: Knowing all this you get upset that a machine doesn't pick up on your "jokes"?
> [{quoted}](name=twA Divine,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=klmW1Etx,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2018-03-23T07:18:59.136+0000) > > Knowing all this you get upset that a machine doesn't pick up on your "jokes"? HOLY BEJEEZUS ARE YOU PEOPLE ON THE SLOWER SIDE OF SPECTRUM OR JUST DIDNT LEARN READING COMPREHENSION IN SCHOOL???????? This is like 10 times im explaining this to somebody here. This post isnt about me being banned for using the word f*ggot, its about not banning my friend, who in my opinion was doing something much worse over the course of several games......
: But if you didn't report them why are you complaining that they got away with it?!? It's like getting robbed but not reporting it to the police and then complaining about the police being inept at their job for not catching him... http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/540/811/e45.png
Dude are you %%%%%%ed? Im not complaining that they got away with it. I was answering the question vulpine and strigina asked. They asked if Im certain that only my friend reported me and I said yes, because only I got banned and I was the only one reported by my friend, he didnt report anybody else who said that word.
Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=klmW1Etx,comment-id=0004000000010000000000000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-03-22T16:42:57.701+0000) > > Where is the inconvenience part? "opens the door for people claiming they were insulting friends and therefore they should be unbanned en masse." here?
: Perhaps people just didn't report him? Sometimes I also forget to report a flaming guy, because I just want to start the next game and spend as few time as possible on that time after playing. Of course I wanted to report him, but I just left the lobby to fast. Perhaps taht happened with your friend. No reports => no punishment.
> [{quoted}](name=Gnominator,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=klmW1Etx,comment-id=000400000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-22T16:40:48.593+0000) > > Perhaps people just didn't report him? Sometimes I also forget to report a flaming guy, because I just want to start the next game and spend as few time as possible on that time after playing. Of course I wanted to report him, but I just left the lobby to fast. Perhaps taht happened with your friend. No reports => no punishment. No, as I said in my post, we were 3 premades and one of us was consistently flaming throughout the 10 games and we were reporting him (the two of us) every single game. He didnt say words like f*ggot n*gger c*nt, but he did wish cancer and death.
N4sty Nas (EUNE)
: 2 of them did, I didnt report them because im not so fragile that homophobic slur aimed at nobody causes me to have mental breakdown.
Also I said the word first, why the f should I report them?
: >Yes actually I went, and added all the players that were in that game. Nobody but me got banned. were the other players using homophobic slurs? and if so, did you bother reporting them too?
2 of them did, I didnt report them because im not so fragile that homophobic slur aimed at nobody causes me to have mental breakdown.
N4sty Nas (EUNE)
: For example if one player says "Hey can somebody say to me what is a bundle of sticks called" and you reply "%%%got".
Wait.... It doesnt even censor the whole word? Just the first part of it? Then I guess you should also get banned for saying the word %%%ocytosis......
: > So basically context shouldnt be relevant because its little inconvenient for riot, got it. please present a situation in which being toxic was a productive way to make the game enjoyable for everyone involved and didn't deter the focus from playing the game to the irrelevant protection of your sensitive ego that got hurt because another player "started it" alternatively please provide an argument as to why you thing being toxic in a chat you share with people you've only just met encourages teamplay i'm waiting
For example if one player says "Hey can somebody say to me what is a bundle of sticks called" and you reply "%%%got".
Shiwah (EUW)
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Literally your first comment in this discussion says that "Riot should look at the context opens the door for people claiming they were insulting friends and therefore they should be unbanned en masse."
Shiwah (EUW)
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Well they dont get punished from my experience. So basically context shouldnt be relevant because its little inconvenient for riot, got it.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Well my ban was definitely unfair, since context does matter. Or should matter at least. But I dont use the "my friend did something worse" argument as a leverage to me getting unbanned, I use it as a point to show how stupid is the instant feedback system.
Vulpine (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=N4sty Nas,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=klmW1Etx,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-03-22T13:24:37.439+0000) > > ... but nobody else in the game said they will report me, most of them even agreed with me and called him f*ggot too. I was the only one banned and he said he reported only me, not them. Are you certain that nobody reported you? Are you certain that only you get banned? Are you certain ....
Am I certain that nobody else reported me? No, but its likely that only my friend reported me Am I certain that only I got banned? Yes actually I went, and added all the players that were in that game. Nobody but me got banned.
: I'm 100% sure he's flagged, and sooner or later he'll get his punishment as well. The only thing you need to do is watch yourself, and not screw up again after the 14 day ban. This is YOUR LAST CHANCE, for a year or 2... If you get banned again, this time it'll be a perma.
But the account he was playing on was 2week banned about a month or 2 ago. Its just very stupid that 1 word gets you banned without any previous violations and being consitently toxic doesnt get you ban at all.
: So you're wasting Riot's time by essentially filing false reports "because you're friends". Frankly you AND your friend deserve permabans for wasting their time.
Well its automated, no riot employee is actually checking the reports so im not wasting anybodys time. And yeah I actually do agree. You should get punished for filling pointless reports. This is the only thing that concerns you from my post?
Strigina (EUNE)
: >(ONLY HE REPORTED ME) And how exactly do you know this?
I dont know it for certain, but nobody else in the game said they will report me, most of them even agreed with me and called him f*ggot too. I was the only one banned and he said he reported only me, not them.
Zyzyx (EUW)
: Please avoid strawman arguments. React to things he actually said, not things you put in his mouth.
Oh I forgot that western europe has been pussified, in my country we dont consider the words by themselves as hate speech.
: No it's not, and will get the same punishment as the homophobia or racial slurs. Nobody cares who your friends are, or if you joke or not. You violate the TOS and you get punished. This is as clear as I can make it for you. Cheers
But then why my friend didnt receive any punishment for being extremely toxic in a lot of games?
sirDarts (EUW)
: Yes, homophobic slurs are considered hatespeech.
Do you perhaps have blue dyed hair, and are using terms like wage gap and safe space unironically? Also to my other question, should teachers be punished for reading huckleberry finn?
Shiwah (EUW)
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Why would you assume Im trying to use it as leverage to get unbanned? Im just saying its very stupid, that they ban you for using slurs and not ban you for wishing cancer and death. They should ban you for both or not at all.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Well everybody is missing half of my point "So if I understand this correctly, is wishing somebody death and cancer, leaving games and being total %%%% more acceptable than calling my friend a fggot as a joke?"
sirDarts (EUW)
: No it doesn't, hatespeech needs a hard punishment.
Hatespeech? Calling my friend f*ggot is hatespeech? Well then I guess every teacher in america who read huckleberry finn to their students should be punished.
: > [{quoted}](name=N4sty Nas,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=klmW1Etx,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-03-22T12:10:40.952+0000) > > Well then that means the system is absolutely terrible. It doesnt really punish bad behavior, it punishes single words. That means I could literally write the word f/ggot without any context or any aim towards somebody in the chat and id get banned for it. Sometimes I feel like this game is trying to appeal to 6 year olds or something..... That means you need to learn how things work and be smarter. Riot is a company, they will not spend tons of money to understand when someone is "joking" and when is serious. Homophoby? Nope. Racism? Neither. Sexism? No no. Some other stuffs like this? In doubt shut up.
But it also means they have terrible system
HitYourHead (EUNE)
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Well then that means the system is absolutely terrible. It doesnt really punish bad behavior, it punishes single words. That means I could literally write the word f/ggot without any context or any aim towards somebody in the chat and id get banned for it. Sometimes I feel like this game is trying to appeal to 6 year olds or something.....
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