: When will this annoying damage support meta end?
When it will end? When we all stop doing massive dmg at lvl1 ;) I mean what did you expect from game that focused on bursting your oponnent? Why pick Sona to heal, if I cant out heal one shot? Why not also pick mage and atleast kill their botlane before they pick my ADC and tear him apart? Atleast, my ADC will flame me for 'taking kills' and not 'you are not healing me' XD
DasIstNyul (EUNE)
: This is still looking like Riot endorses this behavior. And actually I agree with you, since no counter-measures taken against this behavior. Reports mean nothing, no one is taken seriously.
DasIstNyul (EUNE)
: You suggest Riot endorses this behaviour
No! This is what this game evolved! Beside getting the best KDA there is b playing braind dead latest of the mill buffed champs there is nothing for every other role! Meaning, tanks waiting for last hits, or staying behind their teammates and not engaging! Or even better, supports champs being picked just bcs they can last hit everything int heir sights ( pyke!)! Atleast in Heroes of the Storm, you can become the best in the game, if you achieve milestones ( healing, dmg migitating etc etc and not just dmg)! -.- I just said, this kind of biheviour is completely normal!!!
DasIstNyul (EUNE)
: Team ruiners
Its more like this: 'I am better in this game then others so I will take all kills! After all I am pro!' Then, the moment he gets 2 kills and you die bcs he waited, then youa re inting, trolling and whatnot XD Completely normal in this game!
: I really dont see where problem is! I mean, wait for 6 months and Aatrox will probably: 1) Get new updates on his abilities 2) Get new lore which will again call for new update on his abilities 3) Get reworked! Bcs reasons ("balance") We really should know what to expect from Riot by now! Just chill and wait! :)
And my comment is getting downvoted? XD Why? Did I say something false? Are you telling me this is not going to happen? Not just in this case regarding Aatrox but every other champion?
True Sight (EUNE)
: Aatrox without a revive isn't Aatrox
I really dont see where problem is! I mean, wait for 6 months and Aatrox will probably: 1) Get new updates on his abilities 2) Get new lore which will again call for new update on his abilities 3) Get reworked! Bcs reasons ("balance") We really should know what to expect from Riot by now! Just chill and wait! :)
: i like the fact that we can claim icons from TFT without playing it.
: This is probably his 10th account. Cockroaches are hard to kill. I mean I reported him too, but... yeah. Cockroaches.
Well, its not like I have anything smarter to do atm XD So reporting them constantly and getting their accounts deleted is far more enjoyable than its going to be for him to create new accounts :D
: > [{quoted}](name=rHarvey,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=JxQ8Vl8q,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-07-11T08:20:56.863+0000) > > Have you tried not being %%%got? You tried and failed at it lol.
I dont know about boards but since you can get banned for homophobic slurs in game I reported him and made ticket so I hope to get his account banned by evening :D
: I know this isn’t the right place to put it but I need advice
You have to accept his decision and slowly move on with your life! This is not the end! It hurts, totally, but with time, it will go away! Who knows, maybe you will, with time, find someone else who will appreciate your feelings! Also, I think now is time for you to find yourself! Try doing project. Learn something new! Try some sports! Watch your favourite shows! Something to occupy yourself with! Its easier to overcome something when you are occupied by new hobby! Just dont play LoL and try to busy yourself with that XD
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: yes you roll the dice and it either lands on that 12.5% and you win or it doesn't and you lose or you can actually be a cognitive player and play around the RNG and increase your odds of winning just like in League your statistical chances of winning a game is 50% and depending on your performance in the game it can go up or down
> or you can actually be a cognitive player and play around the RNG and increase your odds of winning I have feeling that it was aimed at me personally XD Nvm, true, you can bypass odds and rolls! But it still gives A CHANCE! It is still RANDOM! When you start ranked 5vs5, we all have same chances at winning or losing! But what changes those odds? Matter of our skill and matter of our skill( although I would say being "lucky" after evading skillshot is not luck put skill pertaining learning biheviour patterns )! Starting the TfT, you have same chances of winning! You still can outplay and outsmart enemies! True! BUT, you heavily rely on luck(item drops are not the same, the GAME [not using other sources like google] has no list of item fusions so you rely on luck on those items you need and memory, you cant sell or change those items so its again luck, buffs are not consistent since they rely on champion shards, bugs, elementalist buff spawns at random [unless you specifically occupy every slot for it to appear at exact place you want it, and yet you might even displace that way your team composition for countering enemy]...)! And all that plays in your RNG, meaning those chances are HEAVILY influenced! It might seem like ranked 5vs5 is also RNG, but its not! Its just %%%%%%s, bad evaluation system, and system geared to low skill people! Its not system geared to rely on luck!
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: still 12.5% because you are playing against 7 other people that are subjected to the same variable
I have 12.5% at the start of the game! But that percentage, later in game, depends on the RNG!
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: and your statistical chance of placing 1st regardless of how rng is made is 12.5%
You mean, my statistical chance is 12.5% without RNG! But with number of items RANDOMLY GIVEN, CHAMPION SHARDS RANDOMLY GIVEN! Can you calculate it then? R N G = Randomly Generated Numbers Meaning, if you count my chances of winning you have to count those RNG in it! Especially since game is PURE RNG!
: True but i would still prefer to play TFT :D
And that is your opinion! But saying you never lost game to RNG especially since that gamemode is based on RNG is silly XD
: "You do understand that you cant play TFT without LoL" One of the only bad things about TFT TFT has had more viewers than League every single day since launch
Firstly, are you sure about that statement about viewers and please do give me evidence ;) Secondly, having more views doesnt mean that is popular........ Diablo Immortal has pretty nice amount of views and yet is disliked to oblivion....
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: winning in TFT is placing from 1st to 4th place
I know, doesnt make it better!
: Don't play it if you don't like it. I love it. It's so fun and has less rng then my solo queue teammates.
I understand that! But RNG cant be on solo q teammates! Thats not correct analogy! It would be something like this: Playing SoloQ only to get enemy laner with RANDOMLY GIVEN ITEM! Random Number Generator === RNG! It cant be used on stupidity of your teammates! :D
: If TFT is going to be deleted in 4 weeks then in how many will League be deleted in since it's way less popular than TFT? yay League is deleted in like 2 weeks finally!
You do understand that you cant play TFT without LoL? Right? So if TFT is popular then LoL is popular since its made from LoL and is played from client made for LoL! And.... where did you get that TFT is more popular than LoL? :D
: Ranked solo VS TFT
1) Ranked Pros: It wont be deleted and forgotten after 4 weeks! Cons: You play game that you mostly created by writting shiit in surveys, on boards, and defending every bad thing Rito did! 2) TFT Pros: It WILL be deleted after 4 weeks ( I hope)! Cons: RNG! EA already has problems with their "suprise mechanics" a.k.a. lootboxes! If Rito does continue with this gamemode I would really love how they would explain RNG on court!
: Never lost a Tft game to rng. I've lost games because i made the wrong choices. I would rather play TFT because kai'sa doesn't exist in TFT. Kai'sa is a disgusting overloaded champion that shouldn't of made it to live servers. But she avoids nerfs due to being a adc who makes the company tons of money with her high playrate.
You never lost a game? So you were always first? So you never lost a game where other player had 4 items after first three rounds and you had one? How about when you barely got 4 level 2 stars and got matched by a noble team with vayne and garen lvl3? Apparently that same dude that had 4 items managed to get two level 3 stars Garen and Vayne? And you never lost? How about game glitching so your Warwick decided to spent whole game sitting and wathicng enemy team butchering his allies? XD Ohh I am sorry! Those were matches I did lose! And cause wasnt RNG but my bad choices :D
: >your username is associated with your name, so posting it without the persons agreement is invasion of privacy This is completely false. Your summoner name is public information and it is not associated with your real name by default. It would be an invasion of privacy to tell the public the real name of the account holder, but it is not an invasion of privacy to refer the summoner name, nor is it an invasion of privacy to take a picture of the summoner name. If it was an invasion of privacy, Riot Games would not be allowed to show any summoner names to other players. It's public information. It's personal, but not private. The only reason posting the summoner names on these boards is forbidden is because Riot wants to prevent "witch hunting" from taking place. It has nothing to do with privacy.
I thought also that screenshot is not breaking any law! Thats why I thought that maybe Riot has some policy regarding that! Thanks on explanation!
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >According to the European Commission, "personal data is any information relating to an individual, whether it relates to his or her private, professional or public life. It can be anything from a name, a home address, a photo, an email address, bank details, posts on social networking websites, medical information, or a computer's IP address."[3] The precise definitions of terms such as "personal data", "processing", "data subject", "controller" and "processor", are stated in Article 4 of the Regulation.[4] your username is associated with your name, so posting it without the persons agreement is invasion of privacy it is taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Scope
You probably have more experience with this so could you just clarify this to me: > To be able to demonstrate compliance with the GDPR, the data controller must implement measures which meet the principles of data protection by design and by default. Data protection by design and by default (Article 25) require data protection measures to be designed into the development of business processes for products and services. Such measures include pseudonymising personal data, by the controller, as soon as possible (Recital 78). It is the responsibility and the liability of the data controller to implement effective measures and be able to demonstrate the compliance of processing activities even if the processing is carried out by a data processor on behalf of the controller (Recital 74). > When data is collected, data subjects must be clearly informed about the extent of data collection, the legal basis for processing of personal data, how long data is retained, if data is being transferred to a third-party and/or outside the EU, and any automated decision-making that is made on a solely algorithmic basis. Data subjects must be informed of their privacy rights under the GDPR, including their right to revoke consent to data processing at any time, their right to view their personal data and access an overview of how it is being processed, their right to obtain a portable copy of the stored data, the right to erasure of data under certain circumstances, the right to contest any automated decision-making that was made on a solely algorithmic basis, and the right to file complaints with a Data Protection Authority. As such, the data subject must also be provided with contact details for the data controller and their designated data protection officer, where applicable.[12][13] One responsible for data is data controller to which we as data subjects give our consent to! But there is nothing that is regarding solely on character names and personalization of characters and taking pictures of them! As it stands ( I have yet to read full Law and understand it) there is nothing that breaking the law if you post picture of character! Since data controller allowed us to see it (ingame) and data subject gave his consent for it! Is there possible anything that Riot put in EULA maybe? Also what is then problem with Live streams are they also breaking above said law? https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32016R0679 Found Law! Again thank you for help!
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >According to the European Commission, "personal data is any information relating to an individual, whether it relates to his or her private, professional or public life. It can be anything from a name, a home address, a photo, an email address, bank details, posts on social networking websites, medical information, or a computer's IP address."[3] The precise definitions of terms such as "personal data", "processing", "data subject", "controller" and "processor", are stated in Article 4 of the Regulation.[4] your username is associated with your name, so posting it without the persons agreement is invasion of privacy it is taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Scope
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >And there's no way to report the idiots as riot don't think intent to ruin a game is punishable without the game actually taking place. because there is no crime you dont commit... since you can play any champ in any role with any summoner spell there isnt anything wrong with going doublesupport with cleanse and ghost >Again, there needs to be someone who cares about players who is working on a way to mitigate the troll exploits available to people who don't give a damn about climbing. so your idea is that you should get a free dodge and punish them when they did nothing wrong? and that would magically cure the toxicity? why dont you just play the game (since you lose lp anyway) and report them after the game when you have evidence against them? >I have a photo of the duo but I won't post it because apparently that makes me the bad guy. nope you are not a bad guy for posting a photo, you are just invading their privacy, which is protected by law >Imagine living in a world where there was no punishment for attempted murder because the crime didn't actually take place, due to the victim Running away. And any witness who reports it gets shunned by the community for shaming the would be killer. there is a huge difference here that you missed by a mile, in your example you talk about murdering someone, which is always illegal no matter the situation, so even talking about doing it is illegal and punishable, but ingame its different, there is nothing against going disco nunu if you want to win with it, because you can play anything anywhere, its only against the rules if you are deliberately trying to lose the game for your team, and thats the difference, thats why there is no punishment for talking about going disco nunu, because thats NOT against the rule
Hmmm... I am not trying to attack you or deffend his arguments but I did find something that bugs me about this statement.... > nope you are not a bad guy for posting a photo, you are just invading their privacy, which is protected by law I understand that law protects you in case of someone taking pictures without your approval! As I know, this law only implies on Real Life! I never knew this law applies on characters in games! Can you post me article about implementation of this law on gaming? In this case, posting picture with a name of the character without approval of person whose that character is. I just didnt hear any law about that being passed in EU so please link article! I would love to learn more about it! Thank you!
: Can we choose level borders ?
Is it possible to not have any type of border? I dislike both ranked and level borders!
: Because I love making myself suffer. I put my flash on D for the same reason.
: Yeah bro, I mean, I hate cauliflower, and I hate soup, yet I eat cauliflower soup 3x a day. Bizarre. Would much rather be eating a nice steak and fries. But here I am with my cauliflower soup.
I honour your bravery! Btw why do you eat it? (This is not for argumentation just pure curiosity! )
: It is mind blowing - it's one of those posts that must surely be a shitpost, yet one is cynical enough to know that these people do actually exist. Do any of League's 100 Million players enjoy the game? Doubtful... {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
For example, I dont :D I have been playing it for 9 years, last 3 years I dont enjoy it at all! But I am still here! Still playing :D
: Its not like game gets better at higher levels! Game is just not geared towards new players! Why shouldnt he whine about toxicity in game if he plays ranked at lvl 30! It is content that is unlocked at lvl 30! It is what this game is all about! Example: I play Tera Online!! Lvl cap is lvl 65, and I managed in one day to get to the lvl 30 just by farming vegetables around Crescentia ( just beginner town )! You can get to the level cap relatively fast!!! Does that mean I know most of my abilities on Berserk? Nope! But I do know how to farm vegetables!! I will get to play "ENDGAME" content and I will not know anything regarding the game mechanics at all!!!! I did see a lot of yt's videos and most focus a lot of on endgame content! Like comments below them! Its even put in focus in the official website! New endgame content!!! Now! What do you get to do in LoL? You can buy champions by leveling! You can level in normal games and in ranked games :D Ranked restriction is lvl 30! In ranked you achieve progress! Thats it! There is no subcontent! Even better, what is first thing you hear about LoL? LCS? MSI? World Championships? He is new player! And there is nowhere that states that he should train more before ranked! NOWHERE! He is allowed to play ranked! He is allowed to fail! And he is allowed to express his experience of this game!
But ofc I agree with you! He SHOULD NOT play ranked! He needs more experience to play it! But also, the more he plays, the more he will be put in his deserved dvision in ranked! So yeah, there is that :D
: Nothing wrong. But if you DO start playing ranked at 30, you shouldn't whine on the boards about it being toxic. It's literally blowing my mind. He's playing at the bottom of the ladder, and he's surprised that players are bad, that they are feeding and inting. WELL DUUUH. It's bronze, what does he expect ? Asking if we enjoy the game....lol
Its not like game gets better at higher levels! Game is just not geared towards new players! Why shouldnt he whine about toxicity in game if he plays ranked at lvl 30! It is content that is unlocked at lvl 30! It is what this game is all about! Example: I play Tera Online!! Lvl cap is lvl 65, and I managed in one day to get to the lvl 30 just by farming vegetables around Crescentia ( just beginner town )! You can get to the level cap relatively fast!!! Does that mean I know most of my abilities on Berserk? Nope! But I do know how to farm vegetables!! I will get to play "ENDGAME" content and I will not know anything regarding the game mechanics at all!!!! I did see a lot of yt's videos and most focus a lot of on endgame content! Like comments below them! Its even put in focus in the official website! New endgame content!!! Now! What do you get to do in LoL? You can buy champions by leveling! You can level in normal games and in ranked games :D Ranked restriction is lvl 30! In ranked you achieve progress! Thats it! There is no subcontent! Even better, what is first thing you hear about LoL? LCS? MSI? World Championships? He is new player! And there is nowhere that states that he should train more before ranked! NOWHERE! He is allowed to play ranked! He is allowed to fail! And he is allowed to express his experience of this game!
: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264509145766428673/596621112968740865/Screenshot_2019-07-05_at_11.39.03.png You're single handedly ruining other players' RANKED matches, while being a new player, having no idea what to do. Are you surprised that the morale of the team you're in is always low ? I suggest you play botgames/normals/ARAMs, for at least a year, before getting into ranked. Cuz what you're doing now, is not ok. And yes, me and the other couple of millions of daily players still enjoy LOL.
But this is it! Game allowed him to play ranked at lvl 30! So what is wrong with him playing (and ruining ranked) for others? There is no restrictions, no guide, no missions, no warning for new accounts for rankeds! Its hit and run! Why are we blaming him and not system? Btw I do advocate for lvl 100 restriction ( or even higher level ) for ranked!
Joetri10 (EUW)
: TFT is NOT RNG based, it's actually worse, and i'll tell you why.
I tried to test that theory! So I had game where everyone bought pyke! And after 4 players that had atleast one lvl 2 pyke, lost game, I didnt get pyke untill I won the game! By that Logic, those 4 lvl 2 pykes ( thats like 12 pykes ) should be returned to poll! Other three remaining players, including me, noone had lvl 3 pyke, just two of us had lvl 2 pykes! Meaning I didnt receive 12 pykes in my reroll poll! Now, lets not be hasty! I was 100 score player, I was on winning streak, and I only rerolled, after those 4 players with 4 pyke level 2 were defeated. At that time, I had almost 4 level 3 champs, everything else lvl 2 (including my one lvl 2 pyke)! I rerolled minimum 4 times per win! And I repeat, only once did I get pyke to buy ( level 1 )! Thats just my experience, but if it was, as everyone saying, those pykes returning to the poll, I would have alread had lvl 3 pyke at the second turn! But I didnt! What I did notice is, that I managed to get lvl 2 rarity 4 champion before getting pyke level 1!!!! At best, we dont have any indication what exactly influences our poll size! It would be good if someone with math skills could calculate poll size, and poll size and chances of getting a champion ater being returned to the poll when the player loses or sell it! At best, poll is just changed! Those who were most bought out by everyone are replaced by higher rarity champions! But that is also an RNG! You really cant disguise this gamemode as tactic when it relies on luck 90% of your game time! It would have been better, if I could buy every champion at the start, and price of one level champion being increased the more I bought him! That would have been tactic! Whether to spend money to have 1 lvl 3 champion or 3 level 2 champions! Not reroll and pray for someone else not buying it!
BlackXIV (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=SaiyanDarius,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=REhkWyoP,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-29T19:48:16.503+0000) > > If I go and play TFT, do I know size of the Champion Poll? Nope! Do I know percentage at which I can get some champion? Nope! Do I have a dice to roll that I could count on? Nope! You actually do if you google them
I can also find list of the item combinations on the google! But, nice example is this, you dont see me using calculator at the Poker table do you? Or even better, mobile phone to take picture of cards I got and calculate it! It was supposed to be implemented in the game! This way, I am not playing a game, but using google -.-
MadBaron (EUW)
: Why so many people flaming about RNG in Teamfight Tactics?
But If I go and play YuGiOh Duel Links I am betting my arse on my 40 cards deck that I compiled while thinking about every other possible outcome of the first hand draw, second draw etc etc. If I go play Chess, I am thinking about countless strategies that I could open my game, build my game about, focus on enemy strategy, counter him etc etc If I go play Poker, I know the amount of cards there is in deck! I know the cards I got, and I can build it around percentage and luck! If I go play BlackJack, I rely on math, knowledge of percentages and deck size! If I go and play TFT, do I know size of the Champion Poll? Nope! Do I know percentage at which I can get some champion? Nope! Do I have a dice to roll that I could count on? Nope! Can I compile my champion poll? Yes, from RANDOM PICKS! Can I go and remove items from champions without selling them? Nope! Do I know drop chances of items from monsters? Nope! Do I have table of item combinations listed in-game? Nope! Do I know how many players are there? Yep! Can I count on program and algorithm to pair me with similar score player? Nope! Basically, russian roulet! If you reroll and you dont get what you need to upgrade, and battle comes and enemy team has 3 stars, you lose! If you dont get what you need for your set buff effect (elementalist for example) and you already lost three games in a row, and you decide to sell them, just to get whay tou need on next reroll, well its not strategy that failed, its your luck! Now, over count of these days, a lot of player probably gave up, meaning now you will not be able to strategize, be tactical, because player that comes play TFT will be prepared, will know what to do, and only thing you do really is on RNG! Btw, name of the gamemode has "TACTIC" in its name!
Yraco (EUW)
: You do still get to control a lot of things in TFT. Sometimes you won't get first because of RNG but the gamemode doesn't need you to come first like regular League. You can usually get a decent place just on making the right decisions on when/what to pick, when to save for some interest, when to level, which items/champions you want from the carousel (if you are losing to RNG you get the first pick), where to use the items you do get and how you want to position.
Yeah..... No! Lets do this part by part, yeah? > You do still get to control a lot of things in TFT. Sometimes you won't get first because of RNG but the gamemode doesn't need you to come first like regular League. You can usually get a decent place just on making the right decisions on when/what to pick, when to save for some interest, when to level, which items/champions you want from the carousel (if you are losing to RNG you get the first pick), where to use the items you do get and how you want to position. Its not problem of getting first! That is not RNG! You can use tactics at most cases by calculating whether you will win against someone or not based on their score! Problem is, that RNG is present here! I, with score of 45, get player with 100 score, three times in a row! I am %%%%edd beyond recognition! -.- Why did I not get combined to fight against someone closer to my lvl? Sometimes, I do get to the score of 100, and I am pretty ashamed that I spent minimum of 10 games getting lowest score players atleast 10 times in a row!!!!!! I won the game with full team of 3 stars bcs I had coins to REROLL -.- Its not even luck, this is just RNG! When and what to pick is RNG! I dont have a list to choose freely, I pick from RANDOM LOTTERY and then either celebrate or cry if next 5 times I get nothing to combine with! Its not tactics if you are forced to roll and reroll for you to use tactics -.- Third, saving for interest... Simple math, not exactly tactics! But true! Again, save for what? For ROLL and REROLL for having a CHANCE of getting what you need! Item drops are pretty RNG! If you get three items after 2 camps at the start of the game and you have three champs and you already have one item at the champ you picked at the start of the game its not high tactic on who to spend those items... Even if you mess it up, you dont have a option to remove items!!!! Meaning I AM GAMBLING WHETHER TO GIVE AND COMBINE ITEMS OR NOT! Only thing you do have control over is positioning! Thats it! You spent 90% of game on RNG, and 10% on positioning! This is not a "tactical" gamemode! Its gambling! For example, do you play LoL? Ofc you do :D Imagine if you started the game with a chance of you or other enemy adc getting bf sword at the start. Or game where you went to farm jungle and suddenly enemy jungle comes at lvl 6 with three items? Or even better, if you couldnt get level cause you didnt spent enough coins on those REROLLS, meaning you are at min 35 with lvl 4 -.- This gamemode is called "Team Fight TACTICS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: It's like no one has ever played poker, or something like "Space Tyrant", thats a good one. It's a game of luck whats wrong with that, at least like in poker you get to decide on a few things which are made available to you, unlike games like Bingo. If it's not your thing then so be it but there's no need to be horrible about it. I got my best place so far today....3rd. I'm just enjoying working it out. It's good fun and stress relieving after too many battles on the rift. It is only in Beta I think so there may be some changes yet AND most of all it's freeeeeeeee \(**)/ yeah XD
Name of the gamemode is not " RNG !!! ", hell I think the best name would be "Try Your Luck!"! But the name is "TeamFightTactics"!!! That TACTICS in the name is glaring problem! I bet players wouldnt be soo hard on this gamemode was called differently! I, atleast, speak from experience, and I also gave up on gamemode because its not tactics but RNG -.- And I despise gambling XD
SaKRaaN (EUNE)
: More luck and grind systems ?
Its Riot! I am sad that even I expected something better this time XD
: Please remove the RNG in TFT from camp item drops
Its not just item drops, champion picks also! If this is "tactic" then only luck I want to rely on, is for my oponnent to %%%%k his team composition building XD
: You write this big rant about how much Riot suck as a competent company, but I bet you still play League for hours a day, every day. Some people love to piss and moan that the game isn't up to their standards in this way and that way, yet they still spend a huge portion of their free time playing it haha. Don't like the expensive skins? Don't buy them! Don't like the quality of some skins? Don't buy them! TFT not playable soon enough? Tough shit, you're gonna have to wait longer - they aren't rushing it to please impatient little brats who think the world revolves around them. Or here is another idea - if you're such a visionary, why don't you make your own billion dollar game ;) Before you say I am 'blind cattle' btw, this is my opinion, and I don't give 2 shits whether people agree or not.
> Or here is another idea - if you're such a visionary, why don't you make your own billion dollar game ;) Wut?
: and it doesn't give rewards unless quests are up not really worth the time
I think they said quests and rewards will come later, also I think Qiyana will also come later.
Enchant5 (EUW)
: The TFT Experience
It was really fun game! For first five games! After that, I realized I would have more luck in Casino -.- This game is not tactic, its pure RNG! Team Fight RollTheDice gamemode -.-
: firstly who cares about flame, if they are flaming you just mute them so long as you ain’t trolling you won’t get any kind of punishment... just play the game. And you where getting flamed either way, so why bother trying to do stufff to get less flame. Plus deaths aren’t that big of a deal in these situations, supports occasionally need to kill themselves to save an ally if they flame at you for that it’s you that will climb not them > At best, we all die, I have less kills then deaths and my teammates ( premades ) have a valid reason for report!!! No they don’t... you can’t be reported for a negative kda nor dying,.. if you could be punished for that then there’d be no one left playing this game. Unless you are legitimately running it down (as in spawning then going under tower to die and constantly doing that) you won’t be punished for it
I care about flame, bcs if they are flamming me and saying I am inting, I can easily avoid that by have better score! And since I play flex ranked solo, imagine getting 3 report for one game while having score of 1 4 -.- I doubt system would go " Oh, he is support! Disregard reports on him!" And I already got 14 days chat restriction for calling one player a "%%%%inng snowflake" -.- Again, I didnt mean I didint help them do baron, I tried to bait enemy team and still heal them ( Sona ) and ofc spam pings! I didnt die cause we were like at min 20, jungler barely had his jungle item and boots, top fed with score 0 4, and mid roamed having score like 1 3 with cs of 47! Only lane that was any good was botlane bcs we managed to push it and had score like 4 1! And they started baron, while he was warded by enemy, while enemy took down my 2 red wards, and while we did only 50 percent of Baron in 2 mins -.- It was doomed! It was bad call! I tried to ping them, I tried to use chat! Nope! They died to only enemy jungler and top laner, while I stunned other three! Those two got 4 kills -.- And I was flamed, since that was what they were doing already -.- Good thing, is they had no valid ground for their reports :D
: True but remember what use where you from surviving... your the support Sona, you aren’t gonna wave clear, you ain’t gonna pick anyone off, you prob don’t have a shut down... you living or not in that situation won’t make a difference. So even with a terrible call it was prob better for you to stay, worst case scenario everyone dies and the same thing happens as before, best case you could peel well enough to get some of your team out. It’s one of those weird parts of league, but 5 people doing a bad play has a higher chance of working out than 4 people doing it... even if you know it will loose you the game you’ve prob lost either way you might as well try and make it work
> True but remember what use where you from surviving... your the support Sona, you aren’t gonna wave clear, you ain’t gonna pick anyone off, you prob don’t have a shut down... you living or not in that situation won’t make a difference. Maybe not to add to my count of deaths? Remember this is silver but even dyine once would flag me as feeder and inter and would get my arse flame whole game! > It’s one of those weird parts of league, but 5 people doing a bad play has a higher chance of working out than 4 people doing it... even if you know it will loose you the game you’ve prob lost either way you might as well try and make it work Maybe this comes from different experiences. My experience of playing last 4 seasons in silver are: less deaths less reasons for flame. Even if I did stay I would get flamed! I got flamed from start, bcs they had premades and I got one kill from one of the premades ( got passive on sona while spamming heal and got kill, I apologized but dude was just tilted by that one kill -.- )! I think it was my bad for not describing situation more: Its not like I wasnt near them and doing baron, I just didnt attack it. I went from my team healing them, to bush across baron that I warded where enemy team was and where I spammed q, when I realized that they went for a kill on us I ultied 3 of them, while their jungler used flower to jump and get triple on my teamates... Enemy team had great advantage over us, so doing baron while they were alive, while they were waiting for us was very bad and dumb decision ofc. But I played with teammates who were premade ( I wasnt premade with them) and they flamed me basically from the start XD So I lost that game, yep! But no amount of helping them at baron would help us! At best, we all die, I have less kills then deaths and my teammates ( premades ) have a valid reason for report!!!
m0rfis (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SaiyanDarius,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=v6LeE5E1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-24T10:22:18.660+0000) > > I had a game as support where I had warded baron, saw enemy support ward baron, my team started baron although I typed that baron was warded, even in caps lock! > What is worse is that I even had warded bush in which they ( all five of them ) were hiding when my team just started baron XD > Since I didnt want to help bcs it was obvious that we would all die :D I was the one who got flamed! :D > Not the team that started baron while enemy team was alive, while enemy team was in bush waiting for us to lower HP on Baron.... XD Nope, they flamed me XD I even used red ward to show them that it was warded but you cant do a shiit in silver game :D I LITTERALLY got out of silver 4 times this season only and I tell you in silver you dont need to farm or play smart just keep killing the enemies the amount of iq that exists in there is crazy
Exactly!!! :D Its like every game is fight to show just which team has lower IQ XD
: Man it sounds like you play just as school finishes. Got to remember school timings thats when the tough guys turn up. Also at this time of year the kids doing exams have pretty much finished them now and are now enjoying a long summer holiday, so their off all day! You got to take in all these factors. Use the mute button - believe me I know you want to beat their brains in but you can't reach them "&" don't they just know it? No wonder the youth are in to knife crime thanks to them freely expressing themselves online the way they do. Things wasn't as bad that in the 80's with our ZX Spectrums hahaha
My tactic also :D Wait for school year to start to get back to LoL XD I thought I was only one who noticed increased toxicity just around the time school ended XD
: > Since I didnt want to help bcs it was obvious that we would all die :D I was the one who got flamed! :D While I understand not wanting to help it would have been better if you did. If all 4 members of your team are doing baron and you ditch them they are gonna die and you will prob loose, if all 5 of you do it you stand a better chance of surviving and if it goes wrong you still loose. Even bad calls have a better chance if you do it together, if all 4 of your team make the same bad call at that point you’ve got nothing to loose in following up on the play and trying to pull it through, worst case scenario the exact same thing happens as if you don’t.
True! But I gave up on doing Baron and tried to bait enemy team. Even after poking and whatnot, my teammates still tried to do baron. It was around 20 minute. So imagine trying to do baron at around 20 min and having enemy team wait for your hp to fall behind 40% and then get easy kills! Its not about helping, its about doing baron while enemy team is there watching and preparing! I understand doing it faster but at around lvl 20 and I played support Sona, its kinda %%%%%%ed. And this was silver flex! So yeah, "together" fals apart when enemy team full hardcore rushes your team who at best , have below 70% hp XD Its more like, free-for-all XD
Mártir (EUW)
: The importance of both Champ Select, and Macro game/Decision Making... More than "Skill/Mechanics"
I had a game as support where I had warded baron, saw enemy support ward baron, my team started baron although I typed that baron was warded, even in caps lock! What is worse is that I even had warded bush in which they ( all five of them ) were hiding when my team just started baron XD Since I didnt want to help bcs it was obvious that we would all die :D I was the one who got flamed! :D Not the team that started baron while enemy team was alive, while enemy team was in bush waiting for us to lower HP on Baron.... XD Nope, they flamed me XD I even used red ward to show them that it was warded but you cant do a shiit in silver game :D
Aritmor (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SaiyanDarius,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PqIk0fZE,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T13:26:16.521+0000) > > What did he do wrong? He got first blood! What did his team do? Who is at fault here? He soaked exp on the mid lane and lost bot lane because it was 1v2. Honestly I think you need to crush mid far more than just get FB and zone him out a bit. Might be ok against melee mid laner but I do not think this will ever work against ranged as the lane is too short and they can still somehow farm from far.
Yeah, but if you look at scores and overall gameplay it was actually pretty good. For me, reason for lost game was was actually flame and afking! I mean, I would understand if that was silver or even gold, but they are playing at Master ( is it master? ). Are they not capable of playing 1vs2 on bot lane in master? Do they really need someone to spoon feed them crips and kills in master as adc??? I always thought higher elos are elos where gameplays are made! Like whenever you want to something godlike go look at streamers at master, challenger, mlg etc etc ( I dont do that XD ) of those players and you could actually gauge your lack of skill level XD! But this shows that I if I even try climbing to those elos I would eventually get to play with kids who will get me banned on first thing that is not played how they think it should be played! Sad!
Teahyun (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blakex13x,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PqIk0fZE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-15T11:43:01.874+0000) > > i would have done the same to be honest its a cope out people saying support can support anyone we all know support is meant to be on the bot lane with teh support and you can clearly see bot lane lost because sivir could not 1 v 2 like the so called troll thinks, he shouldnt have been in mid and should have been with his adc simple as that the ban was more than deserved people like this thinks its ok and lose matches. i agree. This is why many supports are insufferable. They only look at their net-gain. Maybe his sivir is pro and now gets denied to carry. Maybe his irelia is shit and the strat doesnt work because both tilt and int. Its soloQ and too many factors are there, which is why role selection exists. Its not a pro strat, a pro strat would be to learn how to play a real support and not gamble a game on teammates not tilting for someone having an autism explosion calling it "pro strat" btw the main point is that his entire team tilts and wants him to play properly and he refuses. Basically forcing his stupid sht onto all his teammates. This is also why the lvl1 roaming singed smite support got banned. EVEN if he would have a 80% winrate. The overal negative impact these players have on all their games = toxic. Toxic tilts people , tilt people create more toxic games. addition: you people trying to defend this are also the reason these boards are a fcking joke
What did he do wrong? He got first blood! What did his team do? Who is at fault here?
: You're right, wrong bandwagon for me here ^^ It made me think of another subject and brought it here. The first misunderstanding was mine about bodytype (I'm french and didn't fully understood the meaning of this word and yet reacted to it... a little too fast). Thanks for your information about kendo and how it affect the body. I extrapolate my knowledge with my own experience, but I'm a guy with a really really thin body by nature and when I trained I saw so much changes in my body (my arms if we talk visually)... My mistake here, thanks for correcting me on that point. Also for the daily training, I did exaggerate (bad habit of mine ^^), I know it can't be as much as I say but yet I tend to say it like that and it contribute to this common misunderstanding (feel like a fool here -.-). But yeah, even knowing that I probably overestimated the cadence of her training (since I'm more or less victim of this misunderstanding, I tend to overdo my own training and end up being sick, I keep trying to figure the limits). So, big thank you for what you taught me here and for your courtesy.
Its not that it was wrong bandwagon. I misunderstood your points first points which led me to a lot of misunderstanding! Also, on the point of training... I might've been wrong, because as you have said, we have different experiences! After reading your argument I realized I did spent a lot of training (counted in years) before I joined Kendo dojo! So there might be something there! But also we should take in account and how we might have different body reactions to trainings. I, for example, could never get abs no matter what training, but I did get monstrous stamina :D Its not that exaggeration is your bad habit, its just perceived as such as common opinion. Dont worry, even I made same mistake! :D But, this is first time I enjoyed argumenting and you made me happy that there is actually one reasonable and nice person on this boards! You, deserve honor!!! ( I do wish I could give you honor! ) Also, we both made mistakes and we both learned ( you did give nice points on rapier and really nice points on psychological viewpoints)! Thank you for that!
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