Scoliidae (EUW)
: Look, I read the thread. I think buying chests and orbs with real money isn't worth it for me because I do not like the randomness. If I want a certain skin, I buy it directly. I see your issue, but this is a tiny bit your own fault? If you buy the skin directly, you get exactly what you paid for. No money lost. Same with wards and emotes. It's so rare that you get your money worth in boxes. Because it is gambling after all. I see why you would like to get some OE with boxes. I totally do. But since you already can get some for free every week, they won't give you even more. On a more positive note: a friend of mine got all the ultimate skins from boxes (or the orbs from last event, I am not sure) so if you're lucky, the issue described here isn't even an issue.
Well at least you brought some insight on the matter, and you do make a point. The system works when we're talking about the free chests you get hence you shouldn't get paid content for free and easy to get, but for people like me who would much rather get chests/orbs for the hype of it, it doesn't really work... If I want a specific skin, yes, I do buy it, but I always try to get the orbs and stuff because I 8/10 times I get something that is at least nice if not something I like or want. But they really should come back with the orange essence in bundles. When they first got rid of IP, first event after that I got like 2-3k OE in bundle of orbs, which was amazing because I got to craft a lot of skins. Maybe they should consider adding it to bundles over 2K RP, if not for legendary or epics.
Scoliidae (EUW)
: Even if it is. It's FREE PREMIUM CONTENT man. They don't have to give you anything. If someone came by every day and gave you 1 euro, would you complain he doesn't give you 5?
.... Does anyone read the actual thread? I'm saying to give some OE in bundles of orbs or more for epics and legendary. (The chance of getting a free skin, let alone a legendary or epic, because chests can also give you wards, champions, emotes if I'm correct, is low enough.) So it isn't like getting 1 euro everyday and asking for 5. It's like paying 30+ euros and getting to enjoy not even 10 of the euros you SPENT.
Afelers (EUNE)
: If there is one thing we could still appreciate this game for is the fact that they created the hextech system so that we could get PAID content for FREE. So no, I'm fine however they decide to value skinshards.
Once again, I'm not talking about the chest you get once in a while. I'm talking about getting some OE with the purchase of bundles of orbs and maybe chests. Maybe raise the OE ratio for epic/legendary skins. I had 9 skins, 8 of witch epics, and I had to let go of 4 of them just to make 1 skin. 1/4 is not a good ratio.
: so let me get this straight you purchased a 250 rp orb to get a 975-1350 value skin and your grief is that you can't enjoy that skin without disenchanting 3-4 other shards? you still don't get that the value of a skin shard is still relative to it's purchasing price in terms of rp compared to oe at a slightly better ratio don't you 1350 rp costs 1050 OE 4 * 1350 rp cost shards net you 1080 OE 1* 1350 rp skin is worth 4* orbs which are worth 250rp which is 1000 RP lets say you get unlucky so you go for 5 orbs for at 1250 RP for 1 1350 RP skin Hextech crafting can**** be cheaper for you than buying a specific skin Rerolling will almost always be cheaper than buying that skin but it's at the cost of being random
Once again, I'm talking about BUNDLES, not of singular ORBS. You really don't get my point there's no need for further discussion.
Lαdybug (EUNE)
: > i don't think you realize how greedy you sound by saying thats not enough I see you don't really get my point, I am not talking about FREE skins, I am talking about getting 10-15 skins in ORBS that you have PURCHASED, therefore, you spent MONEY, that you don't get to upgrade to permanent skins because of LOW OE ratio. I am not saying to max it all together, perhaps getting some OE with the PURCHASE of orbs or bundles, and to get a bit more with Epic or Legendary skins. I have been put into the situation of buying orbs and such and getting to disenchant half of more of the skins I received with my PURCHASE, to get one skin out of it. I am, nowhere in this thread, talking about getting free skins for less OE. I'm specifically talking about purchasing (aka: SPENDING MONEY) and not getting to enjoy skins that you get.
I always enjoyed the Hextech feature in League, ever since I first started playing I would've much rather get chests or orbs than actual skins. At this time, I have over 400 skins, from which I think I purchased, in store, not even 100 of them, maybe even less than 50. It was never a problem of getting skins from Hextech until recently. Even after the IP-BE change, they would sometimes give OE within the purchase of a lot of chests or a lot of orbs. Now, not even with the purchase of the 6.250 RP of MSI/Battle Academia you don't get granted OE. And the biggest bundle gives you 25+ orbs (because you can get orbs in orbs), what if, by some extreme luck, you get only skins you like, or like 15-20 skins that you really like (which has happened to me before) and you start off with little to no OE. You have a minumum chance of getting more than 5-10 skins tops with the purchase of orbs.
: because riot wants to make money so they can pay their employees to produce those skins and the hextech system is designed to give players random free things not specific things that players want for free you get 3-4 free shards per month and somewhere between 3 and 10 free shards during every event depending on your play time maybe even more if you get lucky if you reroll thats 2-4 free skins every month if you disenchant half of them you get 1-2 specific skins you want for free this is premium content that costs money which you get for free i don't think you realize how greedy you sound by saying thats not enough compare it to the free stuff you get from any retail store mcdoanlds offers often make you spend 100-200$ for a free big mac some cards for gas/oil make you spend in the thousands for a free mcdonalds meal and here you are complaining that the free stuff you are getting that has no prerequisite of spending money is not free enough
> i don't think you realize how greedy you sound by saying thats not enough I see you don't really get my point, I am not talking about FREE skins, I am talking about getting 10-15 skins in ORBS that you have PURCHASED, therefore, you spent MONEY, that you don't get to upgrade to permanent skins because of LOW OE ratio. I am not saying to max it all together, perhaps getting some OE with the PURCHASE of orbs or bundles, and to get a bit more with Epic or Legendary skins. I have been put into the situation of buying orbs and such and getting to disenchant half of more of the skins I received with my PURCHASE, to get one skin out of it. I am, nowhere in this thread, talking about getting free skins for less OE. I'm specifically talking about purchasing (aka: SPENDING MONEY) and not getting to enjoy skins that you get.
: because 95% of the skins aren't worth having a few months ago i had over 6k essence with no skin to spend them i have 2 rolls of legendary shards that i don't want im rerolling every week 80% of my skins are from rerolls if you want a skin from the shards disenchant the ones you dislike and get it the system is made that you get free random things from time to time if you want a specific skin buy it
But what I really don't understand why are you so against it. What wrong could come from getting more OE, at least 500-700 on an Epic and Legendary skin.
: because 95% of the skins aren't worth having a few months ago i had over 6k essence with no skin to spend them i have 2 rolls of legendary shards that i don't want im rerolling every week 80% of my skins are from rerolls if you want a skin from the shards disenchant the ones you dislike and get it the system is made that you get free random things from time to time if you want a specific skin buy it
Just because it your particular case, doesn't mean it's everyone's. This is my current situation: I have 9 skins that I would like to have, got them in MSI and Battle Academia Orbs(that I have purchased) . I currently have 12 OE. 12. TWELVE. They all cost 1050. When will I get to have 9,450 OE? At least give like 1-2K OE in orbs bundles or stuff like that. The OE ratio is really bad atm.
: it's plenty
It doesn't really go that well because it's not ''plenty''. I have like 9 skins as shards that I like and I would really want to get, but I have like 400 essence, and they all are 1050, and ONE disenchanted shard is 250-300 or less if they are old skins something like that. You'd have to disenchant a lot of skins. And reroll is not actually profitable, since is a literal gamble. I once rerolled 3 epic skins and got an old cheap skin.
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Fðxÿ (EUW)
: Play against her, take a Q from the fog of war that you can't predict & who gonna almost or instant killed you then came back talking. Even Faker who is a respectable pro player since a long time & a lot of pros & streamers said she was clearly broken when she just came out & still talking like that about her. Why do you think she is permaban in LCS or High Elo ? So please just accept that there is a problem with this champ...
I do play Zoe and I do play against Zoe and honestly? I'd take that ANY DAY of the week over any Kha'Zix or Zed or even freaking fed Draven. Zoe has a lot of burst, yeah, but u know what she lacks? Mobility. Stun her once and poof she's gone off summoner's rift for another 30 seconds. She is squishy, and almost immobile. Yeah, she has her R, but that doesn't take her ANYWHERE. Kalista has been banned in Worlds this year 100%, have you seen any complaints about Kalista in solo q? Don't bring in what the pro players do or say in LCS, there has been more Zoe in these last matches I've seen than there has been anything really, lately. Every champion has it's perks and twicks, some less than others. Nonetheless, as I said, I'd take Zoe over any Zed or Kha.
Furianu (EUW)
: How to fix Zoe properly
Okay, this seriously has to stop, all these memes about Zoe nerfs and everything, Zoe is not the only champion that can one shot people. Have you seen a Zed lately? Or a Kha'Zix? That is scarry, not an 8 years old with butterflies and bubbles. A lot of champions one shot, I don't see anybody crying about how lvl 3 Zed full combo is taking half of your life and after 6 ur just dead if he's any good or u can't cc him. Kha'Zix too, hell, even Aatrox one shots people now. But as every other one, you can DODGE some of the dmg, dodge the E, don't get hit by the q, no dmg. It's just how the champion works.
: Bard state
More range on q? Wth, no, just no. Some good Bards actually get some Q's of sometimes that connect to almost nothing, or you're so sure it won't stun, but it still does. Him being able to do that from even further? Nope. The E is unique as it is, I don't really believe there should be a passive

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