: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yGGRqdB0,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-22T17:16:18.573+0000) > > I created a post about my ticket to support with a screens where guy admits that he trolled and feed without reason. They are telling BS that it's hard to detect who is trolling and who has bad day Because that's the truth. Intentional feeding is way harder to detect that verbal abuse for example (or distinguish from having a bad game). Everything is crystal clear in one's chat logs, whereas this takes a bit more information and insight. > Maybe some people are just protected? Or it just depends if u are lucky or not? ... I think that there are no real people in support, it's just auto-banning system that picks one out of 20 reports and just don't care. Now that's some allegation.
> Because that's the truth. Intentional feeding is way harder to detect that verbal abuse for example (or distinguish from having a bad game). Everything is crystal clear in one's chat logs, whereas this takes a bit more information and insight. Then please tell me why they refused to ban a person who admitted on the chat that YES he intentionally AFK, troll and feed? What was their excuse this time? Because "bad day" is not going to work this time. And before you say that "maybe it was once" then what you would tell people who were getting instabans for writing popular 3letter word on the chat? Looking at the comfort of playing you prefer to play with some flamer you can just mute or playing with troll who is confident about - not fearing any ban??
: Reporting is basically a waste of time
I created a post about my ticket to support with a screens where guy admits that he trolled and feed without reason. They are telling BS that it's hard to detect who is trolling and who has bad day and when you shove them proof in their faces they are doing nothing about it. Maybe some people are just protected? Or it just depends if u are lucky or not? ... I think that there are no real people in support, it's just auto-banning system that picks one out of 20 reports and just don't care.
Haze97 (EUW)
: How about the mods on here tell people to man up instead of mashing the downvote or report button on every answer they don't agree with? Or is that too much to take before they run to their mommies to complain? I got reported for telling a person to 'go learn English' because I genuinely comprehend one bit of what he was trying to say, but guess telling people to learn a language is the same as punching them through the screen these days.
> - about 20 hours ago How about the mods on here tell people to man up instead of mashing the downvote or report Oh boii this way 50% of banned people on LoL would still have accounts. Riot wouldn't like it. XD
: Wew. "Brand is not a support" - when I see such things I don't know if someone trolls me or just is new to this game. Let me tell you why Brand is a good support: 1. He can stun which is either life saving or helping to get a kill. 2. He has high damage and can easly peel and initiate a teamfight. This is called "ap support". Not every support need shield or heal to support adc and team. Just remember to buy wards and be aware what is happening on the map. And Brand's roams are really good. You are mistaking "support" with "guardian" (popular for example in Smite). For me it's 2 different things, because guardian GUARDS (aka throws shields, heals, tank for team) while support SUPPORTS team with his skills and also - sometimes - with damage. You are not ap caster because your actions focus on being supportive and protective but this doesn't mean you have to deal 0 damage... Look at Janna - She has shield, heal and CC but she is paper and have no damage. When Rengar or someone will jump on her she can dissapear in seconds unless shielding herself and protecting with ult (= you are losing 2 important things to help adc and team). I find it really frustrating to not be able do anything when adc is dead, away or just very bad. With tanks and ap supports you are more independent and helpful, at least in this meta. Do I like it? Well, not exactly. I love playing Soraka, Nami, Janna and I still play them when I want to but I would think 1000 times before taking them on ranked. If enemy have Zed, Yasuo, Rengar, Kha etc. then you can be just a free kill in game. :/
Oh and one more thing - support is a role, about how you act. For example I really like playing with Lee on bot, he is not typical support champ but with a good teamwork we can own botlane and do much in late too. The same goes with Rammus, Poppy etc. etc. I like this kind of games because you have so many options and you can try new things and check if it works. You don't have to pick always the same champions and buy the same stuff. And I hope Riot will leave us such freedom.
Lleajy (EUW)
: The good answer is no. Brand is not a support, nor is malphite or zyra. Those are just good because they have aoe and cc but they have 0 skill to support. No heal, no shield nor utility skill. Riot doesn't even know what a support should be, that tells a lot.
Wew. "Brand is not a support" - when I see such things I don't know if someone trolls me or just is new to this game. Let me tell you why Brand is a good support: 1. He can stun which is either life saving or helping to get a kill. 2. He has high damage and can easly peel and initiate a teamfight. This is called "ap support". Not every support need shield or heal to support adc and team. Just remember to buy wards and be aware what is happening on the map. And Brand's roams are really good. You are mistaking "support" with "guardian" (popular for example in Smite). For me it's 2 different things, because guardian GUARDS (aka throws shields, heals, tank for team) while support SUPPORTS team with his skills and also - sometimes - with damage. You are not ap caster because your actions focus on being supportive and protective but this doesn't mean you have to deal 0 damage... Look at Janna - She has shield, heal and CC but she is paper and have no damage. When Rengar or someone will jump on her she can dissapear in seconds unless shielding herself and protecting with ult (= you are losing 2 important things to help adc and team). I find it really frustrating to not be able do anything when adc is dead, away or just very bad. With tanks and ap supports you are more independent and helpful, at least in this meta. Do I like it? Well, not exactly. I love playing Soraka, Nami, Janna and I still play them when I want to but I would think 1000 times before taking them on ranked. If enemy have Zed, Yasuo, Rengar, Kha etc. then you can be just a free kill in game. :/
Reqone (EUNE)
: Whether it is worthwhile playing on the support
I'm afraid to pick supports like Janna, Lulu, Nami etc. anymore. Also I prefer more independend one since adc role is pretty weak right now. I would suggest either tanks or ap supports (like Brand).
Rioter Comments
: there is no real problem with yi, the problem is that Riot made true damage (which used to be a BIG FKING DEAL given that it was restricted to ultimate abilities or just sprinkled in small doses) into goddamnedtap water. you just need an item and here you go, true damage. what's that? you don't want to spend money? no problem, here is a rune that gives you true damage. Yi is OP only because he benefits from conqueror a lot more than other championsas his build already has a ton of ad and attack speed. this problem will never be solved until Riot reverts infinity edge and removes conqueror and stormrazor
Especially that some champ doesn't need much kills and farm to do a lot in late while champs with lots of money and items are being f****ed by them. How is it even balanced?
: The problem with master yi and many other champions is the true damage on items and that new guinso. If they rework master yi he will be a garbage champion and nobody will play him but however if they nerf the %/hp items (because most people will rush them and attack speed or tanky items ffs even a trynda will be op with jung item, blade and guinso) everything will be balanced and they won't kill 3-5k hp tanks that has 100-300 armor in 1-2 seconds. Rito should create items only for ranged and only for melee champions so if they nerf some items they won't affect the other roles/classes because if they nerf %/hp items champions like kog, vayne are screwed too while the fighters like yi gets balanced.
I start to really hate playing botlane. Because no matter how good we are doing, we can't do anything on popular fed champs. I'm saying it aside of this topic. I was few games ago fed MF and couldn't kill Darius with 2 kills. I had to use everything and my ultimate, support had to get ignite and Veigar ult to finish him off. I know tanks should be tanky and I'm ok with it but on the other hand THE SAME Darius can kill me on 2 skills + ult. So we have very tanky champs who have very high damage and we have "adc" who can't survive 1v1 with them. Well... That's just {{summoner:3}}
Asura (EUNE)
: As a Leona, you need to CC Yi while your team is in a position to burst him down. If your team doesn't burst him during your CC, you can't do anything.
Yeah, but Vayne DID hit him. All the time. And she was fed. Damn I don't know why she couldn't kill him. It's still weird for me.
Antenora (EUW)
: {{champion:11}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:157}} are anti-tank champions. You're playing Leona, a champion with a bullshit amount of CC. CC him and have your team kill him.
honestly don't want to write the same thing 1000x times...
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=XaKFcPbJ,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T14:02:58.503+0000) > > I don't know what to say to you, if I knew it is such a problem to believe I'd make a screen. I have no reason to lie. I'm just telling you what I saw. And no, they were not "jerking'. But only me and Vayne focused Yi. Still I don't know how it was so hard to kill him but it was. Believe it or not. Then your team %%%%ed up. That's not Yi being "op" (he's far from OP)
Yeah I said this game was not perfect but I play this game 5-6 years and I never had situation where me + Vayne can't kill Yi/Yasuo/Zed alone. Never. I know he had Lulu help, maybe it was a bit too much for us but still, they (or more like just Yi) won 2 teamfights with 4 fed enemy champs. That's a bit sad >.<
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: If you buy one of the skins, you'll get a discount for the other one so the total price will be 2821 RP Just like with the pajama guardian skins
wow, actually i didnt know that and bought bundle -_-
: I've seen your match, the problem there is not YI but LULU's ulti, Sterak's Gage passive, full stacked Guinsoo and Conqueror. There's no way that late game Yi can be killed meanwhile in Lulu's ulti. But don't complain much because Leona in lane is as ligma as Yi late game.
It's not "complain", I wanted to know what possibly I could do to win against him. Also, I know how good Leona is, that's why I don't know what went wrong. Especially that Lulu was not someone skilled or at least a threat while on lane and early teamfights.
Darwinion (EUW)
: Everything he does that is true damage is auto attacks with his E active, so that means your team was literally jerking while you lanced + instantly used Q / R, or used R + lance + Q with almost no delay. Sorry, but there is to much that isn't adding up, for your team to have such a massive lead going to mid-game with an amazing communication and proceed with all the buffs, to be defeated by one of the easiest to counter champions when you play Leona, because even her alone can lock him own without any trouble.
I don't know what to say to you, if I knew it is such a problem to believe I'd make a screen. I have no reason to lie. I'm just telling you what I saw. And no, they were not "jerking'. But only me and Vayne focused Yi. Still I don't know how it was so hard to kill him but it was. Believe it or not.
Yraco (EUW)
: I think there's a good chance of British English being the most common here because Britain is part of Europe, which means most native English speakers will learn the British way of things. Also, with regards to the last part of your comment, what do you dislike about the British pronunciation and accent? I've never really seen anyone comment on it before so I'd be interested to see what other people think of our voices.
I have no idea how people can dislike this beautiful accent. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fdLiHP15,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T12:00:02.352+0000) > > I&#x27;m just commenting what you wrote. I think everyone can have an opinion. And I see that under this topic people madly downvote everyone that have something else to say. > > Skins are a bonus. It always was. You can buy it or not. If Riot decided that you can get icon and border only in a pack then they have every right to do it. This is how marketing/busisness works. And it&#x27;s like that in every game I play. > > There will be people who can spend money on it to enjoy the content and there will be people who think it&#x27;s pointless and will play without it. > If you are between - it&#x27;s not Riot&#x27;s problem. > And before you start downvoting (nah, don&#x27;t care really) and criticizing such pov then let me tell you - every game, while growing, will rise costs and change strategy to grow even more. We should be happy that this game is still free and any additional content don&#x27;t help people to win matches. How **marketing** works is that they try to push for more profit at less cost, current variant skins being shining example, while trying to convince us we're lucky they did. How **business** works is that at the other end of the rope there are aware customers that oppose such ploys and make noise so others will not just walk into it. This is a needed and healthy thing to do as it keeps things balanced and ironicallly both players and Riot get the best deal. If Riot's sales ploys (and there are fair amounts of these already) get outta control, at one point the straw will break and players will walk. If we, the customers had everything our way, Riot would go broke;p I can understand that. But right now, by adamantly shutting icons and borders in mega bundle, not providing dedicated solar and lunar bundles, nor any way to earn icons and borders via missions, Riot is showing their greed is in overdrive. The very modest amount of quotes compared to recent legendaries (God King Garen has 3x longer special interaction vid!!), along with Pajama skins is showing that trend clear as day. Ofc it's their business and they don't owe us to put icons and borders outside the mega bundle. But we the customers equally do not owe them to go along with it, buying (and paying!!) twice more then we should, if all we want is one skin variant and it's accessories.
Also - I'm sure that Riot will change it if they will see that people don't buy such bundles - until then they will experiment and check what makes more money.
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fdLiHP15,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T12:00:02.352+0000) > > I&#x27;m just commenting what you wrote. I think everyone can have an opinion. And I see that under this topic people madly downvote everyone that have something else to say. > > Skins are a bonus. It always was. You can buy it or not. If Riot decided that you can get icon and border only in a pack then they have every right to do it. This is how marketing/busisness works. And it&#x27;s like that in every game I play. > > There will be people who can spend money on it to enjoy the content and there will be people who think it&#x27;s pointless and will play without it. > If you are between - it&#x27;s not Riot&#x27;s problem. > And before you start downvoting (nah, don&#x27;t care really) and criticizing such pov then let me tell you - every game, while growing, will rise costs and change strategy to grow even more. We should be happy that this game is still free and any additional content don&#x27;t help people to win matches. How **marketing** works is that they try to push for more profit at less cost, current variant skins being shining example, while trying to convince us we're lucky they did. How **business** works is that at the other end of the rope there are aware customers that oppose such ploys and make noise so others will not just walk into it. This is a needed and healthy thing to do as it keeps things balanced and ironicallly both players and Riot get the best deal. If Riot's sales ploys (and there are fair amounts of these already) get outta control, at one point the straw will break and players will walk. If we, the customers had everything our way, Riot would go broke;p I can understand that. But right now, by adamantly shutting icons and borders in mega bundle, not providing dedicated solar and lunar bundles, nor any way to earn icons and borders via missions, Riot is showing their greed is in overdrive. The very modest amount of quotes compared to recent legendaries (God King Garen has 3x longer special interaction vid!!), along with Pajama skins is showing that trend clear as day. Ofc it's their business and they don't owe us to put icons and borders outside the mega bundle. But we the customers equally do not owe them to go along with it, buying (and paying!!) twice more then we should, if all we want is one skin variant and it's accessories.
> How marketing works is that they try to push for more profit at less cost, current variant skins being shining example, while trying to convince us we're lucky they did. Emm hello? That's how marketing ALWAYS look like. Bigger profit - better marketing. > How business works is that at the other end of the rope there are aware customers that oppose such ploys and make noise so others will not just walk into it. Nah, I can't agree with you. You see, when people whine about something and say that they won't buy it it actually help this business. How? Simple - people think that if so many people is against it then the thing is even more UNIQUE. This is a type of business Apple do. It's not about quality or something (we can discuss about it tho, but why) but it's about being unique. Having something, a lot people don't have. > not providing dedicated solar and lunar bundles, nor any way to earn icons and borders via missions I guess they didn't planned any big event to do that. Maybe because Christmas are close. Also there were always unique icons in bigger bundles with legendaries. > But we the customers equally do not owe them to go along with it That's true. We have a choice. If we want to pay for it then we will have a unique content that we like. Like... always. > buying (and paying!!) twice more then we should, if all we want is one skin variant and it's accessories. Well maybe it was not their smartest move (I think they could get more money with Solar and Lunar bundles) but maybe they treat both skins as something single? 2 versions of Leona, you can pick which day you want to be which. At least that's why I picked this bundle. I liked the idea about having both of them because they are so different and similar at the same time. And icond and border was just a bonus. I think icons and wards are the most useless content to buy because it change so often and it's not something "special" that makes game better.
Darwinion (EUW)
: The main problem in your story is that Yi isn't dealing 1000 _true_ damage during Alpha (just doesn't happen), I don't even know if it's possible reaching that number in a crit-build, but it would still be physical damage. Without looking at your game, I assume this means no one on your team built {{item:3033}} / {{item:3165}} , which is a rather obvious buy when facing Yi to negate his W and potential lifesteal, especially if the enemy also has a shield support. Also, taking all drakes and 2x Baron + all towers and inhibitors.. This right here is your secondary problem, and it's a common one in a hell of a lot of games. Many players seem (no pun intended) utterly clueless about champions in general, Yi is a **late**-game glass canon that can wreck most champions, especially if he isn't chain cc'ed to stop his dive on carries or his healing. Winning 2 lanes and the jungle, having the benefit of dragons should be enough to control the game to such a degree that you can breach their base in 1 or 2 lanes. Having just 1 Baron would allow you to build waves of buffed minions to take down Nexus towers, this sounds like another game where you wasted time afk farming jungle / chasing kills / taking the unnecessary tower(s) and inhibitor(s) allowing the enemy team to farm back your solid lead.
I didn't say it was one skill that did it. I looked at my death notes and he dealt me 2 things with true damage, once about 600, another about 400. And no, it was not ignite. > Winning 2 lanes and the jungle, having the benefit of dragons should be enough to control the game to such a degree that you can breach their base in 1 or 2 lanes. Having just 1 Baron would allow you to build waves of buffed minions to take down Nexus towers, this sounds like another game where you wasted time afk farming jungle / chasing kills / taking the unnecessary tower(s) and inhibitor(s) allowing the enemy team to farm back your solid lead. That's where you are wrong. Like you said we pushed mid and bot to inhibitors. Game stopped when we lost first teamfight under their nexus towers (with all that bonus items, gold and everything we had...). We were afraid to do it again because another lost tf and game could be ended. We pushed lanes since Yi couldn't be on all of them at the same time, again destroyed inhibitors, won few minor fights and climbed to nexus, on baron, again. We were not chasing anyone, we were going to kill mostly Lulu or Yi, since they were the biggest threat. Also they were always going in group. Yi woke up, we gave him ignite, I stunned him 3 times (yesss I counted) including ultimate and he had less than 1/2 hp but after second he was full again. He got Lulu's ult, shield and just crushed all of us. Everytime I died I was checking who dealt me most damage - Yi of course. Ba, he was focusing me in teamfights. ME. And Vayne was hitting him but with every Q all her effort was ruined. I remember times when I was a Taric and laughed when Yi was hitting me and couldn't kill me. That's why I was shocked when being Leona I was dying like a paper.
VortexV9 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=XaKFcPbJ,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-11-28T11:53:19.445+0000) > > I don&#x27;t think that it&#x27;s the &quot;elo&quot; matter... Our team wasn&#x27;t bad at all. Like I said - whole game was almost perfect. I played in high gold/plat seasons 2-5, I&#x27;m not a person who left Bronze few days ago. I can say if someone is decent or just lucky. > Yes, team was not perfect and gameplay could be a little smarter but I think that taking all dragons and barons is an achievment that should be felt somehow. And it didn&#x27;t help us at all. 30 minutes of fighting, pushing, winning teamfights did nothing. And this feeling is pretty sad. Even if you look at the graph in my last game you would see that we were winning practically all game, even at the end. I mean in general he is free win in low elo.. :) Not for your match
But how it's related to my post anyway?
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fdLiHP15,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-11-28T11:18:29.094+0000) > > well I&#x27;m sane and I did it. Because I like both skins... Don't twist the meaning of my post around. If you like both skins then there's nothing wrong with buying the mega bundle. I speak for those who want only one version with no interest in the other, yet are being pressured to pay almost twice the price of skin just to have a matching icon and border, since the rest of it's content is of no interest to us.
I'm just commenting what you wrote. I think everyone can have an opinion. And I see that under this topic people madly downvote everyone that have something else to say. Skins are a bonus. It always was. You can buy it or not. If Riot decided that you can get icon and border only in a pack then they have every right to do it. This is how marketing/busisness works. And it's like that in every game I play. There will be people who can spend money on it to enjoy the content and there will be people who think it's pointless and will play without it. If you are between - it's not Riot's problem. And before you start downvoting (nah, don't care really) and criticizing such pov then let me tell you - every game, while growing, will rise costs and change strategy to grow even more. We should be happy that this game is still free and any additional content don't help people to win matches.
VortexV9 (EUNE)
: Yi is free win champ in low elo... Riot must remove true dmg part of his E...
I don't think that it's the "elo" matter... Our team wasn't bad at all. Like I said - whole game was almost perfect. I played in high gold/plat seasons 2-5, I'm not a person who left Bronze few days ago. I can say if someone is decent or just lucky. Yes, team was not perfect and gameplay could be a little smarter but I think that taking all dragons and barons is an achievment that should be felt somehow. And it didn't help us at all. 30 minutes of fighting, pushing, winning teamfights did nothing. And this feeling is pretty sad. Even if you look at the graph in my last game you would see that we were winning practically all game, even at the end.
chεf (EUW)
: Believe or not, the game isn’t entirely decided on lane phase. Also there must have been some miscommunication as you have a leona and maoki, two of the best hard cc against yi. Maybe next time close out the game ASAP if all your lanes were winning and you took objectives faster. Maybe don’t take comet and double healand maybe exhaust instead bud :/
I know right? I know it's the best champ on Yi. And I know that it should be easy. But it wasn't. And I have no idea why. I'm not mad that we lost - it happens. I'm mad that we were winning practically WHOLE GAME and even Ahri having the most damage was no threat to us at all. With Vayne I could kill Ahri, Lulu, Jhin, Fiora very easly without any problem. And then came Master and just finished all of us. I was saving my ultimate on him. But it didn't help. I'm not a new player, I know what supports can and can't do. I'm aware that people need to focus the same person in late so it will be killed but after all these years I play I think that I never experienced such feeling - total, 100% helplessness while being 100% sure that everything goes as planned. I'm afraid that in next season I will have same situation and I will not be able to win it. I really don't know what I can do more to win games, since my score, my honors, comments from teammates and gameplay (until the end) is usually pretty positive on my side.
: Playing against yi is easy. You take an aggressive jungler, shut him down early, and end the game pre 30mins. If he gets to full build, you need somekind of a hard CC, and an execute ability that can't miss if timed well (right after his alpha strike) - think veig R or so. I don't remember losing to a yi in the past 4-5 months.
> Playing against yi is easy. Tell it to people who couldn't kill him in teamfight while being fed... > You take an aggressive jungler, shut him down early, and end the game pre 30mins. We had kha and he was pretty good. Ganked a lot, took all dragons, like I said. They were losing very hard almost 30 minutes. > If he gets to full build, you need somekind of a hard CC I think Leona and Vayne are pretty good CC team. And I was ulting and stunning him whenever I could. > I don't remember losing to a yi in the past 4-5 months. Yes, me too. I always took Taric or Leona and easy. That's why I'm shocked and frustrated because I feel like I couldn't do nothing else in this game..
Surma (EUNE)
: Who was that moron in Riot design team
Yeah xD It happens a lot that I'm adding a person who I want to report. Hahaha. Also I think there is a lot of things that can improve in the client.
: Not buying the scummy Eclipse Leo bundle
well I'm sane and I did it. Because I like both skins...
Rioter Comments
Avendr0s (EUW)
: A Letter To Riot
Yeah this is a nice read but I'm interested if anyone besides players who think the same will read it. I don't even want to think if any Riotter will read it because I don't believe they care anymore. :v
: quitting lol
I'm trying to quit lol, mostly because of the last reason you mentioned, but it's hard to find similar game... or anything multiplayer that is interesting. I tried Smite, Paladins, Overwatch, HOTS etc. Everything is either boring as hell or not in my style. LoL somehow fits in my tastes very well when it comes to graphics and gameplay. If there was a good alternative with a better communication with players then I'm sure people would leave LoL.
WhiteLiés (EUNE)
: exactly,i have friend that literally played so much to get honor 5,he got chat restricted and dropped to honor 1 lmao.
1? Not 0? I got 0... :/
WhiteLiés (EUNE)
: trust me i searched how to do it but couldnt find anything without downloading something to turn it off which i didnt want to,may i get banned for scripts or idk what xd
I'm just making it very, very small. On bigger screen it's so small that you can't see it at all while playing. It's better than muting people because when I want to ask something, like "can I take red" I can see the reply. :v
Cheini (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=uifN7jtJ,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-11-12T14:31:10.088+0000) > > what you say may be true if people no-lifes this game and play all the time. But for people like me - where I play rankeds few times per week it&#x27;s not so easy. I used to have a great scores in my games and very high mmr but in every promo I got down again and again because of trolls and inting people. SOme people joked that my account is cursed because EACH promo was the same (4v5 game, or game with a guy &quot;haha i will troll gl&quot;). I stayed in gold mostly and didn&#x27;t even had a will to try to go higher. Because maybe on 10 games I had 2 that were pretty normal and cool, no matter if I lost or won. > > So please, stop using the same argument that &quot;if you are good you will finally get your division&quot; because its BS. I played back in old times in teams in diamond, we won a pretty lot matches and my scores were great, but after they stopped to play, I had no premades, they changed the rules of the team plays (stupid flex...) then everything was ruined forever. redhead, i know i have been carried in my promo games, several times in fact :p &nbsp;+ afks on enemy team &nbsp;+.. even if you play several games per week, the rules stay the same: sometimes you will be carried, other times screwed and there is little you can do about it aside playing as well as you can.. so, i stand my case! we get trolls in quite a lot normal (non-promo that is) games... but, when they screw us hard (like in the last day of the season ie), we just notice it more.. and ofc flame :(
but I'm not talking about last day of season but all the time I play, which is about 7 years. I never played rankeds much because I don't have time for that. I play few games per week, lately less and less because I'm starting to be sick of this horrible community. And no, I'm not talking about flamers but the REAL toxic people - which is trolls and people like "oh you didn't do something I asked for? Ok, I will ruin this game for you" <- this type of people are the major of this game, at least what I experience.
: The thing riot wants is for no one to communicate what so ever or else it will be deemed as "toxic" or "negative"! Every year the increase the punished for people, yet never really address the matter what so ever. They only bring out excuses and never any real solutions. I'm never mad or toxic irl, but people who perilously waste my time in league get me mad.
true, also when we play on voice chats there are much worse words than on the chat. XD And no one cares about it, because it's emotions, it happens to everyone.
: Just give me a prema mute in chat then i can't flame can i? Solves the problem. But people always come with argument " they will find another way to destroy games" What other way is their other then trolling?
yeah I'm muting people if they flame me. And if their flame is just frustrated typing of people who wants to win then I'm not reporting. But when their flame begins a trolling game then I always report...
Cheini (EUNE)
: Oh guys won't you finally realize that if you play well enough to win a promo, the odds to be carried or screwed are equal.. And really, everyone has bad internet sometimes, or irl stuff - and again the odds for said player to by ally or enemy are equal - no matter if it is promo to dia or not! If you don't have stuff like ^, in fact you would win a bit more often right.. Ik it feels bad.. but if you don't try to play for what you like, you are basically wasting your time really.. And i completely refuse to believe you were banned just for telling another player he has net problems.. '-.- That aside, if you suspect something might go wrong, it is always best to try a custom game to make sure your ping & game settings are fine yet..
what you say may be true if people no-lifes this game and play all the time. But for people like me - where I play rankeds few times per week it's not so easy. I used to have a great scores in my games and very high mmr but in every promo I got down again and again because of trolls and inting people. SOme people joked that my account is cursed because EACH promo was the same (4v5 game, or game with a guy "haha i will troll gl"). I stayed in gold mostly and didn't even had a will to try to go higher. Because maybe on 10 games I had 2 that were pretty normal and cool, no matter if I lost or won. So please, stop using the same argument that "if you are good you will finally get your division" because its BS. I played back in old times in teams in diamond, we won a pretty lot matches and my scores were great, but after they stopped to play, I had no premades, they changed the rules of the team plays (stupid flex...) then everything was ruined forever.
: This is what happens when the company cares more about what you say in a "competitive game" then people who int and troll. But its been a long time coming, i have 2 other account if i so wished to carry on playing; but what's the point? To have the same fate as this one because of trolls and inters. Or for ever stick to normal game's and gain nothing.
You know what's the saddest part of this? I play this game like... 7 years? And I was always active on boards about people's behavior. I was checking how Riot is fixing issues with trolling people. It's been so many years and they still didn't change anything, all they did is punished people who are tilted by those trolls. Soon all that is left will be trolling, inting, not caring about score people.
Daishar (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RedHead Queen,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=uifN7jtJ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-12T13:32:02.420+0000) > > &quot;I feel sad that i wasted so much time in game that&#x27;s doesn&#x27;t care about player who want to try and climb and be the best they can, but care more about the world you say to other people. But who cares if the dude in your game ints or goes afk or makes you lose a game for free just because riot&#x27;s system won&#x27;t do anything about or even detect it. Who cares if you evenest the time to play the game just to lose because some else don&#x27;t care as much as you when it comes to trying. But no lest ban people for use of words.&quot; > > This... I was so scared I will be banned because I was adc and my support was afking for 4 minutes. He came back and started to take my farm and died. I was so mad because I really wanted to get gold this season. I told him to stop f*king around and start playing. He get mad and said I will be reported for verbal abuse. I muted him and did my job. Jungle was his premade and he started to comment my play and doing everything to get me mad (came on lane to steal my farm, took jungle monsters I tried to get). At the end I was adc with no kills, no farm and no support with bad score and everything. My team said that I will be reported and totally banned for it. I&#x27;m sure that support&#x27;s behavior was acceptable by Riot because he didn&#x27;t swear... This sucks. In Riot's eyes your support was right I guess. Thank god this season I got only 3 trolls and afkers while clmibing to gold. The thing is people like them won't get punished if they don't use chat. In Riot's book litterally one bad word will get you a perma ban but it's ok to ruin countless games. Trolling and sof inting andgriefing is acceptable.
This is the only game that acts like this. I never, EVER had a ban in any game and I'm a gamer for 10+ years. In LoL I had 3 - one permaban on acc on EUW (because they claimed I'm using 3rd programs which was not true but they refused to even check it once more), second and third on EUNE for verbal abuse - yeah I was flaming but never to someone who just had a bad day or bad game, ALWAYS to trolls, and very toxic people, few times because I protected my premade who was flamed for nothing wrong.
: But you shouldn't get banned for being toxic. i was more mad at them trolling my game, then saying shit about them. When game start to ban you for words used in a competitive game you already know it gone down the shit. What would you rather have a inter or a rager?
I can't agree that you shouldn't be banned for being toxic. BUT - I agree that being toxic can be understable and Riot should check whole situation not only chat logs. Like in law - you check if there is a reason to make a crime or not. If there is no reason to kill someone then the punishment is much worse than when you had a reason (like self-defence). We are all just people. And every one of us sometimes have enough and write what lays on his heart. In real life I'm a very calm person and I don't argue with anyone, I'm not friends with any toxic people. In games like LoL my worse side is shown because people here make me like this. I never flame without a reason. I don't flame people who was 0/4 at the beginning. I don't flame because someone made a mistake. I flame ONLY when someone acts like a total troll and do everything to lose. My flames are never without a reason and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same! For me toxic behavior starts when you are mean to your team. When you don't to what's your role suppose to do. When you ignore your team and refuse to cooperate. This is the worst toxic behavior in this game. And its TOTALLY IGNORED by Riot!
: Perma ban
"I feel sad that i wasted so much time in game that's doesn't care about player who want to try and climb and be the best they can, but care more about the world you say to other people. But who cares if the dude in your game ints or goes afk or makes you lose a game for free just because riot's system won't do anything about or even detect it. Who cares if you evenest the time to play the game just to lose because some else don't care as much as you when it comes to trying. But no lest ban people for use of words." This... I was so scared I will be banned because I was adc and my support was afking for 4 minutes. He came back and started to take my farm and died. I was so mad because I really wanted to get gold this season. I told him to stop f*king around and start playing. He get mad and said I will be reported for verbal abuse. I muted him and did my job. Jungle was his premade and he started to comment my play and doing everything to get me mad (came on lane to steal my farm, took jungle monsters I tried to get). At the end I was adc with no kills, no farm and no support with bad score and everything. My team said that I will be reported and totally banned for it. I'm sure that support's behavior was acceptable by Riot because he didn't swear... This sucks.
Saibbo (EUW)
: The moment my support stays under the tower and leaves me 2vs1 and flames.
IXIRoman (EUW)
: try to make player support or rioters understand that
yeah well... they are professionalists so they probably know better *heh*
Serage (EUW)
: There was a 1/7 darius that just killed the whole team... Well its Darius, thats because he is banned all the time :D
yeah, he practically carried enemy after that 2 situations. :(
TTekkers (EUW)
: I'm a Cait main, and ex-Braum main. I like your role progression. If you want a cheap bullshit easy kill, take a late-game Caitlyn and put a trap under a Zhonya's or GA enemy. When they come out of it you get a free headshot, which is 15% true damage from IE and the damage on headshots got buffed recently. I did a 1300 crit on a Jhin coming out of GA yesterday. One thing I will say, is that sometimes as an ADC, your best contribution to the fight can be to stay way back behind the back line and wait until you can safely move in before doing ANYTHING in a fight. I don't have time to dive into full detail, but it's basically about combining your permanently high damage threat and your needing to stay safe through being super vulnerable.
thanks :) I will try her! Thank you for advices.
: Another Gamebreaking AFK Bug
This is fking bullshit, this game. You have problem with being afk while you are not afk, and we have games with people afking on both sides, can't remake and my friend can't log in into game when internet is perfectly fine (and never before had problem with it). WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS GAME? Is it crashing or what? Should we just start looking for alternative?
Rioter Comments
JustClone (EUNE)
: This is good, but it will require another map :)
yeah it will. But 4v4 deserve to have their own game! Look - you can play 1 in solo, flex, u can play 2 in solo flex, you can play 3 in 3v3 and flex, you can play 5 in flex but there is no place for 4 team. :<
: I want dominion!
And I want 4v4 ranked. v.v I have enough of having to play normals with friends because we always miss 1 person.
IXIRoman (EUW)
: if a rioter see they he will say : "Chat is something which the team needs . we can't do that or u will lose every game" and believe me i tried that and they say that xd
but what exactly people write on the chat that is useful on the game? - you can ping when you'll gank - you can ping when it's ss - you can ping when you want to take objective - you can warn teammate of upcoming danger This is all we need to know to play the game. People use the chat to write "gj", "wp" which is nice but emoticons can do it too. Other than that all we see is "report XYZ", "ff15", "omg noob" etc. Which is not useful at all. So, I'd really like to know what Riot think about it and seriously why they think that chat is a good idea for people.
: Disable Chat
I'm writing "muted" on the chat sometimes even if I'm not muting, just so people will stop flaming me or just be annoying. :P The chat is useful but I'd change it for more precised pings, like in Smite.
TTekkers (EUW)
: Keep playing, and keep on learning. As an ADC without a dash, there's not much you can do if a Darius flashes on you, however you should also not be in a situation where he can just freely flash on you without your teammates either being able to kill him in reply or save you and kill him. Also, as MF you have 2 of the best skills in the game for creating a move speed difference, so in the slim chance he whiffs part of his combo (you have to braindead to miss part of Darius' combo though) you can E + W and run away from his melee range. And since you know he now has his cooldowns up (no hook) and no flash you can use your insane MF movespeed to chase him down and maintain that gap while shooting him down, and even if your build sucks against beefy guys, you can still kite him out quite well.
Yup it was my bad that I didn't try to escape quicky. I just didn't think that he will kill me that easly. I play this game for a long time and it was a really rare moment when I realised how little my score matter in the game... People always say "uh oh adc is so fed he will kill us all" but the truth is... That we still can die in seconds, before we deal any damage at all. Lately I'm finding myself in that situations a lot - I'm being hunted, focused and either too afraid to go and hit enemy or too confident and dying in a blink. I used to play support, I'm glad I changed my role to adc because now I understand a lot - why my adc was so mad when he died or why sometimes we were losing our lane. I wouldn't go back to playing support but that knowledge is helping me to judge if my support will help me or he is new to this role. I really enjoy being adc, because he is quick and can push and also defend himself in 1v1 but I still know that I miss something. I'm usually not feeding but I want to deal more damage in game and it's hard with all that assasins around me. Do you have any advice to this? If anything what I wrote make sense?
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