Leto GT (EUW)
: In case you didn't know, junglers don't usually help losing lane rather you try to feed even more your winning lanes. That's what top elo junglers will tell you and that's common knowledge. With those changes to shutdown there's no more incentive to at least consider the possibility. Warding is different, i'm not talking about that.
Yeah, lets get urgot fed and watch him zone your jax out of farm so badly your jax has 19 CS at 20 minutes. It happens. That way you kill your laners, why not maximize everybody's potentioal and buffing yourself too with the shutdown gold. Its not just the 'gank winning lanes'. That's just so dumb, some champions can abuse laners so hard. Why not atleast have some pressure to make the enemy laner not over extend and let your laner farm atleast. Don't go for kills, just give your mate a breath for gods sake..
Leto GT (EUW)
: As a jungler, I do not have any interest anymore in helping hard losing lanes. (Shutdown changes).
Tho jungle pressure can lose your teammates the lane. Atleast try to wipe out the enemy's vision and make them think you are there. So they go slow on your teammates. Don't give up on your teammate and ruin his game because of shutdown gold. You are the most impactful role in the game, are you just gonna sit down and watch your team collapse? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Rockified (EUNE)
: About the jungle changes in 8.10
Oh great, will rengar finally stop doing lewd things to me? {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: Lmao. I only watch plat+ data. Go play jax and irelia, someone can just lock singed and mundo and ruin your game. Irelia not being used properly? Faker plays singed vs irelia midlaners in challenger korea. He doesnt lose. Mundo #1 jungler #2 toplaner. Tanks are gone yeah Kappa. You are the one who should wake up.
Er..Why is everybody making singed feel like old fiora. Just ban him.
: New champions I would like to see in the future based on Regions
{{sticker:sg-janna}} WE HAVE ENOUGH YORDLES..
Rioter Comments
: And that was a very unskilled Camille, I think. Full tank build or what?
With conqueror and trinity force I can 1 shot the adc. I don't need more damge I need to tank for the team.. Its not like that matters anyway.
: i'm just saying the OS adc's... who even talks about scaling? Riot just keeps increasing dammage while reducing tankyness. I'm just waiting until they let an adc OS my 10k hp cho'gath
You said tanks are weak, when you pick a carry top. Tanks will beat you. I guess you meant a bruiser by carry. What are you trying to say? The meta is pretty confusing right now I get it. But bruisers can butcher tanks now. Urgot cant win a lane anymore aginst irelia. Just think about that,
Rioter Comments
: Top 10 toplaners. 6(six) are tanks. 1(one) conqueror user(darius). 1(one) bruiser(camille and she uses arcane comet). Pick a carry laner? Wp enemy has just locked in singed/mundo/malphite/meowkai and you lose.
> [{quoted}](name=M4dimir Putin,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kLzyNVyj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-15T13:21:04.918+0000) > > Top 10 toplaners. 6(six) are tanks. 1(one) conqueror user(darius). 1(one) bruiser(camille and she uses arcane comet). Pick a carry laner? Wp enemy has just locked in singed/mundo/malphite/meowkai and you lose. Are you serious bro. Irelia is overpowered. People don't use her correctly. Jax/etc.. These guys will win games. Conqueror broke the tank meta just watch the higher elo. The only tanks are being used are Ornn/Sion and the teamfight changers. Not the raw damage broken tanks like malphite/maokai/poppy. Wake up and embrace the bruisers. Tanks are out.
: ohh yhea its not like they can't OS adc / mids at all now {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=WhyDoYouDie,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kLzyNVyj,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-05-15T10:39:23.770+0000) > > ohh yhea its not like they can't OS adc / mids at all now {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Are you trying to tell me Camille/irelia/tryndamere cant outscale an adc? or a midlaner? Have you seen a full build irelia/Camille?
: well don't put it like that, there are toplaners that are mage to, swain, ekko, rumble.. besides they don't make changes to specific roles but to champions. Riot is just all in for assasin / burst this season, tanks are sort of useless atm.
> [{quoted}](name=WhyDoYouDie,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kLzyNVyj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-15T10:26:42.005+0000) > > well don't put it like that, there are toplaners that are mage to, swain, ekko, rumble.. > besides they don't make changes to specific roles but to champions. Riot is just all in for assasin / burst this season, tanks are sort of useless atm. Cough, cough.. Cough.. BRUISERS. Cough.. Camille/Irelia etc...
Jedcore (EUW)
: They should remove top lane role permanently from game
Lets not forget conqueror.. Who we all know is used by mages.. Demolish? Not for splitpushers top? Bruisers update? Its not like we are having the biggest change in toplane ever. Its not like they remade irelia. Or swain.. Who are both 100% not toplaners. Jesus Christ.. Definetly.. 100%. Toplane got no updates. None... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Please reconsider adding Pyke to the game.
The champion isn't even out. Jeez.. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: hmm but hes so easy to counter when i play vel koz i destroy him so hard he crawls back up into the womb he once came from but then again a champion that really makes the mouse break is {{champion:420}} that thing is cancer
Check my OP.GG I just beat the hell out of illaoi in-lane. Trust me.. a good Vladimir.. Has no counter.. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: It’s why he is only a threat at very high elos... it’s a lot easier to deal with a singed who loses his cool. Like with his W combined with rylies and his passive he shouldn’t ever need to flip a Camille before her ult as he has enough speed and slows to get away, and if that forces her ult then she has no chance for a kill. The match up is litterally a game of chicken... if Camille ults too soon singed has an easy time getting away, if singed uses his flip too soon he is dead... that’s why singed low elo is rather easy to deal with, a lot of them panic and it gets them killed. But it’s enough to mess Camille up royally... he is one of the few champions who can get close to a Camille, clear a wave and get out thanks to his Q... it makes split pushing against a good singed tricky to do, and as that’s the main reason you pick Camille you do have an easier time than most... so long as your smart.
Well, on my elo. Singed cant do much. Thank god,
Quimoth (EUW)
: Riven, just broken or...
Yeah, if you are dumb enough to feed someone that can so easily mess up with a champion like riven, expect her 1 shotting the entire team. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Quimoth (EUW)
: Because you can abuse this. It might be an option for solo/duo, definetly easy to abuse in flex though.
Abuse able in Flex Que, which none plays anyway. Tho this would be really helpful. Because for god knows why, all my promos have afk people.
GreyfellD (EUW)
: I'd rather kill myself then play edgelord "I'm not a vampire" {{champion:8}}
God damn he is so broken if used right, don't main him. Maybe swain.
GreyfellD (EUW)
: Spend 10 minutes playing Lissandra...
Leblanc can delete a team with spellbinder/Syndra/etc.. Yeah lisa is very bad now, and the mentioned slightly reworking her. But mages in general with the doran's ring buff are having a blast.. Taliyah is now a machine gun. Do you want more examples? If you want a tanky mage go for Swain, also Vladimir. Also why toplane? With these bruiser buffs people avoid going top with tanky champs.
: All the information you can give me about vlad!
I have a good tip. DONT. PLEASE, GOD DAMNIT! I WANT TO LANE WITHOUT BREAKING A MOUSE. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Mr Rito says: "Win by the Team lose by the Team"^^
Mr Rito is mean. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
: veigars E is like Camiles ult but then its aow and it stuns for 2. 5 seconds if u touch the walls and it has a lower cooldown . but u can flash or teleport or blink out of his E unlike camiles R . and u can knock camile out of his R to end the cage
Good luck knocking a Camille back when she has trinity force and focusing you. Especially if you have 70% HP. You are dead. Execuse me, I'm gonna laugh at you mid-laners and enjoy my bruisers buff. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Rioter Comments
HSBunny (EUW)
: Keep a good Mentality in SoloQ
Ahahha, I lost my promos to silver 1. I got so tilted because I had two afk people. I deranked to silver 5 because of my mentality. Now I'm slowly ranking back up. {{sticker:sg-janna}} Tho I'd love to add. As long as you see yourself doing good in a match. Like always winning lane, always doing your thing right and its your team that's failing you. Eventually you will rank up. Just try to roam a bit, if its the elohell for you. also. BAN TEEMO GODDAMNIT RIOT! {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
: But a good singed won’t panic and flip you with your E if he knows you have ult up... he also can already stop your E with a well placed W (placing it where the hooks will hit the wall will prevent you from actually using the second part)... so he very much has a lot of ways to stop you from pinning him down
But with good kiting and items, he will forcefully flip me from the damage. Then he made the biggest mistake of his life. Thank god every singed I face gets demolished because they are so inpatient in this elo, seems like singed really is a terrifying pick.
: Twitch bot is not an issue.There are many supports/adc which can counter him early .Now twitch jungle...he is a pain .There are many players who climb the ladder by playing him as jungle . If riot could make him a terrible jungler this would be great for me but as an adc at bot lane he is balanced.I can predict based on the enemy support movements if twitch is near or not but if he is playing jungle it's way more difficult.
Good luck predicting him in a teamfight, whats the counterplay to that?
: He can just flip her out of the ult and run away.... he is very good at disengaging vs champions who rely on hard engage like Camille
Tho what id do is id make him flip me when I engage with my E then id w to slow him and then ULT him. With good items at mid-game that should kill him for sure.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Twitch is broken if you allow him to be, I think that's the general theme of most champions Honestly you just have to zone on him, if you don't kill him early you will lose the teamfight I don't know anything about the matchup because I'm a JG player but I just sperg out and all in twitch usually lol
The problem is lets say they have a katarina and they all engage in teamfight, your team really really needs you. Lets say you are rengo, you either wait for the entire team to die and kill twitch. Or jump in and die by twitch. Its seriously that dumb.
: Riot forgot too add counterplay in leblanc's kit She has hardcore burst damage at lv 3 if u hit ur combo then u always get like 70% of theire health bar off 90% with ignite
'No counter play' *laughs in Camille's ult* {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Twitch has always been that It's just Nasus isn't good anymore due to item changes really, he'll be rather irrelevant throughout the entire game even if it hits late because of the amount of mobility within the game
Tho I wouldn't call twitch 'broken' but god damn is he frustrating to deal with. Any ideas on how to do that?
: Hes permabanned in high elo because he counters camille and irelia.
Cant say that about Camille, cant she just ult and destroy him?
Rioter Comments
: So I still think that he is OP and from now on Im just gonna main him. End of discussion.
Why not banning him? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: Dont start with Pantheon... Hes is worse than any type of champion.
With the irelia rework, I lost 0 lanes against him by playing passive and catching him off guard and waiting him to make dumb mistakes, in my elo they make a lot. Toplane is frustrating because of how many champs it has. Tanks/Bruisers/Assaisns/ even carries actually. Quinn,Vayne. And there are people like Gnar/Teemo. So if you cant handle any of those, jungle has a lot of champs that can go top. In other words, try jungling. Trust me an illaoi made me once break a mouse. Then I thought to myself, 'ykno what. I will lose LP. But at least I will learn.' Form bronze 2 to silver 4 in 7 hours. With kled. Tryndamere is another example, except a tryndamere that you let lane freely will win them the game. Unlike garen a good tryndamere will win the game. So be careful of those. Also, its not hard to ban this one champion that always and I mean always beat you, doesn't matter if its an outplay or if the champ is annoyingly broken. *cough* yasuo. I ban him every game and just win lanes, if I cant I do one TP gank and get back to the game 2-3 times more powerful. If the enemy harasser see's you farming safely he will make more mistakes, if you play irelia you will be able to push those as long as you have your powerspike item. Which is sheen for Camille, irelia too. Once you get that start being more aggressive. Also do what I do. BAN YASUO. I know its a dumb meme, but in my team yasuo is a moron. In the enemy team he is a god. I don't like laning against him, either fighting him. Doesn't matter if in a teamfight or not. I just get rid of him easily. You will lose games but try to learn from them, and remember. You can play brusiers and win top. Thanks to conqueror. That's already a step forward. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: feelsbadman karma is the worst support right now
Buddy.. Karma is considered to be overloaded right now, are you sure she is bad? I mean it snot hard to R+Q and get the enemy ADC to 200 HP at level 3. Or just go full ap karma and 1 shot an entire team. Are you serious? Karma out of all supports needs a buff? Yeah, lets buff brand too so all ADC mains rage quit. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
x710 (EUNE)
: How to get Championship Zed
Why do you play zed god damnit~! {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Nerf Garen.
Trust me buddy, you think he is broken because its very difficult to miss up with his kit. I always beat him in lane, but he always catches my teammates off guard in teamfights and ults them. You cant stop that if that's your main problem with him , I think everybody knows how to deal with garen toplane if you main top actually. In teamfights do what I do if you are a bruiser main. Focus their carries and ignore him. You play Camille? Use your first Q flash ult then Q again for the ADC's 80% of his HP. then do the E+Auto with the trinity buff. Irelia? Flash e q ult q q then auto the adc or whoever is carrying and win your team the game. Garen can be dealt with if a good support is there to just slow/kite/stun/cc him. I know his W is dumb, his burst is insane with is ult. But in reality, he is a game knowledge champ. Try to be unpredictable. >Flash combos If you think garen is annoying in lane, have you ever laned against pantheon or teemo? {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Renekton
Why do you have a phantom dancer on renekton, maybe the Death dance I can understand. You know bruiser/tanky items would make you a terrifying beast in teamfights? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} also WHY THE HELL DO YOU MAIN RENEKTON GOD DAMNIT! {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: Mains are overrated. Even Riot openly stated that the players who can reach a certain rating while playing all roles are better than any mains in that same rating. If you want a main, you'll find it. But you're not obliged to get one.
Ehh, I thought I was the only one with no main role.
: ***
I played every champ In-game buddy, the people I mentioned is who I excel at at the lanes I listed.
Rioter Comments
: she is karma the embodiment of peace and the soul of ionia.{{summoner:13}}
also she make me want to suicide when she go full ap then get a quadra kill at the baron because she pressed R+Q.
: Sound slike you're doing things right, you just need practise on actual ganking. all you have to do is keep at it or take a break and try out jungle to get a better feel for when it's the right time to gank.
Thanks mate! Since I can finally lane vs a tank thanks to conqueror. I'll improve everything I could. Irelia/Camile will finally rise again! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
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: Things we all do
That karma emote really makes this ghandi speech perfect.
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Kioshek (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WajdyFazza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PB4F5wAL,comment-id=000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-12T10:02:34.194+0000) > > So i'll just treat him like he's pantheon. Farm safely that he cant even trade, wait for a gank and try to pick a kiting adc like Kalista or Kaisa. Is that It? Well I don't know about Panth, bc I am not toplaner. But basically. You just have to be carefull and that's it. Bc if he can't hit his E or W to stun you with Q he will be useless. Obviously if you don't shut him down so much he will fall behind, he will still be usefull in teamfight, bc he has so much AoE dmg. But for the lane, just don't let him hit the abbilities. ^^ I don't want to say I am pro or what ever, but these would be my advice with playing against Brand. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Thanks mate, it'll help ig. <3
Kioshek (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WajdyFazza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PB4F5wAL,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-12T09:44:22.103+0000) > > Why do you all make it seem like hes garbage, give me a counter play to him and I will gladly main that. I am not saying he is garbage. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} I am saying, that if he WOULD be bad, noone would play him. Just read it correctly next time please. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} And counter play? Easy... don't stand near minions with his blaze. Be aware, that he WANTS to poke you, so if you are taking CS he will try to use W or E on you and then Q if he wants to engage in fight. For his Q stand behind minions or just go on the other side of the lane. And... BUY magic resist items. Even tho he is supports you have to build some items to stay safe. Plus.. if he manage to hit you with 3 abilities and you get the fire circle... PLEASE for the love of God... go away from your allys or you will damage them! {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
So i'll just treat him like he's pantheon. Farm safely that he cant even trade, wait for a gank and try to pick a kiting adc that can burst MS to escape his abilities like Kalista or Kaisa. Is that It?
Kioshek (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WajdyFazza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PB4F5wAL,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-12T09:27:50.063+0000) > > Man, he just hurts. A lot. There many mages botlane but he is very very good in botlane, like too good. Well that's why people are taking him there. :D If he would be bad on botlane, noone would play him botlane. :D
Why do you all make it seem like hes garbage, give me a counter play to him and I will gladly main that.
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