: Considering a lot of people do buy in game items/champions or whatever else for real cash and are unable to use these , the game technically isnt free according to my bank account.
its free to play...your option to spend!!!
: Weak late for unkillable lategame. Want earlygame dmg play draven.
and i dont necesarily need damage... just dont want to die from 2-5 hits from every enemy bot.. while i can hit them 7 times and dont reach half the damage they do to me from 4 shots
: > from WHAT ITEMS???? FROM ARMOR??? thats why i gave him example!!! I mean your last game vs him devourer and guinsoos. > he has to be in range... whyle i dont =)) .. he can q me from my pow pow range easily... even more!!! And that’s put him in range of every cc and damage ability your team has... where as jinx can attack without exposing herself to the whole enemy team with good positioning > If im Maining the whrong champ then why cold i carry way more last year then i can now???? Looking at your op.gg that ain’t true...,still bronze last year, a lower win rate on jinx than this year, lower kda, still getting way too many deaths. Honestly i don’t think it’s just jinx, if you are dying this much you’ve either need to actually learn positioning better or give up playing adcs cause that’s what is keeping you in bronze
: She’s a hyper carry, she has axweak early game... this is no different to the other hyper carries. If you want to win lane you’ve gotta rely on your support to do so, if not you’ve gotta farm and survive lane. So long as you ain’t feeding, and you farm well under tower you won’t loose lane, and as a hyper carry a draw in lane is a won lane. So again if you don’t like the fact that jinx has a weak early game go play something else
just told you that there are exactly other HYPERCARRY there that are not so squish early ike jinx and have the same late game as jinx...
: Ashe isn’t a hyper carry And all of those champions are as squishy as jinx, as well as dealing similar amounts of damage late game.
why is ashe from this season 1v1 me every single time if she is te same swuish like me???? last year i vas able to maintain lane with her and a lux..... now even lux when she reaches lvl 6 she s ulty takes more than half life from me if i ulty her i barly take 1/4 life from her... and i also have AD items and she has boots and the suport item that doesnt give her damage!!!!
: > Why does vayne with less stats than me do more damage than me at anny given hit??? She does have Blade of the ruined King. Your first item is a crit item, hers isn’t. So through her first item she is dealing more consistent damage, while yours you gotta get lucky with. > Just how is it possible for me to do less damage than her and to have more stats than her ??? Your kit isn’t good for adc vs adc fights, your main damage tool is an attack speed steroid making you good in teamfights and vs tanky targets, not so much vs other adcs. Vayne’s main damage is her silver bolts... she’s also a duelest she excels at 1v1s. Also don’t forget her ult gives her ad, yours isn’t good in a fight like this... so she had more ad than you So you might have more stats but her kit generates more damage at that point in the game. > Just why for me to kill her takes 13 HITS whyle ske left me with26 HP hiting me only 8 TIMES?????? Those 8 times is 2 silver bolt procs... a good amount of damage, jinx needed crits. Also remember you’ve got way more attack speed so while you might need more attacks you can output them faster > How the %%% is this a balanced game when i have more stats than her and she almost kills me from 8 hits and i kill her from F 13 HITS???? Your forgetting something big here You where level 10, she was level 11. She had another point in her ult than you did, she was ahead of you. The story isn’t that she had less stats cause she wouldn’t after the ult was used, the story is that from behind you out dpsed her... she should be the one complaining that she had the advantage and you still killed her.
if she wold have another shot she wold had made 400 dmg on me ... cos she had silver ready and her q.. so i dont quite know why i didnt do to her on my criticals only 201 damage if i had 154 AD.... and in somme cases i did 65 damage without a critical....that is my main concern.. The other is that she is still hipercarry like me
: Then learn to play her early game better or swap to someone who isn’t a hyper carry
ok i dont know what to say here: a mach againt a Vayne... same as me Hypercarry .. yes?? https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2201695426/221974074?tab=overview Go replay it i u dont believe me!!! minute 23:15 seconds: fight begins 1v1 Vayne lvl 11 has: 136AD 0AP 53Armor 34Mag.Resist 12%Lifesteal and 0%Critical Jinx lvl 10 has: 154AD 0AP 67Armor 45Mag.Resist 10%Lifesteal 30%critical So i have over her these stats: +18AP +14Armor +30Critical and she has over me 39HP and 2%more Life Steal than me!!! I barely beat her leaving me with 26 HP So my questions are: 1. Why does vayne with less stats than me do more damage than me at anny given hit??? She does have Blade of the ruined King. 2. Just how is it possible for me to do less damage than her and to have more stats than her ??? 3. Just why for me to kill her takes 13 HITS whyle ske left me with26 HP hiting me only 8 TIMES?????? 4. How the %%% is this a balanced game when i have more stats than her and she almost kills me from 8 hits and i kill her from F 13 HITS????
: Just 2 quick points, The damage is not calculated by taking the total damage minus the armor. And you didn't take into account things like runes. She may hit harder, but you got more attack speed so more DPS in longer fights. Jinx is better than Miss Fortune late game, you can't have it all. Jinx is a monster late game, buffing her more will make her broken. Here is a link with the actual calculations : [LOL Damage](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Damage) So everything you said is wrong. It's better to document yourself before making those kind of posts full of caps while blaming Riot or other people.
and one other thing about your link there... I do use Fandom... but there are no equations on there for nothing! No damage calculation example... no item passive calculation example....
: Nobodies damage has actually increased... damage control has decreased. Tanks are no longer around, this means you’ve got damage threats coming out of all 5 roles, and there’s not as much cc around to stop the damage. Hence the increase in damage. So jinx’s damage has increased just as much as everyone else, she just doesn’t handle receiving the damage as well as others
she doesnt handle receiving the damage .... but she doesnt hadle giving damage too??? if i want to be agressive i cant.... if i play def under the turet i end up loosing lane and having no items.... so whats the good path to take here??? go straight midlane like the laning phase is over and we gank whole team from start of mach??? I repead there are other hi[percarry thet do more damage han jinx and they are not as squish as JINX: cogmaw, vayne, twich, ashe... every single one of them are more capable than jinx early... and they can be as same as jinx late game too... so where is your logic man???
: Then learn to play her early game better or swap to someone who isn’t a hyper carry
have u played jinx??? why other hiper carry do better ddamage and are not so squish like jinx??? Cogmaw, Vayne, Ashe, Twich???? they are hyper too... and dont
: > from WHAT ITEMS???? FROM ARMOR??? thats why i gave him example!!! I mean your last game vs him devourer and guinsoos. > he has to be in range... whyle i dont =)) .. he can q me from my pow pow range easily... even more!!! And that’s put him in range of every cc and damage ability your team has... where as jinx can attack without exposing herself to the whole enemy team with good positioning > If im Maining the whrong champ then why cold i carry way more last year then i can now???? Looking at your op.gg that ain’t true...,still bronze last year, a lower win rate on jinx than this year, lower kda, still getting way too many deaths. Honestly i don’t think it’s just jinx, if you are dying this much you’ve either need to actually learn positioning better or give up playing adcs cause that’s what is keeping you in bronze
yes im gettink to manni deaths cos of her squish .... i need to farm dont i??? what shall i do if im so squish early??? sit under the turet??? and do nothing.... most of times that the only thing i can do annyway!!! thats the whole f reason im complayining here cos im forced either to sit and do nothing and farm leftovers under the turet cos avery singe adc outmaches me in damage 2 to 1 ....not to mention the supports too that deal more damage than me without them having anny damage items on them.... i mean cmon wtf is this shit balance man???? how the hell did riot think of maintainoiing lane this way for Jinx??? i tell you that they didnt!!!
: Miss fortune is an early game adc, great vs squishies and in the early game but very bad at taking out fighters and tanks which tends to be who adcs are forced to focus first in fights Jinx has a weak late but among the most powerful late games in the game, she shreds through tanks faster than most meaning she can rip apart teamfights with ease. As for that yi you mentioned... you are squishies than him and he can match you in dps... so you will loose that fight but he has to be in danger range during fights you don’t. Not to mention you should have a team to peel for you. Adcs like jinx requires peel but have the damage output to make up for it, if that doe#nt work for you then your maining the wrong champion
All my problems start early with Jinx...when i play on the lane phase
: All the comments told you the same, Jinx didn't change, she was always weak early and strong late. You can't have her become strong early just because you want to, each champion fits a certain category (Draven is for the early game). What changed is that games are shorter now, so she don't reach her late game strength very often. Her early game is still the same. It's a strategy game and each champion fits a specific role, the drafting phase is a part of that game, you can't always pick the same champ no matter what's the situation or the enemy team comp and then cry because you find it weak. You basically just want your champion to be always winning no matter what's the situation. So like someone else said, is this really is bothering you, then you're maining the wrong champ. It's like if I start saying "Why does rakan hits soo slow and everybody beats him? He needs to have more attack speed and more damage so I can build him crit/attack speed and carry the games" cause I don't want Riot to force me to change my champ. Simply put, that champion wasn't build to do that. For the fact that you need to depend on your support and jungler, that's very normal, it's a team game. You were never supposed to be able to win solo, if you don't like that, then league is not a good game for you. This aspect is getting refined more and more since no champion should be strong enough to win alone, especially not adcs. As for the calculations, I saw everything. But you only took the damage-armor which is not how it's calculated (look at the link, the formula is more calculated than that). Also, I wasn't talking about stat runes, but some runes adds lethality or damage after a duration (cheap short and scorch for example). And you can't just compare one or 2 autos and say MF is stronger, you're hitting faster than her thanks to your minigun's attack speed, so you'll deal more damage after a certain duration. MF is more about burst and poking, while Jinx melts people away with constant DPS that never goes down. I hope everything was clear for you.
https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2201493623/221974074?tab=overview here is another example of 1 mach with Miss Fortune look 24:37 Miss is lvl 14 me with Jinx lvl11 Miss has 210 AD 70 armor .... i have on Jinx 226 AD 59 Armor She has lethality i have 25% crit chance she aproaches me hits W ... hits E.... then Hits Q.... in under 1 second from 1 hit+Her falling E she brings me @ half life then hits me 2 more times and im dead..... u say that she is not overpowered... u say that jinx has more speed than her... whrong!!! So i manage to hit her 3 times in all that time and do a total of 485 damage on her.... including with one critical stryke that does 275 damage ONLY.... why??? when i have 226 AD and the shot cricaly hits and should do 225% from infinity edge. should have done 450 dmg nearly JUST FROM THAT CRITICAL STRYKE!!! but i did 485 from 3 hits!!!! im realy curous how manny ppl are actualy normal players and how manny are here to downgrade misslead and cover for riots vanity.
: Jinx has always been this squishy, it’s just that damage has increased in the game due to the lack of players going for low damage champions. Even then that’s who jinx is, she’s always had these strengths abd weaknesses... so I say again if you are unhappy with who jinx is your maining the wr8ng champion
yes the damage has increased in the game.... EXCEPT Jinx's damage!!!! \you sayd it!!!
: Miss fortune is an early game adc, great vs squishies and in the early game but very bad at taking out fighters and tanks which tends to be who adcs are forced to focus first in fights Jinx has a weak late but among the most powerful late games in the game, she shreds through tanks faster than most meaning she can rip apart teamfights with ease. As for that yi you mentioned... you are squishies than him and he can match you in dps... so you will loose that fight but he has to be in danger range during fights you don’t. Not to mention you should have a team to peel for you. Adcs like jinx requires peel but have the damage output to make up for it, if that doe#nt work for you then your maining the wrong champion
I vas talking about that yii becuse he is broken... he maches me in dps you say.....from WHAT ITEMS???? FROM ARMOR??? thats why i gave him example!!! =)) he has to be in range... whyle i dont =)) .. he can q me from my pow pow range easily... even more!!! If im Maining the whrong champ then why cold i carry way more last year then i can now????
: All the comments told you the same, Jinx didn't change, she was always weak early and strong late. You can't have her become strong early just because you want to, each champion fits a certain category (Draven is for the early game). What changed is that games are shorter now, so she don't reach her late game strength very often. Her early game is still the same. It's a strategy game and each champion fits a specific role, the drafting phase is a part of that game, you can't always pick the same champ no matter what's the situation or the enemy team comp and then cry because you find it weak. You basically just want your champion to be always winning no matter what's the situation. So like someone else said, is this really is bothering you, then you're maining the wrong champ. It's like if I start saying "Why does rakan hits soo slow and everybody beats him? He needs to have more attack speed and more damage so I can build him crit/attack speed and carry the games" cause I don't want Riot to force me to change my champ. Simply put, that champion wasn't build to do that. For the fact that you need to depend on your support and jungler, that's very normal, it's a team game. You were never supposed to be able to win solo, if you don't like that, then league is not a good game for you. This aspect is getting refined more and more since no champion should be strong enough to win alone, especially not adcs. As for the calculations, I saw everything. But you only took the damage-armor which is not how it's calculated (look at the link, the formula is more calculated than that). Also, I wasn't talking about stat runes, but some runes adds lethality or damage after a duration (cheap short and scorch for example). And you can't just compare one or 2 autos and say MF is stronger, you're hitting faster than her thanks to your minigun's attack speed, so you'll deal more damage after a certain duration. MF is more about burst and poking, while Jinx melts people away with constant DPS that never goes down. I hope everything was clear for you.
Nope she DIDNT change... thats what i tol you too ... EVERYONE AROUD HER GOT GHANGED!!!!! I dont want jinx to be stronger neccesarily ...but atleast ballanced on the damage that i take compared to the damage i doo to onthers ESPECIALY champions that are the same as me: ADCs and play on the same lane like me!!! I dont connsider FAIR for you if u mannage to hit your enemy 6 times with auto-atacks with Jinx, You barly reach the damage THEY DO TO YOU FROM 3 AUTOATACK HITS (im most cases)!!! its just not fair!!! U undermine skill with sheer power here!!! im not proplayer so i can mach a noob player that has a champion that does more damage without doing nothing having in mind that he is the same class and lane like me!!! and i dont mention champions from other lanes here. I dont want my champion to win everytime... i want to be able to win games by my ingame dexterity and ingame strategy not by what riot tells me to pick against someone!!! that means that this game is not balanced and i should know the whole rooster and every ability in the fuyking game to be good @ this game????!!! I DONT NEEED TO BE A TOTAL ADDICT OF THE GAME (like riots wants us to) IF IT WERE BALANCED!!!! IS THAT WHY THEY CHANGE THE METTA EVERY 2 WEEKS.... SO YOU HAVE NEW THINGS TO GET ADDICTED TO??? SO YOU WONT GET BORED AND LEAVE LOL BEHIND AND GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME???????? IS THAT WHY THEY REWORK ONE CHAMPION 3 CONSECUTIVE TIMES OVER... EVEN IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CHAMPION THAT IS NOT NEW IN THE GAME BUT 2 YEAR OLD ...OR A CHAMPION THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR AGES?? There is another manipulative and dodgy way riot makes the mach making system that i dont even wanna start ...how they team you with trolls if u have a nice and loong winning streak!!! There are other ways to earn $$$$ from the game riot ....you dont need to be so manipulative with our addicttion to the game and use subliminal things!!! Yes exactly.... its a strategy game... and i should do the strategy on the map and battle (maybe from runes too) but not by the way i pick my champion or what champion!!!! For the laning game where u tell me that i cant always pick the same champ nomatter the compossition of enemy team and cry that i find her weeak: I CRY COS I FIND HER WEEAK ON ALMOST ALL THE TIME...IN EARLY SITUATIONS.... AGAINST ALMOST ALL ADC....i hit my enemy 3 times i barely peel some hp from them.... they hit me once in somme cases over half of my life is gone... and i talk here real early game lvls 1-4.. with starter items equiped!!! not to mention that even supports with boots on them as soon they reach lvl 6 they ulty me for 3/4 life!!! Where is is mysupermega death roket?? Where is my damage???that is why i say that im totaly dependent on support and jungler... whyle enemy adcs are not so dependent on them... they dont necesarily need ganks to maintain theyr lane ....most of times i have a hard time even farming... THAS WHY I CRY THAT SHE IS WEEAK early!!! i end up loosing lane and having no items!!! I find her weakk now since this mid season!!!! the thing is that allot of times i get carried by team and the only thing i can doo is splitpush and push alone while ememy is distracted cos can chew throught turets alone!!! You say that im totaly dependent on team... that means that jinx cant carry the game... that i njeed team to peel f me!!! why in last years seazon i cold carry the games??? and now i cant annymore??? how do you explayin that???? PS: Miss is based on autoatacks just like me and she does way more damage than me.... if u put them side by side and let them do damage to eachother.... Miss wold have half life left by the time Jinx dies!!! And for the runes and calculations i told you thats why i did this early game on first hits so neither her Press The Atack wont acctivatre on her... wich by the way should be even more detrimental for me.. more unballance added on miss's favour!! As for cheapshot i wasnt stuneed or slowed for her to bennefit extra damage from it.
: Miss fortune is an early game adc, great vs squishies and in the early game but very bad at taking out fighters and tanks which tends to be who adcs are forced to focus first in fights Jinx has a weak late but among the most powerful late games in the game, she shreds through tanks faster than most meaning she can rip apart teamfights with ease. As for that yi you mentioned... you are squishies than him and he can match you in dps... so you will loose that fight but he has to be in danger range during fights you don’t. Not to mention you should have a team to peel for you. Adcs like jinx requires peel but have the damage output to make up for it, if that doe#nt work for you then your maining the wrong champion
Jinx wasnt so squish early like she is now....and riot didnt touch her!
: Weak late for unkillable lategame. Want earlygame dmg play draven.
have draven and dont like him. why do i need to play a speciffic champion or addapt to a speciffic meta since riot says this is a well ballaced game??? why do riot forces players to change playstyle or champion according to theyr meta that changes every 2 weeks? this means that they are playing with balance and metas for $$$ on our expense not to mention the way they play with our addiction to the game!! and thats why im OTP Jinx and wanna see if i can make it to high ranked status by playng only (as much as possible) JINX!!! Im 3 years in.... im still hooked riot.... but loosing intrest
: Just 2 quick points, The damage is not calculated by taking the total damage minus the armor. And you didn't take into account things like runes. She may hit harder, but you got more attack speed so more DPS in longer fights. Jinx is better than Miss Fortune late game, you can't have it all. Jinx is a monster late game, buffing her more will make her broken. Here is a link with the actual calculations : [LOL Damage](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Damage) So everything you said is wrong. It's better to document yourself before making those kind of posts full of caps while blaming Riot or other people.
Thats if u make it to late game !!! or your team carrys your ass!!! Her early game is v hard.. i cannot play aggresive most of times cos the enemy is purely outdamaging me. if they play aggressive i cannot farm propperly and end up loosing lane and having no items!!! U depoend too much on your supoort and jungler with Jinx! and forgot to mention that JINX WASNT LIKE THIS....(since the mid season 9 i started feeling her like this and i mention that i play jinx since i play lol 3 years ago).... AND SHE DIDNT GET NO REWORKS.... i dont understand from where does this early weakness is comming from since she didnt got touched by riot!!! And PS: i did calculate the base damage that adds with rune damage too and bonus damage from ability.... but i dont think you saw that!!! I also gave this example @ beggining of game where there arent so much items and synergy that affect the game and did it to an autoatack based champion!!
Rioter Comments
Câstiél (EUW)
: Jhin doesn't have something that scales into infinity. Jhin only gets his crit and AS converted to AD, but his AS won't get higher. Furthermore he has 4 shots, after which he needs time to reload. He can be balanced just like any other champ because of those two reasons (no AS increase and reload times). >its like im squish with jinx and try v hard to farm and not feed enemy to buy items when others just bypass the gold based rules and have allot of advantages!!!! I don't know at all what you want to tell me with that tbh. She is **not** underpowered rn though. Not at all. Just not an early game champ. Never was, never will be.
have a look at this mach ... relpay it and tell me how can he have almost 500AD from 2 ad items... the rest are crit and boots... explayn whats fair then!!! he takes me under half of life from his bouncinh bulet... thats one hit... not to mention his ulty!!! i cant do that damage even with my ulty wich supose to be super mega death rocket!!! https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2198677421/221974074?tab=overview
Câstiél (EUW)
: But you do realise that it's not about 1v1, right? Statistics about 1v1 would tell you exactly nothing. It's about the game as a whole, which is about Teamfights.
in team fight that winrate is relative then and means nothing.... since mid season 9 something happened... i dont know what... i just see that jinx isnt the way she was..... she got realy hard to maintain lane with her... not to mention farm the same time. i dont know what happened and what champions suffer from this asweal cos im otp and i play only Jinx... so i cant see on other champions the diferences i see and feel on JINX. She didnt get no reworks neither!!! From where is this comming from then??? i keep asking u this on other comments
Tarolock (EUNE)
: the first damage item you bought was at 25 (!!!) min in the form of {{item:1038}} not a single dmg item before that, as for the dmg on nasus he have more base armor than you, so he is doing more dmg to you... then the kiting, you have your grenades for rooting and your w for slowing him down, if he is able to reach you with all that then you are doing something wrong, and this is only on early levels, looking at the builds he bought nothing but armor, so why do you think that you should be able to dmg him with crit and attack speed when you have no ad? now an important thing about nasus: he can stack infinitely, which means he can get as much stacks as he wants, if you leave him to farm he will destroy you, even if he builds nothing but armor so once again, if you are a noob who dont know how to play against certain champs then either watch some guides, ask for info here or just ban him next time you are playing he is not unbalanced at all, especially vs jinx...
DOO LOOK THAT I HAD FULL {{item:3006}} BOOTS EQUIPED JUST FOR THE FACT TO SEE HOW WELL I CAN KYTE HIM...WICH I COLDNT HE ALWAYS WAS ABLE TO CATCH ME AND HIT ME AND HE HAD NO BOOTS WHATSOEVER! HOW CAN I KYTE HIM??? IM ADC U SAY!!! I DONT NEED TO BE A PROPLAYER FOR THE GAME TO FEEL BALANCED..... IM NO NOOB NEITHER ...ATLEAST ON JINX!!!
Câstiél (EUW)
: First, I want to reply to another comment you made: > Take a lok @ WOW for example.... if u had armor u didnt do damage... if u had damage u didnt had armor... either u were a tank that sustained the agro and could face huge amound of damage BUT COLDNT DO THE DAMAGE OF AN dps; or you cold doo dmage and die quicker if u stay too close. Not like NASUS that he needs the whole team to take him down and have the ability to oneshot you asweal.... to me that is a super TERMINATOR= unbalanced champ with BROKEN scriptos that defy balance of game!!! Tanks in PvP scenarios work differently than tanks in PvE. In PvE, Tanks just can go in first to get the attention of the enemies, so they tank the damage for their team. In PvP, they can't: The enemies can completely ignore tanks, so the tanks need tools so they can't be ignored. In league that means either two things: 1. Tanks got huge loads of CC to disrupt the enemies 2. Or they got damage Both points guarantee that they can't be ignored by the enemies. Now Nasus got no CC at all. All he's got, is Damage. If he wouldn't deal damage, he could entirely be ignored by the whole enemy team, essentially being useless. Now, back to your other comment. > where i specifficaly went top with Jinx vs Nasus Why do you specifically go top as a Jinx, especially against Nasus? ADCs go bot with a support, because they are the weakest champion-class in the early game (with some exceptions). Now, Nasus needs time to scale, just like Jinx. But in Lategame, a decently stacked Nasus against a Jinx will just wreck Jinx, if he gets close. But why do you pick an ADC like Jinx top anyway? You're weak af early, got no escape, no guaranteed cc, no self sustain. Something like Riven, Aatrox, Jax would have destroyed you even more. And those champs are common on toplane. Looking at your posted link, Nasus had 175 bonus Armor, bringing him to 200+ Armor (on top of his Trinity Force, with gives him a huge damage spike) against your 55 bonus AD, without penetration or anything. And you wonder, why you don't deal damage? He's a tank, and even something like Maokai or Nautilus would have dealt damage to you, since you had no bonus health or resistances. > First thing is he Nasus has more Movement Speed than me Jinx ADC... who somme proplayers saythat im supoose to kite him easy (yes shure .. maibe if i add flash somere along the kite). He has more Movement Speed because he is Meele, base stats are generally higher. Melees have to get on top of you to deal damage. And yes, pros can kite him easily. Watch streams of high elo ADC-Mains, who kite a lot. You've got your traps to root and slow him, and your W to slow him heavily. > Second: form his Q he does early 30(AD)+72(AD)+27(AP) equiped with dorans shield wich give him no damage..... meanwhile 1 pow-pow auto atack does to him 41 total damage! You already said it basically. He used a Q, which emoweres his Basic Attack. If he uses his Q on you, he can't use it to farm, resulting in having less damage in mid- to lategame. And he won't deal that much damage to you with his Q, since you have base armor. So it gets reduced, just like your Autoattack. His AA by default will deal more damage, because he is melee and you are range. He has to walk up to you to apply that damage while you can stay back and damage him. On top of that, he has more armor than you, so he reduces your AA more than you reduce his AA. PLUS Nasus used his AA enhancer, his Q, which deals bonus damage. > How comme somme champions can be made so overpowered against others like jinx who increases her AD by buing items???? Nasus can increase his AD just like me ... how is his damage beeing reduced if he decides to build ad items and not armor in order to make him overpowered??? Me with Jinx CANT reach his stupendous damage from 1 given hit like he does..... no matter how much AD, combined with CRITICAL, i put on her.... + try and kyte him if you can since he has more movement speed than me even if i have boots equiped not too mention that he has the ability to reduce my MS fast and from far away... wich means that he can excede my pow-pow range from start Same reasoning from the start of this comment. Nasus is a Damage-Tank. If he wouldn't have that damage, he could be completely ignored. And his damage needs rampup time. His Q is not really strong by itself, only if he takes like 20 Minutes to get beyond 400+ Q stacks (everytime he kills a minion his Q damage increases, but this makes him relatively weak compared to other toplaners). And you can reduce his MS too, with your W. You can even hard CC him with your traps. > Why do riot make these kind of unneven abilitys on somme champions... like to one u givve them the magic wand and the other u dont give them nothing only damage based on theyr weapons that they BUY??? YOU SHOULD MAKE ALL CHAMPIONS HAVE THEYR DAMAGE BEEING BUILD ONLY THROUGHT ITEM PURCHASE AND LVLING!!! DONT PUT SEPARATE DAMAGE ON ABILITY THAT ADDS UP TO ITEM DAMAGE... THIS IS THE CORE OF YOUR UNBALANCED GAME AND MOST OF YOUR BUGGS!!! This isn't the core of the "unbalanced game" there are a couple of Champs who can stack invinitly: * Nasus (Damage on Q) ~ 51,4% WR * Thresh (Resistances, not the reason why he's so popular tho) ~ 50,3% WR * Veigar (AP) ~ 50,1% WR * Sion (HP) ~ 50,0% WR * Kindred (Range?) ~ 49,6% WR * Bard (Enhancing abilities) ~ 50,8% WR None of these champions is pick or ban right now. They are quite well balanced because of the fact that they can stack infinitly: Because if they get their stacks denied, they're completely shit. Looking at their winrates, they're all pretty close to 50%, which is the ideal value. They're all decently balanced right now. (given that the top 10 Champs are at 53+ %)
u forgot jhin where he has 500 ad from 1 ad item and the rest crit and as... this is just stupid the way riot makes new champions and giving the ability that multiply stats... its like im squish with jinx and try v hard to farm and not feed enemy to buy items when others just bypass the gold based rules and have allot of advantages!!!! and by the way JINX ASNT LIKE THIS!!!! she didnt get no reworks!!!!! FROM WHERE THE HELL IS SO UNDERPOWERED ALLOFASUDDEN??? CAN U EXPLAYN THAT PLS?? THEY ADD AND ADD NEW AND NEW CHAMPIONS WITH UNIQUE ABILITYS
Blakex13x (EUW)
: your match making needs to be fixed.
IF THEY DID SOMETHING WITH THE TROLLERS THERE WOLDNT BE SO MUCH PROBLEMS!!!
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >Why cant i do damage if i put armor items on Jinx????? defensive stats/items doesnt give dmg >Why does nasus if he puts armor items on him can do the amounts of damage that he does from 1 taken hit???? nasus is melee with tankiness to somewhat negate his pretty short range, he is weak vs kiting and if you let him farm then he will oneshot not only you but towers too
- about an hour ago Ok here is this mach so i can shut everyones muths ... more those who say that u can avoid easily oneshot champs like rengar nasus chazix etc... My friend take a lokk @ this mach where i specifficaly went top with Jinx vs Nasus... https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2198615124/221974074?tab=overview Go replay and look the f broken overpowered damage that some champions have.... in this case NASUS!! Beggining game NASUS has: 72 AD 0 AP 51 armor 34 magic ressist 350 movement speed he has equiped Dorans Shield I have on Jinx siple boots and my stats are: 59 AD 0 AP 34 armor 38 Magic resist 350 MS with BOOTS EQUIPED 1. First thing is he Nasus has more Movement Speed than me Jinx ADC... who somme proplayers saythat im supoose to kite him easy (yes shure .. maibe if i add flash somere along the kite). 2. Second: form his Q he does early 30(AD)+72(AD)+27(AP) equiped with dorans shield wich give him no damage..... meanwhile 1 pow-pow auto atack does to him 41 total damage! 3. How comme somme champions can be made so overpowered against others like jinx who increases her AD by buing items???? Nasus can increase his AD just like me ... how is his damage beeing reduced if he decides to build ad items and not armor in order to make him overpowered??? Me with Jinx CANT reach his stupendous damage from 1 given hit like he does..... no matter how much AD, combined with CRITICAL, i put on her.... + try and kyte him if you can since he has more movement speed than me even if i have boots equiped not too mention that he has the ability to reduce my MS fast and from far away... wich means that he can excede my pow-pow range from start!!! 4. Why do riot make these kind of unneven abilitys on somme champions... like to one u givve them the magic wand and the other u dont give them nothing only damage based on theyr weapons that they BUY??? YOU SHOULD MAKE ALL CHAMPIONS HAVE THEYR DAMAGE BEEING BUILD ONLY THROUGHT ITEM PURCHASE AND LVLING!!! DONT PUT SEPARATE DAMAGE ON ABILITY THAT ADDS UP TO ITEM DAMAGE... THIS IS THE CORE OF YOUR UNBALANCED GAME AND MOST OF YOUR BUGGS!!!
Câstiél (EUW)
: They all can be avoided. You don't die if they're near you unless they are extremely fed or you stay close to them. Both Rengar and Heca can be countered. For example, if you flash after Rengar leaps, only his AA and Q will hit you, not resulting in a death. If someone of your team is near you, Rengar won't be able to kill you after that (mostly). If noone is near you, it's your fault. Rengar is an Assassin, and Assassins are designed to delete squishy Champs, ADCs at the first place. Heca on the other hand is like Aatrox, no opportunity to oneshot (unless heavily fed), but can just run you down because they're tanky. Both Heca and Aatrox are strong rn, Aatrox even being a much bigger problem once the player is good with him.
Ok here is this mach so i can shut everyones muths ... more those who say that u can avoid easily oneshot champs like rengar nasus chazix etc... My friend take a lokk @ this mach where i specifficaly went top with Jinx vs Nasus... https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2198615124/221974074?tab=overview Go replay and look the f broken overpowered damage that some champions have.... in this case NASUS!! Beggining game NASUS has: 72 AD 0 AP 51 armor 34 magic ressist 350 movement speed he has equiped Dorans Shield I have on Jinx siple boots and my stats are: 59 AD 0 AP 34 armor 38 Magic resist 350 MS with BOOTS EQUIPED 1. First thing is he Nasus has more Movement Speed than me Jinx ADC... who somme proplayers saythat im supoose to kite him easy (yes shure .. maibe if i add flash somere along the kite). 2. Second: form his Q he does early 30(AD)+72(AD)+27(AP) equiped with dorans shield wich give him no damage..... meanwhile 1 pow-pow auto atack does to him 41 total damage! 3. How comme somme champions can be made so overpowered against others like jinx who increases her AD by buing items???? Nasus can increase his AD just like me ... how is his damage beeing reduced if he decides to build ad items and not armor in order to make him overpowered??? Me with Jinx CANT reach his stupendous damage from 1 given hit like he does..... no matter how much AD, combined with CRITICAL, i put on her.... + try and kyte him if you can since he has more movement speed than me even if i have boots equiped not too mention that he has the ability to reduce my MS fast and from far away... wich means that he can excede my pow-pow range from start!!! 4. Why do riot make these kind of unneven abilitys on somme champions... like to one u givve them the magic wand and the other u dont give them nothing only damage based on theyr weapons that they BUY??? YOU SHOULD MAKE ALL CHAMPIONS HAVE THEYR DAMAGE BEEING BUILD ONLY THROUGHT ITEM PURCHASE AND LVLING!!! DONT PUT SEPARATE DAMAGE ON ABILITY THAT ADDS UP TO ITEM DAMAGE... THIS IS THE CORE OF YOUR UNBALANCED GAME AND MOST OF YOUR BUGGS!!!
Câstiél (EUW)
: So you're basically whining because Jinx is 'weak'? But you do realise that Jinx' winrate is above 53% from Iron to Diamond? Statistics don't lie, Jinx is strong rn and she's been strong for quite some time now.
cos maybe i am not playing her from yesterday and maybe i get carried by team alot of time!!!! make statistics based on 1v1 then so you wold know exactly her winrate
Sefi (EUNE)
: Well, duskblade. That and lee being primarily an assassin, whos by desing supposed to counter ADs. What kind of boots did you have? Tabis would help. But again, AA based crit ADCs are teamfighters, just possition properly around your team and you should be ok-ish.
i had these boots {{item:3006}} And thats why i build lefesteal and AS to be able to carry more 1v1.... Some cases why can they do the damage they do from 1 hit if they have less AP than me... whyle i hace criticall chance too??? is that logik to you?? or for riot?? Is like riot makes somme champions stats straight from the ferryland givving them magical unique base stats and they can equip whatever cos they do damage from air... no damage items needed
Sefi (EUNE)
: You do know that Susans damage comes from his stacks, right? An adc is no threath to him 1v1, unless its something like an overfed draven or a decently good vayne. Between his stacked Q doing 50 - 100% of your health on a 4 second cooldown and his 90% slow that lowers AS as well you really have no business being anywhere around him without at least 2 other people ready and willing to peel for you.
So from what u say he does have allot of damage on him since i need another 2 allyes or the whole team on him to mach him!!! Take a lok @ WOW for example.... if u had armor u didnt do damage... if u had damage u didnt had armor... either u were a tank that sustained the agro and could face huge amound of damage BUT COLDNT DO THE DAMAGE OF AN dps; or you cold doo dmage and die quicker if u stay too close. Not like NASUS that he needs the whole team to take him down and have the ability to oneshot you asweal.... to me that is a super TERMINATOR= unbalanced champ with BROKEN scriptos that defy balance of game!!!
Afelers (EUNE)
: No, I did get all of your frustration and your point. I meant people will only see that another flamer is contaminating the Boards and downvote then move to the next post.
I made this post mostly for RIOT to see... beeing a socalled flamer doesnt make me a liar and im not contaminating nothing.... maybe the only thing im "CONTAMINATING" is RIOTS pride and vanity !!!
Nar7ia (EUW)
: ADC is a teamfight role, not a 1v1 or duel role. If you are trying to 1v1 someone, especially someone like Nasus you are going to get disappointed unless maybe you are someone like fed {{champion:67}}. That is why you have support and tanks who peel and protect you because literally everyone from tanks to assassin can easily defeat you in 1v1 unless you are super fed. ADC's are meant to do high sustain damage while being squishy but tanks and bruisers often have high base damage on their abilities while also having couple of CC's which is how they build defensive items and defeat you. It's just how the game works, nothing we can do about it. If you want to play ADC, you need to learn proper positioning and try to get your team to protect you.
Ok then what abot early game where every adc has double my damage!!! do i fight top lane early?? Jinx is so bad right now... early game i cant even farm most of times cos enemy pokes me and i die from 4 hits... if i auto them i do shit damage and it takes me way much more hits to land on enemy and fewer hits for them to land on me (like half) ... even lux now wi%%%% f items can 1v1 me easy!!!! I try and play safe early ending up farming under the turet... if enemy jg ganks they farm me even under the turet. If i try and play aggressive i cant purely for the fact that all adc are doing much more damage than Jinx and i have to land twice the hits on anny givven champion all because they all got reworked and jinx got left behind with the damage! If u gonna say that Jinx is hypercarry and has late game why do Kog'Maw, Twitch, Tristana, Vayne, Xayah have more damage than me??? They are hypercarry too... just like Jinx!! With what option am i equipeed??? change my adc champion??? to what riots latest metas are??? JINX WASNT LIKE THE WAY SHE IS NOW... used to own lux @ 1v1 ... now allofsuden all champs got reworked and they to more damage than forgoten Jinx!!! Im totaly dependant on my supp and jg early games.... TOTALY!!! if they are bad its hard f mee to farm and keep up with enemy cs score ending up loosing lane and having no items!!! What am i suppose to do??? go straight mid lane like lane phase is over.... and gank my teammates since u say that jadc is teamfight role??? wtf am i then... jungler???
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Why does nasus if he puts armor items on him can do the amounts of damage that he does from 1 taken hit???? Because someone let him free farm for his Q, yeah you lose if you do that, the same as if you let veigar farm for his passive lol
if i let him farm for 1 hour can he one shot say baron? he shoul have his Q cappet or limited then. why dont i get my Q passive boosted by farming?? so my pow-pow gains so much AS that shots @ lightspeed?
Afelers (EUNE)
: You would have a point if you reworded the post, it's hard to get your message across like this.
take a look down..... previous reply to sefi... maybe im more clear there
Sefi (EUNE)
: So he ended the game 2 levels above you. Safe to assume he was a higher level pretty much all game, so what makes you think youd be able to do anything to him when he had like 3k gold advantage from levels alone?
Nasus has 35 ad from items no crit chance and 1 item with pssive ad. I have 175 ad + passive ad bonus, 50% crit and 22% lifesteal. Now bassed only from items and we leave aside the fact that he has armor and lets say that i cant do damage on him, .... but why can he take 3/4 or 70% of my life from 1 hit since hes equipped 35 AD on him and NO CRITICAL ON HIM ??? i came right from resspawn and he didnt had time to put his stacs on me.... neither was i in his circle!!! Why??? From where??? from his broken and unbalanced (ill logic) core stats maybe??? riot tries to do unique players but they dont use a common, balanced and fair universal base core, or the same root for all champions stats pool!!! i get that they have unique ability, spells.... they add up and complicate unique stats so much that they end up ruining the game. They add 1 new thing that breaks up old existing things... Say if they need 100 types of damage: base damage, bonus damage (these 2 i get) true damage, pure damage... why not make all champions have it and juglle with the ammounts that each champion has, instead of giving to one champion but not to the other.
Sefi (EUNE)
: So he ended the game 2 levels above you. Safe to assume he was a higher level pretty much all game, so what makes you think youd be able to do anything to him when he had like 3k gold advantage from levels alone?
what about this one then: https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2197629636/221974074?tab=overview Where lee from 1 kick almost totals me.... brand the same oneshots me fom 2 spells whyle me jinx (full item set and 75% critchance 370ad) hit him 5 consecutive shots and he doesnt die.... and i have 2 lefesteal items on me ( bought his before enfing game dont count this one i had boots instead {{item:3091}} )
Rioter Comments
: Because of how the damage is dealt... most of these champions can deal a lot of burst damage but afterwards needs to wait for cooldowns, that means that if their target doesn’t die they have failed and loose a lot of usefulness. Adcs have no such weakness (besides maybe jhin) and thus can keep dealing damage throughout the fight. So while a burst champion might not die as fast they’ve got periods of time where they don’t contribute anything, where as adcs die faster but the entire time they are alive they are dealing damage So while adcs might not deal as much damage up front they deal way more damage the longer they are alive so it’s important to have them be killable
like nasus??? when the whole team is on him and destrys uss ha..... %%%ing colldowns..... ton of life ton of armor and ton of damage... THAT IS %%%IN SUPER TERMINATOR!!!!! I CANT DO THAT WITH JINX IF I PUT ARMOR IN HER I CANT DO ANNY %%%IN DAMAGE WITH HER... SIMPLE!!!! RIOTER POSTERS THAT DO ANNYTHING TO DEMOTE WELL MADE POINTS AND EXPOSE BROKEN SHIT ON THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!! KEEP SWEPING THE SHIT UNDER THE RUGG TILL U WILL INTOXICATE ON IT!!!
: Because of how the damage is dealt... most of these champions can deal a lot of burst damage but afterwards needs to wait for cooldowns, that means that if their target doesn’t die they have failed and loose a lot of usefulness. Adcs have no such weakness (besides maybe jhin) and thus can keep dealing damage throughout the fight. So while a burst champion might not die as fast they’ve got periods of time where they don’t contribute anything, where as adcs die faster but the entire time they are alive they are dealing damage So while adcs might not deal as much damage up front they deal way more damage the longer they are alive so it’s important to have them be killable
YES LIKE ME ADC WHEN IM FULL ITEMS LATE GAME AND HERE COMMES LEE SIN WITH ONE HIT TAKES ALLMOST ALL MY LIFE.... FROM ONE HIT MAN!!!! IS THAT BALANCE TO YOU??? WHERE I NEED TO SHOOT ENEMY 15 TIMES F HIM TO DIE WHYLE THEY CAN ONESHOT ME??? WITH THEYR SOCALLED BURST DAMAGE??? OR SUPP BRAND 1 FIREBALL BLAST TAKES 3/4 LIFE FROM ME WHYLE I HIT HIM 3 TIMES WITH 75 CRITCHANCE AND 400 AD AND DONT DO THE DAMAGE HE DOES ON ME FROM 1 F HIT %%% RIOT AND THE DAMAGE BALANCE IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: > [{quoted}](name=ScorpioGG,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pL2sdkFo,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-05T11:20:44.352+0000) > > DOES THE WINRATES OBTAYNED ONLY FROM high elo proplayers??? cos thats how riot doing theryr nerfs and all based only on those players!!! > Do you think thats a ballanced game when a support with no items can 1v1 me? thats the exact problem of the game u dont excell from your personal paystyle but by what riot makes the meta like.... this is not balance and from my oppinion ... IT IS A NEET MANNIPULATIVE DISGUISED way MADE BY greedy RIOT IN ORDER TO BOOST PROFITS BY PLAYING ant twiching WITH THE ITEMSTATS, NERFING CHAMPIONS 100 TIMES OVER BASED ON THE POPULARITY, ETC..... ALL MADE IN THE NAME OF REFRESHING THE GAME AND MAKING IT LESS BORRING!!!! =))) THATS A LAUGH FOR ME AND THATS HOW I CONTURATE ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE IN LOL... every pach gets less fun in the game!!! if they were trully after making the game more fun they wouldt turn to clandestine sublimminal sneaky ways of manipulating your addiction!!! once again this is my point of wiew!!! > thats how i see things .... maybe cos im OTP .....JINX. Riot has made a pretty much clear graphic about how they do nerf/buff with champions. Anyway, if tanks are a problem to you then you don't have the knowledge to counter them and win more elo and as an adc and thats your problem, You should take the time to read active/passive of the items your buy
: Cause if he START casting only hard cc can cancel it. That how this game works. That same apply to auto attacks if you have your attack animation and somebody get out of your attack range your attack will still go on.
omfg.... the point is : how the %%% can he cast the ulty since im pow pow range of him and running away???? how can he cast that distance if he is a mellee champ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? lear to read im telling u for 3rd time
: > [{quoted}](name=ScorpioGG,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pL2sdkFo,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-05T10:56:45.723+0000) > > Ok first off all im OTP JINX and didnt play jinx since yesterday. > why does every adc do more damage than me then??? since we are both adcs??? why is jinx so squish compared to all adc then???? YES SHE IS HIPER CARRY but JINX WANST LIKE THIS!!!! AND SHE DIDNT GET NO REWORKS ON HER!!! ALL OTHERS GOT REWORKED AROUND HER whyle she remains the same .... > why do i feel that from this year that i cant play jinx the way i cold... i cold handle the lane even if my supp was noob and sat behind me all time ???? nowadays im forced to play much more under the turet!!! IF I HAVE A NOOB SUPPORT AND AVERAGE ENEMY I LOSE MY LANE!!! NOT TO MENTION THE ENEMY JUNGLERS GETING GANKED BOT.... > SEE HOW FAST I LOOSE THIS MACH HERE WHEN I HAVE NOOB SUPPP AND MY JUNGLER IS NEVER COMMING BOT LANE FOR A GANK!! > > https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2196808985/221974074?tab=overview > > > See how dependant is jinx on support and jg!!! See how quich miss snowballs and obliterateds my lane!!! > I REPEAT.... JINX WASNT LIKE THIS!!!! even then i wasnt picking donans sheld... first items were longsword and heal... all the time those were my starting items.... now i cant even mach with dorans sheld equipped as starer items!!! > \RIOT WAKE THE UP!!!! SLAP YOUR SCRIPTERS TEAM lazy arses OUTOF THE DONUT and CIGAR BREAKS cos they are doing terrible jobs withj the balance in the game!!! every pach seemt to bring this game only .....bad experience the game isnt fun annymore!!! Yeah thats how ADC works, you are a champion that can 1v5 in late game if people protect you, but unless you got all your items you're useless. thats how ADC works
and am i playing againt tanks early on top lane or something???? problem still there when i play against other adc
: Are you stupid or something? Garen ult works as AUTO if he START CASTING IT YOU CAN'T FLASH AWAY. .....Your understanding of game is so small that's a joke.
how the f can he cast whyle am farr away from him running away?? learn to f read then type a comment!!! his ulty seems to be more extended than his autos!!!
: It’s not the differences in class damage, it’s the difference between their tankiness... adcs are squishy, it doesn’t take much to kill them, others are more durable and thus survive better. And given adcs still have some of the highest sustained dps late game it makes sense they are squishy, and jinx is a hyper carry meaning her early game is weak in exchange for a very powerful late game... part of the skill with jinx is learning how to survive the early game
what it doent make sence to me is that i get theyr are tankier... but why the hell do they do burst damage equal or even way more than adc??? how can a tankier champ do more damage than me adc and oneshot me??? whyle i dont have theyr tankiness??? thats what i mean by balance in game!!! you dont LET a champ with tonns of ARMOR and LIFEBARR do BIG DAMAGE.... either he is tank and take aloot of damage but you wont let him to oneshot you!
: > [{quoted}](name=ScorpioGG,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pL2sdkFo,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-03T21:54:09.670+0000) > > IM OTP JINX.... and wanna try to climb the leader this way!!! i dont like it when riot forces me to play their desired manipulative paths!!! Well, yeah jinx has the best winrate in the game actually, but you need to keep in mind that even a support will 1v1 you until you're strong enough
DOES THE WINRATES OBTAYNED ONLY FROM high elo proplayers??? cos thats how riot doing theryr nerfs and all based only on those players!!! Do you think thats a ballanced game when a support with no items can 1v1 me? thats the exact problem of the game u dont excell from your personal paystyle but by what riot makes the meta like.... this is not balance and from my oppinion ... IT IS A NEET MANNIPULATIVE DISGUISED way MADE BY greedy RIOT IN ORDER TO BOOST PROFITS BY PLAYING ant twiching WITH THE ITEMSTATS, NERFING CHAMPIONS 100 TIMES OVER BASED ON THE POPULARITY, ETC..... ALL MADE IN THE NAME OF REFRESHING THE GAME AND MAKING IT LESS BORRING!!!! =))) THATS A LAUGH FOR ME AND THATS HOW I CONTURATE ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE IN LOL... every pach gets less fun in the game!!! if they were trully after making the game more fun they wouldt turn to clandestine sublimminal sneaky ways of manipulating your addiction!!! once again this is my point of wiew!!! thats how i see things .... maybe cos im OTP .....JINX.
: ADC are meant to deal damage in late game. Look for some stats, you buy a long sword for 350g, it give you 10 AD right ? Now buy a ruby crystal for 400 and you'll get 150 hp, to take down 150 hp with 10 AD you'll need 15 hits, (and this with true damage, if we take the actual armor on that champion it will be 30 hits with 100 armor) (Yeah I know nobody have 100 armor with only a ruby) To make that AD you bought more effiency you need : Attack speed and critical chance (and critical damage from the IE) and for that you'll need money. And yeah, IMO adc are useless since they went back to the old IE, pick a mage bot an ruin the ADC life and aim to finish the game before their adc get enough items seems a better choice to me than having the need to farm 4 items before dooing damage
Ok first off all im OTP JINX and didnt play jinx since yesterday. why does every adc do more damage than me then??? since we are both adcs??? why is jinx so squish compared to all adc then???? YES SHE IS HIPER CARRY but JINX WANST LIKE THIS!!!! AND SHE DIDNT GET NO REWORKS ON HER!!! ALL OTHERS GOT REWORKED AROUND HER whyle she remains the same .... why do i feel that from this year that i cant play jinx the way i cold... i cold handle the lane even if my supp was noob and sat behind me all time ???? nowadays im forced to play much more under the turet!!! IF I HAVE A NOOB SUPPORT AND AVERAGE ENEMY I LOSE MY LANE!!! NOT TO MENTION THE ENEMY JUNGLERS GETING GANKED BOT.... SEE HOW FAST I LOOSE THIS MACH HERE WHEN I HAVE NOOB SUPPP AND MY JUNGLER IS NEVER COMMING BOT LANE FOR A GANK!! https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2196808985/221974074?tab=overview See how dependant is jinx on support and jg!!! See how quich miss snowballs and obliterateds my lane!!! I REPEAT.... JINX WASNT LIKE THIS!!!! even then i wasnt picking donans sheld... first items were longsword and heal... all the time those were my starting items.... now i cant even mach with dorans sheld equipped as starer items!!! \RIOT WAKE THE UP!!!! SLAP YOUR SCRIPTERS TEAM lazy arses OUTOF THE DONUT and CIGAR BREAKS cos they are doing terrible jobs withj the balance in the game!!! every pach seemt to bring this game only .....bad experience the game isnt fun annymore!!!
: Cause you can't flash away if he cast it? Like you can't flash away from auto attack. After what I read now I lost any faith in you.....
did u even noticed that i was talking about his ulty not his auto??? i flashed away manny times when he got to close to me and had my life low and he can ulty me from distance... almost my pow pow range...dont tell me that he cast it when i was near him hen i was running away from him he folowing me and see that he can cast his uly from far awy on me since he is ranged champ learn to read and pay more attencion if u gonne comment something PS i dont neet your faith mate didnt even ask for it... JUST NEED RIOT TO DO THEYR JOB PROPPERLY!!! THATS IT
: I know what you mean. Reaching lategame can be a rate occasion nowadays. Unfortunatle i can't suggest anything to you since i don't play adc (thats why my opinion of jinx lategame is from the enemies perspective). I' sure there are guide on youtube and various sites that can help you out.
nop you dont know... jinx wasnt like this!!!! they didnt do nothing to her but all champs aroud her got reworked... Why does jinx do the least damage of all adcs??? Why is she the most squish adc out there??? ERALY GAME Compare my pow pow auto to miss or anny other adc!!! they all do atleast double the damage with autos!!! arent all adcs late game??? i take one q from miss takes almost half my life away (beeing the first target.. if im the second one she takes more than half my life)... i do one roket on her and dont do even half of her Q damage and werre both lvl 4 with starting items... me with dorans shield too RIOT JUST WTF HAVE U DONEE HERE COS JINX WANT LIKE THIS!!!! i play under the turet and die even under the turet cos enemy can gank and kill me so easy. HOW TF am i suppose to play JINX????? before if i had a bad support didnt matter somuch cos i cold keep balance on lane!!! Now im totaly dependent on my supp and jg!!! if i have a noob supp and noob jg i lose my lane v easy... how the f can i reach lategame????? BUy support items for gold??? cos i cant even farm... every noob pinns me againt the turet nowadays and loose farm !! RIOT WAKE THE %%% UP PLS!!!!!! if u call this balance i dont know what to say!!! JINX WANT SO SQUISH!!!!! here take a lokkk what happens when i have a noob supp that sits always behind me and when the jg iss noob to and does no ganks.....PLS LOKK AT THIS AND TELL ME HOW U CAN CALL THIS BALANCED GAME WHE I GET DIVED UNDER THE TURET FROM LVL 4 https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2196808985/221974074?tab=overview
: >i should do the biggest damage as adc??? No you shouldn't do biggest damage as adc.... I have no idea why you think like that. >Why do riot keeps modifing somme cahmpions over and over again whyle others are forgotten???? why dont they givve >the same attencion to all champions??? Cause no all champions have 30% win rate or 80% win rate. Or are just anoing to play against. Some champion have small plyer base and have around 50% win rate so they don't need any fast changes. >why can somme classes of champions can oneshot other classes of champions cannot oneshot no champions??? Cause that how this game works, like any other moba. >Jinx wasnt so bad early but sommehow she got affected by all the changes done to other champions or items or runes!!! Why you compare any champion to times when it was stronges and unbalanced. That's not how balance works. >Why dont riot let one champion the way u buld it first pach that it came out??? i dont get why they need to keep modifing >things??? Cause people find new ways to play some champions abusing mechanics or they are just too weak/strong. >PS: about the meele mode... somme meele chaps have range equal to my pow pow... and im suppose to be ranged with >JiNX!!! No mele champions have range even close to any adc
Why does garen ulty me from 1 mile away then.. even when i flash and runnaway ?? ind this is not a 1 time thing that im talking about. Ppl find new ways to exployt the changes made by riot. I played yii 2 years ago got him to lvl 7... why do riot needs to return after 2 years to nerf master again then?? Maybe cos they wont think in advance when they change something? That is what i mean when they nerf 1 champ over and over again! From what you say about balance and my thinking drives me to understand that back then yii was broken and thats why they nerfed him.... and now he is balanced (NOT)... he is more broken than ever.
: Jinx lategame with no damage? Jinx lategame is litraly unkillable with lethal tempo. Are you playing klepto jinx or something?
i cant often reach lategame with jinx.........itaht the point iwanna make about the damage balance
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