: Dodge in Aram?
Its buggy. I disconnected yesterday while in champ select in ranked, during the ban phase. Client crashed completely, had to restart it. When I relaunched it, I was still in champ select, with 10seconds left on my "Select your champion" timer. And I didnt ban anything (it automatically selected "None" cause I disconnected). So, despite my disconnect and the closing of the client, I stayed connected. Its just buggy.
Addrifix (EUNE)
: Teemo name suggestions
I have the name "Téémo" reserved lol. Try something like that I guess
: Shaco clone
Report Faco
: Ideas how to improve some of Varus' weaker playstyles
: So everyone has 1,000,000 mastery points with Galio... {{sticker:galio-happy}}
> [{quoted}](name=Muwatallis,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sj9HFtvU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-23T18:34:32.534+0000) > > So everyone has 1,000,000 mastery points with Galio... {{sticker:galio-happy}} no u
Elýzium (EUW)
: What exactly is this ban for?
I cant spot anything banworthy in here, in full honesty. Sure, it's a bit spammy and you're acting like a child at some points, but you never really flamed anyone, nor did you int. So that's really weird for me. And it's even weird that somebody is at honor level 5 and they get a 14 day ban for this. Its insane. If you were at Honor 5 you must've shown very exemplary behaviour ON A LONG TERM, so getting thrown into the same pit as "i want your whole family ded, get cancer, stupid %%%%ing feeder nub, i go feed now gg idiots" people, is just stupid for me. Like, Im not saying you deserve an award for this game. But jesus, from Honor level 5 to a 14 day ban. For THIS?! Shows that RITO's report system is broken imo. This guy actually needs his ban lifted. Stop trolling him.
Lolzor (EUNE)
: >Elýzium: game was lost the second nida decided to int botlane :D >Elýzium: i dont really care now You don't have to be toxic to be punished. Negative attitude is enough.
> [{quoted}](name=Lolzor,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Yprtq5xz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-24T06:58:04.421+0000) > > You don't have to be toxic to be punished. Negative attitude is enough. That's taken out of context, and can be either negative, or not negative at all. So it should not be reportable at all. Possible scenario: You're a fed top laner, you just killed the enemy top laner, and enemy jungler is coming top. Somebody excessively pings you to "Be careful!" and tells you in chat that they're coming. You reply with: "I dont really care now". Is it negative? No. Did it happen? Probably not. But it could. I've said 100s of times "I dont care" in this or that context, and the large majority of it wasnt anyhow negative. Also, saying the game was lost after somebody started inting isnt negative at all. Some games are lost in champ select, and pointing that out isn't being negative. It's just being observant. Also, a lot of games are lost the second somebody gets really fed (Vayne, Zed, Sylas, Pantheon, Kai'sa, Jinx, Tristana...) if you dont have any reliable way to pin them down (CC and a lot of burst), so yeah. Its not negative. If you consider the above negative I cant imagine how stressful the world must be for you.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: I was hard-stuck Silver for a while, a good half a year of try-harding, and couldn't climb out. Then I paused, played FFXIV for a few months, came back without a care in the world, and climbed to Gold 2 in about a few weeks. I think if you 'try-hard' you make a lot of mistakes. In low elo, it's about who makes the LEAST amount of mistakes. Having close to 0 deaths and high CS is almost entirely within your choice. Dont go for kills where there are none. Just chill, click click click, pop the minions, dont stress about wins and losses (stop looking at your LP completely) and you'll notice that not playing bad = good enough to get to gold.
> [{quoted}](name=Kurotsu,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8kMszfzk,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-23T17:35:52.333+0000) > > I was hard-stuck Silver for a while, a good half a year of try-harding, and couldn't climb out. > Then I paused, played FFXIV for a few months, came back without a care in the world, and climbed to Gold 2 in about a few weeks. > I think if you 'try-hard' you make a lot of mistakes. In low elo, it's about who makes the LEAST amount of mistakes. > Having close to 0 deaths and high CS is almost entirely within your choice. Dont go for kills where there are none. > Just chill, click click click, pop the minions, dont stress about wins and losses (stop looking at your LP completely) and you'll notice that not playing bad = good enough to get to gold. This comment is gold and needs more upvotes. I noticed aswell that when tryharding I couldnt get out of silver at all. Then I started playing by not giving a crap. I didnt watch the minimap at all. I just farmed and splitpushed. Wherever there was a group forming, I ran the opposite direction. By controling the sidelanes only (while not even realising what I was doing), and not feeding cause of not fighting at all, I won a large majority of games and climbed like never before. :)
: What do i have to do to get in the freaking gold
What you have to do to get to gold is duo with me. Gg izi pizi report nunu feed
: > [{quoted}](name=Lucían Main,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fTIIRb5G,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-24T09:06:44.779+0000) > > Why all of a sudden? Karma was played professionally in mid lane for way more than 3 years, and nobody budged. RIOT themselves claim how they hate to enforce champions to move to one position, and that they support flex picks and experimenting. Just how do you plan on saying that while literally limiting everything to one lane? > > > Karma is currently not even close to the strongest supports, and outside of her decent poke, she's practically useless lategame. > > And even if we move Karma to support only. Karma needs good AP ratios, as thats pretty much her core (even as a supp). Karma is much closer to Brand's playstyle, or Vel'koz (who btw are also mages with high AP ratios), than to an actual shield support (Janna for example). > > If you want to force her into support make Q do reduced damage to minions and crap like that. That'd actually help her in the support role even. > > Dont take away the only thing she was useful for as a support, which is a lot of poke harrass and decent shielding. karma has been op since her release its time she got what she deserves, a death, now thats karma :P
How is Karma OP? She has decent poke early on, and that's it. There's at least 10 more viable supports right now... Like, okay, she's not bad or anything, but she's far from broken, or the strongest supp right now. Get it? {{champion:555}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:432}}
: U can replace it with trinity, but it's situational both are fine
> [{quoted}](name=ShacoOrTaco,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=unsgp73K,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-22T00:04:24.555+0000) > > U can replace it with trinity, but it's situational both are fine Actually no. Not both are fine. Trinity is super weak on Ez right now, whereas Iceborn is insanely strong. So you should always go for the gauntlet. The standard build should be (with no variations, and in this exact order): {{item:3043}} -> {{item:3025}} -> {{item:3020}} -> {{item:3285}} -> {{item:3146}} The 6th item is optional, and should be picked depending on what the enemy team is building in terms of defenses. If they've low MR, you should go for {{item:3165}} , as it's going to skyrocket your R and W damage. If they're building somewhat all-round, or going into heavy MR, you should go for {{item:3036}} to boost your Q damage. Build {{item:3033}} instead if they have a heavy healing comp (if there's any of these champions on their team you should always build it: {{champion:16}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:420}} ) As far as runes go; Main rune should ALWAYS be Kleptomancy. Brief reasoning of why the above build is currently by far the best: 1. Muramana gives you great early game spike, is very cheap, and you basically need it to be able to stay mana efficient. 2. Iceborn is going to give you 20% CDR, which is awesome - it also has really cheap items it builds from, and is very cost efficient. It also lets you kite like a God, and adds some AoE to your shots so you can farm much easier. 3. You need Ludens next to get that 40% CDR cap. It also helps even further with waveclear, and adds some nice spike to your ult and W. Great buy overall. (you should buy boots somewhere inbetween - since you have 40% CDR from your Iceborn and Ludens, you ALWAYS want to go for Sorcerers shoes, that will further improve your W and R damage). 4. Hextech Gunblade is awesome, cause it gives you lifesteal, and it has both AD and AP, which is awesome for Ez's scaling ratios. Also adds a bit to your burst with it's active, but it's not that big of a deal. 5. Last item should boost your damage, and is going to be either magic pen, or armor pen. If their team is completely all squishies, so nothing tanky, you can even buy Rabadons here. Thats gonna make you a oneshot beast, but its a very expensive buy. Regards, Luc
: I think Riot wants Karma to be played as a Support, not as a Mid laner. I noticed there isn't even an alternative start besides Spellthief's. So I don't think they plan such a rework to make her playable in another lane, because then, why not ask this for every other support champion as well? You should probably play Support, otherwise, you are taking your chances with a supp in mid lane.
> [{quoted}](name=ˉÐęqûńˉ,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fTIIRb5G,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-24T07:48:37.523+0000) > > I think Riot wants Karma to be played as a Support, not as a Mid laner. I noticed there isn't even an alternative start besides Spellthief's. So I don't think they plan such a rework to make her playable in another lane, because then, why not ask this for every other support champion as well? > > You should probably play Support, otherwise, you are taking your chances with a supp in mid lane. Why all of a sudden? Karma was played professionally in mid lane for way more than 3 years, and nobody budged. RIOT themselves claim how they hate to enforce champions to move to one position, and that they support flex picks and experimenting. Just how do you plan on saying that while literally limiting everything to one lane? Karma is currently not even close to the strongest supports, and outside of her decent poke, she's practically useless lategame. And even if we move Karma to support only. Karma needs good AP ratios, as thats pretty much her core (even as a supp). Karma is much closer to Brand's playstyle, or Vel'koz (who btw are also mages with high AP ratios), than to an actual shield support (Janna for example). If you want to force her into support make Q do reduced damage to minions and crap like that. That'd actually help her in the support role even. Dont take away the only thing she was useful for as a support, which is a lot of poke harrass and decent shielding.
MissJJess (EUW)
: I like support but it gets a bit boring and I only like playing with an ADC I know! Too many crazy ADC's who like to dive in! Trust me you would not want to play with me! I might have to make a video of all my terrible mistakes it would last hours!
> [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-19T08:51:44.974+0000) > > I like support but it gets a bit boring and I only like playing with an ADC I know! Too many crazy ADC's who like to dive in! > > Trust me you would not want to play with me! I might have to make a video of all my terrible mistakes it would last hours! I enjoy playing with everybody with a positive attitude, which you seem full of. :-) We all learn, and we all do stupid mistakes now and then. Who am I to judge. Im often a bit insecure about playing with random supports also, but positivity usually helps. I just tell them to pick something they're comfortable on, or is really straightforward (Im talking about you {{champion:25}} ), so I can do my thing without worrying about them going too ham, or not following up on engages. I love support cause you have a lot of time at your disposal to properly learn the macro aspect of the game, since you dont have to waste your braincells tryharding to last hit. It's also good when I want to take my brain off things. But other than that I try to avoid it, since as you said, it's sometimes hard to trust the ADC, especially in low elo hehe. Regards, Luc
MissJJess (EUW)
: I tried it twice and 1st time not so bad 2nd time was awful I think I am support forever :(
Thats okay Jess, practice makes perfect ;) I was scared of moving to other lanes from support for a while aswell, but once I mastered a few champs in the top lane, it started feeling great, and very satisfying to play! Shame you're on EUW, otherwise we could've played a few matches together. :) Regards, Luc
MissJJess (EUW)
: I thought Jax was complex to play so I have never really thought about him, I have played Kled in ARAM and did not enjoy it at all! I have never played {{champion:58}} and know almost nothing about him.. I was thinking Fiora or Riven because I think they are getting buffed next patch? I am prob wrong about that!
> [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T10:40:08.174+0000) > > I thought Jax was complex to play so I have never really thought about him, I have played Kled in ARAM and did not enjoy it at all! I have never played {{champion:58}} and know almost nothing about him.. > > I was thinking Fiora or Riven because I think they are getting buffed next patch? I am prob wrong about that! Here's a few champions that are pretty easy to pick up, and offer quite fun gameplay, each in its own way (in case you decide to throw Pantheon away): {{champion:36}} - Just annoying really. This guy scales insanely well; he's pretty much unkillable lategame. Not extremely flashy, all he does is run around throwing axes and being an asshole overall, but he's extremely strong and easy to play. Good when you want something to take your brains off things. Insanely tanky. {{champion:24}} - He's actually not hard to play at all, and right now he's in an insanely strong spot. When you play him just remember, that early on, you're weak. You dont want to fight much until you get 2 items, unless an opportunity comes (enemy mispositions, overextends or you get a gank from your jungler). What you want to do is press E to start dodging, then use Q to hop on top of your enemy. After it, E will activate and stun the enemy, so you can freely hit them a bit, then disengage. {{champion:133}} - This is one of the typical top lane bullies. Ranged champion that usually has an ADC build, with oneshot potential, and a lot of harrass in lane. Pick her if you want to be an annoying asshole and a bully. She's not a good teamfighter though. You just wanna roam, 1v1 and gank mid laners / junglers. {{champion:83}} - The ultimate pusher. Doesnt care about the game at all, he just sits in his lane pushing bit by bit. Has 1v2 potential when his ult is up, and is a very strong laner, and splitpusher. Pretty immobile though, so usually dies a lot. But he doesnt care. He just pushes. {{champion:23}} - We've all seen the angry viking oneshot people, dive turrets, and run away smiling. Very strong across all game, especially for splitpushing and 1v1, but can be countered really hard by crowd control. Also, he's kind of an asshole aswell. {{champion:58}} - Lane bully. Very strong early game, easy to set up ganks, decent mobility. Practically all you need in a champion. Also, he's really easy to play and has decent sustain. Should try him. I'll add some more later hehe. Regards, Luc
MissJJess (EUW)
: I never took Electrocute.. I did Conq as thats what I found on a Pantheon guide, I am not very good with runes. My usual tactic is to build up stacks and W quickly Q and normally E because I panic that I am going to die! I am prob a bit too pasive and try to focus CS except that game vs urgot.. dont look at that one! I also always have taken teleport, I thought it was the thing to do at top lane lol. I can prob get some footage though it would be quite embarrassing if you wanted to see!
> [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T12:12:13.225+0000) > > I never took Electrocute.. I did Conq as thats what I found on a Pantheon guide, I am not very good with runes. > > My usual tactic is to build up stacks and W quickly Q and normally E because I panic that I am going to die! I am prob a bit too pasive and try to focus CS except that game vs urgot.. dont look at that one! I also always have taken teleport, I thought it was the thing to do at top lane lol. > > I can prob get some footage though it would be quite embarrassing if you wanted to see! Give Electrocute a try, you wont regret it! It's much more agressive oriented, and overall better for early trades. I think it's way more powerful than conqueror myself. As far as summoners go - you're generally supposed to take teleport only on very passive, split push oriented top laners (Nasus), or champions that you want to use the teleport to help other lanes out (Shen is a great example of that). For everything else, take ignite. Especially in soloqueue. On Pantheon even more so, since you rely on fighting a lot and killing the enemy. An ideal trade with Pantheon would be started one cast away from your passive proc (so before your bar turns red); that is because you generally open your rotation with W. After that, the bar will turn red and you will use it on your Q, which will deal enormous damage to the enemy. After that, you cast E, while slowly walking backwards, away from the enemy to safety. But engaging with W while your bar is red is fine aswell for a beginner, since it procs Electrocute even easier. Add me on Discord if you'd like, it's easier to talk there: Topgun#0222 Bring that Pantheon out and make 'em fear you! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} Regards, Luc
MissJJess (EUW)
: Oh wow thanks for the reply, previously I have been playing Akali mid lane but since the nerf I no longer enjoy her, and I think I would like to move away from assasins for something more tanky and able to take it to the enemy a bit (I play Naut as a support for ranked) which is why I went for Pantheon but I am not doing as well as I hoped!
> [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-09-17T11:41:36.511+0000) > > Oh wow thanks for the reply, previously I have been playing Akali mid lane but since the nerf I no longer enjoy her, and I think I would like to move away from assasins for something more tanky and able to take it to the enemy a bit (I play Naut as a support for ranked) which is why I went for Pantheon but I am not doing as well as I hoped! Pantheon is an outstanding champion, especially if you enjoy lane dominance and dueling. I'd have to watch you play to be able to really point out the issues you are having with playing him, but here's a brief guide on how to do it properly: 1. Take the right runes - Electrocute works wonders on him, as it's really easy to proc. I would say picking Electrocute as your main rune, and going for Precision as secondary tree (to get health back once you kill enemies, and to help you execute them better). 2. Be agressive. - Pantheon's level 2 powerspike is probably unmatched in the top lane. At level 1 you will want your Q leveled up, at level 2 you will want your W. The idea is to use your W to gap close to the enemy to stun them, then tap Q afterwards to deal massive damage to them. Continue by autoattacking to proc Electrocute, then back off. After level 3 this becomes even more apparent - you do the same, but after your Q you also use your E to block any incoming damage they might throw back at you after their stun wears off. This way you practically cannot lose trades, and everytime you go in your opponent will lose almost half of their health bar. 3. You're not a farmer, you're a warrior. This is the most basic rule of low-elo Pantheon I had to learn to really master him. Pantheon doesnt care about cs'ing. He just wants to fight. Bring ignite to lane and fight all you can, and you'll see just how strong he is. Just make sure to keep the bush warded for any incoming ganks - there'll probably be a lot since nobody can really 1v1 you ;)
MissJJess (EUW)
: Top Lane
> [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-17T09:46:30.952+0000) > Nasus - He was ok but a bit boring > Mordekaiser - did not like playing him > Pantheon - so much fun but I am bad with him! > > I got beat bad by Urgot while playing Pantheon so I kind of want to try something new > Riven - I was told she would be too hard for me > Teemo - He looks cute and fuzzy :P > Fiora - never played as her > Nasus actually is boring, yes. It's just a farm and split push scenario until the whole map collapses into one lane. Teemo is actually amazing; he's very easy to lane with, and if executed well, a solid splitpusher and teamfighter. I'd say keep onto him. And he doesnt really have many counters in the top lane either, which is great. Fiora is amazing too, but takes a bit to learn properly. She's great at dueling, which is fun stuff. > [{quoted}](name=MissJJess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rwG1LyTI,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-17T09:46:30.952+0000) > Who would be a good champion to try? I'll need some more information here - do you mostly want to 1v1 the enemy top laner and pressure him by killing him over and over?; Do you want to splitpush and play alone by just destroying turrets and not giving a crapper about what goes on elsewhere on the map? Do you want to lane on top as a disguise, but really provide support coverage on all other lanes, so you stall your lane into a neutral scenario, while helping your team win mid and bot lane and transfering that into a victory? Do you want to excel in lategame teamfighting, or do you prefer early game power? Do you prefer tanks / assassins? Safe champions / lane bullies? Tons of opportunities. I can give you a brief overview of each top lane champion if you'd like, but I'll wait for your response first, to not waste my time writing it if you wont even see it lol! Regards, Luc
: How to learn other roles than support?
Add me in-game and we can play together; I can show you around a bit. My ign is: Skinz
Rioter Comments
: Keep running into bad starts, mood sours almost instantaneously.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lucían Main,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Y0KmLjo3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-13T11:25:55.329+0000) > > I'll add you on my other account once I get off vacations (probably friday), and we can play a few. :-) Not sure if Im the best adc eune, but I got a positive attitude and always play to win. Hopefully that'll do the trick ^.~ Positive attitude is a great start :D I will go on vacation sunday this week so maybe we have saturday to play, no stress tho if it doesn't come together, any other time after that works!
Sure thing! I'll add you and we'll get on from there! ^.~ And dont worry, Im not all that bad either... {{sticker:draven-pose}}
: Looking for an ADC to climb ranked with
I'll add you on my other account once I get off vacations (probably friday), and we can play a few. :-) Not sure if Im the best adc eune, but I got a positive attitude and always play to win. Hopefully that'll do the trick ^.~
Nevlu (EUNE)
: Thank you a lot mate! Appreciate it. I already figured out my main; Gnar, but I'll for sure play some of these, maybe Trynda I was thinking. Thanks, <3
> [{quoted}](name=Nevlu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rsexEero,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-08-13T10:03:58.159+0000) > > Thank you a lot mate! Appreciate it. I already figured out my main; Gnar, but I'll for sure play some of these, maybe Trynda I was thinking. Thanks, <3 Anytime Nevlu! If you ever need any further help just let me know. :-) Gnar is a great champion, but it takes quite a while to learn properly. Me personally, I usually fail on him completely. Obviously it's a very strong laner, with nice range and poke, and with potentially pretty strong tankiness. Although I feel like he really needs the team's cooperation to shine, which is where most of the champions I noted down kind of out-trade him. Also, if you miss your ult in teamfights you're kinda irrelevant, as it's pretty much what keeps gnar somewhat popular. If you stun 4 people in a teamfight, that's unforgetable though, and you pretty much solo won the fight. Be as it may, do give him a try and then decide on your own later whether you want to stick to him, or you want to pick something else. Just beware of the counters, some champions can give Gnar a pretty hard time ( we know you're here Irelia {{champion:39}} ) Go Gnar, go! {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
H1SD (EUNE)
: Friendly reminder that the boards can't lift your ban
You're actually wrong on this. This guy had his ban lifted earlier, after the yesterday's post on the boards: https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/HW0W1Uln-suspended-for-trolling-in-bronze-d-d-d Dont believe me? Check his op.gg - he's back in game ;)
Nevlu (EUNE)
: Need help with finding my main
> [{quoted}](name=Nevlu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rsexEero,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-12T18:28:38.420+0000) > > Hello everyone, I'm literally desperate because I've been trying to find a main for literally weeks now and I still don't know who to main. I like Twised Fate a lot, but I just don't enjoy the fact that you should roam with your ult and also you can't carry with your damage like you could with other champs. So let's say I want to main someone that has got good damage (good enough to carry when you are good at the champ), is fun to play, doesn't have a big banrate (lower than 10 or 5%), preferably is AD and is played at the top lane. Thanks for answering in advance. You can't go wrong with: {{champion:36}} - Dr. Mundo Pros: No mana (so you dont have to recall just to be able to stay in lane cause of mana drains) Lategame raid boss (if they dont have a champion specifically designed to burst through tanks, you might even be able to pull off 1v5s) Not very prone to being ganked (generally you dont push very hard, you're pretty fast, you got slows, so you're somewhat safe from being ganked) Doesnt need to build any damage items at all to do pretty serious damage Cons: Can be kited by good players if left alone without the backup of his team Youre not going to be the one doing most of the damage - you're just soaking it in and waiting for everybody to drop dead to your ADC. {{champion:80}} - Pantheon Pros: Stupid strong 1v1 potential (if played right there's not a single top laner that can outduel you) Has ult to get back to the lane or to roam to mid / bot (though you've mentioned you dont like roaming with TF - just use ult to get back in lane instead of TP then) Easy to set up ganks for your jungler Very straightforward playstyle and doesnt require too much skill Cons: Ticking timebomb - Pantheon falls off pretty hard lategame, and does not do very well in teamfights. Which means pressure is key - the current meta is actually set up for this perfectly. But you want to fight all the time with Pantheon. Ignore farming. Just poke and fight. You want to pressure them really hard early on, because you're practically unbeatable in 1v1s. Can be somewhat mana hungry early on, sometimes forcing you to back early (but if played right you'll only back after getting kills in, so you're backing pretty much at the same time as the enemy is) Is getting reworked, so I cant really say if hes gonna be just as strong. Can be counterpicked, especially with ranged top laners who'll poke you out of the lane and you'll be unable to engage. {{champion:23}} - Tryndamere Pros: Insane damage Very strong duelist (close to unbeatable after level 6) Very strong splitpusher No mana Cons: Whilst its a very simple champion mechanically, it requires some time getting used to - you win through splitpushing and macro game with him, not the classic teamfighting. Can be kited somewhat easily by certain champions, and is rather susceptible to cc (stuns will kill you pretty fast) {{champion:126}} - Jayce Pros: Good duelist Is partly ranged, so he can hold his lane against even the most annoying champions ( {{champion:133}} I see you ) Has a pretty good way to disengage if required Tons of damage mid-game Can snipe people dead from afar (really high range on his snipe) Built-in mana regen on his W passive Cons: Somewhat hard to teamfight with, falls off lategame (not as hard as Pantheon, but still, does) If you fall behind you're gonna be pretty useless for the rest of the game Hope this helped - all of these are really viable, suit your description of what you're looking for, and have pretty low banrates (Pantheon might change though). If you need any more help let me know. Regards, Luc
AlixMason (EUW)
: Any champions that can fight off jungle ganks ?
> [{quoted}](name=AlixMason,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=VHW0FlaA,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-11T15:22:44.949+0000) > > So basically I played alot of bot games and my main is ash/darius but both are pretty weak against jungle ganks and I want to survive atleast 2 minutes in game Any idea which champion is good against jungle ganks ? Which lane do you play, and what role do you prefer to take on in the team (tank, damage dealer, cc, utility support...)? There's a lot of champions that can get away from ganks pretty safely, and there's also a few champions that are generally never ganked because of their 1v2 potential. Let me know what you're interested in and I'll give you a mini-guide on how to play around the ganks ;) Regards, Luc

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