Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Orvvadasz1,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ExAE3JkZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-24T17:06:14.752+0000) > > It only costs 400 gold > You get very low health and low AD or AP compared to the items before and no mana or health regen and 0 cooldown reduction. No. You're missing the bigger picture. It's not "only 400 gold". You pay 400 gold for EVERYTHING it gives, including stats and wards later on. Let's get a few facts straight here. - Old item cost - Spellthief - 400 G - Eye of the Frost- 850 G - Eye of the Watchers - 1800 G - New item cost - Spellthief - 400G - Frostfang - 400 G - Shard of True Ice - 400 G - Old item stats - Spellthief - 10 AP, 25% mana regen, 2 G per 10 - Eye of the Frost - 20 AP, 10% cdr, 50% mana regen, 2 G per 10 - Eye of the Watchers - 35 AP, 10% cdr, 50% mana regen, 200 HP, 2 G per 10 - New item stats - Spellthief - 8 AP, 10 HP, 2 G per 10 - Frostfang - 15 AP, 70 HP, 3 G per 10 - Shard of True Ice - 60 AP, 150 HP, 3 G per 10 - Old item gold efficiency (stats only) - Spellthief - 343 G worth of stats - 85.75% gold efficient - Eye of the Frost - 824 G worth of stats - 96.94% gold efficient - Eye of the Watchers - 1683 worth of stats - 93.5% gold effiecient - New item gold efficiency (stats only) - Spellthief - 201 G worth of stats - 50.25% gold efficient - Frostfang - 513 G worth of stats - 128.25% gold efficient - Shard of True Ice - 1705 worth of stats - 426.25% gold efficient More obvious than this is impossible. It's clear that the new support items are way superior to the old alternatives for one simple reason: you don't have to pay for the upgrades. The gold income you lose from its passive effect (22 G per hit) is **heavily** outweighed by what you gain. In other words, the 1400 G you don't have to spend on upgrades can be spent somewhere else: - Missing the 50% mana regen? Buy Chalice for 900 G; - Want more cooldown reduction? Buy Fiendish Codex or Kindlegem for 900 G or 800 G, respectively; - Feeling the crave for more damage? Needlessly Large Rod on sale today! Only 1250 G. Supports are "punished" early game because we only get 50% of our gold's worth in stats. The missing mana regen early on is a big hit, but, once you recall the first time, that problem disappears because you can invest whatever gold you earned into what you're missing. When you earn your first upgrade, then your investment starts paying for itself... a lot. You're a lot stronger now than what you would be if you had to buy the upgrade yourself. I hope my point is clear. ######The same argument can be made for the other support items. {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
How do you get those items tho? You get only 1000 gold from the new supp items after that its only the passive gold regen. Also you left out that the old supp item regenerated gold even after lvl 3. You cant count that in when you compare the 2. The old supp items gave you healing when sharing a minion or dealt bonus dmg when poking. Also the poking and the farm sharing supp items are no where near balanced. The new poking item is definetly superior to the farm sharing. You can gather gold far faster with Spellthief than with the Pauldron. It gives you much better stats too. You still didnt talked about the mid and late game gold. How do you get gold if you are a little behind and doesnt get kills? Thanks for answers.
: yea everyone wants a supp that doesn't ward {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Nobody said that you shouldnt ward. I said you have to choose. Either you have better stats or ward.
Rioter Comments
: URF still not here
NA boys are already playing you dipshit. Ridicoulus that we have to wait till 0:00. Meanwhile EU has 3 million players. NA has 1.2 million.
Rioter Comments
: It is basically a completely new game, not a game mode. So it won't replace anything, but it will stay.
Yeah, and it will get a ranked mode. f that. Give me back my randomized events.{{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: in that case my first hypothesis was most likely wrong
My hypotesis is that Riot is a greedy s..t and want you to buy skins rather than getting it free.
: Maybe it's cause the value of the tokens from this event is lower (aka you can get more of them)
Then why didnt get the prices of other items in the shop up too?
Shamose (EUW)
: > Also I dont think that the number of people playing in practice tool would affect the servers that much. Well you can think that. But Riot seems to think differently. And only one of the two has the actual stats on how the practice tool affects the server load.
> But Riot seems to think differently. Well that only means that many people want to use PT. Also Pt has an actual effect on your skill level and gives you advantage. Playing TFT only gives you brain cancer when you cant get a common champion from 20 rerolls to get your lvl 3 WW.
Rioter Comments
: Game mode is silly, it has nothing to do with tactics at all. What champs you can buy is random, item drop is also random. Buy hey riot you know what ?? It's not random whether i'm gonna play this mode at all, it's pretty solid, i'm not :) There are like 300 million better board games out there, and tbh this is not even close to top 299.999 million :) I wan't skill based strategy games, not random BS like this game.
True, also f.... them for locking down practice tool just because many people wanted to play this s.... This is worse than EA with its "surprise mechanics".{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: From my experience, by the time epics and legendaries start showing up, the commons are incredibly difficult to find. Even early game has this problem. What's funny is that, I can find multiple Kayle's to get a quick 2 star but can't find enough for the Noble Garen/Vayne/Fiora who are all commons. But as for the items? I do agree it needs to be balanced like everyone is guaranteed 3 items and the drop rate is more balanced so you don't see someone with 3 {{item:1038}} and someone with 3 Spatulas or someone with 3 {{item:1031}} . Then of course, some champions are incredibly unbalanced. Why would I use someone like Fiora when Darius is so much better as an example
I had 8 warwick and I didnt find the 9. for 6 matchup straight. While I rerolled the champ pool like 18 times.
Furnado (EUNE)
: Share your thoughts on the state of League [Discussion]
I stopped playing League of Legends 3 yers ago. I only come back every 2 month to see how this game falls to chaos because of the incompetence of the Riot. They hardly ever cared about the actual gameplay, only released skins to get more money. They just want this nonsense to go around for anorher 1-3 years to get the most money out of it and then they turn off the servers. I literally enjoy seeing how the community and the Riot destroy every remaining pieces of this game. Never seen any game more toxic than this and I am happy I left this "ship" before it started sinking.{{champion:27}}
: Thanks for destroying Rengar.
Yes but he just tear you apart.
TTekkers (EUW)
: What the removal of Normal Draft will ACTUALLY do.
Dont touch the normal Draft riot! "CANT TOUCH THIS!"
Riddarn (EUNE)
: What the hell, they actually removed normal draft pick? Are they retarded?
Infernape (EUW)
: I identify as an attack helicopter and if you say otherwise, you're oppressing me! **-mic drop-**
: Need help with my champion pool!
Annie(my main character), Garen and Jax is in the meta. Nasus is strong cuz his passiv is rly strong. I think You can try Brand on mid or maybe kha'ziks.
Ajkju (EUNE)
: Snow day Gankplank
Rito pls make this happen!
: STOP BOOSTING! upvote this petition if you want to end this mockery for good
How can riot stop it? How? Riot dont know who is booster and who is normal player.
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=EUW Boards Smurf,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=xA4Y2Qx5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-19T15:36:09.146+0000) > > ''Yasuo are people too. Kinda'' > > Since this Riot owes my full respect, no matter what they do, even if i still want the stuff they sometimes smoke {{item:3070}} Some Rioter please answer me what you guys are smoking i need it too (Litteraly) Like Graves, we don't smoke any more. We Vape.
Smoke weed every day. =^)
Madliv (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=EasternBladeStar,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=dQQfnNt9,comment-id=0008000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-16T18:10:33.788+0000) > > Your friend list is full :-( at least you will not be friend-zoned...:(
: new Loading-Screen?
: i've came here to get the answer to wtf is this?
I dont know dude. XD
Rioter Comments
CJXander (EUNE)
: 40 Rp short for having 2000 rp :(
Mcrozah (EUW)
: when you refuse to trade your role
: Historic League Memes
Make LoL great again! ( #trumped)
: Make Urf Great Again
Make America Great Again! If you know what i mean.
L2P Kosü (EUW)
: DDOSing
Maybe they was premade in one network. And internet was going down
XanderKing (EUNE)
: What in the name of Gragas Christ is this thing on the left?! http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FNR74ZfonDk/UdskxC0RDuI/AAAAAAAARY0/gqJGC9jyRUA/s1600/wtf5.gif
It is an application that corrigate your face and it make a bear or hamburger or anything from your face.
Braum59100 (EUNE)
: Don't tilt, you can always still win, here's the proof!
Gj !,ohh teemo pfujj (a normal lol player) no just jokeing nice job
: [Story] Hope in the community. Hope in humanity.
Infernape (EUW)
: That bug gives him a ridiculous amount of free damage. It will probably be fixed in the upcoming patch... hopefully. Tbh I'm tired of seeing Yasuo.
What a bug??
LovroLox (EUNE)
: ***
Haha.... nope. I am mage main. My favorit character is Ahri. And i can kill yasuo when i want so go and cry more babys.
: Tank Yasuo exists, and it does ridiculous amounts of damage whilst being pretty damned durable. Also, there's that ult bug on his that people keep going on about.
I dont talk about this tank yasuo monster child. I talk about the real yasuo.
Barr0ck (EUW)
: About Yasuo...
Yasuo is balanced. Just dont feed him. If you give 2-3 or more kill to yasuo then its your fail. Yasuo mid and late is strong.
: chempionship riven
What? What kind of language is this?
Arzin (EUW)
: Ad assassin champ: no name
Frawila (EUNE)
: I Tried everything exept reinstall,But right now i'm repairing the client if it didn't work i will reinstall it and btw it's nice to meet ya lel
Have luck! :-)
Frawila (EUNE)
: I Tried tho anyway Thanks! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Or maybe the reinstall fix it. Or you can try to start the game in system administrator mode. ( I dont know how the english man say it. I am just 15 and Hungarian so i just learn it.)
: Finally after hard work.
"God" job! My division to this season is silver 5.
Frawila (EUNE)
: I can't even play
Write to the support. Hopefully they can help you.
: SAVE 1,200 IP ON EACH 6300 CHAMP
But you need to do this tons of blue essence.
yarror (EUW)
: hunter necklace with kha'zix head (woodcarving)
Dragon0302 (EUNE)
: I got banned for no reason
Illegal programs? ( mkjogo or script) player abuse? Tons of afk? Only service work (it can be)? When not write to the support.
Rioter Comments
: What is Zed's counterplay?
Blind draft and bann this champ. ( But he is banned in the 90% of the games.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} )
Tiffan (EUW)
: How do you carry a bad ADC as support?
I think Lux and Kayle is strong enough to carry your adc when he cant play but you cant 2 vs 1. You need help from the jungler.
iRawren (EUW)
: Game mode idea - "Not so unique" - Removing the "unique" passives.
Six Guardian angel and zilean. Never die! XD


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