: TFT in a nutshell
Its RNG.2 glacials is like 20%.6 glacials i believe 45%..So its RNG if its stun or not.Is all about luck at this point. Same with yordle.60% 6 yordle.Its RNG.This is why TFT is pretty shit.Cuz is based around RNG.They have to change this somehow.
: [TFT] Assassins are insanely overpowered
Why ppl downvote this lol.What kind of…"smart ass players "are on thsi forum. Assasins are the most broken shits on TFT.I tried a lot of combinations and assasins are the most op.
Î Ram Î (EUW)
: TFT is too RNG
TFT was Always RNG...if they dont fix it it will stay like this forever.There was a smart guy tho that he said "skills".Made my day that poor little guy that have no idea wtf is talking about.
: LOL no... A mode that still has the eggshell on it's ass can't replace the esports-giant that league became. Maybe in 5-10 years, but not even then, it's just a flavour of the month game-mode, nothing much. People will eventually get bored of it, and it'll die. - and if not because of the boredom, I'll tell you why. TFT was so successful because first of - it's new, doesn't require any mechanics, it's CHILL. They'll introduce a ranked mode, that obviously everyone will spam, because we, as a species, are competitive by nature. SO what'll happen you ask. The mode, that's biggest ace in the hole was the fact that it was soo chill, stress free, will get a freaking ranked queue. End of story. + the bugs and the list goes on. It doesn't smell like a success story to me. We'll see.
PRo stage is boring.So really who cares that mutch about it.More then that solo que is pretty shit at the moment.And im sure you arleady know that.They %%%%ed up s9 really badly. More then that mostly "nerfs" are done based on pro stage again thats why solo que become pretty shit at the moment+we all know the begin of the s9 with reset.I do believe TFT can have a bright future if they focus on it and make it better. And you know why it can become better?Bcs its not a team game.You win on your own strenght so no frustration like solo que.About boosted monkeys and shitty teammates. All they have to do is to make TFT less RNG and voila.
: TFT has nothing to do with LOL. Why should a lvl1 player that didn't even complete his tutorial game in league of legends, who reaches diamond+ in TFT ranked and lvl 300 while owning all champs - be allowed into ranked queue for example ? He literally doesn't even know how to move in league of legends. He can't use his summoner spells, he will build tear on God damned Gnar to ult faster. What are we even talking about ? TFT should be in a different client / or in the browser, it has nothing to do with LOL - hence shouldn't give you rewards usable in LOL. Period.
I agree.But to me it looks riot tries to replace League with TFT.Because obviously League especially solo que seems to go down.
Wickedlike (EUNE)
: How about a TFT report system for all the flammers? Someone legit had curse words on a script and it played for the whole game or i was forced to mute everyone because of one toxic player. And on the exp topic yeah it will be abused at the moment the only way to stop a TFT game is by going afk.
I think if you toxic...you can report them.And they get punished anyway.So thats not even close a problem. I dunno why people still cry about toxicity when you can easily mute evryone and play your game.And toxicity is bannable...Easily.
: Tft is really exploitable by AFKers and botters so unless they come up with a system to prevent it, it'll be just an afk funmode
Yes but i waste 30 mins of my time playng a game..and not even getting rewarded for it.Something must be done about it.
: it's an obvious joke, dont be so sassy
Rioter Comments
: i just had the best ranked solo/duo game in my entire life
You godd.So whats your elo?{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Dewritoes (EUW)
: ah yes, because if my ISP chokes, it's my fault and i should be punished for leaving the game!
Dont play League.If you know you have problems.
: Change HP bar color in TFT's carousel.
You know people should complain about RNG and stuff not this kind of "coulours".Especially that when you pick...when you wait in that circle you are in an Golden little circle so its not that hard to see. I want people to talk about RNG changes...skins or this thinks are not the problem here.
: What's Your Favourite TFT Champion?
: If u lose as ADC with 20 kills u have a super unlucky game or u suck
I played like a god those games..Thats why i got 20 kills.But 1 simple {{champion:238}} or {{champion:105}} could delete me...even if they were behind.I had no peel no 1 care about me so i have to deal with them myself. Adc cant deal with assasins..not alone.
: Idk where to start, but let me add my points; It all depends on elo. In high elo ADC has higher impact, because players play safe and farm well to scale up. Most of these games are like farm, fight for an objective and push for turrets. In low elo, there is no concept of play safe or farm well, which makes ADC to have less impact-as they often die every few mins. They get behind so easily and any gank is most likely to result in a kill. This puts supports in awkward position, as they have to compensate for the damage and so many prefer to play mage supports(including me) and try to stop feeding by adc/stomping of lane by opponents. Also, a big difference between high and low elo is map awareness; most of the roams in low elo ends up in kill, because adc players push despite supp/jg/mid pinging them to fall back. This makes the level, item difference between bot lane (supp also suffers ) and opponents grow larger and larger, while in high elo players make sure to keep up with level and items because they try to avoid pushing blindly/during ganks. That is why I wrote in Gold-Iron (from my experience) bot lane has no impact in my post.
High elo is where people care more about carries.Thats mean adc.Yet high elo you get sometimes someone with brain as support. Even in high elo people play {{champion:99}} {{champion:63}} support so there is no help for adc to carry.In low elo people dont give a damn about adc.Thats why is hard to carry. As you said low elo to carry as adc is horrible and very hard.Thats why botlane have 0 impact there.In high elo however...if you lose early you lose the game. Bcs in high elo like chalenger people dont throw as mutch as low elo.So its harder for you to carry.Adc no matter what elo it is...without a team you dont carry. A main top that plays {{champion:24}} or whatever bruiser or midlaners or even jgl that go dmg...they can carry alone.Adc..even feed cant carry solo without relyng on their team. This is why adc is not op and it will never be.Its way too mutch team reliant.
: Bot lane is op role, a role that makes 2 guys ahead if they win lane and give their jung free drakes if they get priority can easiliy unbalance games
You never played against a feed {{champion:24}} or {{champion:39}} ?? A 20 0 adc can lose the game to {{champion:266}} 3 0... With 20 kills you can lose as adc...With 4 kills you can win as a bruiser or midlaner.
: I counted the top 25 EUW challenger players once and there were: 1 toplaner 7 adcs 4 junglers 6 midlaners and 2 supports: WOW TOPLANE HAS SOOO MUCH IMPACT IN CHALLENGER AND ADCS ARE SO UNDERPLAYED ITS AMAZING
PLAY ADC GET ELO.High elo you can play adc cuz people dont shit on you.Yet they still struggle.Youre not chalenger buddy.Majority of those chalengers are smurf players.There are like 100 at max chalengers.Most of them try different roles. So you gonna keep talking shit yet you prove nothing.Im waiting buddy.Go play adc in plat and climb asap. Check 100 places of chalenger and see how many midlaners jgl and top are...In top 10 only 2 adc and 1 of them is a pro player..Until 25 is another pro player. This is %%%%ing chalenger dude...And yet not so many adc.Play adc get to chalenger if is that op then we talk about it.
: Then tell me why there are more ADC mains in challenger then toplane mains if its soooo bad. Tell me why a pro player said in an interview that he could Int in an LEC game and it wouldnt matter much because his lane is not doing anything at all. Tell me why there are less toplane mains the higher you climb in Elo but Support and adc players actually increase? Not because adc is a sh't role obviously.
Where the %%%% you saw that??' Main adc dont even play adc in lower elo.Cuz is full delusional players like you.
: And good thing you can climb with GP let me tell you something EUW Solo que actually is alot harder than EUNE solo que because we got overall more players and probably better players. And the fact that you can't climb abusing klepto Ezreal and Draven on ADC at the moment is just really sad xDDD Also your playing GP the bully that wins lane for free by spamming his barrels and Q on cooldown while being impossible to be engaged not that hard to win lane with GP xD
1.Im from euwest.I got diamond there too.Not with adc ofc cuz is crap. 2.You sayng gp is strong??You a big moron.You dont even deserve p2.Sad riot doesnt do their job honestly.Thats why ranked is %%%%ed.GP is pretty mutch a %%%%ed Champions...if you think gp win lane...dude...you got boosted. 3.Ezreal klepto???Dude...play %%%%ing adc and win already.Im waiting You know people like you with too mutch big ego Always say "jgl is op" mid is op" adc is op" yet they dont even try that role. Stop eating shit...go play adc and prove me is op.
: Its funny how only adc mains think that way. And don't tell me a adc cant 1v9. Sivir KaiSa Draven and Vayne can easily solo win games when even a little ahead.
You mad cuz you cant handle the truth.Drop your ego and you will learn the game.Accept the truth or keep being delusional. Bot is 2v2 not 1v1.If you dont believe me ask higher elo players.That dont even main adc.Even them will tell you adc is really crap at the moment.You go solo que get autofill supports..playng dmg and dont even give a %%%% about helping their adc.YOu think you can carry…1V9 ADC??Youre sooo %%%%ing delusional dude. You play top...and cant climb really...I started playng {{champion:41}} to get elo...cuz adc is too heavy af. Go ahead..adc is op as you say.Get elo.Im waiting right here.
: First off Irelia and Jax are mostly banned and Mordekaiser is really really easy to kite and you can buy QSS to not being forced to 1v1 him. Second off Diana is the biggest garbage assassin at the moment. I never said that midlane has no impact infact midlane is high up there with the jungler but not over botlane. But saying toplane has more impact is bland lie. The adc still has the highest potential to solo carry games because he gets double the feed when he wins botlane and if you position right and outplay your oponent and have a good support you literally become unkillable. The enemy has a zed? Lulu polimorph. If not lulu? Karma can movespeed buff you to oblivion and help you oneshot him. If not Karma? Blitzcrank Alistar and Thresh can perma cc him. Don't talk your role down when its the most powerful role in the game. And Irelia and Jax can only solo carry when they get hyperfed which is rarely in the current state of toplane.
{{champion:39}} {{champion:24}} get ban cuz they strong and can 1v9 a game.Adc cant 1v9.Is impossible as adc to 1v9.You need a team.Its solo que...why you think even higher elo players dont wanna play adc in low elo.. You dreaming dude...Adc was never impactful into the game alone...Wtf youre smoking.
: Botlane in season 9.
LOL.People really believe this...Maybe thats why solo que is %%%%ed up lol..People that really believe botlane have such impact shouldnt even be allowed to play solo que. How the %%%% is botlane so impactful??I lost games with 20 kills and couldnt carry cuz i didnt got a team to give a %%%% about adc.I won games vs full feed botlane cuz i knew bot is pretty shit at the moment. Well..90% are stuck in silver so ofc they believe bot is op..Well yeh..
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: LUL.Maybe thats why ranked solo que is so %%%%d up...Cuz people like you are allowed to play it.
Dude...lets see your logic.Then i hope you wake up or keep sleeping. If you say is not RNG.Then how the %%%% from 8 people only 1 gets lv 3..I had this game where 1 guy won bcs he had 5 lv 3 champs… I couldnt even get 1 and i got 2nd place i lost bcs of him.No one else had lv 3. If you roll at the begin..its RNG bcs you need to drop same champs.If you roll you wont have income.If you roll after you need more RNG as 1 gold Champions are more hard to find. Where is skills????Is skills when you drop 2 tears at the first minions??? Is skills that enemy gets full lv 3 champs..and you cant even get 1 even if you play better? Im done...i tried to teach you.But you cant teach dumb people facts.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=00010001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T14:45:19.649+0000) > > I accept when is talking about skills.Not about a card game. > > TFT is like poker.You cant see the truth?Or just hurts you accept it? Yup, ti's like poker. There are the good ones, and the bad ones. RNG is involved, skiil too. Unksilled players blame the RNG.
LUL.Maybe thats why ranked solo que is so %%%%d up...Cuz people like you are allowed to play it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=000100010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-03T21:48:22.050+0000) > > Dude why people like you cant accept the truth???? > > Like last game i lost the game even tho i was 8th place and then i slaugther them all and got 2nd place..and the 1st place guy had %%%%ing 3 lv 3 Champions.. > > Me just 1...If you dont think this is rng my friend...play something else.Im telling you the truth. Can't you accept being bad and doing mistakes?
I accept when is talking about skills.Not about a card game. TFT is like poker.You cant see the truth?Or just hurts you accept it?
MadBaron (EUW)
: TFT: Is this the most noob (but consistent) strategy?
I couldnt get lv 3 5 games in a row..I guess youre "skilled"LOL. Its rng..i did the same as you.Rolling at the begin so badly and yet...nothing.I won only 1 TFT as 1 place from ...25+games.And i do have some nice strategies yet..i end up going against players that have 3 4 champs lv 3 and me barely get 1.
: TFT RNG GAME
Definetly not RNG to pick the same champ and lv up.Or get better items.Obviously its skills.LOGIC. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=0001000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-03T18:59:51.025+0000) > > 1 hp???I had 2 garens all the %%%%ing game.I couldnt even bring to lv 2 immagine 3.. > > Enemy from 8 people 2 players had LV 3 for 3 Champions.And i wasnt even close..What 1 hp lel.I wont make it in time. > > We were 4 people left..I had 2 hp.And still couldnt get 1 %%%%ign garen for lv 2.Immagine..NO RNG SKILLS OBVIOUSLY. > > If you roll you use gold and maybe you dont get shit.If you dont roll its all about rng if you get the champs.I had 1 player that the guy did lv 3 in the first rounds..Ma %%%% off lel.Evryone on forum said is rng...why some "pro" people believe TFT is skills...When is like a game card. Whatever, you are totally right, RNG is good, you played perfectly. Happy?
Dude why people like you cant accept the truth???? Like last game i lost the game even tho i was 8th place and then i slaugther them all and got 2nd place..and the 1st place guy had %%%%ing 3 lv 3 Champions.. Me just 1...If you dont think this is rng my friend...play something else.Im telling you the truth.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=00010001000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-03T16:27:16.629+0000) > > Dont roll???Some people get champs lv 3 asap while even if i roll if im not lucky i dont get shit.If i keep my gold to increase them...i lose early so badly that i have no chance for late. > > Its RNG bcs the roll you get...bcs the items you get.Some people get 2 items at the begin of the game while some Others 1.I know cuz i played TFT quite a lot now. So what? That you win with 1 or 100 HP is the same.
1 hp???I had 2 garens all the %%%%ing game.I couldnt even bring to lv 2 immagine 3.. Enemy from 8 people 2 players had LV 3 for 3 Champions.And i wasnt even close..What 1 hp lel.I wont make it in time. We were 4 people left..I had 2 hp.And still couldnt get 1 %%%%ign garen for lv 2.Immagine..NO RNG SKILLS OBVIOUSLY. If you roll you use gold and maybe you dont get shit.If you dont roll its all about rng if you get the champs.I had 1 player that the guy did lv 3 in the first rounds..Ma %%%% off lel.Evryone on forum said is rng...why some "pro" people believe TFT is skills...When is like a game card.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-07-03T14:30:13.355+0000) > > Ye is not rng When someone got 3 lv 3 Champions and me cant even reach 1...Cuz i never get it no matter how hard i roll it. > > You smart...Its poor skills to get strong items and more items and same Champions a lot of times.Obviously skills LOL. > > Probably riot listen to noobs like you...maybe thats why League is going badly. Don't roll and get what you have. That's how the game works.
Dont roll???Some people get champs lv 3 asap while even if i roll if im not lucky i dont get shit.If i keep my gold to increase them...i lose early so badly that i have no chance for late. Its RNG bcs the roll you get...bcs the items you get.Some people get 2 items at the begin of the game while some Others 1.I know cuz i played TFT quite a lot now.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=PgTdRklY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T19:18:21.474+0000) > > TFT is only RNG.There is no skill or tactit or strategy….Sorry but its truth.People can deny this but its the ugly TRUTH. > > I lost many games just bcs enemy had bunch of items or lv 3 Champions...While me wasnt even close for lv 3 champs. Oh yeah, you take champions that are taken a lot and then you are surprised you don't have one. It's either pure RNG, or, maybe, a known mecanic saying all players pick in the same pool, and the more a champion is picked, the less there is. But yeah, blame the RNG. Rush for champions instead of items in carousel, blame RNG. You don't understand the game, blame RNG.
Ye is not rng When someone got 3 lv 3 Champions and me cant even reach 1...Cuz i never get it no matter how hard i roll it. You smart...Its poor skills to get strong items and more items and same Champions a lot of times.Obviously skills LOL. Probably riot listen to noobs like you...maybe thats why League is going badly.
: how to survive season 9
When i said s9 is awful people on forum were like "oh but s9 is perfect shut up its more then fine".Those are just the nabs that probably riot listen and thats what happening. From s8 League was shit.And is pretty awful now to play ranked and probably will be s10 too.
: TeamFight tactics
TFT is only RNG.There is no skill or tactit or strategy….Sorry but its truth.People can deny this but its the ugly TRUTH. I lost many games just bcs enemy had bunch of items or lv 3 Champions...While me wasnt even close for lv 3 champs.
: Teamfight Tactics or Teamfight RNG [POLL]
They have to fix items and Champions.I mean i was doing well and after some rounds almost at the end where we left 6 people...i get this guy who got 3 Champions LV 3.And i wasnt even close.I didnt even have 1. To drop same champs is HUGE RNG.Riot now gonna put ranked in tft really...WTF.This TFT is full LUCK.There are no sklills here.
: I'm actually having a good time seeing all of these vents from people
It was obvious from the day they start focusing more on pro stage then solo que.
Rioter Comments
Viavarian (EUW)
: Top has always been the role that snowballs the hardest on average, but has the lowest statistical impact on the game. So if you want to win lane, top is the best as long as you know your counterpicks and you can play your champions better than the enemy. If you care more about winning games, then not so much, a fed top lane influences the outcome of a game less than any other role.
Wtf you talking about lol.Win top with {{champion:39}} or {{champion:24}} {{champion:266}} its easier to 1v9 with such champs then an adc...Adc need a decent team to carry.Even if you feed af you wont deal with a feed {{champion:24}} . Adc needs a team to carry.To play around them.Top mid jgl can do it solo.
: Yes ! That's the elementalist synergy. And the chances of getting champs changes as you level up. So those guys with 3 stars just rerolled at the right moment most of the time. The only RNG problem is the number of items you get
Not only items but champs too.I got people that could get 4 champs to lv 3...me i had just 1.
Rioter Comments
: Is it just me who doesnt like TFT?
The only problem i have with TFT is that is more inbalanced then League itself..Like seriously.Some people get 2 items from first minions...and me i get 2 %%%%ing {{item:3070}} .Whos gonna win i wonder.. Whats even worse is the timer..and i dont think we get exp from playng TFT neither.
Enchant5 (EUW)
: The TFT Experience
The only problem i have...is the drop items.I had this guy enemy who had 7+items while me i was at 3.Cmon man.Unfair.
fitoras (EUNE)
: Nice riot :) 1000IQ
Do i have to install it to play it?
: Normal draft - girls
Full support team{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: How the %%%% get some players away with everything?
If you keep flaming you will get punished.But if you say some words….evry game and not spam nothing will happen. And trolling isnt bannable if you do it right.You die 5 times who cares...You need more then 20 deaths.
: Is turret plate a healthy mechanic in the game?
Turret plate is a bad idea.And thats because if you win lane...bcs lets say you go against {{champion:86}} and you play {{champion:122}} .The match is in your favor.No matter how good garen is he cant do mutch vs darius. You just push and get tons of plates if you kill him or force him to back...GG.You get sooo %%%%ing far ahead.Especially when your mid lets say your mid ints..Enemy gets soo mutch rewarded from those plates.Losing lane right now means losing game.Plates are way too rewarded.
: Velkoz is a mage support and a high damage supp-as he causes true damage. Players banning him after you select are just trolls and always keep 2-3 champions for a role.
{{champion:161}} is mage.Damage dealer.Not "support"It wont peel your adc it wont shield you or speed you up...or buy support items like {{item:3504}} {{item:3190}} Thats why is not seen as support.Your adc wants to get peel.Thats what adc need..without that adc is useless. Im not sayng to not pick velkoz.For solo que velkoz support is more then good.You need dmg to carry.ALWAYS.But your adc ...will feel useless as usual.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OInP5ynZ,comment-id=000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:36:38.732+0000) > > Sorry mate you just cant agree with the truth. > > If we take all this datas you say we will buff champ slike lb and yasuo that dont need a nerf.And we will nerf malzahar too even tho he doesnt need a nerf. > > Simple at it is.YOu dont remember when {{champion:19}} had 54% winrate and he never got nerf.. > > And no lb doesnt need a buff at all.And trust me when i say "sivir" can have 60% winrate in solo que adc have the lowest impact into the game. > > Again dont put pro stage with solo que.Cuz its a different type of game.I can get 30 kills for sivir i still win against her.I rather Not see a 3 0 {{champion:157}} that have 48% bcs you fear him more for good reason. I can only - once again - tell you to read Riot's guideline on nerfing and buffing champions as it adresses all of your points. I don't quite get your argument though. You say that Sivir dominating proplay is not a reason to nerf her but Sivir dominating soloq isn't either while you also say that LeBlanc being weak in Soloq isn't a reason to buff her while the only reason she is in her current state is proplay (which - according to you - doesn't matter). So basically you throw all data of both pro and casual play out of the window and say the game should be balanced according to your arbitrary thoughts on what is healthy and what not. > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OInP5ynZ,comment-id=000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:36:38.732+0000) > And trust me when i say "sivir" can have 60% winrate in solo que adc have the lowest impact into the game. So you're saying that someone can consistently win more games than everybody else but still have no impact? Can you please elaborate on that? Isn't "being able to influence a game to win more" pretty much the definition of having impact? xD
Do you even play solo que?Do you know adc have the lowest impact into solo que? Get this.When tanks were "op" they were op in pro play.In solo que tanks couldnt carry games alone. The same is for adc.Adc was never op….ardent was for supports.Ardent supports.Adc was never op in solo que and never could carry alone.They got nerf bcs pro stage...but solo que they were fine.. Riot nerf champ mostly based in pro play...you didnt know that????Again...pro stage and solo que are 2 different games. And {{champion:7}} doesnt deserve a buff bcs her wirnate is 47% the same as {{champion:157}} doesnt deserve 1.Bcs the champs have the impact to carry games.ALONEEE. What data you talking about..you dont remember when they nerfed champs even tho they wirnate were shit like {{champion:142}} ..but they nerfed the champ bcs was played in pro play.. Majority of nerfs comes bcs of pro play...that was with tanks and thats it with adc too. You didnt know that??????Again sivir is good adc now doesnt mean she will carry alone games.Bcs adc in solo que dont have that big impact.
: they didn't , apperantely mid , adc and jg just gave up for Teemo's lack of communication with his team .
So giving up is not bannable….OK i see.But ban that teemo that at least tried to win. Ye system definetly works.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OInP5ynZ,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T16:06:43.552+0000) > > Dude...{{champion:103}} got 52% winrate so??what fact.Nerf ahri?. > > {{champion:90}} 54% winrate.Broken malza?I dont think so.Leave me with winrates.Even {{champion:157}} 48% winrate..should be buff him??{{champion:7}} 47% winrate...buff her? I took my winrates from OP.GG (I'm just saying this because it doesn't match your numbers). Sivir combines the highest winrate in Soloq with a >25% pick AND a >25% banrate which is insane. Usually high pick rates conincide with slightly lowered winrates (and vice versa). Also, according to your won logic, LB should get a HUGE buff since the reason she got nerfed so hard was purely proplay. But to you that doesn't matter, so yeah, according to you she should be buffed. > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OInP5ynZ,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T16:06:43.552+0000) > > If is your "fact"about winrate then we have to buff tons of strong champs in this game. No other champ combines Win, pick and banrate in soloq while being equally strong in proplay quite like Sivir right now. By the way, Riot recently released a guideline for when they buff or nerf champions. Maybe you should look it up and critizise the principles they base their decisions on instead of denying all data, completely disregarding all of competetive play and just say they are stupid.
Sorry mate you just cant agree with the truth. If we take all this datas you say we will buff champ slike lb and yasuo that dont need a nerf.And we will nerf malzahar too even tho he doesnt need a nerf. Simple at it is.YOu dont remember when {{champion:19}} had 54% winrate and he never got nerf.. And no lb doesnt need a buff at all.And trust me when i say "sivir" can have 60% winrate in solo que adc have the lowest impact into the game. Again dont put pro stage with solo que.Cuz its a different type of game.I can get 30 kills for sivir i still win against her.I rather Not see a 3 0 {{champion:157}} that have 48% bcs you fear him more for good reason.
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