Serpentik (EUNE)
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: > [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T19:47:56.185+0000) > > Crit ADC's are supposed to carry late... Some AD Carrys have different power curve, it does not mean they need to be reworked. What's the sum of thesome ADCs? ALL ADCs carry late game besides kalista and plus kalista's build is crit Lol
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T20:36:24.291+0000) > > Kalista build is crit?You barely build attack damage on kalista, its all about attackspeed for rend LOL. I'm starting to get the feeling that you do not really understand adc. Lol I'm done arguing with you. Not only don't u know the build of kalista but you still think that you are right? And doubt me about it, saying I don't know how to ADC? LOL. Go away man, find something else to do and waste your useless time there.
: > [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T19:47:56.185+0000) > > Crit ADC's are supposed to carry late... Some AD Carrys have different power curve, it does not mean they need to be reworked. What's the sum of thesome ADCs? ALL ADCs carry late game besides kalista and plus kalista's build is crit Lol
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T20:36:24.291+0000) > > Kalista build is crit?You barely build attack damage on kalista, its all about attackspeed for rend LOL. I'm starting to get the feeling that you do not really understand adc. http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/7-13-kalista-adc-in-depth-death-to-all-betrayers-447558 That phantom dancer and runaan's seems sexy there doesnt it? although it was supposed to be including other items, this guide should be all i need to show you that in order to debate with some1 u must be prepared AND that kalista does build crit. :) and 1 more thing, KALISTA IS THE ONLY ADC THAT DOESNT CARRY LATE GAME... WHAT ARE THOSE 'OTHER ADCS' WITH 'OTHER' POWER CURVES
Possible (EUW)
: Crit ADC's are supposed to carry late... Some AD Carrys have different power curve, it does not mean they need to be reworked.
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T19:47:56.185+0000) > > Crit ADC's are supposed to carry late... Some AD Carrys have different power curve, it does not mean they need to be reworked. What's the sum of thesome ADCs? ALL ADCs carry late game besides kalista and plus kalista's build is crit Lol
Possible (EUW)
: So draven and lucian should get reworks as well? A different power curve does not mean you don't fit a certain role.
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T09:40:28.392+0000) > > So draven and lucian should get reworks as well? A different power curve does not mean you don't fit a certain role. Yes, but kalista doesn't fit in what all ADCs are supposed to be the best at: late game. Plus, draven and Lucian are some of the strongest ADCs this season lol, unlike kalista
Possible (EUW)
: Kalista is sitting at a 49.93% winrate and ocasionally sees play in lcs this(and last) split. I'm not trying to make it sound bad. I'm just saying that it will change the way Kalista feels and change the identity of the champion.
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T14:27:36.606+0000) > > Kalista is sitting at a 49.93% winrate and ocasionally sees play in lcs this(and last) split. I'm not trying to make it sound bad. I'm just saying that it will change the way Kalista feels and change the identity of the champion. Heh, then how about this: Ryze is currently the champion with the worst winnrate, and he's being played by many lcs players. Im not saying that kalista is bad; im saying that kalista is not good enough to fit as an adc role. She is completely the opposite of being an adc (instead of strong late and terrible early she is strong early and bad late)
: > [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T12:10:52.041+0000) > > Kalista is supossed to be a high attack speed adc. Adding a reload mechanic to it will destroy the fun. Why would you even change kalista, she is in a balanced state atm. Tbh the only ability that might need a rework is her W since its so boring and so bugged. Hey, this is just my opinion, you don't have to make it sound bad. Kalista isnt stable at all, I can barely see a kalista in my game and most of the times the game ends up being a loss for a very simple reason: She falls off late game. Why? Useless ultimate and not enough scaling. Her w can actually be useful since your jg will have awareness if he is being invaded or it can be used for more creative reason such as tanking baron. Although kalista is really fun going attack speed, its not working. Reworks like this are not unique, take fizz's rework as a good example. Even urgot is getting a rework :/ This champ needs a rework. Imagine having a 50% chance to one shot everybody instead of kalistas's current ultimate;it could win teamfights and would bring her back to the meta.
> [{quoted}](name=TheGuyYouWant,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T12:57:11.747+0000) > > Hey, this is just my opinion, you don't have to make it sound bad. Kalista isnt stable at all, I can barely see a kalista in my game and most of the times the game ends up being a loss for a very simple reason: She falls off late game. Why? Useless ultimate and not enough scaling. Her w can actually be useful since your jg will have awareness if he is being invaded or it can be used for more creative reason such as tanking baron. Although kalista is really fun going attack speed, its not working. Reworks like this are not unique, take fizz's rework as a good example. Even urgot is getting a rework :/ This champ needs a rework. Imagine having a 50% chance to one shot everybody instead of kalistas's current ultimate;it could win teamfights and would bring her back to the meta. And about that reload mechanic, kalista could go flat and + crit or if you really want to go attack speed, make a feature which will set the timer of her recharge to be faster if you have a specific percentage of attack speed (reload lowered from 10 Secs to 2 seconds at 2.5 attack speed){{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Possible (EUW)
: Kalista is supossed to be a high attack speed adc. Adding a reload mechanic to it will destroy the fun. Why would you even change kalista, she is in a balanced state atm. Tbh the only ability that might need a rework is her W since its so boring and so bugged.
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T12:10:52.041+0000) > > Kalista is supossed to be a high attack speed adc. Adding a reload mechanic to it will destroy the fun. Why would you even change kalista, she is in a balanced state atm. Tbh the only ability that might need a rework is her W since its so boring and so bugged. Hey, this is just my opinion, you don't have to make it sound bad. Kalista isnt stable at all, I can barely see a kalista in my game and most of the times the game ends up being a loss for a very simple reason: She falls off late game. Why? Useless ultimate and not enough scaling. Her w can actually be useful since your jg will have awareness if he is being invaded or it can be used for more creative reason such as tanking baron. Although kalista is really fun going attack speed, its not working. Reworks like this are not unique, take fizz's rework as a good example. Even urgot is getting a rework :/ This champ needs a rework. Imagine having a 50% chance to one shot everybody instead of kalistas's current ultimate;it could win teamfights and would bring her back to the meta.
Joze Panj (EUNE)
: I think he pointed out at lore, not at play style
> [{quoted}](name=Joze Panj,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T08:05:25.789+0000) > > I think he pointed out at lore, not at play style Im probs not accurate enough... lemme tell u an example of a second passive: Jhin's normal passive is that he has 4 shots till he has to realod to AA again, but he also has another passive, that every time her crits he gets movement speed. Thats what I meant in the text :P{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
Nakoruru (EUNE)
: _"We will remember your loyalty."_
> [{quoted}](name=Nakoruru,realm=EUNE,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-12T06:32:59.053+0000) > > _"We will remember your loyalty."_ {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
Possible (EUW)
: That won't even be kalista anymore. Changing the passive is changing kalista her entire identity.
> [{quoted}](name=Possible,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=5isAXUBo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-12T06:30:25.247+0000) > > That won't even be kalista anymore. Changing the passive is changing kalista her entire identity. Well, that wont change her a lot. She will still have the feel that you are one or even the adc with the highest mobility in the game, aktough it will be a little harder to kite since you only got 3 autos, its a balance that will make kalista's ult useful in late game, make her a high damage adc, and basically make her strong late game. It will also be more satisfying playing her, hitting a crit with your ult and instakilling non tanks. Feels good :P Im not changing her passive, im adding her a second one, just like rengar or jhin :P
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