I will lose part of my skill in process. Lose-lose situation - I lost an account, system achieved nothing
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Korimaxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5qwxxjgc,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-22T06:00:25.168+0000) > > So you are basically admitting that every account that gets 14 day suspension is compromised - even the slightest, most irrelevant thing that could be read as ill-mannered gives you instant banhammer. Well done riot. I don't know who invented this system but I'd have him sacked I am saying that your previous behaviour is not null and void because you took a two week forced vacation from the game. Over time your punishment tiers can drop, and the system will give you those chances back - two weeks is not enough time in any way to suggest you've improved, and being escalated to a permanent suspension is further proof that you have not in any way reformed.
I am saying that your previous behaviour is not null and void because you took a two week forced vacation from the game. Okay, let me show how your glorious system would work in real life - someone gets jailed for something serious like drug dealing leaves prison. He goes back to his home and later drives his car, unfortunately he passed speed limit by 50 MPH - the policeman seeing his previous offences (MUCH more significant than this) instead of fining him for few hundred dollars puts gun against his head and executes him. Thats how your system work
: > Only one of them could qualify as flaming ....which is absolutely sufficient. With your 14 day ban you were explicitly told that you would be permabanned if you flamed again. Then you flamed again. So you got permabanned. What exactly is unfair about that? You were explicitly told what would happen, you were warned not to flame again! Yet you did it anyway. So of course you got permabanned. This should not be surprising to you at all, given the fact that you were explicitly told that this would happen.
What exactly is unfair about that? That it wasn't even flaming. I've never seen anything as oppressive, unfair and inherently broken as current ''tribunal'' which is probably automated. Ok, I am not going to argue with you anymore because of your self righteous attitude and black-and-white point of view (this applies to the guy with red nickname especially). There is no point because you will all defend this system no matter how flawed it is
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Korimaxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5qwxxjgc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-08-22T05:56:01.482+0000) > > That doesn't change anything, and the fact that the last one most certainly doesn't qualify for a ban. Previous maybe. This one not Your argument is tantamount to "Okay yeah, I robbed a bank two weeks ago - but I only robbed a fruit store recently - why punish me for the bank robbery?". That's not how punishments work, nor has it ever been framed in such a way that your previous offences were forgotten about. As mentioned you were given a 14 day suspension with a warning that further offences can and would result in permanent suspension. Regardless of your reason or the fact that the "previous game" was two weeks prior, that doesn't wipe the slate clean, nor does it excuse your actions. You've already mentioned that even the one other game log you've got could qualify - which is justification enough. However if you are unsure of which logs deserved a ban, our player support team will be able to assist you in understanding that. Rather than blaming the system, the other players, and everyone else - it's worth taking the time to reflect on the one thing you can control - your actions, and your behaviour. Taking accountability for yourself is the one thing you are able to do in these situations.
So you are basically admitting that every account that gets 14 day suspension is compromised - even the slightest, most irrelevant thing that could be read as ill-mannered gives you instant banhammer. Well done riot. I don't know who invented this system but I'd have him sacked
Eambo (EUW)
: Keep in mind that this is not a single game that got you suspended: - You have already had two chat restrictions and one 14 day suspension - You had 3 games you were reported for. Timeframe is irrelevant here - 14 days is not enough time to say "I've reformed since then, I can flame now!" As advised earlier in this thread, support are the only ones who can assist you - however they have full access to your chat logs, including the ones you don't deem worthy to post on boards - which are most likely the reason you reached this point. When you received your 14 day suspension you were warned this was a last chance, and you continued to insult and rage at other players - regardless of your motivation, you've continued to show the behaviour that brought to this point. The actions of other players are judged based on their same merit and history, as yours were in this case.
That doesn't change anything, and the fact that the last one most certainly doesn't qualify for a ban. Previous maybe. This one not. And also, I had 2 games not 3. Only one of them could qualify as flaming. By the way tell me - is this system based on computers, not humans? If yes, I have nothing to say - no computer can understand the concept of general ingame situation and context
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Punishment isnt only based on how strong the toxicity was, but also on which one it is. Before it you should've had at least 14-day ban, which should've warned you that the next punishment is the permament ban. first 2 punishments are chat restrictions, next is 14- day ban and last is permamanet ban. you can skip first 2 if toxicity was really strong.
So? After this 14 day stuff I never used any hard flame, offending people or anything. After this you get banned even for simple arguing? How is it fair anyway?
Paladiyum (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Korimaxes,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5qwxxjgc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-22T05:02:39.475+0000) > > What I am asking for is unbanning this cause it was undeserved at all, and if you do so I can just mute everyone in every single game to have absolutely no chance of getting unfair ban again pointless toxic bans are forever no chance for unban
They should at least know that they are banning the victim, not the offender. I was by far the most polite player in that game, if you could see the full logs you would see
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Don't argue with flamers, don't ask for reports and overall you seem to be pretty negative.
GLurch (EUW)
: These boards are moderated by members of the community, not by Rioters, so they can't really help you. If you want to apply for an unban, you'll have to submit a ticket to the Riot Support: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
I understand, and I've already done it. But I need some support from players because reaction should be adequate to action - and this chatlog above, is not even moderately close to simple chat restriction. Also, I am absolutely sure that the players who reported me, did it out of spite because they were hating and flaming me all the game just because enemy jungle was better, and this also is unacceptable
Korimaxes (EUNE)
: EXTREMELY undeserved permaban, I demand moderator's action IMMEDIATELY
What I am asking for is unbanning this cause it was undeserved at all, and if you do so I can just mute everyone in every single game to have absolutely no chance of getting unfair ban again
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