: Your "Win Conditions" do not have anything with how you play (or do very little).
: Summoner's Rift Advantures
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Kurotsu (EUW)
: Favorite ability in the game?
Death Sentance, {{champion:412}} Q. If my teammates are smart enough in mid-late game the name is accurate.
: [EUW] 1380RP minimal art contest
So Teemo ate little too many shrooms and is now hallucinating himself as a shroom but made of triangles. https://imgur.com/a/QYbcLd5 Nothing special as shroom Teemo has probably been made before but I can't even win anything so it doesn't really matter. Only thing that matters to me is that I had fun making this. Edit: It looks like that the picture doesnt show properly so you'll have to click it open
Alatharia (EUW)
: There's something funny about a graduate throwing their diploma. Haha.
Yeah, but it returns... ...right???
: well thats just what you think tho ... the reality we observe is clear ... riot doesent care about inters ... not sure how much you know about this but there was a streamer ... that was trying to go for rank 1 on different than his main server ... now people on that server for some reason decided it would be fun to make it a hell for him ... so every other game someone was running it down on his team ... he eventually got pissed enough (who woulda guessed right) to start typing ... and thats where they got him ... the dude got ban ... but what about the inters you ask ? well ofc there was no punishement on them ... now im not sure if thats how the case got closed and ended ... i stopped following that cause i already knew what i wanted to know ... riots stand on this and their policy ... now i dont really care if they went back and punished those inters later (i doubt they did but if so it still doesent matter they basically made a statement doing that) - the statement being - dont use any words we dont like (no there are no bad words ... just words) else you get banned ... but run it down all the way if thats what you have fun doing :) thats okay mate :)
Like I said, flamers are easy to detect with accuracy while inters are not.
: yeah ... but apparently people dont mind getting inted every other game ... else they wouldnt be buying every other shitty skin they put out ... oh and they do buy a ton else riot would actually have to care about the inters ... they just have more than enough money as it is so why would they bother fixing stuff ... god forbid they would fix something it could actually hurt them (probably the inters buying a lot of stuff too thats why they dont ban them)
Well, not all people stop buying skins when they get inters, but a reasonably sized portion does. And most likely by removing the paying inters they would get more money from the people who dont encounter more inters.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} I am tired of you justifying the bad punishment system. Gl hf.
Let me quote myself. > EDIT: Ofc by this post i'm not saying that Riot shouldn't try to improve their system. I am saying why it is hard to implement a working system and Riot are probably trying. For example the honor system was an attempt to make the system better and in some ways it did.
: honestly i dont understand anyone (maybe outside of streamers) that spend any kind of coin on this game ... gamebalance ? yup going downhills for many seasons now (every new or reworked champ has to be nerfed multiple times and they are still on the strong end after all those nerfs - and yes there are exeptions but very rare) the matchmaking ? very poor joke ... putting together people of skill so varying that every game is superstompy (most games are around 20-25 mins not that often you get longer games ... and just about as often you get games that are done in 10-20 minutes) the rank system ? https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=DJ%20Sona%20SLO ... i mean 49% win ratio this season dude got from gold 4 last season into plat 2 this season (with that 49% winrate) while being onetrick sona support that barely ever wards anything ... has really poor stats overall ... yet climbed 6 divisions for some reason ? - clear proof of rank being straight up joke the state of the client ? i mean what ? new client loading even longer ? getting random errors while you want to check loot or any other stuff on the client ? or the client just straight up ignoring commands ? (click collection to wait for nothing happening ... only to click it again for it to work suddenly ? shop loading for 5+ seconds ?(new client btw) ???? match history being unavailable multiple different times just last couple of weeks ? state of the game ? getting stuck on 100% loading screen into the game ? that you have to end trough task manager and connect back else you "leave the game" they remake and you lose?... almost no skill visuals actually match the skills hitbox (getting hit by stuff thats clearly nowhere near touching you etc)
But how would Riot by not caring about inters make the thing better. All these things are causes of anger/unhappiness and so are inters. And anger/unhappiness => no money spent.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Not punishing innocent people leads to cases like this: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/4djjfQhF-why-is-this-person-not-banned https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/I546Bzzu-comical
The system has to sure that innocent people dont get punished and I guess the automated system can't be sure in this case. Like I've said many times : In Riots perspective not punishing inters is better than punishing innocent people.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: If they're innocent and punished wrongly they can file a ticket; players who int in 15 games and getting punished can get their ban lifted-so idk how long are we going to play the "not punishing the innocent" card here. If someone is reporting, with a proof they will not be discouraged against fake reports getting punished, because they're not raising a false alarm. Only those who blindly report all and fakely report someone will get discouraged. Again and again you're saying innocent people will be punished to let all the inters, trolls and afk/rage quitters to run free and ruin games. RIOT has a point to stop players to reach new ranks easily because if they set season goal as Plat 4 and if they get it easily, they will move to next game(say Dota2 or HotS or CS:Go). Only by forcing someone to grind, they make sure the players play LoL more and playing more will eventually lead to purchases (event passes, skins). It doesn't mean that everyone in Silver is going to be Diamond, just that games won't be coin-flips because of inters/trolls/afk in every game. If someone is afk , it can be easily found out even if they move occasionally because there are some stats that can be used to check it.
> [{quoted}](name=maayonmaayan,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=rfmKmtd2,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T11:49:34.834+0000) > > If they're innocent and punished wrongly they can file a ticket; players who int in 15 games and getting punished can get their ban lifted-so idk how long are we going to play the "not punishing the innocent" card here. > But then it requires human interference thus making it bad for riot. So yes my statement about not punishing innocent is still viable. And even if Riot could respond quickly to every ticket, some people would still quit. For example I could definetly see people going "fk this shit game for banning me for no reason!". > If someone is reporting, with a proof they will not be discouraged against fake reports getting punished, because they're not raising a false alarm. Only those who blindly report all and fakely report someone will get discouraged. > But what if people arent 100% sure if it is punishable behaviour (When it is). They wouldn't report them. Maybe overtime those fake reporters would be noticed, but still. I don't think we want to fuel the fake reporter's anger by punishing them for reports. For Riot it's easier just not to punish fake reports. I'm saying that punishing for fake reports would bring more problems than solve. > Again and again you're saying innocent people will be punished to let all the inters, trolls and afk/rage quitters to run free and ruin games. RIOT has a point to stop players to reach new ranks easily because if they set season goal as Plat 4 and if they get it easily, they will move to next game(say Dota2 or HotS or CS:Go). Only by forcing someone to grind, they make sure the players play LoL more and playing more will eventually lead to purchases (event passes, skins). It doesn't mean that everyone in Silver is going to be Diamond, just that games won't be coin-flips because of inters/trolls/afk in every game. > While the trolls may lose your team the game the other team will still win and gain lp towards their next rank. Ofc you could say that Riot has implemented a system which balances the trolls to the team which is nearest of completing their rank goal, but then why are people still climbing and reaching new ranks, for example I climbed from s4 to g4 in this season with only experiencing a few games which I lost because of afkers and inters. Some games when I encountered such people I even won. And while some people might quit after accomplishing their goal many will just set a new higher goal. > If someone is afk , it can be easily found out even if they move occasionally because there are some stats that can be used to check it. This is most likely true and Riot could probably make their system better in this field.
: yeah i understand why would that make sense to you ... but just cause it makes sense it doesent mean thats the way it is ;) you will learn that eventually trough life tho :)
So you're saying that when people get satisfied they quit? I can see that happening but not often. I'm not also saying that all people who are happy will spend more money. But if people rage quit because of inters they can't spend money on the game. So I don't get your point. Could you make it more clear what you're saying?
K1tetsu (EUNE)
: Who said anything about banning? They could simply not allow them to queue for ranked games for a certain period (2 weeks or whatever) and allow them to play any other mode and still get loot. Once I had a bot (the old good bots running it down on AI and aram games) in my ranked game. It bought boots and changed lanes. They were unable to even detect that even after we reported it as cheating/automated program. If you have 0/10 in 6 out of 10 games it doesn't matter if you are inting or playing poorly. it means you are not ready to play ranked and you shouldn't play ranked anyway. But for Rito this is rocket science
Stopping people from queuing for ranked is same as banning them from ranked. So my original point stands.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Detecting afk players is very easy task, especially when they're repeatedly quit the game after first blood or first few mins. Saying that every player who disconnects is having internet issues, heavy rain, earth quake, world war, apocalypse,.... in their region and leaving them with no punishment is just encouraging afk players to ruin games which in turn makes others to play more games for winning/climbing. Detecting people who int is not very easy, but still not as complicated as you portray it to be. Players in game knows that someone running down mid or going to lane only to die or intentionally throwing just to ruin the games; although they report blindly, if the system takes action for inting-provided there is some screenshot or video clip of a player inting which can prove it easily. Problem is that it is difficult(not very difficult or impossible) with automated punishment system, so unless the stats are absurd there is no action taken. As with afk players, they don't care about players who regularly have bad games(as per what they say) because they force others to play more games to win/climb. There is no PRA-Performance based Rank Adjustment and there is no punishment for inters in the name of "not punishing someone innocent" because games will become fair and for those who take ranked seriously they will not have to spend lot of time to climb. If someone really thinks that report system is not used properly, decrease honor level for each fake report someone sends. If honor level isn't important, make it LP decrease for a fake report. So players will stop blindly reporting and will start reporting only for offenses. tldr: RIOT doesn't care for inters or afk players because they help in forcing players to play more games.
Punishing players for a fake report, would discourage some people from reporting even when there is a reason for it. Thats why I don't think punishing for fake reports is good. As with detecting inters there is a problem with being near perfectly accurate. As they cannot risk punishing innocent people. So it is actually a difficult task. Riot cares because inters and afkers also make people quit the game. Riot has no point trying to stop people from reaching new ranks because for most people there are always new ranks to reach for. Detecting afks is not that hard but how do you detect an afk who moves occasionally so that the automated system wont spot them. And remember we have to be accurate as innocent people cant be punished.
: the first part is no secret ... they never did care ... they obviously dont care now ... and i dare to guess they never will ... the second part about them killing off league is just my guess ... but league is going downhills for a while now ... when they released TFT it was kind of apparent on league getting even less care than before ... now they will be releasing couple of new games in coming years ... soo
> [{quoted}](name=JokeroffHell33,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=rfmKmtd2,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-07T00:00:35.080+0000) > > the first part is no secret ... they never did care ... they obviously dont care now ... and i dare to guess they never will ... > I think Riot cares simply because if there were less inters/people ruining games, they would get more money. If people are happy playing league they dont want to quit it and may use some money to buy some skins
: so short version detecting flamers (bot can read trough chat really fast) - super easy detecting inters (hard and would actually require them to do stuff) - kinda complicated and not so easy result - lets just have bot checking chat (thats basically not even anything game-related) and smashing the banhammer on everyone that says any "bad words" ... thats all have fun boyz we dont need anything else :) this is fine
I myself belive that Riot tries to make a system to detect inters. Why wouldn't they. It just is hard because there is no clear solution like there is for flamers. I belive that getting rid of the inters would bring Riot more money. Simply because then people would be more satisfied.
ryandub (EUW)
: But riot can put mechanisms in place to prevent the high rate of inting and afkers. For an example, statistics can be used to determine if ur performance was an extreme outlier compared to the performance of the rest of the team. If so, th system can tell you to take a short break from ranked (e.g. 3 games). Happens again then the # of games extends. If the person just had a bad game then maybe they can use some practice.
The thing is that Riot can't simply ban players from ranked for simply playing poorly. That would be horrible from a game desingers perspective. I don't think that having the game tell you that maybe you need some practise/you played poorly would be a good idea. I just think that it would tilt people and thus make them play worse. So in my opinion your idea would bring much more downsides and wouldn't really fix the problem without creating a new one.
Yunarito (EUW)
: League+
I'd like if we could access the boards through the app. As going to the cite on mobile is always little bit annoying.
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: We all know though that RIOT won't do anything about inters/trolls/boosted accounts. They just want you to stop flaming while they ruin your games.
We have to look through Riot's perspective. Im 100% sure that they don't want any inters or afkers etc in this game, but for them punishing someone who hasn't done nothing wrong is way worse than leaving someone without a punishment. How would you implement a system that can decide that it was inting instead of being just a bad game. Remember this system has to have near perfect accuracy. Riot can punish flamers way more easily as it is way more easier to detect them.
: Lux is definitely not OP. She is an easy champion and many beginners have success with her, but she is definitely not OP and doesn't deserve to be nerfed. 0 mobility, maximum squishiness (her W is weaker than you think), and her damage is lower than that of ADC's. Oh and, about her R, its basically her only spell that deals some decent damage. E is poke, Q is CC, W is utility. R deals decent amount of damage.
Yeah, and lux i good in low elos where people have do idea how to dodge anything.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ian San ,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=siGO9avz,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-08-16T22:17:17.582+0000) > > Don't generalize Dom's games, he sometimes gets inted simply because he is what he is. A cu*t. So he is getting trolled because of other reasons in most cases, so let's leave it at that. > > I will agree that Riot won't punish inters because that would mean a person would have to watch a replay of the game and then decide that the 1/8 Yasuo midlane was actually inting and not just having a bad game, which would require a lot of time for just the inting reports and a lot of support members spending days in and days out watching boring replays all day long. > > But then again, I have been playing League since Season 2 and I can count the games in which I had a legit troll on the fingers of one hand. I can't remember having one single troll in my ranked games this entire season, and I have 200+ games in ranked this season. Not once did I lose it because of a troll or inter. But there is another problem with this that will never be solved because it can never be solved. > > That is people calling some one that has a bad game for real, an inter or troll. They call dying to a gank inting, they call missing a skillshot inting, everything is inting. The word "Inting" has been trashed around so much that it lost it's meaning completely. Same goes for "trolling". Some one messes something up ? "OMFG TROLL NOOB INTING JUNGLER REPORT" > > I don't know what the whole deal with "League is unplayable because of all the inters that lurk around every corner and every game has 8 inters and 2 trolls wtf unplayable" is, because I basically never see those "Trolls" or "Inters", but I will agree that people give up super often and that pisses me off as well. When they say "Ff 15" in minute 3. That is a problem. So how about we stop calling shitty players inters and trolls and simply call out people that give up way too quickly ? Giving up quickly is not the problem. When people use a champ they don't know or for example use Ezreal adc and have 30 CS at minute 10, that should be punishable for playing in ranked. Or at least lose -75 LP when doing that or similar, ranked lost its meaning not the words inting, noob or whatever.
30 cs at 10 mins is horrible but i belive that people who are beginners and learning that's pretty usual cs amount. If the system punished beginner players they would quit and thus no new people will play. So while this might be just fine in Gold+ in iron/bronze it wouldn't work.
Doow (EUW)
: Lost ranked game because of League Client.
>It don't think it is fair. Yeah, it's not. But there really isn't anything to be done, since the bug was seemingly fixed. Life just isn't fair always.
: Who is the champion that's played so rarely, that gets you surprised when you see him in-game ?
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Ezzra (EUNE)
: But how normal players are supposed to deal with trolls? It doesn't matter that i ll never play with them again. Damage is done already. I lost game. Why should i take that L to my record? Games like that should not be taking into account in ranking system. Give winner their points, but don't take anything from team who had troll in theirs? SImple? Very simple. Or combine all these points, and take them out of trolls pool. That would be fair. You both are missing a point here. Game punishes players, just because they have a troll in their team. Normal players like myself are losing points cause of those people. And those trolls go unpunished sometimes. How is that fair to us?
You still have to remember that you will still get people like this in the enemy team. You just might not remember them as human mind usually remembers the bad stuff better.
: Mate, I have been on the boards for years. Why do I have to wait to respond to 13 comments??
Yeah it's really annoying, especially when i see a lot of comments i want to upvote but then........
SygSmurf (EUNE)
: Ranked is so god damn stupid
In your team there are 4 strangers, but in enemy team there are 5 strangers. So if all strangers or most of them are bad then, simply you should win more. Therefore only way to climb is to be better yourself.
: When is tft season ending?
According to my knowledge on the November 6th. But I am not 100% certain of that so you might wanna look into that
: Workshop training
You can somewhat train farming or last hitting if you go to practice mode with a bot and lock level + make turrets invulnerable.
: Unpopular Opinion: I like ARURF more than URF
Unpopular opinion: I don't like URF. I really enjoy the longer laning phases and the strategic decisions that happen in normals/rankeds. I don't really experiense those in URF so thats why I myself don't enjoy it that much.
: 🎃👻 Volunteer Halloween Quiz 👻🎃
All kinds of events like these are always awesome. Keep them up! This shall be my comment.
: Lets talk About an Santa Ornn Skin
Good idea, I'd for sure buy that skin. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Vayneished (EUNE)
: Why would system even help weaker players? It's a ranked, and weaker players should be punished instead of giving them opportunity to switch the game in the their favor. It's a game where there you have to be the best out of other 7 players. It's stupid that system allows weaker players this, why doesn't summoners rift have this? If you are behind you should stay behind, because enemy team is better , and you shouldn't gave any advantage if you are already losing a game.
The point of the carousell is not to give bad players a chance. The point is to give people who got bad rng a chance. I'm pretty sure that if someone "bad" beat you because of the carousel, he/she might not actually been that bad.
: > [{quoted}](name=neropa,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YiVkZjr8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-29T20:59:43.670+0000) > > Carousels balance the game a little bit and give the weaker players an opportunity to get some good items. But honestly I hate the carousel at the start of the game since you really never get what you want (or I atleast don't). Reality is that you cannot really replace the start carousel with anything that I'd think is better. The balance argument is rubbish. Just because someone has some bad rolls at the start of the game does not mean he will never get good rolls later in the game. I have seen "weak" players get their good items. And 2 rounds later they re-roll a 2 star Jinx or Swain even. Yeah,.. balance,.. the game is RNG so there is no need to manually balance anything with a carousel. Either RNG does the work or it doesnt,.. thats the whole point of an RNG game like TFT.
> Yeah,.. balance,.. the game is RNG so there is no need to manually balance anything with a carousel. > Either RNG does the work or it doesnt,.. thats the whole point of an RNG game like TFT. That is correct, **in the long run** the RNG will naturally balance itself. But the thing is that it is not guaranteed that the players who got bad rolls will get good rolls. This is why I belive that some balance will be good. >I have seen "weak" players get their good items. Some people might intentionally lose to get some better items as a part of their strategy and I see nothing wrong with that because anyone could do that. Though this kinda breaks the idea of balancing for the weaker. But nevertheless it still gives weaker players an opportunity to get back into the game. And some people might use it to get good items by intentionally losing but as this is a strategy game it's not that big of a deal in my opinion. >And 2 rounds later they re-roll a 2 star Jinx or Swain even. And then they win and next time the carousel is you'll have the opportunity to get something good to fight the luck they got by rolling swain.
: TFT - remove carousels
Carousels balance the game a little bit and give the weaker players an opportunity to get some good items. But honestly I hate the carousel at the start of the game since you really never get what you want (or I atleast don't). Reality is that you cannot really replace the start carousel with anything that I'd think is better.
: where to write
You can submit a ticket [here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) but the fact is that you probably wont get it changed and you have to save up the blue essence.
WolfX10 (EUNE)
: Remember how Akalis shroud was, sorry I meant is, a huge pain? Well wait till you see this shit!
Oh I can't wait pro teams to abuse the heck out ofSenna and then get her nerfed to an another realm.
: (urf) Either SIGNIFICANLY buff the dragon, herald and baron, or remove them
I belive that URF matches are supposed to be fast and that's why i don't want dragon/baron to be buffed since it would slow down the pace of the game.
: muting everyone doesnt prevent 0/10 inters
Yeah, It doesn't but it prevents flamers, so thats still something.
Gryndall (EUNE)
: What I should do? I don't know.
I'd recommend you muting everyone. Nothing really important will be told on the chat in these ranks. Pings are enough communication most of the time. Also I recommnd you to play your best (Zyra) so don't try meta picks if you aren't comfortable with them.
: A server-wide daily ban for 11-th champion
Why? I mean what would that bring to the game. I feel like this is would only bring anger and nothing else. I see no benefits here.
: 1001 KILLS DRAVEN
It was all planned. All the players knew each other.
GT omg (EUNE)
: Looking for a good adc
Not matter how good the adc is, the support is the one who wins the lane. As an adc it's really hard to win lane without atleast a decent support.
: Profile - Stats don't work?
I'he had the same problem about the same amount of time.
: Got Mini Legend but I can't select it.
I had the same problem but relogging in solved it.
: His kit is a bit overloaded. On hit damage, low cd "bread and butter" Q, Self sustain W (shield and heal), CC "hook" type E with built in percentage pen, A qss tax ult which gives him mega stats, an aoe constantly persistent massive huge damage passive. There's 2 options in my opinion, keep his kit and nerf his numbers, or take away some of his kit and keep the numbers.
His Q doesn't have that long range and is dodgeable. Either you dodge it completely (EG youre playing a ranged champ or someone with mobility) or you walk closer to morde and take less damage (And them maybe try to trade back). Maybe his q has sligtly to much dmgon a low cd, but not that big of a deal. His E is quite easy to dodge if you have some mobility (Many champs nowdays have some) . His ult is indeed a qss tax but I would say his ult is in many ways similiar to malzas. But I'm not saying that morde doesnt need nerfs. He is a strong champ, and maybe some nerfs could actually be useful.
: In game toxicity creates most of the time chat-related toxicity.
>Now is my toxicity worse than theirs ? You'd probably say yes, cause I flamed. But let's be real, it is a ranked game. you're supposed to try your best to win. When I'm trying my absolute best to claim that win and get to play with/against better players in more competitive games but i lose that chance, and have to waste more time to climb again, just because some people just don't care about winning. Is that not toxic ? It's not other peoples business to point your mistakes to you. Making mistakes is normal and it's part of being a human thus it's not toxic. Flaming other people is clearly toxic. >everyone cares too much about chat-related issues than how the game should be played. Chat related things effect gameplay aswell, pointing out peoples mistakes doesn't make them play better in that moment instead they might tilt and play worse. Chat related stuff also effects the player more than just having a bad game. Is your point here trying to say that pointing other peoples mistakes to them is not toxic? Or is it that making mistakes should be punishable? Neither of those makes any sense.
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