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: Legacy Vault opening
The thing is, there are a lot of skins, like Blacksmith Poppy, that don't belong to any of these "festive" events, so the only chance of getting them, excluding hextech chests from the equation, is via Legacy Vault re-openings... Would be nice if this were seen by a Rioter, to know something for sure, or at least whether or not they'll even open the Legacy Vault this year...
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: maybe https://wol.gg/ ? but it only counts the time you actually were ingame though.
Not even that... it shows way too little hours... Maybe they didn't count the games from the first few seasons. Oh well, such is life.
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: But he lacks utility, he lacks cc, he is weak to kiting, he is immobile, he has no range, he has no reliable defensive tools... So he might be as tanky stats wise he has none of the tools that a tank should have, thus he is a terrible tank cause he can't peel nor can he initiate/lockdown.
By having no range, you mean he's melee I suppose... Because he has all the range he needs with his Rupture(950 range) and arguably his Silence + his spikes that got 500 range if I recall right... Also, what better peel for your teammates than a monster that knocks you up (after a delay yeah) and instantly silences any attacker that dares to come too close... After this combo, the assassin that dared to dive your adc will get ultied, and there goes 1k true damage (with all the health and AP, it will be way over 1k dmg) off the assassin's health (he should be dead by now). "he lacks cc" - silence + ranged knockup "he has no range" - this gotta be Poppy, cause Cho Gath has plenty of it. "he has no reliable defensive tools" - silence + knockup + tons of damage. Poppy is arguably weak to kiting as well, after all those range nerfs. They should've also nerfed her W movement speed too, just to be sure she's dead for good kappa. There's no worse feeling playing as Poppy than not being able to reach that damn ADC piercing right through your 500 armor and 3k health, after anyone around you died cause all you could've done was burn your CDs to protect your ADC. After those first 3 seconds, everyone ignores you like the mosquito you are (you deal no damage) and focuses on destroying your teammates 1 by 1. At least these are some of my experiences while playing with Poppy.
: I always prefered one shotting enemies with AD jungle poppy. Now with duskblade its insane lol.
First of all, jungle poppy is not viable since long ago. If you're 1shotting ADCs in normal games and still manage to win teamfights running damage builds, this doesn't mean poppy is decent.
: > Cho gath that isn't a tank and is designed to deal damage" laughs in 7k HP while 1-shotting your adc it even rhymes lol. The definition of a tank is a high durability champion who deals low amounts of damage mid to late game... the fact that cho'gath is designed to one shot people makes him not a tank, but instead a fighter... a high durability champion who deals high amounts of damage mid to late game. > This is the problem. Such champions do poppy's job 100 times better - they've got tank stats, OK engages, and NICE damage. Compared to these ones, poppy is just a peel bot for her ADC. If you dive their backlines -wow, gj, you can come back to deff your carry cause you do no damage anyway. While Cho gath can literally walk towards you, rupture and silence you, and then nom-nom your adc. Except poppy's job isn't what these guys have for a job. There are two different play styles for tanks... vanguard and warden. The tanks you've mentioned are all vanguards, their job is to dive the enemy back line and lock down the enemy team... poppy is a warden, she doesn't do much want to dive the enemy team but instead peel for her adc, same as a shen... his strength comes from keeping his adc safe not locking down the enemy team. So poppy is fine, she is performing her job perfectly well... she just can't do someone else's job like diving or killing better than the champions who are meant to (which is the problem with galio atm, he is also. A warden but is out of line). > My point is, it's a lot harder for poppy to do her tank job, compared to other tanks. Nerfing everything about her (range, base dmg, scaling, passive) simply gutted her in my opinion. This is why you won't see a poppy in tens of games. She's simply not worth it when all the other tanks are around here in their current state. That's just not true... there are 19 tanks in the game, there are only 5 who are outperforming her... That's no where near her being at the bottom of the litter, she is actually up there in terms of tank viability, she just gets out performed by the champions who are getting nerfed by riot currently.
My point was that, even though cho is not a tank (cause you say it deals too much dmg for him to be considered a tank), surprisingly, he possesses the same level of tankiness (and arguably the peel) that some tanks have, while also dishing out tons of damage. So that, imo, makes cho(and many others) a better tank, simply because it feels like a tank that actually also deals high amounts of damage.
: > [{quoted}](name=TUNET,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AXA3XEph,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-08-07T09:00:37.492+0000) > > "Cho gath that isn't a tank and is designed to deal damage" *laughs in 7k HP while 1-shotting your adc* it even rhymes lol. > Cue ADC moving to the spot and standing still while autoattacking, get oneshotted by champ X that simply moves and ult him, and ADC flaming his team because, of course, "no peel". Bonus points is that ADC if {{champion:67}} and is 1 vs 5 cause, of course, everyone knows that {{champion:67}} is broken and can 1 vs 5 at any time. Cue that ADC coming on the boards whining that "champ X is OP". /thread
I actually am a tank player. Not at all like the adc you just described. I simply found poppy to be harder to do well with compared to other tanks.
: So she is being outperformed by 5 tanks who can easily be considered out of line and in need of nerfs, and cho'gath who isn't a tank and is designed to deal damage. That isn't a good basis for buffs, she might not be as strong as these guys but she isn't struggling by any means, she is quite strong... it is much better to leave her be for now.
"Cho gath that isn't a tank and is designed to deal damage" *laughs in 7k HP while 1-shotting your adc* it even rhymes lol. This is the problem. Such champions do poppy's job 100 times better - they've got tank stats, OK engages, and NICE damage. Compared to these ones, poppy is just a peel bot for her ADC. If you dive their backlines -wow, gj, you can come back to deff your carry cause you do no damage anyway. While Cho gath can literally walk towards you, rupture and silence you, and then nom-nom your adc. Poppy's main diving tool has 425 range, and is not even a guaranteed stun. If the enemies are not completely unaware of your skillset and presence, there's no way you'll initiate with her E unless your using flash and even then, the positioning is crucial. My point is, it's a lot harder for poppy to do her tank job, compared to other tanks. Nerfing everything about her (range, base dmg, scaling, passive) simply gutted her in my opinion. This is why you won't see a poppy in tens of games. She's simply not worth it when all the other tanks are around here in their current state.
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: Poppy is outclassed by the majority of the tanks in the game
Her win rate dropped a lot it seems, now being a whopping 48.6%. Also, the KDA and damage graphs look so bad. The other tanks are tankier and deal more damage with no damage items than Poppy. I think all the past nerfs completely gutted her. I mean, if she deals so much damage as some others say, why is she so rarely picked?
: I think she's really strong right now. Assassins are everywhere and ADCs have a life span of half a second during Teamfights. Poppy is one of the few who ca n stop the 3 assasins on their team from leaping over everyone else. Not to mention that she can pretty much 1v1 any champion in the game.
"Not to mention that she can pretty much 1v1 any champion in the game" This means I'm doing something really wrong, because I cannot 1v1 even the tankier supports reliably (if we happen to be the last ones standing after a team fight of course). But I'm here to learn. Can you tell me the items you usually use for Poppy? I mean, do you go full tank or a mix of tanky stats and damage? Some item names would help. Thank you!
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: [[ To all the Blackfrost Anivia owners ]] - Is the skin still bugged?
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