Hansiman (EUW)
: No. Someone picked a champion you don't like? Vote to kick. Someone refused to pick the champion you demanded them to? Vote to kick. Don't like the match history of someone? Vote to kick. etc. Even if the vote doesn't come through, you've still already diminished the other person's will to try their best.
In game vote kick. If you decide to kick someone because of the reasons you stated, you're just making it harder for yourself and there's a higher chance that you will lose the game crippling your team like that. On the other hand, if someone says they're trolling or obviously trolling, or being bad refusing to listen or cooperate, by kicking him out you might have slightly more chances to win. I know, because it happened to me a few times after troll/feeder just went afk.
Rioter Comments
: In first place 2 wrongs don't make one right, other players breaking the rules and toxic behaviour doesn't give you a free pass to break the rules yourself. While chat toxicity might not affect the gameplay it's still toxic, unsportsmanlike and quite pathetic tbh, you truly have to be someone oversensitive and affected by "yuh feelings" to insult strangers on the internet over an online game, but the only truly relevant part is; it's against the rules you accepted when you created the account. And lastly, learn to take responsability for your actions, you accepted some rules and then you broke them, face the consequences and stop being a whinny brat. To be honest I wouldn't mind if chat banter or insulting were permitted, since I don't give a fck about them, but it's not, deal with it. Here's the argument you were looking for, and you will have to suck it up, like your ban, since it's a reality you can't change.
> [{quoted}](name=Sauron in Space,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E9ocEsoG,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-13T22:22:54.846+0000) > > In first place 2 wrongs don't make one right, other players breaking the rules and toxic behaviour doesn't give you a free pass to break the rules yourself. > > While chat toxicity might not affect the gameplay it's still toxic, unsportsmanlike and quite pathetic tbh, you truly have to be someone oversensitive and affected by "yuh feelings" to insult strangers on the internet over an online game, but the only truly relevant part is; it's against the rules you accepted when you created the account. > That's the fckin point, it's an online video game. At this point I don't know what to do anymore, you missed the topic. Read it again, this is not about me, stop attacking me. > And lastly, learn to take responsability for your actions, you accepted some rules and then you broke them, face the consequences and stop being a whinny brat. > Sure, you might want to get your head out of your ass tho and read my post again. This isn't about me, I'm not punished, I'm not banned. Read it again but slowly and try to comprehend the post. You can call your mom or someone to help you understand. > Here's the argument you were looking for, and you will have to suck it up, like your ban, since it's a reality you can't change. I'm not banned and that's not the argument I'm looking for. I know it's hard to understand, but discuss my idea and argument, don't attack me directly. Now, take a deep breath and read the OP again. If you need help, just say, I can see you're a little slow and I have patience for kids like that.
Paper1 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MezmerizeR93,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E9ocEsoG,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-02-13T21:02:08.009+0000) > > So after 30mins of pointless postings I get a valid argument. > > Maybe, but It's usually a short sentence like "fu" or something like that. So it's not that of a distraction. Well that's not my problem that they're easily insulted. The problem is that there is a mute button and as soon as you see that someone's toxic you can mute them, like the last game I've played jungler told me "%%%% you, noob" so I muted him and that's it... That should be the part of the game ... I am not the original guy why you're responding to, but I'll give this discussion a go. You misunderstand how the mute button should be used. When players use it, it means the damage has already been done, and yes that damage is done after one insult like "fu". By saying that, you're basically saying you're not at all interested in cooperating with your team. And that goes against presumably your goal of winning your games. You need your team to win, bottom line. And if other people do that to you, that doesn't justify you doing it to others either, it's even worse, The higher up the ladder you go, pings/emotes are not enough to communicate more specific tactics to your team. I think you need to realise that chat has more value than just a dumping ground for other people to hear negativity that has nothing to do with the game. The same goes with the rest of the community too, not just you. I agree that the IFS system seems to be ineffective. I report players like one in every two games and I can't remember the last time I ever got a message saying they got punished. That's kind of insulting really, they want us to report but you won't take them seriously? Truth is when you get a troller or afker, you now have more workload on top of doing your own role to cover the guy who isn't doing their job in the team, and that's just unreasonable. Finally, just so we're clear, the fact that people mute has nothing to do with their feelings being hurt by your insulting comment. It is more to do with the hopeless feeling of not being able to encourage your team to work together brought on by observing similar comments over loads of other games. Suppose for a second you're a jungler and I die in a lane, then maybe I die to a second time because of an enemy jungler gank, and maybe a third time. Maybe after processing what just happened, I ask you my jungler "Could you come and gank please?" Perhaps along with a reason why. I guarantee the majority of the time that will be taken personally by you and you say "fu", and it does happen a lot of the time. That's exhausting for the laner to deal with when you as a jungler could either say no because of reason X or yes I'll try to come.
> [{quoted}](name=Paper1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E9ocEsoG,comment-id=000300010001,timestamp=2019-02-14T01:09:15.922+0000) > > I am not the original guy why you're responding to, but I'll give this discussion a go. You misunderstand how the mute button should be used. When players use it, it means the damage has already been done, and yes that damage is done after one insult like "fu". By saying that, you're basically saying you're not at all interested in cooperating with your team. And that goes against presumably your goal of winning your games. You need your team to win, bottom line. And if other people do that to you, that doesn't justify you doing it to others either, it's even worse, > "Damage is done".. either the game is full of pusseys or this game is a pre-school. So, I can troll and play like a moron and I MUST expect my team to carry me, even tho I'm not helping, just because. Now imagine this scenario: I'm being a %%%%%%, someone tell's me that I'm a degenerate and they vote-kick me. I get a 3 day ban and realize that I should not be a %%%%%% in games. I like that European school of thought, bend over the and the bully take you to magical journey. God forbid you react. > Truth is when you get a troller or afker, you now have more workload on top of doing your own role to cover the guy who isn't doing their job in the team, and that's just unreasonable. > Unreasonable is that that they will not get punished. Do you know why? I was banned a few times for just calling someone a %%%%%%, I don't get banned for that anymore. You know why? Because (((rito))) lovez them moneyz, and ever since I bought my first skin a while ago I never got banned again. > Finally, just so we're clear, the fact that people mute has nothing to do with their feelings being hurt by your insulting comment. It is more to do with the hopeless feeling of not being able to encourage your team to work together brought on by observing similar comments over loads of other games. > Incorrect, had a game today. Told one dude to grow up since he said he will troll for some reason. He told me that he fcked my mom. I told him "k" and he went on with that, calling me a balkan scum. Now you see, I'm not western european soiboi %%%, I won't stand and let him pound my behind, so I told him to kill himself and spare his friends and family from the suffering of his degeneracy. I have no intention of playing games like that, bottom line is that I'd rather play with someone who's flaming but still playing, then with someone who's afk. > Suppose for a second you're a jungler and I die in a lane, then maybe I die to a second time because of an enemy jungler gank, and maybe a third time. Maybe after processing what just happened, I ask you my jungler "Could you come and gank please?" Perhaps along with a reason why. I guarantee the majority of the time that will be taken personally by you and you say "fu", and it does happen a lot of the time. That's exhausting for the laner to deal with when you as a jungler could either say no because of reason X or yes I'll try to come. And you know whos fault is that? Yours. Why? Well because %%%% you, learn to play. Just ask rito.
: pics or didn't happen
reddit memez amirite Still no valid argument tho.
BesniStakor (EUNE)
: Your sarcasm is supposed to prove a point...not contradict it... You are even bad at trolling...lol
Yet you still haven't given me the valid argument.
PH45 (EUNE)
: > Why is it more important when I tell someone some words, that don't effect the game directly Except you are distracting yourself typing negative stuff in chat, and also potentially making your team play worse when you insult them. > when you tell some and hurt their feewings you get permabanned instantly You don't get permabanned instantly. First you get 10 game chat restrict, then 25, then 14-day ban and then a permaban, unless of course you prove yourself to be an extremely negative case then you may jump straight to a 14-day ban, but you never get a perma for first offence afaik.
> [{quoted}](name=PH45,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E9ocEsoG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-13T20:33:38.090+0000) > > Except you are distracting yourself typing negative stuff in chat, and also potentially making your team play worse when you insult them. > > You don't get permabanned instantly. First you get 10 game chat restrict, then 25, then 14-day ban and then a permaban, unless of course you prove yourself to be an extremely negative case then you may jump straight to a 14-day ban, but you never get a perma for first offence afaik. So after 30mins of pointless postings I get a valid argument. Maybe, but It's usually a short sentence like "fu" or something like that. So it's not that of a distraction. Well that's not my problem that they're easily insulted. The problem is that there is a mute button and as soon as you see that someone's toxic you can mute them, like the last game I've played jungler told me "%%%% you, noob" so I muted him and that's it... That should be the part of the game. Also, we can just remove the chat altogether since you have pings and emotes to express whatever you want. But you still get more punished for typing something in chat (where someone can mute you and prevent further flaming by himself with one click) then with trolling, afk and just negative players that effect the game directly and that you cannot prevent. Example 1: Xin 6/2/6 (fair jungler but toxic): "wtf you noobs","noob bot fu","why dont you ping bastard",etc... - /mute him - he's a still a good jungler and you can't see his chat. Example 2: yasuo 0/12/2 (feeding, won't play def when he's behind, toxic) You can mute him but he still sucks and continues on to ruin the game directly and you can't mute his play or vote kick him and try to win 5v4 without him giving kills further. That way, he won't be taking farm and giving kills from other players that are actually trying to win (won a few games like that when a negative, toxic and feeding player went afk - implement vote kick). And then at 13th minute he says "open mid" and goes some other lane to ruin. Example 3: Jax 3/5 early game (simply trolling) Engaging in fight even if he's behind, someone tells him to stop and he says:" lol it's just a game relax lololol", effecting the course of the game further more. I can mute him but I can't make him stop trolling except vote kick. Also, I don't know if you get report feedback for all punished players but I've never got a report feedback when reporting someone for trolling/afk/negative attitude/etc... only when I report someone for verbal (I rarely report for verbal since that's the part of the game and also only for extreme verbal abuse). I've also contacted rito for that and they told me that I need to git gud and carry the game with feeder,afk,troll,etc... so does that mean that I can just run around doing nothing and my team has to carry me since it is expected of them to do so? EDIT: if someone can't handle banter or "flaming" maybe they should start a game with /mute all.
BesniStakor (EUNE)
: I don't want to. Sad delusional individuals are your forte.
wow omg im offended rito ban him now
BesniStakor (EUNE)
: I love it how you exaggerate to prove a point. Sad.
That's something you don't understand.
: How it helps you telling someone some word? Next day you open a mystery box and get LP? Edit: https://i.imgflip.com/2tkwma.jpg
that's not the point. btw I can play the meme games too. https://imgur.com/a/oTNMuha
: I'm quite sure you didn't get castrated.
But I surely got arrested.
Rioter Comments
: A very %%%%ing serious request.
Dude, you can't argue with rito logic. This is the same as their reply with leavers and trolls:" Learn to be good and carry the game 4v5", so with that logic you can just jerk around, troll and you'll be carried... as expected by rito.
Sarokh (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MezmerizeR93,realm=EUNE,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=8rPF195V,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-24T04:05:10.180+0000) > > both of us did, didn&#x27;t work. We didn&#x27;t play after that game. There was this old hungry woman in the gross store who wanted to buy potatoes, but unfortunately it appeared that she had too low amount of money and nobody wanted to help this sad old woman, so I said to everyone ”look at yourselves, in the old good days everyone helped eachother with anything although we were not familiar to eachother!”. I then helped this old woman to return the potatoes to their places. We need to start showing love to eachother out there boys n girls <3
I'm going to report you for this comment.
Sarokh (EUW)
: Ask him/her to relog If that did not solve the issue, then your mmr has finally gone too far away from his mmr from your last ranked game together But that doesnt matter anyways... in 4 hours you will be able to play together again XD
both of us did, didn't work. We didn't play after that game.
Sarokh (EUW)
: Your mmr is far away from his mmr bro Your skills are definitely different from his Or her
We played last ranked game about 6hrs ago. EDIT: we tried with another account that was in silver last season and we could enter que.
Kabakadamn (EUNE)
: Normally it is not possible to play together if there is high tier difference in ranked. So probably you are trying to do duo with one of your higher tier friend which is normally not possible do to rank difference? Or You can't do duo at all?
we're both unranked, we were both in gold. we tried with another account that was in silver last season and we could enter que.
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Nextus (EUW)
: Why no one wants to play Support?!
I'd be playing a supp if there was an actual healer, not one spell healer.
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SeekerK (EUNE)
: Hello MezmerizeR93 When you had a low FPS game, does the issue go away in the next game? Are you using PC or laptop? Sounds like your computer is heating up too much after some games. You can use a program like [HWMonitor ](https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html) to see how hot your computer components get during the use. If any components gets over 80'C, then you should deffenetly open and clean your computer, if that's not working, then you might have to buy new components.
PC, fps drop happens every 6-7 games. One game 00 fps, second game like nothing has happened. All that started from last patch, never happened before.
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: I am neither a %%%%%% or French, but you are most certainly mad.
Of course I'm mad, I can't lay one damn game as it should. 6/10 games I've had an afk or someone getting mad. Why should I lose lp because of someone else being a degenerate? Why should the rest of us suffer because of one %%%%%%, even tho rest of the team played well until someone decides to go afk/troll/feed... Give lp based on personal score and people that are playing good will progress regardless of someone trolling/feeding/afk and also there can be no carried players... It's sooo simple if you think just a little about it, just a little... I swear, majority of this community is kid, crybabies, manchilds and legit mental patients.
: top tells me to go to aushwitz and do die, I'm 3/5 kalista Hahahah sorry dude but that is quite funny
hahah it's fcking hilarious hahaha. Are you legit re.tard or just french?
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