Pixelbits (EUW)
: Seperate premade teams from solo queue?
At this point make solo que...Solo. If that would happen im sure climbing will be better +boosting wont exist that mutch.
MamaDuck (EUW)
: I have faced these champs and i got to say, a great counterpick to Yasuo is Jhin. I'd say this mostly for Jhins movementspeed boost on his crit shots. And since Jhin shoot few but heavy shots it's a great poke against Yasuo. Zed is scary at times and he pokes quite alot. You can win against him by basically only focusing on farm, since ganks often won't succed against him. Diana is also scary, but you win against her early game. Fizz is horrible and i basically permaban him every game whatever champ I play mid. At the moment Jhin is in my opinion the best of-meta adc that can be played midlane (other than champs like Corki, Ez and Trist which I find already are midlaners.)
It doesnt matter if you get lucky to win early..Because ofc {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:131}} got no range.But all of them scale even better then adc now. By simply taking {{item:3047}} your dmg is greatly reduced especially early game.Yasuo does scale very well and blocks all your shots so you cant even kill him zed gets 6 with diana you got no chance to kill them and they go all in you die. Its a risky pick adc mid.And even tho some games you may be lucky you will find decent zed yasuo players too and they will destroy you.
Sir GRAS (EUW)
: Azir is too weak
If they buff him again pro players abuse it and riot will be "oh op nerf". Sadly most nerfs are based on pro stage.Thats why many champs will stay in the shadows like azir. I agree his not op he needs some help but it wont happen
: Azir was absolutely dominant just a few months ago which is why they nerfed him in 9.16. We really don't need the Corki Azir meta back. We would need some changes to make him better for casual players without buffing him in proplay; but that is really hard to do as we saw with the Ryze mini rework which turned out to be futile.
Azir was dominant in pro stage not solo que.Maybe high elo like chalenger maybe.. But it got nerf because pro stage.I never saw good azir in solo que.Even in diamond.
MamaDuck (EUW)
: Why don't people play ADC's in midlane?
Adc mid lol. You got lucky if you won that game.Adc mid vs {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:7}} .You get deleted.
: Riot doesn't ban players for trolling your games. They are lying to you.
Sad part is most of the people in this forum will say "bad games"LOL. And probably riot even listen to them.Thats the sad reality we have.If you flame people like him instant ban.But he can lose games all day long. And there are bunch of "silvers" that qq about "toxic and bad matchmaking"when the problem is right here.
: I can play the game on every role on a much higher level than you and thus i also have a much better understand of the game than you. Don't tell me to try something when i have perfect knowledge about the subject already and you yourself are clearly lacking in the knowledge department. >But tthere is a huge reason why a lot of high elo supports play bot. Only nautilus and that's not because of tankiness. Ornn is still played top because his laning is absolute garbage as a support, not to mention it delays his item upgrades. I never said tanks aren't fine either and yes, conqueror is the main reason why they aren't being played top, might change next season with changes to conqueror. >Because adc is shit. They totally aren't. And i know that for a fact too.
: Anyone else noticed an increase in toxic behaviour?
People still qq about flaming...seriously.Like there is a huge MUTE BUTTON there when you press TAB. You can even do /muteall at the begin of the game and done.The problem is not flaming because is easy to deal with.MUTE. The problem is inting and people that give up on games.
NaitoEZ (EUW)
: Fall of Shurima: Azir
{{champion:268}} got nerf because pro stage...I doubht we will see him solo que.And its very sad they mostly do nefs based on pro stage.
: You aren't arguing with fact at this point. Stop it. You lost the argument.
First try then talk dude.You make no sense.I will say top op even tho i dont main top. LOGIC.
: >????????Adc get this once.. Only 1 of this. And it's completely enough. >How is this op enough to deal with more then 4 5 items of armor??Use your brain a bit dude.Thats 1 item. Use your own brain. That's 35% total armor penetration. It negates A LOT of armor. You get that as an adc and one of your teammates most likely has {{item:3071}} which is also %-based penetration. That means you already have 2 %-based penetration items that you can utilize which is super powerful. That's way more penetration than what mages get. Also, enemy having 4-5 armor items is not a valid argument because then a mage in your team will absolutely destroy them or you drafted a full ad comp which is not the game's fault and you should lose the game for it. That's just your stupidity and not faulty game design. >While ap gets more then 3 4. This is pure bullshit. There are 3 magic penetration items {{item:3020}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3135}} . That's 2 flat penetration items (basically equal to lethality items) and one %-based penetration item. How is that more than what physical damage champions have? They have {{item:3071}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3814}} . And if you would know how the game actually works, you would understand that many mid laners (i even dare to say most these days) don't build {{item:3020}} anymore but one of the defensive ones {{item:3111}} {{item:3047}} and {{item:3165}} is a trash item in 95% of the games. It's not gold efficient unless the enemy team has something like soraka or vladimir. If you buy it purely for penetration, you have wasted gold and are objectively trash at the game. So that leaves {{item:3135}} as the only solid penetration item and while the %-penetration is higher than on {{item:3036}} , it is actually way less cost efficient. Armor pen is way stronger and more available than magic pen.
Stop talking.Go test it out.And see tanks are more then fine vs adc.The only think that tanks are not viable is because Conqueror. Thats why they are not played top at least.But tthere is a huge reason why a lot of high elo supports play {{champion:111}} {{champion:516}} bot. Because adc is shit.So before talking more nonsense play adc then see it for yourself.Dont talk if you didnt even try.
: whats your point even?
Evry champ in League can get pentakill.Hell with midlaners or toplaner is easier then adc. If you think thats op then all champs in League need nerf. Just because someone gets penta with a champ doesnt mean they deserve nerf or they are overpowered.In high elo that happens a lot too.
: {{item:3071}} from one of the team members +{{item:3035}} upgrade + =bb all that armor.
I never saw adc buyng {{item:3071}} but ok..Still is not even close good enough to deal with so mutch armor.
Rioter Comments
: >full crits so easy to counter I wouldn't say that since full crit literally has the highest dps put of ANY build in the game in the late game. The counter to it is to end the game before the enemy gets to that point. There really isn't any strong build against it outside of ninja tabi and randuin.
{{item:3047}} blocks 12% of the damage from basic atacks.From lets say 300 dmg crit you will do less.I dunno 250..maybe even less. You get {{item:3143}} -20% dmg from crit basic atack.I was against 1 darius i was feed as adc and the guy had this build {{item:3047}} {{item:3071}} .I was doing around 200 dmg to him with this items {{item:3031}} {{item:3085}} {{item:1038}} .You making fun of me??If he was getting more armor it would be even less.
: None of those are good against armor pen outside of lethality. Armor isn't strong against armor penetration...
????????Adc get this once..{{item:3033}} Only 1 of this. How is this op enough to deal with more then 4 5 items of armor??Use your brain a bit dude.Thats 1 item. While ap gets more then 3 4.
: Are they making magic resist usefull next patch?
Maybe because ap champs have a lot of magic penetration.Items dont cost mutch neither and they have a lot of options in their build. While adc can go same items...full crits so easy to counter.Ad assasins full lethality and is not good vs armor. Ap champs have items like this {{item:3135}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3020}} OP.More op {{item:3089}}
: To be honest I find it easier to deal with magic damage dealers than with guys who stack armor pen.
LOL.{{item:3047}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3075}} ….Too many good items against armor pen.
: Really... your gold 4, I’m gold 4 (only played placements this year cause internet issues, so at silver 1). Same elo
Check again. check again tommorow too.
: It’s really ironic. Firstly your low elo as well you can’t pull rank on me Secondly I’ve already told you that I play bot lane... when duoing I play jhin adc and frankly I carry most games, I also play a large amount of support especially when I’m on lose streaks cause I know playing bot is much easier to carry than top. So before you run your mouth maybe listen
Im actually higher elo then you. Now go paly bot prove evryone bot is op.Go then talk man.
SpicyPyke (EUNE)
: I just had pretty intresting team mate on ranked
The worst part is he wont get punished.Even if he inted on porpuse and doing it smart his good to go. Thats how shit the system is.
: everyone who is in bronze is in bronze also the other team
I got pentakill with {{champion:24}} .Nerf op right?.
: > 1 last think buddy.Be honest.Do you even play solo que??Do you even play this game in the first place or you just talk?? Said the person who thinks that their own personal experience actually qualifies for proof. > Bot strong..I guess im pro player then cuz i win against full feed botlane and i can do 1v2 all the %%%%ing time.I guess i should be lcs because i can destroy enemy bot no matter how ahead they actually are. In your last 10 games 7 have been the bot lane that’s ahead winning, 2 of them have been pretty much tied... which means 1/10 games the losing bot lane won... and in that one you where on the losing team. So if your gonna try to pass your experiences as facts make sure you double check your match history first. > Do you even know bot is duo so exp is lower.Because they share it.Top lv 13 youre still lv 10.And how is bot the most iimpactful?????You didnt saw jgl?Even nerfed is still the best role into the game. Experience only matters in the early game... past lane it doesn’t mean much gold is way more important. The fact that bot gets way more gold than anywhere else on the map completely blows their experience disadvantage out of the water. Jungle is only strong cause they feed off other lanes... if any lane is most dominant jungle is the easiest way to influence it. That’s why they are seen as strong no matter the nerfs because all they need to do is gank the strongest lane to influence the game Why do you think junglers have been camping bot for ages now... no where else is worth it... and they can’t play for themselves cause farming the jungle is weak. So actually jungle ain’t that strong, they get less farm, gold and experience than other lanes... where as bot is equal on exp to junglers (as that matters so much to you) and has 2-3x the gold income outside of ganks. > PLAY "BOT".Show evryone bot have too mutch impact.Because evry high elo palyer struggle to do that.Prove them you can do it. Why do you think support is my secondary... or why when I play top as my main role I do a level 6 sion gank bot every game... only way for a top laner to influence the game. And like I said streamers are struggling with adc, not bot lane... please pay attention to the distinction
See youre low elo player you have no idea wtf you sayng. Experience matter early game..really.Buddy go play bot.Duo or whatever you want then come back and tell evryone how "op "bot is.You make no sense at all. "Jungler can gank lanes and have impact because feed other lanes but not so strong".You even think or just say??? Plz do it then talk.Its like asking a midlaner "how op top is" when the guy never played top before. Go play bot and look for yourself.Then come here and talk.
: Nope you got enough already - if you dont wanna see its because you dont wanna see
Neh...i saw bronze players get penta kill to.I guess they pro and played op champs LOL.They still in bronze btw.
: Before you start running your mouth again please actually read. At no point did I say adcs where strong... bot lane is too strong which blogs out all of the other roles. If adcs where ever to get buffed this problem gets even worse than it already is (and it’s already pretty bad). Hell this bot lane situation is bad for bot lane adcs is the centre of attention every game which limits options to champions who don’t die immediately (that’s where kaisa comes in) and supports get a lot less options for roaming plays... it’s bad for mid and jungle cause they loose options for ganks, and top can’t do shit. So let me say it again slowly so you might understand Adcs. Don’t. Need. To. Be. Strong. For. Bot. To. Be. Too. Strong.
1 last think buddy.Be honest.Do you even play solo que??Do you even play this game in the first place or you just talk?? Bot strong..I guess im pro player then cuz i win against full feed botlane and i can do 1v2 all the %%%%ing time.I guess i should be lcs because i can destroy enemy bot no matter how ahead they actually are. Do you even know bot is duo so exp is lower.Because they share it.Top lv 13 youre still lv 10.And how is bot the most iimpactful?????You didnt saw jgl?Even nerfed is still the best role into the game. PLAY "BOT".Show evryone bot have too mutch impact.Because evry high elo palyer struggle to do that.Prove them you can do it. Bot strong LOL.Bot is dead from s8.
: You really didn’t pay attention did you. > meta??I saw full feed kaisa who got deleted by a zed with 3 kills.Dont give me this crap.The only think that kaisa is good is because she can build ap. She can buy hourglass... if you died to a zed because you didn’t buy the biggest counter to assasins and kaisa’s biggets strengh then your just bad. She’s also got the highest pick rate of all bot laners... seen in 40% of games. > And what meta LOL.Where..you watch too mutch lcs buddy. 5th highest pick rate, only behind kaisa, ez (who always has a high pick rate), lucien and Ashe, also 90% presence at worlds. > Bot=support.There is no adc there.Because adc at least in the first 25 mins is useless.I succed to carry games with shity champ like with 3 0 and lose games with with 15 +kills. Then you need to improve at positioning as jhin... not the game’s fault if your not succeeding. Maybe instead of using your own biased opinion you should actually use evidence. > If you dont get a team to help you carry you dont win.And is solo que here not pro stage. Same with every role. It’s almost like it’s a team game and the better team usually wins > And proofs???Check streams check what pro palyers streamers main adc do to climb.They dont even play adc low elo because they know they cant carry solo. Yet they play them high elo. Given your desperation to call me a low elo scrub I’m surprised that your argument is centred entirely on low elo. > I play support myself and i know what i say when i say "adc is garbage". > And because you play dmg support your adc must survive solo.GL WITH THAT.Even hashinshin said it and that guy is main toplane...He said it big that adc until d2 you cant play it.After that you get more lucky with people to care about you. Like I said bot lane... that’s both the farmer and support... your just supporting what I’m saying. > This are proofs and the truth.But people on forum are either too dumb or they cant take reality. Said the person who’s confused both with his own experience. Seriously you just admitted your a support main of course you can’t carry as jhin I did say better bot wins
Are you better then pro palyers????I dont think so.I told you even streamers said adc is trash.Not even main adc and they admited it ...adc is trash. 2.Kaisa got biggest pick rate because AP.NOT ADC.SHES AP.Even with zhonya doesnt mean zed cant kill you..Thats crap. 3.How im confused dude? i told you especially high elo players said adc is trash.Even in lcs you dont Always see adc for a good reason.. Youre a bad player.Deal with it.Play adc and prove the world his op.
: Did I say adc... no I said bot lane. There’s a difference. Bot lane snowballs harder than any other lane simply because there’s more gold there. As there’s a second champion every kill is worth 1.5 kill gold at least, a gank is worth at least 2 kills worth of gold. Killing both enemy laners is worth 3 kills worth of gold, and in a gank it’s worth 4 kills worth of gold (assmuming it’s just the jungler ganking). Where as any other lane a solo kill is worth 1 kill gold. For a solo lane to carry they need to win twice as hard as the bot lane, a few mistakes leading to a won lane bot lane would need a person playing really badly and feeding top lane. This isn’t taking into account tower plates which is easier to get in the bot lane as there’s more players, and dragon control, or that two players focusing one means that kills are easier bot lane. It doesn’t matter if adcs are strong or unviable, or if the person farming bot lane is even an adc... the fact that bot lane gets such a large advantage so easily makes it so that they have the largest influence on the game. This goes all the way up to pro play, notice how most games at worlds was won or lost in the bot lane... or how in most of your games the bot lane gets camped, or why adc feels so bad to play because killing you removes most of a gold advantage It’s why xayah and Kaisa are so big in the meta, their defensive tool is too valuable in the current meta. And why meta supports are aggressive kill supports, bot lane kills matter too much. Also hiemer has a 1% pick rate bot lane, and yasuo doesn’t even get picked enough to show up on statistic sites... where as the top 14 most picked bot laners are all adcs (hiemer is number 15 on that list). Maybe look at your own proof before trying to ask for mine
I dunno if you troll or maybe really really low elo you have no idea wtf you talking about. {{champion:498}} {{champion:145}} meta??I saw full feed kaisa who got deleted by a zed with 3 kills.Dont give me this crap.The only think that kaisa is good is because she can build ap. And {{champion:498}} what meta LOL.Where..you watch too mutch lcs buddy. Bot=support.There is no adc there.Because adc at least in the first 25 mins is useless.I succed to carry games with shity champ like {{champion:41}} with 3 0 and lose games with {{champion:202}} with 15 +kills. If you dont get a team to help you carry you dont win.And is solo que here not pro stage. And proofs???Check streams check what pro palyers streamers main adc do to climb.They dont even play adc low elo because they know they cant carry solo. I play support myself and i know what i say when i say "adc is garbage". And because you play dmg support your adc must survive solo.GL WITH THAT.Even hashinshin said it and that guy is main toplane...He said it big that adc until d2 you cant play it.After that you get more lucky with people to care about you. This are proofs and the truth.But people on forum are either too dumb or they cant take reality.
: https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4253428200/201713713?tab=overview Note the pentakill at 17th minute
1 lucky game...so if {{champion:164}} gets penta kill in 10 mins shes op broken? Bring me games bring me proofs.Even pro palyer said adc is trash.
: And yet bot lane still has more influence over the game than anybody else... which makes everyone’s experience suck including the adc.
Really??Where???Show me.Cuz last time i checked from s8 adc became pretty useless.Thats why i still see bot instead of adc {{champion:157}} or {{champion:74}} . Especially in high elo.I played adc too and even over feed didnt have impact into the game.While i played mid jgl or top i could carry games way more easy. So where is this "high botlane influence".LOW ELO??
Hanya (EUNE)
: Dou partner
Add me we can try some games.
: ADC is the worst role ever
Adc is team reliant right now.More then ever.So ye adc is not the best to carry games anymore.
: For the love of Ahri, please do not stay idly by your tower waiting for the minions to arrive.
Keyane (EUW)
: Let me join the whining for a new Skin train. My dream is a new Kalista Skin since she only has 2 (SKT doesnt count since she wouldnt have it without the worlds) Id love a new Skin for her and im still heartbroken she got nerfed to death.
She is pretty bad..no one plays her.Thats why no skin. But dw like they did to {{champion:92}} She got buff she got skin.Even tho she didnt deserve no buff at all. Cash first boy.
: i mean ... it doesent seem good ... with the announced changes to map and some stuff ... the new champ literaly gives akali shroud to whole team ... aaand it moves with her too ... sounds fun right ? global ult that does both DMG and shield allies ? oh and i forgot to mention it looks like its almost 3 lanes fat ... doubt they will do anything with matchmaking - the last time they tried it ended in this disaster so ... im not even sure i want them to try honestly im just waiting for that next game that i play for years along all the other games (like league is now, dota, CS and stuff way before) its been to long ... league is just not for me anymore i guess
: nah sadly i still play ... i have too much free time else i would play like 1-2 games a week at most ... the game balance is pretty bad ... the matchmaking is atrocious ... the penalty system makes no sense whatsoever (outside of being extremely easy to execute - after all they just have a bot that bans everything around chat but nothing else) ... the client is buggy af ... they cant even connect you into game properly (getting stuck in loading screen, bugsplats, etc) ...not to mention the milking (monetization is trough the roof lately) dont forget to mention that you have 0 impact on your rank (cant influence if you climb or not) ... there are literaly people with negative win ratios climbing multiple divisions (just take this dude https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=DJ+Sona+SLO - last season G4, has 49% win ratio this season ... but is in plat 2 ... no you cant explain that to me thats just epic failure of matchmaking and ranked system ... how does player thats running it down every other game to the point it impacts his win ratio into negative numbers climb 6 divisions ...?
I agree.S9 is nonsense.And riot still doing shit about it.IF s10 will be the same or worst %%%% this shit.
: Anyone else just can't bring themselves to play ranked(cancer)?
Honestly i started my 10 game to get my elo and boom.Like i play so well but i lose games.Cant get no impact.Where are those fools who say "you skilled you climb"?I got a hecarim who ragequited because he died in enemy jgl and he ragequit and flame for no reason. Then another game where my midlane dies once...and comes with the excuse "HAHAHA trash jgl no gank mid i afk". Where the %%%% is the skills here.I cant lol.All my loses where because someone afk or simply tilted af for no reason.And i cant kill all of them solo to win the game.You get no %%%%ing impact anymore. League have changed and honestly i dont see this "skills" where supposed to be.Its a clown fiesta.You either get Amazing champs and get lucky early or %%%% off with your skills.
: i can tell, people are downvoting without any context not even a single solid argument as to why im wrong : / i kinda feel like people downvote only because i asked to do the opposite
Fanboys man.Beside forum is mostly full of silvers gold players so they have no idea wtf they talking about. For them {{champion:238}} and adc are still broken.90% of community is in low elo so yeh..
: please riot
{{champion:41}} is not in the best spot i agree.But youre in the wrong spot buddy.In forum youll find most bad players that have no idea wtf they talking about.
Covfefe (EUNE)
: Hello, Marcus here :) What I wrote above IS TRUE though. I logged in here to prove that. Check the op.gg of this account, I went from bronze 3 to D4 within 120 games. I am Diamond on 3 accounts and have without hassle done so for the past 3 seasons. How so? By averagely being better than my opponents in most aspects of the game. I don't get stuck in P4, not even once, and I Highly doubt diamond streamers get stuck in silver on fresh accs. On fresh accounts you get 38-ish lp per win and lose roughly 6, assuming you win at least 7-8 of your initial 10 games. if you have any other questions, feel free to ask them. I have no clue how to post a picture but here goes: https://i.gyazo.com/a61146747cf226eb06d66862f04da3e4.png
Not evryone but most people from silver even bronze got to plat+this season. I saw plenty of them.Even silvers into master+Not because skills but because they got lucky or they abused some busted champ as usual. Thats not skills.Right now skills is like the lowest that you need.Whats important now is mostly champs and the luck to not get the afk tilted player.
gwzw2lex2 (EUNE)
: Gangplank's Q
Thats the only think he actually have.Without that his more then useless.
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