Drda (EUNE)
: Youre right about no one caring but he doesnt need to "deal with it" and action must be taken
What action?Most of fanboys on forum will say "its ok" because they are not too smart and believe evry riot words. If riot dont wake up thats what will happen most of the time.Better ban flamer tho...GEGE.
Zedant (EUW)
: I dont even play solo queue just contered your "point". Also since you got my point explain it to me,EXPLAIN WHAT YOU DIDNT GET/LIKE and lets see what we can do about it. Dont be like :"Oh,everyone is dumb ,nya nya." You wont be getting anywhere whit that attitude,its also way too frustrating to talk to you I suppose. If you want to destroy yourself its fine I dont care anyway.
Dude i told you.{{champion:18}} is not "DUMB "champion.Evry champion in URF has its own power.Thats why its %%%%ing urf. You need a little bit of brain to understand.
JustClone (EUNE)
: {{champion:28}} with only {{item:1402}} killed you in 2 shots? While you had {{item:3156}} ? Did she was 10 levels ahead of you?
You never played eve before???Believe me she does so mutch dmg her ult is not even needed most of the time. I wasnt full hp.But i did had the shield from maw.She just deleted it instantly.
Zedant (EUW)
: I know how ALL champ in this game works,so what? WHAT ITS YOUR POINT GODAMMIT. I told you that she can just push and not fight and THATS UNFUN. Then you comeback telling me she can push whit her E. You also said it like:" You should use your brain,stupid %%%%%%%%%%%%,she can push whit her E are you stupid?". And in the second half you tell me AGAIN what I JUST TOLD YOU and is ALSO TRUE IN NORMAL BTW, and after that you say that she can push whit her E again like you didnt just told me that 15 words before AND also AFTER I TOLD you IN THE FIRST PLACE she can do that and thats what was unfun. Do you have anything to say?Or are you just gonna pretend like you are saying something?
{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} God damn it thats why solo que is %%%%ed.People like you are dumb.
Zedant (EUW)
: Yeah nothing its wrong whit people,you are wrong whit people. YOu also cant READ at all who even said adc were OP in urf? :"NEVER FOUGHT simply pushed and pushed ALL GAME " Use your brain and figure out I'm talking about it being unfun that this champ just pushes instead of fighting like you should in urf.
Maybe you should use your brain to understand that is a {{champion:18}} .You even realise wtf her e does?? Urf isnt fun anymore.Who picks the right champs win.And tristana is useless to kill in urf but good to push because her E.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Supports are underrated
I did this game as {{champion:63}} .My adc was {{champion:236}} and he did nothing all game.Practically i was doing evrything bot.DMG/POKE/CC even set up the kill for him.Thats mean he was just a bot that last hit the enemy champs.And our team was inting literally.Lucian was pretty useless even with few kills. So i carried that game.I did the most dmg.Double the most dmg.Highest dmg into the game.Even tho i did carry and i killed evryone….lucian got all the honors and evryone said "gg lucian you carried so hard".Holy shit lel.And you could even see graphics tower dmg/assists/dmg to Champions.Was all me... Its sad for the support main.Very sad.
: I'd say more underappreciated than anything else. There is so much that a good support player does that goes unnoticed by your teammates. Oh the carries always get praised for getting tons of kills but hardly anyone thanks the support who sets up the play in the first place.
Thats so true.I play support too from time to time and even if i carry solo evryone gives credit to your "adc".Even tho you did evrything.
: yeah that true, i'm sad that faker is getting worse (skt1 overall) but i think it may be because of the meta. if you lock back of when the won, the won througe macro play and slow gains (tank meta etc) when everything was slower, the meta now don't suit skt1, it 2 fast paced (probaly wrong grammer). if we get slower games with more late game scaling the new s10, skt1 may play better.
Well ye...tank meta was playable.Skills could show up and carry games.Now is all about stupid picks.This meta is garbage awful and if doesnt change we wont see so mutch skills neither solo q neither pro stage. Evryone qq about "tank" meta bcs they probably too nabs to understand that it was the most playable meta ever.
: glad for FPX but still kinda sad that skt1 lost, G2 deserved to lose anyway, they just win througe cheese pick (pyke, veigar, yas, grag etc) prefer standard comp or tank meta.
sadly thats how it is today.Even in pro stage.You abuse the stupid champs you win. But lets be honest skt is quite tragic now.And faker made so many mistakes.
: Banned from chat for playing Teemo supp (yeah, I thought the meme had ended)
You know you can get chat restric even for tipyng a lot right?It happened to me when i tried to carry games and tried to explain to my "dumb"team what to do. From that day i just gave up tipyng.Im not sayng this is your case im sure you said something bad...but you can get chat restricted for many other reasons.And typing all game is one of them. Not Worth man.Play your teemo support stfu and dont care.I saw good support teemo players.Teemo support works.
: > [{quoted}](name=Obi Wan Kanosey,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=N6gHEhzI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-09T17:46:42.731+0000) > > The main thing is how AD items are so much more expensive, which is one of the main reasons why. Are they though? Luden's Echo - 3100g.................Essence Reaver - 3300g Archangel's Staff - 3200g..........Manamune - 2400g Hextech GLP - 2800g.................Statikk Shiv - 2600g Hextech Gunblade - 3400g........Bloodthirster - 3500g Protobelt - 2500g.......................Rapidfire Cannon - 2600g Rabbadon's Deathcap - 3600g...Infinity Edge - 3400g Rylai's Crystal Scepter - 2600g..Phantom Dancer - 2600g Rod of Ages - 2800g...................Runaan's Hurricane - 2600g Liandry's Torment - 3100g..........Stormrazor - 3100g Morellonomicon - 3000g............Guinsoo's Rageblade - 3100g Zonya's Hourglass - 2900g........Guardian Angel - 2800g Banshee's Veil - 3000g...............Blade of the Ruined King - 3300g Void Staff - 2650g.......................Lord Dominik/Mortal Reminder - 2800g Lich Bane - 3300g.......................Trinity Force - 3733g = 41950.......................................= 41833
{{item:3508}} is 3300.{{item:3285}} is way better because better stats.I mean look it for yourself.And is 100 gold cheaper(3200) {{item:3152}} 2500 vs {{item:3094}} 2600.Again 100 less gold and we all know gives good stats too.You cant say protobelt is more useless then atack speed item. {{item:3157}} we all know its an op item.2900 gold vs what..better then any ad item.CDR AP +ARMOR AND INVULNERABILITY.OP SHIT.Compare it to this {{item:3031}} 3400. The only expensive items ap may get is {{item:3089}} but gives Amazing ap.Any you cant compare this to none of ad items.Yes ad items are expensive while ap is broken at the moment. Too mutch to choose too mutch dmg and less expensive too.Ap items need to be nerfed.
: Gonna go out on a limb here and say it won't happen for 2 reasons, primarily because Riot earns more by closing accounts and letting people start from scratch, and because Riot does not have the capabilities to even remotely pull of a system intelligent enough to recognise the patterns. Still upvoting the post though, since maybe.., just maybe this dimwitted company pulls their head from their ass long enough to see the light.
I doubht people that get ban will spend more money into the game..Its logic. First time in the game sure.You love skins you think you gonna play with your beautifull account forever...But then if that player gets ban and lose evrything you really believe they will spend again more money into it??Hell no.You must be stupid. Its possible to create a system where we can make solo que better.For first..make it solo not duo.Its a start.I mean riot won a lot of money so why not focusing on making the game better instead of creating more skins.
: > [{quoted}](name=Explosive B00BS,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=evMIFsjZ,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-08T20:31:30.356+0000) > > Actually there is some truth in that sarcasm, these guys are destroying this game.. And what i said? Better hire a bunch of salty kids instead than whoever has worked on the game for more than 10 years at this point. You don't even have to look around that hard to find them: it's sufficient to open one random thread on the boards, and here you experts are! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Lets be honest...riot balance team is garbage.Better try some "salty kids" then that shit balance team.
Mikrolce (EUNE)
: Game quality is disappearing
The mmr was because they didnt reset S9.So many silvers got placed gold+ then plat players got placed around diamond and so on. If they reset entirely mmr on s10 then it will be ok.
: The Yasuo rework.
Are we talking about the guy who ints all my games??Ye..really op.
: Kill this mage meta already
Mages are strong because their items.Those items need to be nerfed a lot.Like they did to infinity edge.
JustClone (EUNE)
: 300 IQ advice... {{item:3156}} <<< THIS will make you immortal against burst damage, like syndra, lux etc... {{item:3102}} <<< VERY GOOD, if someone is engaging on you like blitz, ashe, malph... {{item:3140}} <<< Is enough, if their burst is reliant on applying hard cc to you... lux, veigar, malza, etc... {{item:3157}} <<< If their burst comes all at once. {{item:3111}} <<< Can do miracles, by lowering the time you stay in CC. Usually combination of one or two of those will completely shut down their option to one shot you from full HP. And instead Q-W-E-R on you, they will need to start thinking... And believe me, people fail while thinking a lot.
You realise mr is pretty useless right???{{item:3165}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3020}} Especially with items like this {{item:3151}} . And {{item:3157}} is for ap champs buddy.You wont get it on adc..Well maybe {{champion:145}} ut thats a maybe. And {{item:3156}} xDD dont make me laugh.{{champion:28}} with only jgl item %%%%ed me in 2 shots.I was zed and i already had maw.Dont give me this crap. {{item:3111}} is just to reduce a bit the cc you still get tons of dmg.Ap items are strong af.
Zedant (EUW)
: Either remove adc from urf or make tower more tanky
adc op in urf????????LOOOL DUDE. {{champion:105}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:38}} What about this??Adc op lel.Wtf is wrong with people today.
Ehhhh (EUW)
: I think one of the main reasons AP items give more AP than AD items give AD, is because of the fact that AD also mainly affects your autos, which can be used more than spells, without the CD's most spells have. If the most AD on an item goes to 120, that's instantly another 120 damage that the attackers would do to you. I'm sure there's a lot of other reasons to explain it better though.
Still ap items are very good at the moment.And thats why ap champs like {{champion:105}} are really strong.Good defence items {{item:3157}} great dmg {{item:3089}} and a lot of magic penetration{{item:3165}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3135}} . And then you have Amazing items like {{item:3152}} or {{item:3146}}
: You don't have to tell me about it. I win top mostly but about 40-50% of time I grind my opponent into dust and they have scores like 0/5/0. I had multiple Yasuo top players that were 0/10/0 against me. After that laning phase was over so I moved to other lanes and team fighting. Still I had hard time winning because other lanes didn't do so good. So while I run around trying to save the game those 0/10/0 players just mindlessly push top and do nothing. They farm up or take 1-2 towers and they become relevant again. You wouldn't believe how fcking many games I had were I incredibly stomp my top lane and then move to team fighting but still lose even 5v4. Mostly I just can't keep up with how many kills for example botlane gets. I saw many games where some team mates argue for 20min straight since start of the game after that I just mute them. I could go on and on about the problems i face. I am not pro but I am good enough at the game. I try to improve but I can't do nothing alone when I play simple champs which I like. I stopped about two weeks ago. Again I will use botlane as example but I am honestly tired of playing against {{champion:498}}, {{champion:145}} and couple other adc's. They just have too much dmg and tools at hand. Currently released Senna looks OP as well. Her unique trait is that she takes a second to fire her cannon. That would be fair weakness until you see she gets speed after firing and additional dmg while firing. She gets too much free stats for just collecting ghouls from range. Ult is overloaded lux ult. Like wtf she has heals, shields, cc, utility, dmg, range and etc. I am tired of this nonsense. Akali was like one of the most hated things and now they are reinventing different Akali versions.
Adc is easy to deal with.Especially if you play a strong champion.The problem is most mid/jgl Always play around bot and no one cares about top. And thats how they get feed.And very ahead too.Botlane is better because is 2 players in it.Thats why.And if you play top and get no kills while your bot ints you have to deal with 2 players.Especially that we see dmg support all day long. Problem is you cant carry solo thats all.At the begin of League from s1 there was a big chance to carry alone the game.Now is very hardly team focused.And is %%%%ing solo que.But this is 100% because riot balance team is a big joke and focus on pro stage. PRO STAGE AND SOLO QUE ARE 2 DIFFERENT GAMES.Yet most people cant understand that.
: Then the game loses pretty much all meaning. Only mid champ I like to play was TF but even if I mostly won the lane I couldn't do sht because other lanes were trash. As TF isn't a carry champ I lose. In past seasons I had 60% but on this acc and this seasons I have 40% as it's just too fcking frustrating to play with TF. Awful team mates and each broken champ they release that keeps dashing and dealing insane dmg mostly makes me lose when I mid with TF. Top is worst lane in the game but I manage to have 60% win rate and I win my lane like 80% of time but because other lanes play more broken champs and have more impact in the game I still can't do much even if I win lane. I had so many games where for example I am vs ranged AP champ. I win but to win I had build MR. While I got 5 kills enemy bot by that time has 15 kills so my mr means nothing... Often enemy top lane took klepto which if won made them have huge gold advantage or if lost made them to not be much behind me even if I stomp them. Only now this rune gets destroyed... The game is just too frustrating with no good reward. Older champs can't compare to newer ones. Someone like TF has huge and clear weaknesses but someone like Akali has barely any. I have couple bonus gold on my passive while someone like Senna which is new champ has bunch of free stats in her passive with few pages of text. I don't really have so much time and patience to play to high Diamond so I could enjoy TF because most teams below that are just awful. Played hundreds of games but saw others playing TF like two times which says a lot as he is not worth playing compared to other broken picks.
S9 is shit.Most of the players climbed with luck this season.By simply winning games doing nothing and getting tons of lp while losing less.Luck have more impact now then skills.And there are bilions of proof for that.You can lose game because your top "having bad game".Another game maybe you get afk and that happens a lot.Tilted player who give up in 3 sec..Another game you get inter.And so on.So ofc doesnt look like skills to me but simply luck. I saw a god damn useless yasuo 1 13 winning the game.Thats not skills.Thats pure luck. On the begin of season you could get 35+lp and lose around 10 even tho you had 49% winrate and less.So thats negative winrate yet i saw d4 players with 45% winrate...INSANE.I believe riot %%%%ed up with new conqueror and nerf on adc.At least last season was playable. This season you cant carry solo.No matter how good you are you either get overfeed and play a broken stupid champ or you need the help of your team. And this is why League is in a shitty spot right now.If s10 is the same im done with this shit.Riot focus more on skins and pro stage instead of solo que.
: Because this is how the game is now. Unless you are like in high plat/ low diamond I don't think many care what they are doing. I had countless games where my botlane for example just can't stop feeding. I can get 5 kills in 15min while being top and botlane already fed 15 kills to enemy adc. I must add this happens while I get like 1-0 ganks at top. Had many games where for example I had AP enemy and still stomp them but other lanes where AD so while I build mr against my opponent in lane I still get killed quickly even if I won top. Even if people lose their lane for some reason they don't think about using minions as shield against some champions. They don't think about picking right champions against their lane opponents or just play safe at all. Still even if this season is pretty bad and quality of matches dropped after TFT I can see your last 20 matches KDA is not really great. It's not your fault always but start improving your skills for now. Stick to couple champs for certain roles and just stick to 2-3 roles. When I look at you it ADC then support with couple top games. Find your place and your pool of champs you feel like you are doing solid work.
plat is even worst.Because there if you lose early you lost the game no matter what.Hard to see comebacks. In low elo like silver/gold comebacks are possible because people Always throw.You need to play broken champs that can 1v9.{{champion:84}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:92}} .This are just few of many.And they are not even that hard to play.
dobbson (EUW)
: Comical
Is not the only individual that its doing it.There are a lot of players like him however only flaming is bannable. If you int smart nothing will happen.And ofc there are people on this forum that will say "bad games"and riot probably listen to them.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Can a Rioter please explain this match making I just experienced?
Bad player.Beside most of the people this season climbed with luck honestly.
KuroCorbeau (EUNE)
: You should regard Zhonyas as a way to survive a certain death. I am a midlaner, i play squishy champs like Ahri and Syndra. If I don't buy a stopwatch or Zhonyas, i get stomped by Fizz or Zed. There should ba a way to counter your counters and stopwatch does just that. Do not forget that u can only stopwatch once and that Zhonyas has a CD. Shojin on the other hand is broken and that is why it will be removed.
Adc are not squishy too?{{item:3157}} have armor/cdr/ability power.If thats not enough you can use it at the right time and dodge whatever speel because you will go invulnerable for 2.5 sec. Its a dumb item.Same as stopwatch.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Msuv2Rmk,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-29T14:08:35.302+0000) > > https://champion.gg/champion/Ashe/ADC > > Its hard to believe an immobile champ like ashe can have 54% winrate..And if i remember coreclty winrate is not really good.There is akali that winrate solo que is garbage yet the champ is really strong. > > If is to go by the winrate then we must buff {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} too. > > Adc is weak because he needs help to win the game.And we all know solo que is not like pro stage. Those number are from 9.18 which is before she got a significant buff. You can't compare mechanically intense champions who excell at higher levels of play to champions with virtually no mechanics.
My point was that evry champ in League right now scale better then adc. And this is the truth.{{champion:238}} was a early/mid champ now is doing better late game.A champ like zed that can do the dmg and have mobility is better then adc. Adc have no tankiness,no big cc,no mobility.And they cant even buy those because they Always go full dmg.So tell me would you wanna play "adc"lategame or {{champion:105}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:84}} lategame??And even more champs. If you saw korea especially high elo a lot of time in solo que you see bot different champs but not adc.Not Always adc.Because they are not that good anymore. Ofc on forum there are bunch of silvers who have no idea wtf they talking about...ofc they will still qq about adc. When irelia got -5 movement speed nerf people on forum were like "this is insane nerf is very good nerf"...And after that another 4 5 nerfs came to her.Just idiots.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Msuv2Rmk,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-28T19:53:18.143+0000) > > Adc is shit.And they actually gonna get nerf if they do what they say in preseason.Ashe got 50% winrate...if thats the highest winrate adc then amen. Do you mind giving your sources? Because I gave mine and it's 54.74% winrate there.
https://champion.gg/champion/Ashe/ADC Its hard to believe an immobile champ like ashe can have 54% winrate..And if i remember coreclty winrate is not really good.There is akali that winrate solo que is garbage yet the champ is really strong. If is to go by the winrate then we must buff {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} too. Adc is weak because he needs help to win the game.And we all know solo que is not like pro stage.
Robjen03 (EUW)
: If ADC dont get some buffs im out
You should quit adc.I already did it.Its not Worth.Many fanboys on forum will qq and say they too op and probably riot believe them. Beside i heard they get more nerfs/changes in preseason so its not Worth the time.Adc was crap from s7.They to find yourself another role.
: > [{quoted}](name=Robjen03,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Msuv2Rmk,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-28T19:11:30.078+0000) > > i just cannot enjoy league without playing marksmen and marksmen right now and for a while actually just are %%%%ing terrible to play. with only xayah and kaisa as exceptions.... please do something They are 13th and 15th in terms of botlane winrate, both below 50%. Ashe is actually the highest winrate champion in the game right now (statistics from OP.GG, so data from Plat+ in Korea).
Adc is shit.And they actually gonna get nerf if they do what they say in preseason.Ashe got 50% winrate...if thats the highest winrate adc then amen.
duh7 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Antenora,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-10-23T18:15:21.496+0000) > > ADC's issues isn't to do with scaling. > > It's to do with the fact that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING can 1 shot them. They die like shuld. Problem is that assasins scale to good late. There is no reason to pick ADC or Tank when AP or Assasin + bruser do same with less clicking and still survives fight with same items.
Most assasin shouldnt scale lategame yet they do it.Thats the big problem.Who plays adc 2019 when you can play {{champion:157}} .You scale better then them so who cares.
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-23T17:05:35.352+0000) > > I assume you dont play the game to realise adc is %%%%ing crap.And most of the champs scale better lategame then them right now.Even {{champion:238}} is better lategame then adc and this guy supposed to be good early game. > > Dont fall with this crap dude.Adc is shit and with new changes preseason if those go live adc wont exist anymore. ADC's issues isn't to do with scaling. It's to do with the fact that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING can 1 shot them.
So thats my point too.But too many fanboys on forum qq "adc op".
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-23T16:19:01.969+0000) > > 2 ad insane buff.LOL.Adc version of RIven??Wtf you smoking dude. I assume you don't even know about her mechanics if that's your honest answer.
I assume you dont play the game to realise adc is %%%%ing crap.And most of the champs scale better lategame then them right now.Even {{champion:238}} is better lategame then adc and this guy supposed to be good early game. Dont fall with this crap dude.Adc is shit and with new changes preseason if those go live adc wont exist anymore.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-10-23T16:23:58.456+0000) > > Since i'm a lazy f@@k could you please provide some video, guide or whatever else you think it's good about these things? I have started to play {{champion:51}} lately and i would like to learn more about her. look at xfsn saber for example, he puts out a lot of montages and guides on playing cait and adc in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr6m59_1_A0&t=10s
Ye..playng normals its hard.Or getting a lucky game dude..
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-23T14:12:57.377+0000) > > 1. People are only dumb to step into your Traps below B4. Everyone above just doesn't facechecks every corver for lulz. Especially against Cait, Maybe but you can use it as a follow up to basically oneshot someone in lane or as an insane zoning tool in mid to late game for objectives and sieges. > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-23T14:12:57.377+0000) > > 2. People are only dumb to not shield from your R below B4. Starting from S4 and above people know how to abuse your weaknesses. So what are those weaknesses? > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-23T14:12:57.377+0000) > > 3. Big range is only good if you can get early advantage. Useless when people know timings of Lee, ward enemy jungle etc. Moreover, Ashe or Jinx are better champions with same good range. Ashe has 50 less range and Jinx range is only as high if she is using her Rocket Launcher and only in lategame. Range matters quite a lot even in late game teamfights. > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nfhLArxF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-23T14:12:57.377+0000) > > Why Rito doesn't add more complexity to Cait? What do you mean? Caitlyn is one of the most mechanically intense champions in the game. With all her combos, animation cancelling and Auto resets she is basically a less mobile ADC version of Riven.
2 ad insane buff.LOL.Adc version of RIven??Wtf you smoking dude.
: I guess then it is just impossible for those ADC mains to do Unranked to Diamond {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} not even to speak of to Challenger. It's really not that hard...
Even doublelift said he doesnt play adc low elo.Is a pain in the ass.No one said is impossible. Its frustrating as hell.I even got adc diamond and i quited after that just because is completly trash.And gives you a hard time for real. Maybe you should check this streamers how hard they struggle bot as adc to carry and how easy is for them to win games as top or mid.
Νami (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pEaRBuUF,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000002000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-17T14:32:15.561+0000) > > Seriously??Wtf lol.Nasus stacked does so mutch dmg is insane.Try him with {{summoner:6}} {{summoner:4}} +{{item:3800}} . > > Lets see who escapes now. I have played Nasus enough with ghost but ADCs late game destroy Nasus in no time at all. Any CC will destroy him, he loses to many matchups toplane and loses to every champion early. Even with 1k+ stacks it's easy to not be able to do anything in team fights due to CC and kiting and since Nasus's Q is a flat amount of damage it effectively does a lot less amount of damage compared to the mid-game where -- if you were able to stack freely -- you can two-shot an ADC.
If nasus have good early its impossible for him to lose vs any champ.I saw feed {{champion:39}} she won top against nasus and simply he got 2 items some stucks and gg was over.You couldnt 1v1 him anymore. Adc...you can delete adc in 2 stacks.Beside adc cant kill tanks easily.{{item:3047}} {{item:3143}} OP vs adc.And you got mutch more armor if you want. And you probably forget this is solo que..What team game?Better team wins ye s9 thats quite how works.But if that way then doesnt matter what you play. With nasus you can split all day long no one can 1v1 you or even 2v1 if you stucked.
: > This is why from s8 was bruiser meta too.A feed 20 0 adc can lose 1v1 vs a 3 0 Jax . If the ADC doesn't have hands or brains, then yeah... guess thats the real problem here. What I frequently encounter in my games.
Adc is a hard role.Thats why low elo is hard to find good adcs.Thats why even pro players high elo players play adc only in higher elo too. You can be best adc without someone to give you the time to scale and peel for you then youre done.
: Yea but she didn't get any compensations for the nerfs to W and E she received. Will be competitive because of R, but what do we care we arn't all LCS players.
Dont bother about nerfs/buffs because riot balance team is a joke.They have no idea wtf they doing.Most of their nerfs are based on pro plays thats why solo que is getting destroyed. However i could understand if you said another adc...As adc at the moment is pretty trash.But champs like {{champion:145}} can abuse ap.Thats why she is still good.
: > I won even against 20 0 adc.I even lost as 20 kill adc. Exceptions are what they are. Exceptions. As a rule, a fed ADC is the strongest asset of any team as by their very nature and itemization, they scale the hardest (AS, AD, Crit synergy). And yes, that offensive strength comes with some downsides on the defensive (in most cases; some ADCs do have it all rolled in one {{champion:145}} ). Varus and Kog'Maw are far from useless now. In fact Kog'Maw has never been bad. Aside from the fact Twitch has his Q (and R range), Jinx her passive and Xayah her W and R, its not the point. If they do their job and stay behind their team (and their team does their job and protects them), ADCs are by far the most dangerous champions. No wonder we have several champions whose job it is to take them out before or during a fight BECAUSE they are so dangerous.
NOO they dont scale the hardest.Not anymore at least.Evry champ in League scale better then adc and this is for bruisers mostly. This is why from s8 was bruiser meta too.A feed 20 0 adc can lose 1v1 vs a 3 0 {{champion:24}} . Maybe it snot normal but thats what it is.There is a reason why adc needs a support.Thats why is duo bot not solo lane. You didnt play adc to actually try what you say.Evryone scale better then adc now..IS just a fact.
Νami (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pEaRBuUF,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000020000,timestamp=2019-10-16T19:16:56.645+0000) > > You realise...{{champion:110}} {{champion:96}} are useless now.. > {{champion:145}} is ok only because of her ap dmg yet she get outscaled too. > > {{champion:222}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:498}} with no mobility.You tell me they scale better then {{champion:24}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:75}} ?? > > Be serious bro.Adc is useless without support.Adc feed is not tanky and most of them have no mobility..1 jump on you youre dead.{{champion:67}} needs huge lategame and yet she cant do shit solo against someone with cc or slow like {{champion:24}} . > > All the time i see enemy adc feed i dont care at all.Because i know they weak and they cant carry without a decent team.ADC is team reliant. > > I won even against 20 0 adc.I even lost as 20 kill adc.Is not possible to carry solo as adc. Lots of people always quote Nasus as being a late-game champ but he's not. He spikes mid-game and then falls off. He loses hard to CC and getting kited.
Seriously??Wtf lol.Nasus stacked does so mutch dmg is insane.Try him with {{summoner:6}} {{summoner:4}} +{{item:3800}} . Lets see who escapes now.
: Kaisa struggles overall.
{{champion:145}} is probably the only adc that doesnt struggle that mutch.What jinx LOL. Kaisa shes ok just because of her ap dmg.You can go ap.{{item:3124}} very good on her+{{item:3157}} .So if they try to kill you they wont succed so easily.Zhonya is dumb item +gives cdr and armor.
: You tell me every toplane champ scales better than {{champion:145}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:110}} ?
You realise...{{champion:110}} {{champion:96}} are useless now.. {{champion:145}} is ok only because of her ap dmg yet she get outscaled too. {{champion:222}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:498}} with no mobility.You tell me they scale better then {{champion:24}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:75}} ?? Be serious bro.Adc is useless without support.Adc feed is not tanky and most of them have no mobility..1 jump on you youre dead.{{champion:67}} needs huge lategame and yet she cant do shit solo against someone with cc or slow like {{champion:24}} . All the time i see enemy adc feed i dont care at all.Because i know they weak and they cant carry without a decent team.ADC is team reliant. I won even against 20 0 adc.I even lost as 20 kill adc.Is not possible to carry solo as adc.
: Aatrox so dominant mid game that he sits at 40 % win rate in solo queue at 20-40 min because at this point mages get morello and make him useless . bruisers are somewhat tanky because there are only 4 items for bruisers which are black cleaver/steraks/trinity/death dance after building those items bruisers are forced to build somewhat tanky items for some survivability. Too bad every single champion in game has an % hp based abilities or passives punishing you for getting any hp from these items .Only reason bruisers are somewhat tanky is due to them having some life steal build in or being ahead and stacking resistances when enemy is full ad or full ap when u take that away u end up with immobile easy to kite squishy champs that have getting close to anyone in team fight. Adc aren't in bad spot its just that assasins /mage assasins in mid lane are so busted right now with bonus dmg from runes that they one shot anyone who doesn't build armor/mr and ADC are not known for getting those
{{champion:157}} was in the same spot sitting at low winrate yet people qq about him being op. Did you forgot {{champion:84}} ??Low winrate yet such a stupid champion to deal with.Winrate is not evrything when it comes to champs.Sivir had 52+% winrate yet she was so easy to deal with her. Then they nerfed her and no one plays her ever again. What winrate???{{champion:24}} is at 48% winrate...what does that mean his weak?.I dont think so.Bruisers can build anything thats why they strong.While adc or ad assasins have to build the same shit evry game. Bruisers build only that ??Really.You can go {{item:3071}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3047}} and you already have the dmg.Enemy team is feed.Good you can buy armor and magic resist.{{item:3143}} op vs adc.Adc is useless against that. {{item:3065}} {{item:3156}}. You got options while most champs dont. As i said "A champ that can be tanky and output so mutch dmg isnt healty for the game". I do agree with one think with what you said.Ap is busted this is where i agree.They got tons of magic penetration thats why they broken.While assasins and adc not really. {{item:3135}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3165}} +shit items like {{item:3157}} that shouldnt even exist into the game.
nJacob (EUW)
: You should play the game a bit more before you try to suggests way to improve it friend, since you clearly lack some basic understandings of this game. For a start, smurfing will never be prohibited and an intentional feeder detection system can not and never will be implement (other than, of course, the 0/20/0 mobi boots 5x tear stuff). League's matchmaking is actually quite fine except at very high elos (challenger mostly) and the game is currently the most balanced it's ever been.
I got that inter with 1 20 and mobi boots when he gets banned?The guy simply is still playng. I agree with him in one fact.Instead of skins and dunno what other shits they should improve the system.
: Funny how u base your opinion about top lane from single aatrox game in pro play. Aatrox has 0 sustain on lane after all the nerfs he recieved to his passive making him pick only good against certain melee champions .Against ranged or poking champions u can go EVEN at best and going EVEN is not how u carry games. Hes overall weak solo solo queue pick and his low win rate proves it. Also stop using examples like Vlad Kled or Kennen which are just broken champs that riot just refuses to nerf for very long time and most top picks also struggle against them. Try playing any other bruiser/tank that isnt kled or gnar then u see how 'Dominant" top lane is when while being 10/0 and having 1000 gold lead u will struggle to do anything other than being meat shield for your team in team fights due to every single champion having 10 escape abilities 0r losing trades to vayne which has blade of ruined king and takes half of your hp in 3 auto attacks {{champion:67}}
Top was Always dominant from the begin of s8.Wtf you talking about. Right now evry champs scale better then adc.Evry single one of them.And champs like {{champion:266}} {{champion:24}} are very good mid lategame. {{champion:85}} is range not op...thats why he is good toplane he doesnt let you farm.Champs that can be tanky and do huge amount of dmg are more then fine.But you people seems to not understand what happened s8 with bruisers meta..
Shamose (EUW)
: Top dominant this season? Nice joke.
It isnt??Champs like {{champion:24}} are Always dominant especailly if they get to lategame.
Jaçke (EUW)
: So ADC's are dead in pre season.
If they really reduce exp on bot then adc is not viable anymore. Toplane can easy win games if you play champs like {{champion:24}} {{champion:39}} etc.And solo lanes even if they fall behind they still are ahead on exp.While botlane is Always 1 or 2 lv behind because duo bot. So what they do its nonsense and adc will be more then %%%%ed.And with tanks back AMEN. And they really destroy klepto???Well amen {{champion:81}} and {{champion:41}} .Even tho gp can use grasp he wont scale fast so he will be useless until min 35 if you reach that point.
Dekara3 (EUW)
: Dont play ranked.
But but...many "smart"people on forum say "get gud you skilled you win".LOL. You should listen to all those people living into a fantasy.They cant accept the truth that riot %%%%ed up ranked.And this was from s8.But whatever.
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