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Yasxuo (EUW)
: Best ADC in meta?
Where is my kali? :/ I honestly think she is a very good pick also. I would also suggest draven, he is a monster. We've been playing draven and nami and we're literally destroying every lane in the matches.
: Secondary role should be exclusive for him. It's called Draaaaaaaaaven
> [{quoted}](name=V î,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MNrJXVEY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-26T00:32:11.493+0000) > > Secondary role should be exclusive for him. It's called Draaaaaaaaaven It should be his primary, would be really great to give him a special role just for him.
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: Which ADC should I get?
Since you're new to ADC, i suggest you try some simple adcs like caitlyn, ashe, sivir, lucian, tristana. I would also suggest kogmaw since he is a hypercarry, but you need a strong team to peel for you, also you need to be careful in laning phase since he's immobile, so if you're first pick, never choose him because the enemy will always choose champions to counter you. When you get a bit used to these champs, you might want to try more challenging ones like kalista, draven and vayne. Kalista has her own style, completely another way of playing. As for draven, positioning is everything especially for his axes. For vayne, you need to get through laning phase and focus on farming. Once you get few items, you can delete anyone 1 vs 1 and i mean anyone.
efol00 (EUNE)
: Wha.... I'm sorry but i have to TOTALLY disagree with you (well if you didn't know this, then i don't blame you). When Annie KILLS her target with her Q, she gets all the Mana back from it and the cooldown gets reduced by half. So annie can easily last hit, even under a turret.
> [{quoted}](name=efol00,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=idVnKcEG,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T20:25:59.791+0000) > > Wha.... I'm sorry but i have to TOTALLY disagree with you (well if you didn't know this, then i don't blame you). When Annie KILLS her target with her Q, she gets all the Mana back from it and the cooldown gets reduced by half. So annie can easily last hit, even under a turret. Dude, don't you see the sarcasm? :p
efol00 (EUNE)
: Her Q is not a skillshot (more info about thatuder this comment). She has CC (her passive). Her W is a skillshot but it's almost the same as her Q, really hard to miss. Her E just gives her thornmail wich scales AP. Fair enough. Her ultimate is a skillshot (and Sion at the same time), it's also easy to land and hard to miss.{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=efol00,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=idVnKcEG,comment-id=000a00000001,timestamp=2016-06-19T20:28:58.124+0000) > > Her Q is not a skillshot (more info about thatuder this comment). She has CC (her passive). Her W is a skillshot but it's almost the same as her Q, really hard to miss. Her E just gives her thornmail wich scales AP. Fair enough. Her ultimate is a skillshot (and Sion at the same time), it's also easy to land and hard to miss.{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} I was being sarcastic. Oh gosh.
: Despite that, a good support should be able to peel. Janna/Tahm Kench are Rengo hard counters but you can achieve similar results with Nami/Soraka/Nautilus. The key is never using exhaust on anybody else but Rengo. Still, i have seen the horrors a good/fed Rengo can do. It's unhealthy gameplay but riot won't change that before the assassins overhaul
> [{quoted}](name=Prugar Senpai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j9seGTeN,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T10:00:41.910+0000) > > Despite that, a good support should be able to peel. > Janna/Tahm Kench are Rengo hard counters but you can achieve similar results with Nami/Soraka/Nautilus. The key is never using exhaust on anybody else but Rengo. > > Still, i have seen the horrors a good/fed Rengo can do. > It's unhealthy gameplay but riot won't change that before the assassins overhaul Ye but you need a peel support, i had an engage supp, we were kali/thresh. Ye it's really unhealthy, same thing with khazix and some assassins. I'm started to think riot hates adcs.
: > [{quoted}](name=bulz7,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j9seGTeN,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-06-19T09:38:23.234+0000) > > Exactly, i tried that yesterday. I never left my team, neither my support, but since he was fed i couldn't do anything. I was literally getting deleted in 1 second. It sucks to die so fast and not be able to do anything. I doubt that. You never left your 'team' yet deleted in 1 sec? You are telling me not a single person on your team that you were with put a single pink or sweeper down when they saw the !?
> [{quoted}](name=chelseaoscar15,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j9seGTeN,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T09:41:48.976+0000) > > I doubt that. You never left your 'team' yet deleted in 1 sec? You are telling me not a single person on your team that you were with put a single pink or sweeper down when they saw the !? Ye, he was extremely fed early, and it continued. It was a nightmare.
: Rengar in enemy team? Never ever leave your support. You lane together, you back together, you go pee together. It's pretty much that with all the assassins. It's not enjoyable gameplay but what can you do. It's obviously enjoyable for the assassin players.
> [{quoted}](name=Prugar Senpai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j9seGTeN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-19T09:32:35.400+0000) > > Rengar in enemy team? Never ever leave your support. > You lane together, you back together, you go pee together. > > It's pretty much that with all the assassins. > > It's not enjoyable gameplay but what can you do. > It's obviously enjoyable for the assassin players. Exactly, i tried that yesterday. I never left my team, neither my support, but since he was fed i couldn't do anything. I was literally getting deleted in 1 second. It sucks to die so fast and not be able to do anything.
: Why? {{champion:107}} was nerfed many time because silver poops like you. He is not OP if you use brain. HIs ultimate grant you about 7 secs warning and if you can't prepare yourself to dodge his combo stay in silver.
> [{quoted}](name=Duk the Hunter,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j9seGTeN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-18T18:04:07.657+0000) > > Why? {{champion:107}} was nerfed many time because silver poops like you. He is not OP if you use brain. HIs ultimate grant you about 7 secs warning and if you can't prepare yourself to dodge his combo stay in silver. As far as i know, only some champions can dodge basic attacks, so i don't really see how can you dodge his combo because you can only dodge his bola strike or put a pink.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: How is annie hard to master? What is there TO master?
> [{quoted}](name=Rayz01,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=idVnKcEG,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-06-19T06:10:22.027+0000) > > How is annie hard to master? What is there TO master? Because all of her abilities are skillshots and she doesn't have any type of cc.
: Easy to Learn, Hard to Master
> [{quoted}](name=ThomasHillJr,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=idVnKcEG,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-18T17:43:00.637+0000) > > Hi guys, > > It gets thrown around a lot, this champ is easy to learn, but hard to master. Which champ(-s) do you think this is especially true for? I remember being set on buying {{champion:23}} when an opponent totally rekt my team, but I mean like he carried, ganked, jungled he truly was our "worst nightmare". When I finally got {{champion:23}} though I found that although his mechanics are easy to get one's head around, being good with him is an altogether different story. I was rightly flamed for playing horribly for quite a few games, but preserved and finally mastered him (I consider mastering a champ as having at least an S- rating and level 5 mastery with said champ). > > Other champs that fit this category in my opinion: > {{champion:1}} > {{champion:22}} > {{champion:24}} > {{champion:107}} > {{champion:2}} > > Which champs do you guys find easy to learn, but hard to master? I think i have to disagree with you. There is alot of different type of champions, some are easy to play, hard to master, like katarina, others are hard to play, hard to master, vayne or draven ( seriously, how many times you get frustrated when you see they got picked), and other champs which are easy to play, easy to master, like annie for example. Riot's bundle is for new people and that's why they included champions which are easy to play and easy to master : annie, ashe, garen... As for annie, her kit is very simple, abuse your q for lasthitting minions and abuse your passive, once 6, engage and you've won. Ashe's kit is also basic, but she needs good positioning because she got no escape. Garen also is pretty basic, spam abilities than ulti and voila. Jax and olaf are what i consider easy to play, hard to master from your list. As for rengar, i can't judge. I can also say the majority of top laners are easy champions, not mechanically hard to play, except maybe riven and rumble but overall, all top laners are not that complexe.
: is dravens late game damage underpowered even while fed?
Lemme get this straigh: Draven is the only adc who can deal such damage with an auto attack. He is a hard adc though, but very rewarding. Late game, he is a god trust me, you can 2 shot squishies especially if you have rfc. I had a game yesterday while playing draven and got fed, it was an easy game for us because draven can carry hard. Yes, i was full build, i one shotted squishies because of my q and rfc( which i consider a core on draven), and about tanks, you don't have to go solo vs them, wait for your team and just attack from the back. Also remember to use your e properly, it can be a lifesaver and stop many ulties.
: The Problem with tanky assassins lies not in the items, but in their champion ability kits. Good Thing Fizz received a nerf today.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ARV1vaJ0,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-15T06:27:03.720+0000) > > The Problem with tanky assassins lies not in the items, but in their champion ability kits. > Good Thing Fizz received a nerf today. Well we can't really remove all %health damage from the game, also vayne is half an assassin with an op w, but we don't see her played as tank, so in my opinion, i don't think it's the champions, but it's the items because you see different champions (ekko, fizz, akali) with same tank items.
: Who else deliberately plays unpopular champions?
I'm that type of guy: Started maining adc and right now i play kalista, draven and tristana, sometimes twitch. I even bought lucian one month ago when he has more broken than now, played him one game and stopped. I didn't really like him even tho we won the game. I like playing fun champ like kalista and draven, i really enjoy them even if they are "out of the meta"
: Someone posted a good idea a couple of days ago which was to re-categorise the items into different groupings so Tank,Assassin,Mage,ADC,Hybrid etc etc now champs can only build based on there primary role so Ekko who is main role Mage Secondary Assassin can only build the items designated to the mage and assassins items so items like {{item:3100}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} etc etc and not items like {{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3143}}
> [{quoted}](name=Ryúzákí,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ARV1vaJ0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-14T10:59:23.143+0000) > > Someone posted a good idea a couple of days ago which was to re-categorise the items into different groupings so Tank,Assassin,Mage,ADC,Hybrid etc etc now champs can only build based on there primary role so Ekko who is main role Mage Secondary Assassin can only build the items designated to the mage and assassins items so items like {{item:3100}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} etc etc and not items like {{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3143}} Ekko's primary role is assassin, secondary fighter.
: This is actually a horrible, HORRIBLE idea, killing possibilities to Experiment with unusual builds. Fizz is already receiving nerfs to his W damage and E CD on the PBE.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ARV1vaJ0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-14T11:01:32.373+0000) > > This is actually a horrible, HORRIBLE idea, killing possibilities to Experiment with unusual builds. > Fizz is already receiving nerfs to his W damage and E CD on the PBE. These new builds are actually what riot wants to nerf. You want new builds and complain about tank assassins being too op. I don't get it
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=bulz7,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ARV1vaJ0,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-14T10:53:53.834+0000) > >i think any champion can just build tank and still deal lot of damage due to these op items Prove it, make adc work with tank items, i wanna see a tank {{champion:96}} with {{item:3068}} {{item:3025}}
> [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ARV1vaJ0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-14T10:57:23.091+0000) > > Prove it, make adc work with tank items, i wanna see a tank {{champion:96}} with {{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} Just play vayne with some as and full tank, and see the masterpiece.
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Puckomodo (EUW)
: Which champion is the most rewarding to master?
Here is the list of the champions i think they give you great rewards if mastered: Top lane: Riven, she is hard to master because of her animation canceling and her passive, but she can become a beast if fed and go 1 vs 5 without any problem. Middle lane: Azir, he is practically the hardest champion in lol if i'm not wrong, he can do amazing plays and outplays, and late game can one shot squishies. Leblanc: she is also hard, she needs quick reaction because of how squishy she is. Mid game she one shots adc, also can do the best jukes with her passive and her w. Jungle: Nidalee, since her whole damage is based on hitting her q. She is also hard to play, but has great potential as an assassin. She also has heals, which give her some sustain. Adc: Draven, he is the hardest adc, positioning is everything, also has to keep up with his axes. Late game he can easily kills squishies with 2 axes only. Vayne: She is one of the hardest adcs, if you can get through early game with some kills, late game is where she shines and she can also shred tanks. Kalista: she is also hard to play and she needs a good support to abuse her w and when to engage or disengage with ult. She becomes stronger as we hit mid late game. Support: Thresh, has great utility, also a hook well coordinated with his ult. He can engage or disengage and has a life saving w.
: It's to do with the dash... kalista can't cancel her auto attacks which means if it starts it has to get launched but that created an issue, during the wind up if anyone else loses vision of their target the auto gets cancelled but that wouldn't work with kalista as if she loses vision she still has to throw the spear which would give her a decently big advantage over other champions due to what should be a restriction... So technically it works the same as everyone else, but everyone else just cancels while kalista has to continue with the attack so either way no damage is done.
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pJLcc5oH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-12T15:38:12.641+0000) > > It's to do with the dash... kalista can't cancel her auto attacks which means if it starts it has to get launched but that created an issue, during the wind up if anyone else loses vision of their target the auto gets cancelled but that wouldn't work with kalista as if she loses vision she still has to throw the spear which would give her a decently big advantage over other champions due to what should be a restriction... > > So technically it works the same as everyone else, but everyone else just cancels while kalista has to continue with the attack so either way no damage is done. Kalista not being able to cancel her autos is actually a disadvantage especially if we're talking about cs. They made it up by her martial pose so instead of canceling them, she would jump. Anw are you sure if any adc autoed a target and he left vision, the target won't take damage? Because i think if someone auto you and you enter a bush, you will still take damage. I think i have to try it because i'm not sure.
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Illazuel (EUW)
: Zed....
As of patch 6.9: "The actives of Quicksilver Sash and Mercurial Scimitar now only remove crowd control debuffs".
lDrew (EUW)
: Game Ruined
1- We usually play premade 3-4, mostly 3, we never flame (ye believe it) , also we usually have a jungler in our premade and he never comes gank bot ( 90% of the time), i don't see why people are toxic, everybody have bad games sometimes. We can't really judge the whole premades by just an example but i just wanted to point out that some premades are actually nice. 2- i tried to discuss this subject but it's always the same, you have to stay behind your team and never 1vs 1 tanks. Had a game vs tank fizz, and as an adc he was 1 shotting me even when building full tank with just 60 ap item( scepter). 3- not everybody plays support, you can't really blame the community, everybody likes a role. And you need a support on your team, even with the 2 roles, queus are long, think of what 1 role would be. 4- matchmaking is only based on the team's mmr( as far as i know) so you maybe be facing a plat adc even if you are silver, just because both teams have similar mmrs. Ye it's kinda lame
FatErksike (EUNE)
: I'd add Ashe into there. Relatively easy to play, has slows, good range, an ult that can change some fights and overall simple to win with. If you survive to the late game and your team peels for you at least a bit, then it's won.
> [{quoted}](name=FatErksike,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZUEfwe7q,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-11T20:11:47.396+0000) > > I'd add Ashe into there. Relatively easy to play, has slows, good range, an ult that can change some fights and overall simple to win with. If you survive to the late game and your team peels for you at least a bit, then it's won. Ashe was my first champion, then varus because i liked champions with bows( similiar to hunters in wow). They are both strong but i don't feel like playing them, guess i got bored of them.
bulz7 (EUNE)
: Help with ranked
I mained kalista because she was underrated this season and find that she is one of the strongest adc, even after her nerfs. And if combined with thresh, she can become a god. But after we played a ranked vs zyra and cait ( worst game) we decided we needed to main other combinations. I also started to play draven alot for the same reason( underrated) and god it was a surprise how fun and strong he can be. I'm trying to focus right now on tristana and twitch, we had good games with them . I tried vayne but i just can't play her right. I'm too aggressive in lane and vayne can't be played like that early, so i gave up on her after some harsh defeats.
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shadowolf13 (EUNE)
: What do I do if I know someone that is getting 100% boosted ?
Talking to him would be the best solution, i don't think reporting him will do you or him any good since it would ruin your friendship. Try having a nice talk with him, if he doesn't listen, i suggest you kinda let it go. Anw it was my advice, good luck. :)
Azure9861 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=bulz7,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Gade50xe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-09T16:38:22.816+0000) > > I think lb is great right now, no need to change anything. But since you gave a suggestion, why don't you give us some arguments? Because of the fact when she gets 40% CDR she's... I can imagine you've played in this scenario.
> [{quoted}](name=Azure9861,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Gade50xe,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-09T16:40:24.446+0000) > > Because of the fact when she gets 40% CDR she's... > I can imagine you've played in this scenario. Ye lol i main lb and i know how you feel against her. Anw her passive is what makes her the deciever, i don't think it can be reworked but maybe changed a bit. She is in a nice spot right now because she is strong but too squishy. Also she might need a small buff, just to adjust that winrate.
Azure9861 (EUW)
: I suggest lowering the time LB has to go back to a W by a second
I think lb is great right now, no need to change anything. But since you gave a suggestion, why don't you give us some arguments?
Rayz01 (EUW)
: Annie and Brand are not supposed to be supports and Zyra is way too weak for mid so she ended up as supports.
> [{quoted}](name=Rayz01,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Wp1qIx7h,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-05T15:23:02.565+0000) > > Annie and Brand are not supposed to be supports and Zyra is way too weak for mid so she ended up as supports. Exactly, that's what i have been trying to say for months. Just because they have some cc doesn't make them "supports". No need to add a secondary role as supports because it just ruins the botlane. Annie can do higher damage than the adc while stunning you every minute. Zyra is also strong right now, especially for a support.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: There are no AD based supports, because supports should deal no damage. AP supports exist because they have other skills that scale with AP, like Heals, shields, etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Rayz01,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Wp1qIx7h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-05T14:58:45.151+0000) > >supports should deal no damage. Annie? Zyra? Brand? Ye they are mage but they do way too much damage while still playing support.
bulz7 (EUNE)
: Adc
Thank you all, i really appreciate it, guess i will try them.
bulz7 (EUNE)
: Balance
Ziggs recently got this capability, diana got her passive and because of her items, kyle isn't exactly played fully ap, and azir also but he got special items like diana. Not every ap can get lich bane and nashor's tooth, they are alot other items way more important for some champions.
bulz7 (EUNE)
: Balance
Ye i know leblanc is strong early and can harass him, but i'm not talking only about yasuo vs lb, it's only that some champs can farm so easy, that they can actually get ahead even if they are behind. You're prolly right :p
: Ranked feels wrong to play currently
I am currently doing my 10 placements matches and i'm getting matched with silver and gold, like wtf these are placements tests, shouldn't we all be unranked?
bulz7 (EUNE)
: Balance
That's not the point, it's just that ad reigns over ap in tower destroying and farming. Why not making the AAs on turrets and minions scale with ap not ad for ap champions?
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bulz7 (EUNE)
: Some advices
Thank you guys, we will choose other champions next time. :)
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: Please change the passive of kalista i get motion sick when i play her
Kalista'a power comes from her passive, it's like what really defines her. Are you really asking to delete the one thing that is making kalista unique? I only play her because of her passive, she's like one of my best adcs just because of her kiting abilities due to her passive.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: Since you are turning everything to a skillshot
The problem with annie is that she has too much cc. She has 2 stun which allow her to do her full combo without using flash. Also 2 AOE spells which are great in teamfights and scales well with ap. She has counters but a good annie will always have a stun prepared and ready to blow you up. That's why It's hard lanning against her because her farming abilities are good and her full combo can wipe you out.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: Since you are turning everything to a skillshot
Annie has become a brainless champion to play tbh, she was already a strong and easy champion before but now, she got easier and a lot stronger. Too much aoe damage and cc while all being point and click. Even though her w and ulti aren't really point and click, her passive will let her q stunn you then she will ulti and w and you would literally die. Once we were in a game and we were late game, then our fed khazix attacked annie ( and she was ALONE) , she literally assassinated him. I began wondering whethere she was a mage/supp or a mage/assassin even though she is immobile. It's really frustrating to see such an easy champ to be able to dish out that much damage.
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bulz7 (EUNE)
: Delete champions
Omg you got me all wrong. What i meant is that is it possible to delete specific champions from my account. Lol even thought there is some champions who need to be deleted from lol, i would never ask something that stupid :p
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