Wouldn't suggest you to post this on League Boards, since most League players are biased against Trynd, bcs if we go by rank then 90% of boards are below Plat, and everyone has access to them, besides you lacking some skills, doesn't make champ bad, especially point 2 and 3.
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: Sadly that's not the issue here. They have a high mmr, but Flex Q matches you with people of the same flex mmr, even though their highest mmr might be way above.
Yup, they are different MMR systems, Normal MMR, Solo Ranked MMR, Flex ranked MMR (at least the main ones), and matchmaking is matching by either of those 3 (depending on game mode you're playing).
ˉˉIˉˉ (EUW)
: I get it Riot, you don't want me in plat.
: well, until we are shown whose players are doing better than us after a game or until we get an official response from riot (completed with data and VERIFIABLE scores) i guess both of us are only speculating
the problem is : to smurf in gold you need to be plat at least, there are already stats out there on op gg with percentage of people being in certain ranks, just because one person got nice score in one game doesnt mean he is smurf xD.
: this board is 100% useless
: meaning smurf accounts are devastating to this system :(
no? Smurfs are like 5-10% of whole player base, would say that low elo people bring down the requirements more than high elo is bringing it up.
: No Sense
What if : I don't steal any camps from my jungler (I usually farm enemy jungle if im ahead) and then I get this jungler who takes my cs, why should be he allowed to take my cs if i didn't take his Camps? Often junglers don't know how to manage wave soo they leave the farm in bad spot for me.
: Just a game in euw plat elo
the difference shows in Diamond 4 and above.
: Petition to make a client update, that will punish people who intentionally trolls in champ select..
Then people would abuse it, on anyone who picks offmeta or just pick their main when they got autofilled, people can't instalock in ranked.
kubolok (EUNE)
: trynda main club?
maybe you should ask on subreddit r/TryndamereMains, league boards will just flame you for playing this champ ^^.
Lozrael (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Milee17,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=E6lgEBPR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-14T12:02:23.753+0000) > > its not pathetic but smart actually, no one wants to play against a broken champion or see their teammate go 0 5 on lane cuz he has no idea how to play the champion Is it though? Because that's a lot of dead time you waste just waiting, if you can't handle someone playing a new champion, just ban it then? Questionable argument.
speak of Questionable arguments, your teammate will most likely troll if you will ban his pick ^^.
Lozrael (EUW)
: Increase the penalty for dodging games when a new champion/rework is released
I want to be able to dodge because my teammate thought it was good idea to first time pick an champ in SoloQ.
: Oh really? I'm pretty sure that there was no warning pop up but it's probably my computer because it's old and client is laggy. Well that's sweet, thanks.
in the client you can click the blue/yellow/red "thingy" to check if anything will be happenning to server/game, right next to play button.
: a silly question
uhm there was an warning in top left corner of client that they will be disabling the game for maintenance/update, but yeah you won't get leavebuster bcs the game did not happen.
: Remake system
if he bought items then you will not get remake, and he wasnt dc'ed until 1:24
: he only complains about duoQ, because he doesnt have a duo to play with. There is little argument why duoQ would affect the game overall. In my opinion, trolls and smurfs are far far more impactful to games than enemy duoQs.
smurfs aren't against the rules tho, they are not endorsed either, Trolls, well, depends who you ask, for some people going Teemo Jungle or Tryndamere Mid will be trolling (even tho some people manage to get above 50% wr in their elo), some people will just say that if you're trying to win, you're not trolling, soo as you can see part of "Trolls" is just subjective matter, another portion of "Trolls" are just people who refuse to play or run it down bcs they think it's over, It's hard to detect trolls in Automated matter in which everyone would be happy (if the automated tool will ever exist and it ignored low elo bcs people false report, then those who had real trolls in low elo will be unhappy, if the automated tool will ban based on score and champ played on x lane, those who pick offmeta will be unhappy) Riot has hard time cracking down on Feeders/Inters bcs they don't want to ban people who just perform bad and are reported by their not-so-happy teammates.
Cräfty (EUW)
: SoloQ: My suggestions on how to fix it
>Separate SoloQ from DuoQ First of all one person can't win whole game, especially in higher elos, that's why people duo to increase their chance of winning even more, bring back solo carrying or it will be major problem for people, second Duos are matched with people on enemy that have higher mmr. >Limit autofills per game and balance the autofills in each time I agree on that, I would rather have longer search than get autofilled. >Rework the MMR system from the ground Yup the MMR is system is old, which they "fixed" in 2019 (LP gains are associated with MMR), they should just re-work it completely. >Stop focusing on what's said in game chat and focus more on actual gameplay and its consequences The problem with it is that flaming is straightforward and can be banned automaticaly, feeding/trolling isn't, and many people just report their teammates bcs they had bad matchup/game.
: Being toxic is rewarding.
too small of a sample Eks Dee.
Akívo (EUNE)
: the rules say if you tell people too report or troll u will get banned , isen`t that the rule why is that jungler not banned !? and mind your own busyness and don`t talk from above , your not in my situation too judge I got banned couse 5 polaks reported me "Logic isn't your strong suit is it.." wich is not fair couse its a automatic system
if he didnt flame you and just said report x person, he will most likely not be banned .
: the line between playing offmeta and trolling
I'm glad you're not taking extreme situations /s
Akívo (EUNE)
: the jungler stood bot lane for 3 waves that is not against the rules ? flamed told people too report me and because all 7 of them were polaks aperantly they won I don't see the point of this , they also laugh from the start when I was 0 1 "HAHA ENJOY the permna , all whit new accouts prob alts couse mains are banned . so I don't see the fairplay in this crap , and if that idiot doesn't gets banned for telling people too report , for trolling botlane , never playing this game ever again
: The smurfs that keep on doing this basically have nothing better to do. - No car no wife. - still living with parents really common these days. - no full-time or part-time job. (Very lucky if they do get one usually likely fired tho) What else is new in this era? If the smurfs are bored on League heck they go play fortnite, apex legends, PUBG or call of duty simple logic for kids these days.
soo you have some sort of data on smurfs or just spew out nonsense ?
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Do something that keeps smurf accounts away from the general server
what's with this circlejerk around smurfs, lets say 90% of the people are Plat 4 and below and lets say that smurfs are 5% to 10% (to smurf in silver/gold you need to be plat level at least), that leaves us in one smurf in 10 games or one smurf in 20 games, not everyone who is better than you is "an smurf".
thwifo (EUNE)
: Riot's ban programs are disgusting
mass reporting doesnt do anything, 1 report is as valuable as 9 reports, people don't get it, you say an word that is "offensive", you get reported and you get banned, yes it is hard to tell apart people inting and people playing just bad, there was an tribunal system for some time, it didnt go good soo they removed it, I didnt get any sort of ban in my journey from S3 to S9 that proves i have my composure on check and don't just go and flame people.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: I don't understand upvotes and downvotes sometimes
bcs boards are open for everyone, that's why most of high elo people don't use them, soo we have all those Plat and below people here and also some Diamonds, most of those people are toxic/passive-aggresive in their games, soo they don't like you talking about good experiences/ good behaviour bcs they themselves usually don't do that (it's like with that we don't do that here meme), since voting system works on more people = better basics we have those situations where person explains difficult macro problems and he gets downvoted into oblivion bcs people who aren't good at the game downvoted him ^^.
: How to get to level 30 fast!!
Option A : you get 2 other people to join you and do twisted treelines against AI within 7 minutes (optionaly exp boost) Option B : you do ARAMs (slower)
GlacialBird (EUNE)
: Akali patch 9.14
true stealth was the thing that made her cancerous to play against, dont bring it back.
: Agreed. As an explication for Kubsar. Picking your main, E. G darious top, should give you a 53% chance to win, vs say, picking darious adc which gives you say a 47% chance to win. Still not bankable but certainly less useful. However picking Alistar jungle (no smite) means your team basically don't have jungle. And are very likely to lose. Rememebr, we play a game where removing 20 damage off of 1 ability can see there win rates fall by 10%. So, yes, there are ways to play optimally "darious top", sub optimally "Darious adc" and troll "Alistar jungle".
Soo if i picked Tryndamere Support with less than 50% wr and still not be banned bccs it's only suboptimal.
: >because there is no crime you dont commit... since you can play any champ in any role with any summoner spell there isnt anything wrong with going doublesupport with cleanse and ghost A person who has never played a single match on a competitive level would answer exactly like you did. Fact is that it is indeed against the rules to do that. It's called trolling. >so your idea is that you should get a free dodge and punish them when they did nothing wrong? and that would magically cure the toxicity? why dont you just play the game (since you lose lp anyway) and report them after the game when you have evidence against them? There is so much wrong in this paragraph. Firstly, you acknowledged that the match is a loss by saying "since you lose LP anyway", which means even you actually consider it trolling despite trying to protect that behavior at first. Secondly, ofc you should get a free dodge because the other people DID do something wrong. They are holding the champion select hostage. That's against the rules. It's the intention behind the action that matters. They picked those champs with those summoners to force a teammate to dodge so they don't have to. It doesn't matter at that point if ghost+ cleanse double supports is allowed by the rules when the intention behind those picks is not. There is also no point in playing the game despite you saying that you lose LP anyway. You lose less LP from dodging than from losing and you don't lose mmr from it like you do from losing. Still, it sucks to be forced to dodge and the ones who forced you to do it are free to do it all over again without a punishment because riot has no system in place to combat it. The evidence is already there in the champion select and no game has to be played to see it. >nope you are not a bad guy for posting a photo, you are just invading their privacy, which is protected by law As i explained in my other comment, he is not invading their privacy. Summoner name is not private information. It's public. >there is a huge difference here that you missed by a mile, in your example you talk about murdering someone, which is always illegal no matter the situation, so even talking about doing it is illegal and punishable, but ingame its different, there is nothing against going disco nunu if you want to win with it, because you can play anything anywhere, its only against the rules if you are deliberately trying to lose the game for your team, and thats the difference, thats why there is no punishment for talking about going disco nunu, because thats NOT against the rule Another false statement and it comes back to intention again. > there is nothing against going disco nunu if you want to win with it Such a thing doesn't exist though. By going disco nunu, you ACKNOWLEDGE that you are lowering your team's chances of winning by a huge margin, which inherently means you aren't trying to win. You are intentionally making the game hard to win. If you were trying to win, you would pick summoners that make sense. Not to mention it does become punishable if your team doesn't want you to do unorthodox things and you do it anyway. We have had many examples in the past of people getting punished for doing stuff like that so claiming it's not against the rules is simply ignorant and delusional.
soo picking an sub 50% wr is lowering your team's chances of winning by not a huge but still margin, that means picking something that has sub 50% wr is trolling, no matter if you want to win or you main that champ, I wanna pick my sub 50% wr champ whenever i feel like, and it's not bannable even if i will pick duelist without cc on support bcs I main that champ and im still trying to win.
: Can we buff jax for a bit or maybe rework jax ?
Compraed to Tryndamere he is still usefull ^^.
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: play ranked again
lets say smurfs are 5% of the gamebase in your elo(people that are gold+ will be smurf for you ), then lets say that those "griefers/Trollers" are 5% of the gamebase too, that's giving us 10% of people that can ruin your games+- people who just underperform(there's nothing wrong wtih that), you're in Bronze elo with pretty good cs but high death count, smurfs should be in 1 out of 20 of your games, as you play more this becomes more and more true, I didnt see your games soo can't really judge if the players were trolling you or not.
signedL (EUW)
: >im pretty sure everybody know when somebody is afk in side lane or pressuring it Shouldn't this give you a little more confidence in that the OP actually knows what he is talking about? You are not being attacked, stop acting like a victim simply because someone is calling you out for being a d_ick for whatever reason. There is a **non**patronizing way to express the EXACT same thing you said, but you **chose** to sound as patronizing as possible, when someone calls you out for it saying it makes you look like an asshole, you deny it and play victim and say you are being attacked.
what ? I pointed out things that could happen in this game, is pointing out things being a %%%% ? no, I didnt even call him bad names just said he might not have enough macro knowledge to see some stuff, that's pointing out facts, not everybody knows what it really means, i have seen a lot of people on euw in gold ping that one guy who is splitpushing bcs they just fought 4v5.
: dude im G1 because i got demoted playing with friends, chill out pro player im pretty sure everybody know when somebody is afk in side lane or pressuring it xD even by bronze you know it... Yea obviously im lying...like nobody ever saw a troll player XD
i didnt say you're lying, i just said i can't confirm you're telling truth, idc if you demoted from Plat or w/e your elo is, right now you're in gold 1 elo with 900 games ~around 50% wr, I didnt say im pro player either, I'm getting attacked by you because i wanna see both sides instead of your side.
signedL (EUW)
: The dude is obviously NOT talking about "pressuring" sidelanes, please for fuc*ks sake don't be so patronizing....
I'm not "patronizing", Guy is 900 games G1, you're playing with tier average Bronze 1, both of you don't have good enough map awarness nor macro knowledge to know tactics that high elo players (not me) use, there are many factors that come into conclusion if play was bad or not, if what he is speaking is true then yes they were trolling by going to sidelane and not pressuring anything, but i didnt see VOD soo i can't tell if he is telling truth or not. (im only trying to see both sides to it not only Author' side.)
: no one is pressuring side lane they aren't pushing it XD
are they doing it 24/7 or when the enemy is missing ? see there are a lot of factors deciding if play is right or not, not only what you think is.
: Platinum Elo Difficulty
sadly, I have been in this elo for 2 seasons now, Boating around P2-P1, you get D4-P2 in your games and if you're unlucky you just lose bcs enemy team had less boosted D4s.
xxxXFANXxxx (EUNE)
: The Qiyana
she requires skill. Get good.
: going to side lane refusing to play the game its troll for sure its the same as staying in base walking around but there is a difference, they won't suicide in base
nope, you're pressuring side lane, that's not the same as staying in base.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: Whats the point of playing TFT
: Riot its not punishing people who forcibly lose the game
going to sidelane isn't necesseary troll , about the running it down i agree, sometimes they don't get banned
shellsort (EUW)
: Had to change my name because it was inappropriate apparently.
WTF means What the Fck, that could be it, or someone just thought you're good and for him it was offending that you call yourself noob ^^.
: What is a good CS/min count?
~7-8 cs per minute on hard matchup, 8-9 on moderate matchup and 9-10 on easy matchup is good, you should try getting as much cs as you can in practice tool to the 10th minute while staying on one lane and starter items.
XIwrenIX (EUW)
: Clearly he isn't that skilled tho...how is this not sinking in....Did you even bother to read what I originally said??? I actually watched 10 of his games and compared them to iron players...HE is 100% that bad.....
then he will eventually fall down, because he is making team lose more games than win games
XIwrenIX (EUW)
: His skill does not match the players he is being paired with....that's the problem it creates an imbalanced game where one player is significantly underperforming...….How is this not sinking into your head?
how is THIS not sinking into your head, if he wasnt skilled enough he wouldn't have mmr that high.
Poo Poo C (EUNE)
: Long Story Written Short
XIwrenIX (EUW)
: Then the system needs an overhaul...because two players with different skill levels should not be paired with each other. Some invisible number should not be determine skill....when it is very apparent that one player is clearly ALOT better than the other one.
IF you're having mmr low enough to be playing with bronze or he is having mmr high enough to play with gold, then I don't see the problem, you gain mmr by winning the games and lose mmr by losing the games, the more games you win the more mmr you have.
XIwrenIX (EUW)
: That statement is pure ignorance and tbh its more of an insult.....this guys genially asking what is wrong with this shity ranked system that will actively put a bronze 1 player in my plat 4 promos...Last game I had a Nautilus support that landed 2 hooks the entire game...so your telling me im just as bad as him? Sorry mate but if Im playing a champ with a skill shot im guaranteed to land 50% of them....that guy landed 2 out of maby 50 hooks....most of them at point blank range.... This naut also made multiple mistakes consistently. mistakes that I would never make, I make tones of mistakes but no where near as bad as this guy. After watching the replay It became very apparent he legitimately had no idea what he was doing at all. Tbh he was probably boosted out of his proper elo by a higher ranked friend or payed for a boost...I compared 10 of his games to that of iron 1 players...guess what they did the same as him. Its become increasingly rare for players of equal skill to be paired with each other duo to que timers....That is the main reason he is getting unranked accounts. Its unable to find gold players that fast so it starts throwing unraked accounts at him because they start closer to gold elo from what I have seen.
bcs all that matter is MMR ? Not the Actual Rank ?
: Some "mains" are not even worth to be mentioned, sorry. "I am Zed main let me zed or I feed" says a guys with 44% winrate on Zed and average stats of Iron. Or it could be a guy who plays for two weeks total. I've seen this so many times, that I do not even try noticing that kind of claim. > if someone bans my hover pick i op gg him and ban his main smh And here you go breaking the code of conduct via malicious banning. Maybe that is not the case where you can be caught easily, but you know you're doing it. I.e. you join the evil you meant to fight. Congrats, Anakin! Funny thing is that it usually changes nothing, unless you meet someone who only knows how to play one champ.
I don't see any point in code of conduct about banning someone's champ.
: Let's say my ping is 100 using a VPN will make it 300 you can't play on 300
not if you use server close to you.
: I really lost hope today. Like what did I do wrong? I'm 21 living in Iran. Ruled by a government that was never my choice or my family. And then all hell is loose on us because of other people's beliefs. Like what is the purpose? You are attacking and limiting innocent people's lives America. What do you hope to achieve from this?
they are not supporting the people of the enemy, both countries are at fault.
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