Swaguani (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=PusimTravu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1H8bsim6,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-20T20:38:39.957+0000) > > Dude, you just described yourself there, almost percfectly also. > > Also, jungler ganks counter anyone. And when she has her flash up she one shots any of the long range mages so no, not really. I described the account i posted on yes, my eune account was dia 4 in season 4, and my euw main is currently (after a year break+decay) getting 30 lp a match in plat, im fine. > [{quoted}](name=ssamiaa,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1H8bsim6,comment-id=000d00000000,timestamp=2016-08-20T20:13:13.019+0000) > > Pfft if your gonna speak with 5% of you're brain don't talk at all pls. your talking like you're mentally challanged he hasnt said anything about the lane before 6 has he? he didnt say he lost then he might as well have let her tower huge but she just farmed up good enough for her then she went back and 100-0 him so pls read. Who's this low elo riven wannabe? If you hit 6 before annie and kill her, she can barely recover, ever. > challanged Ye
> I described the account i posted on yes, my eune account was dia 4 in season 4, and my euw main is currently (after a year break+decay) getting 30 lp a match in plat, im fine. It doesnt really matter i just found it funny.
Swaguani (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=PusimTravu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1H8bsim6,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-08-20T14:42:32.853+0000) > > Why does everyone have a need to tell me how to play ? > Dont worry about me. > > Considering you tanked your mmr to like gold 5 ON EUNE i would+even tho ill admit annies 6 is kinda cheese, any long range mage+decent jungler>her ps: support annie is balls, i only play it cuz fun
Dude, you just described yourself there, almost percfectly also. Also, jungler ganks counter anyone. And when she has her flash up she one shots any of the long range mages so no, not really.
Swaguani (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ssamiaa,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=1H8bsim6,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2016-08-20T19:40:28.886+0000) > > GUYS pls im gonna sum this up for you for everyone who says azir this azir that. this is NOT a thread to show you how good he can play azir this is a thread about how little counterplay annie provides It matters, he shoulda won lane before she was 6 as azir
Still missing the point but anyway.Did u ever try to play azir ?
: {{item:1057}} gg wp she's useless actually good azir counter annie so hard she even can't last hit under tower
Had to check your account. You are an Annie main im sure u enjoy boosting urself with her. You never won a game with any other champion and even ur annie KDA is terrible. At the same point u are missing the point of this post and its not if azir coutners annie on not. And next time u want to post please do it with some arguments.
Jarwan (EUW)
: Are you suggesting Annie has no counter play? A Leblanc could do the same that Annie does and she doesn't need flash as her W works the same. The thing is you played Azir who doesn't do well early game and scales much better mid to late. Your soldiers will constantly push the lane and her, so far back that she will constantly be hugging the turret and won't be able to roam. Annie uses flash to initiate and escape. Force her to use her flash with the help of a jungler or just use your soldiers to farm safely and anticipate her stun. Riot has already made it easy to spot her stun by displaying it over her head. I'm not sure what more warnings you require. She is a burst mage, designed to burst squishes down to ashes and she isn't the only champ that can do that. The biggest gripe with people crying about Annie is the fact that they can't react fast enough to the flash combo so the simple solution is to chip at her advantages. She has no escape once the flash is gone so if she does use it then let her push and set up a gank with your jungler. If Annie is caught short without a flash, she will die most of the time from a good gank. As Azir I would have pushed for tower and stay away from her till mid game and force the wave constantly.
No lb couldnt do the same, not even close, especially against someone who knows to play. And nothing that u said makes any sense. Are u suggesting that people should just react to her Flash>R and dodge it ? First of all it requires flash or a fast mobility spell, so even if u dodge it she traded her flash for yours. And second of all that combo cant be dodged if annie is not stupid enought to make it obvious. Maybe in your elo people need 5 seconds to do that combo i really dont know.
: this is the mid lane, but im sure that you need to work much better because even when I was leveling up my first time I never got flash Q+W+R ignited and killed by an annie. If Im against an annie the best option would be to apply pressure and poke heavily so that she wont take the risk of putting down her combo on you.
Why does everyone have a need to tell me how to play ? Dont worry about me. And are u trying to point out that im lying or something ? Also please read the part where i said that we just came back to lane again when i got one shot. So what poke and stuff are u even talking about ?
: a good (and more helpful tip than the one these scrubs on the boards are giving) is if you are playing a control mage in mid vs someone with high burst damage, start by rushing the corresponding resistance items: {{item:1057}} vs AP - {{item:3191}} vs AD. yes, there is a chance they may still kill you, but those stats help a lot in surviving them and you'll notice. Also, just get them, you don't have to upgrade them immediately, you can continue your core build then upgrade them later, but the resistance is lifesaving. also, {{item:3001}} or {{item:3157}} are very strong anyway, but maybe not always good to rush, but definitely the two items I mentioned earlier.
Even tho it can someone hurt to go out of your way with build paths, its a good suggestion and a decent counter. So thank you.
blissbomb (EUW)
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If cant one shot you at 6 and all others are skillshot, skillshot, skillshot, skillshot and more skillshots. I dont know how good you guys are at dodging those but if u were good. Those champs by themselves wouldn't be making you much problems. ( Maybe a certain player would but that is not what we are talking about here )
: srry to disappoint you he said she went back to buy a rod (so she's already full hp) then flashed and one shot i don't which azir you are but if you dont have god like reaction time you. are. going. to. die.
I do actually play azir and i did even win that lane because he wasnt a really good player, thats not the point, but the fact that she one shot me **as soon** as she saw me is not ok.. And like ssamiaa said you cant either expect or react to that. ( Well i guess i can expect it now xD Learn from ur mistakes )
: I think the only change Annie needs to be less frustrating is to get a higher range on her ult but at the same time making it a skill shot just like that : https://youtu.be/tEnsqpThaFg?t=211 You can make some very good plays while less being forced to flash and it gives a nice counter play to ennemies.
Excellent suggestion but that would kinda be a rework to her not a nerf or a buff. So yea :(
: hello PusimTravu I can see this is your first time playing mid lane. Now for your 2nd post do you want a "i want leblanc nerfed" cookie or a "i want fizz nerfed" cookie? I might have some left over ones for talon once he gets buffed and starts one shotting again but that is mid lane... burst... and low health... the fact you didnt expect to be one shot is 500 times more surprising to me. let me run down all the champs that can 100 to 0 you at 6. {{champion:103}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:1}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:143}}
Now, that was a bit rude, no im not playing mid for the first time. First of all, you are wrong, every single champ u put in there has a counter play and none of them can one shot like Annie. ( Most of them can but they have to land a skill shot to do so, which makes it much more easy to counter ). If a player actually knows how to play mid you dont lose to leblanc and fizz unless they are good too, so no i wont be making those posts. Second of all, I dont want to be rude now, but u are a bit lower division then me, and silver is exactly where even i can go and play like 20/0 with Annie. And once againt not to be rude, but maybe that is why any of those can one shot you at 6. Problem with Annie is that shes as simple and easy as it gets but still really strong leaving no room for counters ( especially if she has her flash up).
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