: Do I lose a provisional for dodging?
To correct my previous post, it doesn't strictly count as a loss but it will place you lower in the end. Someone who took 20 games to do their provisionals with dodging will obviously not have a same placement as someone with same win/lose situation and zero dodged games.
: Do I lose a provisional for dodging?
It counts as a loss but doesn't affect your mmr.
: Thanks for the contests, hoping for more next time! Congratulations to all. ~~I hope I'd actually win something next~~ {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: Placements 2018
I prefer solo as well. I want my rank to be solely mine. I even played flex alone.
: I hate it when people want to be rewarded, for not being a complete peice of sheit. Thats a way of reasoning that children often hold. I don't know about you, but I hope most (young) adults are above that way of thinking.
: Blue Essence and XP Feedback (Discussion)
tl;dr I like the following features of the new system: earning BE through disenchanting champ shards, earning champs through upgrading them from shards, earning random champs, earning BE from quests instead of getting BE gradually from games. I don't like the following: orange essence is almost impossible to get. I would also like more frequent and more varied quests. I'm a medium veteran player with ~40 champs. >c) It is amazing for new players. Some friends of mine that recently started playing have been flying through champs and essence. This is a great thing, I think. I'm having an old account and around 40 champs and the new system is still amazing for me. I get champions for discounts from shards and I'm more encouraged to buy them, instead of grinding IP and deciding on a new champ I will buy. The new system is much more exciting for me. Still I don't see how they solved the problem with veteran veteran players, who have all the champions. I think they should organize BE shops more, for icons etc to tackle this problem more. >2 - Orange Essence I understand you felt you were losing by giving players so many shards last season, and perhaps you were, and perhaps it was right to drop the disenchant value. But did you have to drop the disenchant value by so much? Now, unlocking a legendary skin is worth disenchanting 5 others, which can take months. This is extremely daunting. And what about someone who has no essence but wants to unlock an ultimate shard? This. I have no idea how to solve this. I just have too little orange essence and I can only earn a limited number of chests. Orange essence cannot be even bought. I think this is a push for purchasing chests and chest bundles. >why not simply give us blue essence along with XP at the end of each game? That would also instill a sense of "double incentive"; that is, even though it might be no more rewarding in terms of BE than the current system, it will FEEL better (at least in my opinion, and that of other I've spoken to), and then there will be two things to be immediately rewarded with instead of one. Furthermore, for players that do prefer delayed drops, there will still be the milestone levels to look forward to. The new system is more exciting for me. Giving BE along with XP would feel more grindy. Instead, they shifted BE towards exciting champ shard getting, disenchanting the same, doing quests. I think they have more quests coming. >it feels like there's less to play for now. I feel like this too sometimes but I think they have more quests coming and more frequently.
nesfir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lsayu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ElbAjKpT,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-01-15T12:52:55.596+0000) > > You are basically self-medicating yourself with league and when you're manic it doesn't work, it will make you tilt and experience extreme emotions. Mania in general is bad for you, that's why you need a correct dosage and combination of stabilizers, go visit your psych, what you're experiencing is not unusual and it doesn't make you bad. Your relationship with gaming is one of validation, not of leisure, which can be problematic. wHAAAT leisure?!?!!?! people that think like this ruin ranked...
What I wanted to say is unhealthy relationship. You can be dedicated to something but not have an unhealthy relationship with it. Clearer now?
Zanador (EUNE)
: Riot simply created a good game, that many people enjoy playing. While i also often support people who speak up for improving the new player experience, i have to disagree with you here. An average player can simply get through his whole life without ever being punished, and so the system is not created to milk normal players. And if by accident Riot created a system that makes toxic players pay for everyone else's enjoyment as part of their punishment, then i'm completely all right with it. What else do you think fines are for in the world? The difference is that a punished player in League can decide to pay or not, unlike IRL. tl;dr: i don't think this was an intentional scheme, and if it is, then it is brilliant.
You are right, I really like your comment. I'm more having problems with how this punishment system changes the ways players communicate (not necessarily in a positive way, or ways), but I didn't talk about that.
RallerenP (EUW)
: >A few months prior to pre season we were playing as a 5 man team with some friends and there was jokingly typed banter with us flaming each other on Discord and a bit in game, just having fun. The next day one of my friends received (someone who haven't had a single punishment prior this from Riot) a ban. I've always been seeing that people are just receiving bans left and right without any prior punishments, but I didn't believe it till I saw that myself. You only get punished if you are reported. The punishments scale on how bad the flame was and previous behaviour. If you use hatespeech (racism, sexism, ect.) a 14 day ban is nearly guaranteed. The next punishment is a permaban and can happen if you friend is even slightly toxic. > I've been wondering, the hell are in game mutes any more? Before the 14 day ban. You can skip these with hatespeech. You get a 10 game chat restriction, then a 25 game, then 14-day ban, then permaban. Every time you are punished the next punishment will be harsher. Eventually, if you are completely reformed and don't do anything toxic the bans will be forgiven, meaning the next punishment may not be harsher than the last though this takes a while. The reason we don't have longer mutes are because they're ineffective. Toxic people who are muted for longer than 25 games have a significantly higher chance of just starting to int instead. > Are we some dictatorial regime where you're with us or against us. No, but your friend was reported. Assuming you only spoke in teamchat it means your friend was reported by someone from your 5 man premade. Riot can't differentiate between if a report is meant or just a joke, that would be dumb. > I never understood why are we comparing words in chat to inting and cheating nowadays, when they are offenses on heavily different tiers and as well it can be resolved quite easily. We aren't comparing them. Normally you get a 10-game chat restriction for flaming, and you get a 14-day ban for inting. If you are offensive enough you can get a 14-day ban for flaming aswell. > I honestly find it a lazy way to solve things and as well as a marketing scheme because players who played and loved the game will play regardless and just make a new account and if they tend to spend money for skins they will be forced to rebuy the skins if they want them again. "Dammit Riot, how dare you accept the money of people who give it willingly!" It's not Riots fault that people keep spending money on the game after they've been punished.
Even so, the system that creates likely circumstances that will make the player want to come back to the game and spend more money does seem like something you're responsible for. At least to some amount. It's not some god given system and concept created out of ether, Riot made it.
: Massive Communication and Punishment Flaw
It does, unfortunately have to do with money. It has to have. Riot is a very proactive company when it comes to making money. Today's behavior punishment systems are not ideal, and we should have more debates about it (that are not some raging douchebag douchebagging the whole team and complaining when he receives his douche punishment). >It's not Riots fault that people keep spending money on the game after they've been punished. Even so, the system that creates likely circumstances that will make the player want to come back to the game and spend more money does seem like something you're responsible for. It's not some god given system and concept created out of ether, Riot made it.
: is it time to quit league maybe?
You are basically self-medicating yourself with league and when you're manic it doesn't work, it will make you tilt and experience extreme emotions. Mania in general is bad for you, that's why you need a correct dosage and combination of stabilizers, go visit your psych, what you're experiencing is not unusual and it doesn't make you bad. Your relationship with gaming is one of validation, not of leisure, which can be problematic.
nesfir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lsayu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=jyT6cVpi,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-15T08:29:46.339+0000) > > Just don't. They are the ones whose attitude sucks. > > > There is always debate around what constitutes freedom to express and what constitutes harassment that is harmful for the game experience of everyone on the team. And there should be, just, I think you can come up with much more convincing argumentation. who da %%%% cryes about flame , you have mute, fk stupid shit rly.....oh well npw its basicaly off-mode chat since bitcdhing crybabies cant press mute.
Whoah hold on, I don't think the problem should be put on people to press mute if they don't want to hear crap. The system is designed to learn what the playerbase constitutes as verbal harassment and negative attitude and then punishes what the majority thinks is not acceptable. That's how it works.
: Stupid system!
>hen leave the game cause jungler don't gank or start to int, how to not flame such players? Just don't. They are the ones whose attitude sucks. There is always debate around what constitutes freedom to express and what constitutes harassment that is harmful for the game experience of everyone on the team. And there should be, just, I think you can come up with much more convincing argumentation.
: Since when is Varus a corrupted teletubby? (about his splash art on scoreboards, etc.)
When Varus came out I was ashamed of his splash art it looked like something from anime (I love anime but it is not the league style). Now when I looked at his splash art I was like holy shit what a god O.O So.... no, didn't work on me.
GotJinxéd (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lsayu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XfE4TqG6,comment-id=0002000000020000000000000001,timestamp=2018-01-12T14:26:48.630+0000) > > You ethnically cleansed Croatia, drove away hundreds of thousands of Serbians in your action called "Oluja" which you celebrate. You burned people's homes. Way to go. Homeland war my ass. It's typical fascism. > > Also, this, because I think you need to read it twice. Thats not true,read about Oluja and then speak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm so freely read about that. However war crimes court declared that Oluja is not criminal enterprise.
Read books and get on with reality not your fantasies and lies. Currently you are supported by the international bullies but just wait it's not going to last forever and then hopefully your horrendous crimes will be recognized by courts.
Spicetake (EUNE)
: When did they announce that lvl 2 and below doesnt get affected????
They did, right upfront. The message was, you have to be nice every year, so your honor will reset at the beginning of the season if you end up higher than 2. You can check the news posts.
: ...bruh you salty? We need a Masterchef Singed skin where his Q is spreading the salt.
OOooooh that's a good one :3
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Seems like an unnecessary amount of moderation. That's why they have a manual report system and it works more than half the time Though I understand your frustration riot do handle the situation pretty well
>it works more than half the time um, what.
GotJinxéd (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WeAreDeath,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XfE4TqG6,comment-id=00020000000200000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T07:14:43.525+0000) > > Yep but Serbs didnt lost the war against Croats. Who helped Croats in that war and what would possibly happen if Croats didnt goe any help? Okay since you want some history lesson i will tell you . Serbians had a lot of weapons,tanks and equipiment. Croats had nothing,just wish for freedom and brave mans and womens. When they attacked Vukovar they attacked from all ways and only about hundreds mens were defending against 1000 serbians... They were attacking HOSPITAL,they did crime at Ovčara,killed and exocuted hundred of Croats ,Hungarians too ,and when we got help from ZAGREB,capital of Croatia ,then we could start normal defending. I was born during war,now i am police officer and i musnt hate anyone. I dont think that Croatians are bad people.
>There was Homeland war. You ethnically cleansed Croatia, drove away hundreds of thousands of Serbians in your action called "Oluja" which you celebrate. You burned people's homes. Way to go. Homeland war my ass. It's typical fascism. Also, this, because I think you need to read it twice. > [{quoted}](name=WeAreDeath,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XfE4TqG6,comment-id=00020000000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-11T16:26:05.146+0000) > > No, as a proud history teacher I am about to become I will learn my students ONLY THE TRUTH about Balcans. As well as truth about Croatian cincentration camps for Serbs, Romas and Jews. Ofc war itself is a crime and Serbs commited some crimes as well, but dont be delusional, if anything, Croats were not victims at all. > > Best regards, > > Atila Tot > -future hiatory teacher
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Yes, did you? Rather than asking stupid question you can ask specific one about what you think I missed
Your post contained nothing to counter the argumentation that was given for removing those items AND it didn't discuss the new vision system at. all. , that's why I wrote that. I was genuinely wondering if you read the article.
: 100% serious. Obviously once I can afford to I'd get back to my favourite tank supports like leona. But for now I have very little choice and just want to improve
Leona is really strong now, it's my go-to when I get support role (I go jungle/support).
: The Island which should not be talked about
>I do realize Riot makes their statements occasionally stating something they can see from their data - but unless that is open data - it becomes a matter of faith. They are soooo not transparent about their data. >replace permaban for permanent Prisoners Island server - why not? Imo they could easily try that.
: This is not new in League playing at night increases your chance of getting "bad team mates" because on one hand, most people are tired when its very late, so they might not play at their full potential, they might troll a bit because they just want to play for fun before sleeping. And on the other hand, you might have drunk, drugged people, or simply kids that are supposed to be sleeping but are actually playing and trying to hide from their parents, which increases the stress level of people since they will be focusing on not getting caught xD. And this is even worst in low elos. If you want to play at a competitive level, dont play after midnight. Just play on a smurf or normal games if you want my advice :D Peace
>or simply kids that are supposed to be sleeping but are actually playing and trying to hide from their parents 24yrs old {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Removing Sightstone and reworking Eye of the _ items is a bad idea
GotJinxéd (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=BreakYourHeadxD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XfE4TqG6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-10T22:07:30.876+0000) > > He wont be banned.. riot doesnt know the language so the insults are not in the system anyway I think its not fair and it must be fixed because its not confortable to play and they do it every single time... They literaly hate everyone who is in European union . They specialy hate Croats because they lost war and they cant forgive it. Riot MUST employ some peple who understand non-english leanguages .
It's your fantasy that they hate Croats because they can't forgive they lost the war. Stop spreading lies. They hate Croats because they were passionately nacistic and tortured and killed Serbs, Romas and Jewish people in camps. I hate kids who write hate speech and other toxic shit in their own language... Just report them, chances are they will still be banned because they're probably acting toxic in other games and people sometimes forget to report.
: If you ask me everyone even attempting to play adc needs to spend some quality time in a custom game practicing last hitting and last hitting under tower to get some basics down like 2 towershots for melee creeps, 1 auto + 1 towershot for caster creeps, 7 towershots for cannon etc. Cs is just that important to gain your lead as a adc, that one item you bring back more than your enemy makes all the diference early and if played right you just snowball from there on.
Maybe they are and they're still making mistakes. Maybe they put a set time aside just for practicing that and then getting some hands on gameplay experience and focus on other things and farming. I say this because that's how I did it, back before I said to myself, no sweetie, you better pick a healthier goal for league for now, you have a 23 inch screen, an office 1cm height and you're dad's reflexes. Thanks dad, for having so much in common with me, even now, first the eyebrows, then your aging hammy fingers. /jk Maybe not. But trying to lasthit at the same time creates confusion and less accumulated cs. That's I why I only hit the most obviest of the obviously-would-miss.
Renold (EUNE)
: 80% WINRATE IN MASTER TIER WOW.
Which sites do you watch them on? Can you recommend some good ones?
Not Amused (EUNE)
: Sick and tired of monkeys at low elo as support.
I play jungle/support in bronze IV and when I get support my team is usually well organized and object oriented, I also make sure to go outside of bot after the tower falls down. tip: play leona. Let your adc farm even if they're godawful at it, give them a chance to learn how to cs.
: honestly does that matter since when was league a dating sim? aside from the obvious homophobes that run about league the rest of us are probably either gay or like me just don't care either way because its not important
Yes, I agree Also this. > [{quoted}](name=Rptro,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rM4ZG6pK,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-01-09T08:16:37.193+0000) > > So basically you want a character that really stand out as gay because right now there is no champ that really screams in your face "I AM GAY"? If you think that if someone is gay you really have to see from outside that's kinda ... Homosexuals look just like normal people you know? They are normal people. > Now with the exception of Rakan and Xayah and Lucian who lost his wife there isn't really much said about the sexuality of the other champs. So I don't like you saying "They are definitely not homosexual because you can always tell if someone is gay from the outside and it would be showing". > And how do you want your new character to be. Do you want him to have a lot of homosexual stereotypes? I doubt that wouldn't be seen as mocking gays.
: So basically you want a character that really stand out as gay because right now there is no champ that really screams in your face "I AM GAY"? If you think that if someone is gay you really have to see from outside that's kinda ... Homosexuals look just like normal people you know? They are normal people. Now with the exception of Rakan and Xayah and Lucian who lost his wife there isn't really much said about the sexuality of the other champs. So I don't like you saying "They are definitely not homosexual because you can always tell if someone is gay from the outside and it would be showing". And how do you want your new character to be. Do you want him to have a lot of homosexual stereotypes? I doubt that wouldn't be seen as mocking gays.
>Do you want him to have a lot of homosexual stereotypes? I doubt that wouldn't be seen as mocking gays. This.
Fathands (EUW)
: So just because they are straight it makes you vomit? How heterophobic of you.
To be honest, Xayah and Rakan romance makes me puke regardless of their sexuality. It's just so..... ugh... eww
: No they are lovers.. everyone was freaking out about it like children when it came out... But more to the point why do you NEED a gay champion seriously what the hell does my champions interest in men or women have to do with me this is almost as bizarre to me as those people who consider gender of the people they play with important if you want to explain it go ahead im hella confused.
There are more examples of heterosexual romance in league lore than homosexual (but apparently there's Varus'). I guess (hope) that this is what he wanted to say. Balancing it out *might* help reaching more gay acceptance + not marginalize gay people thus improve their treatment. **EDIT: **OP goes on to say heterosexuality is gross so there goes my argument, right in the bin.
yaicke (EUW)
: why isnt there a homosexual character since league has such a huge gay fanbase
> [{quoted}](name=yaicke,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rM4ZG6pK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T01:14:09.856+0000) > > homosexaulity isnt a choice but being hetro is GROSS umm... > [{quoted}](name=Fathands,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rM4ZG6pK,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T01:15:27.410+0000) > > Your credebility level just plummeted. Have a bad evening sir. ^
CosmcDusk (EUNE)
: BANNED FOR FLAME BUT I DIDNT FLAME
Can you post chatlogs so that we can see what got you banned?
Cypherous (EUW)
: Homophobic comments are not tolerated under ANY circumstances, they do carry an instant 14 day penalty, the same as racisim, hate speech and telling someone to commit suicide, riot does not tolerate these activities
I am repeating Riot support said it was a false positive.
Cypherous (EUW)
: And how do you KNOW that nobody was offended by it, did you add all 9 other people in the match to ask them if they were offended or are you just taking a guess based on the fact that you don't "think" they were offended because nobody reacted in all chat about it and instead just muted you to report you at the end of the match, i rarely respond to people who i'm going to report because its just not worth it
I am repeating Riot support said it was a false positive.
: that thread belongs to a flamer who is looking for loopholes "but i was flaming in portugese! riot is unfair!"
Err.. I don't think he claimed he didn't deserved the ban in the end. The portuguese bit and the fact that it was long ago was more sort of wishing-he-didn't-do-that than I-didn't-deserve-it.
kmph2mps (EUNE)
: My (risky) way to deal with flamers...
I HAVE to try and do this. Too bad I don't notice or participate in chat anymore, I have sooo much to improve on gameplaywise I just don't even notice it from all the tryharding XD /end of self-admiration
: Feels good
Cheers!
: XP-mining bots in co-op vs. AI games
lol I ran into one group this morning, I couldn't win because there was 3 of them with smite and running into enemies and only roaming in jungle in precisely the same path to one another.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Hextech chests should only drop champion skins, ward skins, summoner icons, not champion shards
Dumdies (EUW)
: Bronze 3 Jungler/Bot LF Duo
Wish I was in EUW...
: i think that riot should send more of that so we can be sure that our reports are doing something.
Well. It also has to do with feedback giving the opportunity to test the system and work out how to get around it.
: Bans and reports
>Isn't it supposed to get a message when someone you reported got banned? Not always, actually rarely. In instances where there was extreme hate speech racism etc, you get the feedback right away usually that the person is banned. Other than that, no, you won't see the outcome of majority of your reports.
: Excuse me? Are you acting like you know more about my situation than I do? I read the reply from the Rioter and I know very well what it said. They analysed my case in detail after I made a ticket not when I got banned by the automated system. The automated system did what I had to do, it caught very offensive words and issued a penalty. After I complained they realized it was a mistake and reviewed my case and found a history of flaming my own brother in my own language. They said that because of the games that I had flamed they considered the penalty well applied even though it was triggered by a false positive. Why does everyone here act like they know it all?
>They said that because of the games that I had flamed they considered the penalty well applied even though it was triggered by a false positive. Why does everyone here act like they know it all? That's exactly what I said. Calm down.
: That is incorrect. I got banned because of the false positive. They just used previous games where I had flamed my brother to maintain the suspensio but I appealed again. It's stupid that bans can be retroactive. Basically what I mean is, you say "%%%%%% %%%got" and no one reports you and you get away and then a year later they ban you because you said %%%%%% %%%got a year ago and they dont want to lift their wrongful ban
They didn't take into account the false positive. It only triggered an inquiry and then they discovered those past toxic games. They banned you because of those. Not counting false positive.
Cypherous (EUW)
: In what context is it ok to repeat what he said to strangers exactly? There is zero reason for him to ever repeat what was said, report calling is absolutely worthless aswell as being reportable and bannable in itself > Lets just say I think you have a rather rigid view on how behavior system is supposed to work, and one that is realizeable but not a good one. Hardly, he has no reason to need to tell anyone else outside of his team what was said, the number of reports doesn't matter in the least, the smart and mature thing to do would be to mute him and report him at the end of the game, not act like a child and try to tell everyone in the game what the bad man said about you because that just gets you reported :P
>There is zero reason for him to ever repeat what was said, report calling is absolutely worthless aswell as being reportable and bannable in itself But in itself it's not worth a punishment of 14 days[. Here is an update of what support responded. ](https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/2fUqddgp-update-on-my-unfair-14-day-ban)It seems he had some history with toxic behavior a long time ago and that's why he was suspended. Support said it was a false positive chatlog. So, it's not bannable after all.
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: Update on my unfair 14 day ban
Does the false positive not count then? Is it erased from the toxic record?
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