ipv (EUW)
: 1st of all u need to learn how to speak fkin properly english 2nd of all u suk thats why u lose!!
> [{quoted}](name=ipv,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=76p2lOax,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-19T03:54:30.714+0000) > > 1st of all u need to learn how to speak fkin properly english > 2nd of all u suk thats why u lose!! Let me correct you. " First of all,you need to learn how to properly speak english(which would be write instead of speak but w/e) Second of all,you suck that's why you lose" That being said,how is this comment helpful to the OP? It's unnecesary and completely irrelevant to the matter. You also forget a lot of people on EUW come from different cultures/regions which could have more or less contact with the English language. The guy/girl also apologises for his/her english at the end of the post,which you haven't read or are deliberately ignoring. Basicly,your comment is just mean for no reason. The funny thing is,your written English isn't really something to be proud of,I'm not sure why you think it is. I'm not a native english speaker myself but the post is understandable. Lastly,you suck at being human.
: Getting Matched with Gold players
If you get matched with/against Silver I/Gold III players playing solo and being Bronze I then probably your MMR is really high for your current league. If the next game you're getting Bronze/Silver teammates/opponents,then the matchmaking is not working as it's supposed to be working.
Kravixman (EUNE)
: Sure sir... whatever, just too tired to fight with whole community of {{champion:412}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:555}} fanboys. *"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."* Not sure if I can use his name here, so I will just leave it here.
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=0001000000000000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-23T13:26:58.141+0000) > > Sure sir... whatever, just too tired to fight with whole community of {{champion:412}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:555}} fanboys. > > *"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."* > Not sure if I can use his name here, so I will just leave it here. Alright man. Yuumi is the hardest champion in the game to play,followed by Janna and Nami.
Kravixman (EUNE)
: Sure whatever sir.
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=00010000000000000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-23T12:54:31.481+0000) > > Sure whatever sir. Such a close minded individual. Take a look at reddit here. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/a9or7q/hardest_support_champ_to_play/?sort=new It's fine if you like playing easier champions but don't come at me with that BS.
Kravixman (EUNE)
: Nope, Thresh is made to look like the hardest support (LOL, I would say Leona is harder since you have to calculate danger before engage, not jus hook 24/7. But its just an opinion, and you don't have to feel that your Thresh is threatenet. Same like I have to listen 24/7 that Yuumi is poro-crap champion). And Its not about hooks but rest of his kit, keeping you in place for 24 hours like Morgana Q, but with more jumping, knocking, damaging nad bias R. Its not a skill when your hook has like 85-90% to give a kill in early, its low job, high reward ability. :)
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=000100000000000000020000,timestamp=2019-08-23T06:00:45.525+0000) > > Nope, Thresh is made to look like the hardest support (LOL, I would say Leona is harder since you have to calculate danger before engage, not jus hook 24/7. But its just an opinion, and you don't have to feel that your Thresh is threatenet. Same like I have to listen 24/7 that Yuumi is poro-crap champion). And Its not about hooks but rest of his kit, keeping you in place for 24 hours like Morgana Q, but with more jumping, knocking, damaging nad bias R. > > Its not a skill when your hook has like 85-90% to give a kill in early, its low job, high reward ability. :) No,Thresh is not made to look like the hardest support,it's actually the hardest support cause of everything you can do with him. And I'm not the only one saying this,pretty much ask any high elo player what's the hardest support or take a look around YT and google. If you think Thresh is only about hooking 24/7 then you've probably never played him or played him at a very low level. You just can't dodge skillshots,admit it. You're awful at the game. Thresh Q is really easy to dodge. Especially if you have good positioning. Skillshot champions should be rewarded when you hit their skillshots. Cause if you nerf their skillshots then there's pretty much no reward when you hit them,it's dumb. Yuumi is one of the dumbest champions in the game,I'll explain you why,even though I feel like it's a waste of time. She can poke you on lane while getting no harrass whatsoever,now it's not as oppresive as when she was released but it's still dogshit to play against. Really UNFUN to play against. Like,what other champion has the ability to poke while not being able to be poked? How is this fair? It's dumb champion design. And how exactly is Leona harder to play than Thresh btw? She is extremely tanky and all she has to do is go in lol. I've played Leona when I started playing support and she's WAY EASIER than Thresh. All you have to do vs hook champions is dodge their hook,it's pretty easy. Pick Brand/Zyra,stand behind minions and learn how to land skillshots and dodge them.
Kravixman (EUNE)
: You don't even know my issue, yet you assume that Im Copper XIX division that can't dodge a simple minded Thresh with Generic_Rush_boots5_build.com. Yeah... your second sentence makes me to ignore you, as you simple just hate something that's unique and your lower back hurts that you just can't "Rengar" her like every other champs (Sine even support expcet in this game to kill 24/7)
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-23T06:02:48.791+0000) > > You don't even know my issue, yet you assume that Im Copper XIX division that can't dodge a simple minded Thresh with Generic_Rush_boots5_build.com. > > Yeah... your second sentence makes me to ignore you, as you simple just hate something that's unique and your lower back hurts that you just can't "Rengar" her like every other champs (Sine even support expcet in this game to kill 24/7) Yuumi is not played in my games cause I ban her 100%. And you're wrong,you can beat a hook lane,you just have to dodge the hook. From what you're writing,you probably cant dodge for shtt. All you need is proper positioning and know what you're doing. Cancer champs are those that while having to risk nothing at all get a huge reward and expect the adc to carry them,pretty much any support that uses the ardent censer. What do you mean by "Rengar" them?lol Do you know hook supports are usually built on utility and don't deal pretty much any damage in mid/late game. They are just there for the CC and trying to get the team ahead early. Your playstyle is boring AF.
Eagl (EUW)
: ADC is a dead role ?
It's definetely not fun to play adc vs a fed assassin/burst mage
Kravixman (EUNE)
: I play League for several years already... and honestly, in my last 5 years of playing, I have never played the following Champions: **MID:** {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:142}} **TOP:** {{champion:92}} {{champion:23}} **SUPPORT:** {{champion:53}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:89}} I find those mentioned champions a true aspect of cancer that ruins this game by their mechanics... If Blitz, Pyke and Thresh hooks were similar to Naut (no wall crossing) I would remove them from list.
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-22T10:03:01.449+0000) > > I play League for several years already... and honestly, in my last 5 years of playing, I have never played the following Champions: > **MID:** {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:142}} > **TOP:** {{champion:92}} {{champion:23}} > **SUPPORT:** {{champion:53}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:89}} > > I find those mentioned champions a true aspect of cancer that ruins this game by their mechanics... If Blitz, Pyke and Thresh hooks were similar to Naut (no wall crossing) I would remove them from list. Thresh is the hardest support to play btw. Learn to dodge skillshots and you'll be good. To me it's more cancer playing vs a %%%%ing shield/heal support that have pretty much no mechanics or skillshots. Let us skillful players play the skillshots champions. You can stay with your Yuumi,Soraka,Nami,Janna,Lulu.
Kravixman (EUNE)
: Dude... I would go for a pile of Cocain also. I play support since forever, just not the MAIN trio-of-cancer (Blitz, Pyke, Thresh) and my life is sad... when they always compare my Normal supports to those 3 mentioned.
> [{quoted}](name=Kravixman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yINReZJ5,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-22T08:41:21.925+0000) > > Dude... I would go for a pile of Cocain also. > > I play support since forever, just not the MAIN trio-of-cancer (Blitz, Pyke, Thresh) and my life is sad... when they always compare my Normal supports to those 3 mentioned. You play mainly Swain and Yuumi as support. You play a champion who's not designed to be played as a support and expect to do fine vs a hook support? And then you also play the most horrendous champion design Riot has ever released,the %%%%ing cat,which can not be targetted and still has oppresing laning phase. Get out of here!
: matchmaking System cant be fixed the matchmaking System works "fine", now the people is diferent, win/loose isn't enought to evaluate a player, In teory matchmaking is fine, but people don't know how to play the game, they dont play safe, they go 1v5 and blame others, and recently there is a lot of smurfs, matchmaking is hard be diferent, You can't evaluate a player by KDA, you only can evaluate mostly by win/lose ratio, but win/lose ration dont care if player got carried all games, you lost game you lose mmr you win game you wim mmr, no matter if you feed or you win 1v9 you will always get mmr. There no way to know a diference betwen a good and bad player just by winrate.
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=kWdOXuyx,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T17:26:07.770+0000) > > matchmaking System cant be fixed the matchmaking System works "fine", now the people is diferent, win/loose isn't enought to evaluate a player, > In teory matchmaking is fine, but people don't know how to play the game, they dont play safe, they go 1v5 and blame others, and recently there is a lot of smurfs, matchmaking is hard be diferent, You can't evaluate a player by KDA, you only can evaluate mostly by win/lose ratio, but win/lose ration dont care if player got carried all games, you lost game you lose mmr you win game you wim mmr, no matter if you feed or you win 1v9 you will always get mmr. > There no way to know a diference betwen a good and bad player just by winrate. There's clearly no difference between a 400 game 45% WR Bronze II player and a 400 game 55% WR Diamond II player. You can actually tell if a player is good or bad by winrate,but you need a good amount of games to do so.
: So how much money u want riot?
So people pay for a boost and you call it pay to win? What? If those people keep playing,they'll eventually drop. If they buy the boost at the end of the season then fair enough. In any case,problem is of the people who buy the boost. If there's no buyers,there wont be any boosters. Blame it on the people,not on Riot wth. You should play Lineage II,so you know what really is Pay2Win or any mobile game for that matter,then you will know.
: > [{quoted}](name= Rhaykko,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=00040002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T12:54:15.302+0000) > > You have 250 games with a 45% WR playing a lot of champions you say you're good at,which is false cause you wouldnt have negative winrate on them if you were remotely good at them. > > And yes supports can solo carry games,even utility supports. I don't know where you get this from,probably because you are stuck and keep blaming it on your team all the time. > > All I read are excuses to not even try to carry. If you want to improve,shut your mouth and stop pretending like you know a lot. > > Edit: Here,proof that support can solo carry. MAIN SUPPORT RANK 2 EUW WITH A 74% WR > > https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Doss+The+Boss winrate proves nothing how good u r. it only shows how good your team is if u really wan prove something with stats then link KDA. i can give u unlimited game where ppl with a score of 20-0-20 lose. your the one making excuses by posting a challenger profile. wanna show me real proof? then show me an account who lvled this season from iron V to challenger with only utility suports. oh wait, u can't. cause its not possible anymore and everyone actually playing in low elo will say i'm right. and no i'm not hard stuck, i just switched to flex cause i got bored of duo smurf queue.
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=000400020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T14:22:11.933+0000) > > winrate proves nothing how good u r. it only shows how good your team is if u really wan prove something with stats then link KDA. i can give u unlimited game where ppl with a score of 20-0-20 lose. > > your the one making excuses by posting a challenger profile. wanna show me real proof? > then show me an account who lvled this season from iron V to challenger with only utility suports. oh wait, u can't. cause its not possible anymore and everyone actually playing in low elo will say i'm right. > > and no i'm not hard stuck, i just switched to flex cause i got bored of duo smurf queue. You're full of BS. KDA doesn't win games,killing the nexus does.
: noone can easily adapt and play "tens" of champions, not to say 20 diferent champions. I dont know how this works on low elo, but on high elo people only play few champs with which they know everything.
> [{quoted}](name=HamiltionjFrEiG,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-08-07T08:56:35.705+0000) > > noone can easily adapt and play "tens" of champions, not to say 20 diferent champions. I dont know how this works on low elo, but on high elo people only play few champs with which they know everything. Let him be,he's better than the OTP challenger players. He's such a delusional player.
: > [{quoted}](name= Rhaykko,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=000400020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-10T18:47:49.443+0000) > > Are you dumb? Challenger players make smurf accounts all the time and get to Diamond with an insane winrate usually. Wtf are you talking about? > > I play solo support and I can carry to Diamond. > > If you're talking about specific games where every other lane feeds their ass off,carry potential diminishes but not every game is like this. Being able to carry doesnt mean you will win everygame. If you know what you're doing you will climb. Even as utility support. Shut your goddamn mouth and learn the game instead of complaining so much. thx for proving that your actually the one beeing dumb. i said they can't solo carry games not that they can't climb. and those specific games u mention happen 8 out of 10 in low elo. and again learn some manners kid, u should have been 10x banned already for that behaviour.
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=0004000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T08:55:40.573+0000) > > thx for proving that your actually the one beeing dumb. > > i said they can't solo carry games not that they can't climb. > > and those specific games u mention happen 8 out of 10 in low elo. > > and again learn some manners kid, u should have been 10x banned already for that behaviour. You have 250 games with a 45% WR playing a lot of champions you say you're good at,which is false cause you wouldnt have negative winrate on them if you were remotely good at them. And yes supports can solo carry games,even utility supports. I don't know where you get this from,probably because you are stuck and keep blaming it on your team all the time. All I read are excuses to not even try to carry. If you want to improve,shut your mouth and stop pretending like you know a lot. Edit: Here,proof that support can solo carry. MAIN SUPPORT RANK 2 EUW WITH A 74% WR https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Doss+The+Boss
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name= Rhaykko,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=0004000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-10T11:52:11.032+0000) > > I guess everyone who's got high elo is just lucky with their team. Season 9 and we still have to read this. > > You come here trying to coach when you clearly are clueless,what a joke. your the joke, even challenger players say they can't carry themself out low elo anymore cause of the bad team. and pls inlighten me how u carry as support of both your top/mid/jungle go 0-8 in 10 min.
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=00040002000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-10T16:45:20.254+0000) > > your the joke, even challenger players say they can't carry themself out low elo anymore cause of the bad team. > > and pls inlighten me how u carry as support of both your top/mid/jungle go 0-8 in 10 min. Are you dumb? Challenger players make smurf accounts all the time and get to Diamond with an insane winrate usually. Wtf are you talking about? I play solo support and I can carry to Diamond. If you're talking about specific games where every other lane feeds their ass off,carry potential diminishes but not every game is like this. Being able to carry doesnt mean you will win everygame. If you know what you're doing you will climb. Even as utility support. Shut your goddamn mouth and learn the game instead of complaining so much.
: > [{quoted}](name= Rhaykko,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2019-08-09T22:25:15.015+0000) > > https://euw.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=Whats%20Supp%20Doc > > It clearly is working for you when in your most 10 played champions,you have negative WR on 8 of them. > > Shut the hell up... maybe thats because win rate only shows how good your team is. it has nothing to do with your individual skill. go back to school and learn some manners kid.
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=000400020000,timestamp=2019-08-10T08:22:35.319+0000) > > maybe thats because win rate only shows how good your team is. > it has nothing to do with your individual skill. > > go back to school and learn some manners kid. I guess everyone who's got high elo is just lucky with their team. Season 9 and we still have to read this. You come here trying to coach when you clearly are clueless,what a joke.
: maybe some ppl rn't one trick pony's like all the idiots out there and actually know how to play more then 1 champ and make picks according to their matchup and what the team needs. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-07T07:56:03.163+0000) > > maybe some ppl rn't one trick pony's like all the idiots out there and actually know how to play more then 1 champ and make picks according to their matchup and what the team needs. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} https://euw.op.gg/summoner/champions/userName=Whats%20Supp%20Doc It clearly is working for you when in your most 10 played champions,you have negative WR on 8 of them. Shut the hell up...
: you are putting this in the wrong context. when i made my point, i wasn't expecting you to compare different skill levels. we are talking about the champions, not the win rate of the player. if the sej has 50% in 20games, and xin has 50%win rate in 20 games, and the circumstances were exactly the same, then what would you prefer. also, i have 5 years of experience on this game. me being bronze has nothing to do with it. i just hate playing ranked because of the toxicity, so i didn't want to climb
> [{quoted}](name=legacy dude,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-07T20:37:12.422+0000) > > you are putting this in the wrong context. when i made my point, i wasn't expecting you to compare different skill levels. we are talking about the champions, not the win rate of the player. if the sej has 50% in 20games, and xin has 50%win rate in 20 games, and the circumstances were exactly the same, then what would you prefer. > > also, i have 5 years of experience on this game. me being bronze has nothing to do with it. i just hate playing ranked because of the toxicity, so i didn't want to climb Obviously I'd prefer Sejuani if it fits better the teamcomp. But i wouldnt dodge if Xin Zhao was picked.
Qweenie (EUW)
: Supports cannot carry the game
Anyone who says:"Supports cant carry the game" should check who's rank 1 on EUW right now.
: What's the difference between losing a game by having one guy run it down in promos compared to not in promos? They both feel as bad as each other, you still lose the game. Back in season 1 and 2, it used to be an ELO system where you would see a set number and it just goes up and down based on wins or losses. Riot got feedback from that system, people found it boring, so they evolved it into the current system which people prefer. Taking away the promos makes it more or less the same as the ELO system, just with smaller numbers
> [{quoted}](name=Whips N Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ld8gcLvX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-07T17:48:34.790+0000) > > What's the difference between losing a game by having one guy run it down in promos compared to not in promos? They both feel as bad as each other, you still lose the game. Which is why promo games shouldnt have more value than any other ranked games. Promos should have never existed,every game in a ranked environment should matter the same. Cause then you get the scenarios where people who arent in promos don't try as hard and those in promos feel like those games matter more. I don't think it should be like this.
Kubajz (EUW)
: How do you know? You are generalizing the whole community here. Im here since Season 1, thats eight years and through that time I had enough experience to properly touch every single champion. Whenever I go Summoners Rift, I play "Fill" only because I legit can play +-80% of all champions on decent level, enough to do well in lane and not destroy the game for my teammates.
> [{quoted}](name=Kubajz,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-07T09:37:22.718+0000) > > How do you know? You are generalizing the whole community here. Im here since Season 1, thats eight years and through that time I had enough experience to properly touch every single champion. Whenever I go Summoners Rift, I play "Fill" only because I legit can play +-80% of all champions on decent level, enough to do well in lane and not destroy the game for my teammates. Then you should make comments on your main account to see if that's true,or just send the opgg.
: maybe some ppl rn't one trick pony's like all the idiots out there and actually know how to play more then 1 champ and make picks according to their matchup and what the team needs. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
> [{quoted}](name=Whats Supp Doc,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JEuVwvPf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-07T07:56:03.163+0000) > > maybe some ppl rn't one trick pony's like all the idiots out there and actually know how to play more then 1 champ and make picks according to their matchup and what the team needs. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Yeah let's pick a champion I've never played before because it fits better in the team comp. You're putting yourself and your team in disadvantage doing that. Most people can't pull this off,that's why most people stick to a couple champions and main a role. Try putting an attacker in football as a defender,or put a midfielder as the goalkeeper. See what happens.
: Well ty for replying to my positive comment with some salty negative unwanted comment. Not saying i haven't lost games where i've pentad, but the majority i win.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=f0fizqqG,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-04T18:49:54.607+0000) > > Well ty for replying to my positive comment with some salty negative unwanted comment. > > Not saying i haven't lost games where i've pentad, but the majority i win. And that's great man,I'm not hating on you nor I am salty! I've been in games where one of my team-mates got a penta and we still lost the game,and it happened the other way around as well. Getting many pentas does not mean you are good at the game,since League is a macro game,a decision-making game. If you are insanely good mechanically but you make all the wrong decisions,guess what...you're gonna lose more than you win.It's how the game works....also I've seen players undeservedly getting pentas(not saying it's you!!!) like last hitting all 5 enemy champions. I've handed in a silver plate pentas to my adc with insane peel and pretty much the pentakiller gets all the credit for it. There were other times where the adc I had made pretty much the penta by him/herself,which is great. Just be aware that pentas don't win games,killing nexus do.
: My favourite memory was my first pentakill in season 7, it was a sign that i was finally improving and lead to me getting 20 pentakills in that season alone.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=f0fizqqG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-04T18:41:11.536+0000) > > My favourite memory was my first pentakill in season 7, it was a sign that i was finally improving and lead to me getting 20 pentakills in that season alone. This isn't Call of Duty or Counter Strike where if you kill the whole enemy team,you win. What makes you improve is killing more nexus than you lose. But i won't say Pentakills aren't satisfying,even if I'm a support main for 4 years. It still doesn't mean you improved at the game though.
rooRoooo (EUW)
: Is it possible to emerge from gold by playing support?
You can pretty much get any champion to high elo. I'm pretty much a Thresh soloQ OTP and atm I'm D3. There are other main thresh players who are GM/Challenger so it's definetely possible.
: Yeah. It kind of annoyed me realising I had to buy 20 champs before I could play ranked. I saved almost all my BE, having only bought 2 champs at full price (Kindred/Sejuani) during the 30 level climb, but even if buying the cheapest champs with the shards I'd collected I still couldn't reach that 20 mark. Goes to show just how stingy they are with BE and champ shards. Obviously it's a f2p game and they want you to fork over a little money for the convenience but it's still a bit of a kick in the teeth. I think a better barrier to entry would be to require maybe 10-15 champs and 100 normal PvP games. Something like that. Maybe requiring at least 10 Normal PvP games with a champ before you can use them in ranked.
> [{quoted}](name=OldPirates,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=d1EjsnXr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-03T13:27:29.392+0000) > > Yeah. It kind of annoyed me realising I had to buy 20 champs before I could play ranked. > I saved almost all my BE, having only bought 2 champs at full price (Kindred/Sejuani) during the 30 level climb, but even if buying the cheapest champs with the shards I'd collected I still couldn't reach that 20 mark. Goes to show just how stingy they are with BE and champ shards. > > Obviously it's a f2p game and they want you to fork over a little money for the convenience but it's still a bit of a kick in the teeth. > > I think a better barrier to entry would be to require maybe 10-15 champs and 100 normal PvP games. Something like that. Maybe requiring at least 10 Normal PvP games with a champ before you can use them in ranked. It's 20 champions required for a reason. 10 bans + 10 picks,that's why it's the minimum. Imagine you have 19 champions,10 of those get banned and you are last pick. All your enemies pick the rest of your 9 champs,what do you play now? The minimum is 20 because if it was lower you wouldnt be able to play in case this happened. Before it was 16 because you had 3 bans on each team and 10 picks overall.
: The matchmaking solution how to get better teams
: tfw you stomp a p1-d4 duo after they trash talk you for being gold
Definetely! If you are Challenger,it doesn't mean you're skillful! What did you smoke?
Gabresol (EUW)
: Botlaners should loose more LP and gain less
Why don't you just remove botlane from the game then? Do you really think anyone would be playing botlane(adc or support) if they lose more lp and gain less lp? You're a {{champion:35}}
: Why playing this game feels terrible sometimes (my opinion, propably unpopular because im stupid)
If it's normal games then yeah,let's have fun while not caring if we lose or win. But when it comes to ranked I have to disagree. You should join ranked games with the intention to win. While sportmanship is also important in ranked,I see a lot of people who give up in ranked just because:" hey it's a game,just have fun" Yeah it's a game,we are supposed to have fun yeah...but it's also a competitive environment and winning should be the #1 priority
: so what he's silver 3 ? Doesn't mean he's %%%%%%ed, mr plat 1 , you ain't high elo unless you're high diamond, so get off your high horse : 3
Says a gold 4 player,wtf. Even if he didnt advise nicely,it's still an useful advice. And he was D1 in S6.
2XAX2 (EUNE)
: Ranked
Silver is the average rank,so you're fine for your first 2 months. I'd suggest you to practice the hell out of vayne before bringing her into ranked
2PRO4MEM8 (EUW)
: But sadly its like that. Look at yourself you are d3 with over 7 average death. You are the best example. I even played against you and remembered you were that free https://i.gyazo.com/3f180fbd314aae5f71f195bdc5c451f5.png
You are the type of player any sane low diamond player should dodge,first timing poppy in ranked. When you play random champions in ranked you haven't played before and lose 3 times in a row with them,you don't have any rights to complain. While it's true sometimes luck helps you climb,it's not something you should rely on. If i saw you pick poppy jungle in champ select I'd dodge you cause you are trolling making the game harder for yourself and your team. I think you're trolling here aswell or maybe you're that delusional.
2PRO4MEM8 (EUW)
: you dont have to be good, you have to be lucky with teammates. You can be bad and reach diamond.
And this is the mentality you don't want to have in ranked.
: Maybe. Just ... I get Jax players in my team. They build Triforce in EVERY match-up. Even tho it doesn't work in EVERY match-up. It seems that people don't build resistances anymore.
Do you not have to go triforce with Jax every game? It seems like one of his core items
: Why the %%%% is this game so unplayable now.
: Pre lobby trols. No punishment options.
You couldn't have come up with a better analogy. You got my like. Amen,brother.
: Are there big differences in skill at bronze and silver?
These games now are slightly harder to win. The higher you go,the harder it becomes. But I wouldn't say there are any MAJOR changes. Good luck in your ranked games!
: But it pointless, think about it you can 1v2 with darius or nasus in late game too and darius are so strong in early game compare to jax and now both of the champ have same function in late game which is split push but darius can play around early, mid, and late game and it also little bit better than jax in teamfight due to his Q AOE dmg, self healing and Ult that can easily get penta if he kill one of the enermy champ.
Darius is very easy to kite,and so is Nasus. If enemy team is peeling their backline,you just get blown up and chain cced. Jax has a gap-closer,darius and Nasus don't. They have to get in your face. And Jax late game is one of the strongests in the game
: I cannot convince my team to focus objectives?
If you are spam pinging it and/or typing it and they don't listen,just don't go for it. I main Thresh support and I've been low elo before and I know exactly what you mean(even in Diamond happens sometimes,rarely but it does) Just go tor towers,and try to peel your carries or blow up one of the enemy carries/squishies with a combo. As long as you have consistency,you will climb
Rioter Comments
: Let's fix it a little bit, Better Botlane "CHAMPIONS" wins You gonna tell me that a good Draven with a good Sona gonna win against a MF and a Lux ? Nah, Because Lux can Q E R kill Draven.
> [{quoted}](name=ZiproKillxD,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=95EEBEVy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-24T22:47:09.681+0000) > > Let's fix it a little bit, > Better > Botlane > "CHAMPIONS" > wins > You gonna tell me that a good Draven with a good Sona gonna win against a MF and a Lux ? Nah, Because Lux can Q E R kill Draven. All Draven has to do is flash Lux Q and she's dead
Backstard (EUNE)
: I will blame everything on Riot as long as a keep getting trash in my teams. Just won a 4vs5 game the troll left the game at level 2. This is the 5th game in a row that someone in my team leaves only this time i won but i lost 4 games cause of that. The matchmaking is RIGGED and ranked games are SOLD
> [{quoted}](name=Backstard,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Faoe2HHt,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-25T17:09:44.909+0000) > > I will blame everything on Riot as long as a keep getting trash in my teams. > Just won a 4vs5 game the troll left the game at level 2. > This is the 5th game in a row that someone in my team leaves only this time i won but i lost 4 games cause of that. > The matchmaking is RIGGED and ranked games are SOLD I guess the support item bugged and you couldn't buy it either,right? I don't think you care about winning games,you want to protect the kda. That's fine but don't come whining if you don't climb. You can't expect to climb if you always go for the safe plays. You have to be a troll,how are the ranked games rigged? Jeez...
SayDaddy (EUW)
: why my play skills never get better
It doesn't matter how much time you spend if you don't use it correctly. For example,if you are a worker at McDonalds and don't save your money and you don't invest in anything,don't be surprised if you're stuck working there. You're just autopiloting without going beyond. Same happens with league. If you autopilot,you'll never learn. Take a break after a few games,go watch some videos and then come back later when you are feeling better and detilted. Spamming games won't help you climb if you are on a losing streak and tilted. I'm really far from being a great player,but here's my tips for you. 1 - Choose 1 or 2 champions you enjoy and climb with them. Your microgame on them will improve with practice and you'll be pretty damn good at the champ. From my experience,I got to Plat only with this. 2 - Macrogame.Watch your own replays and if you cant figure out what have you done wrong,ask for coaching,it does help. Imo it's one of the hardest things in the game. Decision-making can make you win more games than mechanics can. 3 - Mentality. Yes,sometimes your team will feed, sometimes YOU yourself will feed. We've all had very frustrating losing games,losing streaks...it happens. Take a break from the game,a few hours,days,weeks...whatever you need. Reset mental and then go for it again. To sum up,I think you need all these 3 things to be a good player. Microgame. Macrogame. Mentality. Mentality > Macrogame > Microgame Hope it helps you man!
: Pretty much this ^
> [{quoted}](name=Dreadlord Mike,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=701JdUME,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T16:13:57.684+0000) > > Pretty much this You forgot toplane but yeah,pretty much that.
: I just checked the EUW Top 20 Challenger players and they consist of 1 Toplaner 7 Adcs 4 Junglers 6 Midlaners and 2 Supports so i really wanna know what your talking about when you say that all top players are toplaners. By far it's the worst role to carry up looking at that example :)
> [{quoted}](name=PaG VentusKing,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=701JdUME,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T15:29:23.316+0000) > > I just checked the EUW Top 20 Challenger players and they consist of 1 Toplaner 7 Adcs 4 Junglers 6 Midlaners and 2 Supports so i really wanna know what your talking about when you say that all top players are toplaners. By far it's the worst role to carry up looking at that example :) You don't even read what I'm typing and you interpret it how you want. Sad. "highest" ranked players does NOT mean ALL TOP PLAYERS. And no,you didn't even bother to look top 20 EUW.Take a look. https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Blomster+Finn Toplaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SK+Jenax Toplaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=MagiFelix Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=BTL+Decay Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=MSF+Hans+Sama+01 Adc https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lugerr Adc https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=G2+Jerkz Jungler https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=FB+Agurin Jungler https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Jebsu+1v9 Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=G2H+Lamabear Jungler https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=VIT+Toaster Adc https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Rekkles Adc https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sk%C3%ABanz Jungler https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Doss+The+Boss Support https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Mementooo Jungler https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=WE+CAN+W1N+ Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Uma+Jan Adc https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=the+inescapable Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Envy+Carry Midlaner https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Innaxe+v2 Adc 2 toplaners,6 midlaners,6 adcs,5 junglers,1 support
: Top lane is just the most useless lane the more close you get to master...
> [{quoted}](name=FTNA DeathLess,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=701JdUME,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2019-06-25T04:43:34.766+0000) > > Top lane is just the most useless lane the more close you get to master... Yeah I guess that's why the highest ranked players in servers are usually toplaners,because it's the less impactful role in the game. Get out of here. Fed Irelia/Jax/Riven vs ANY fed adc,they %%%%ing destroy them,even when 2v1 with their supp there. It's ridiculous.
: Sure, but how can you determine that's a smurf and not just a good player for his first season. Like I said, my friend on his first season playing got to diamond. He had an 80% win rate through bronze, silver, gold and a 70% win rate through plat. He was accused of smurfing. Are you saying he should just not be allowed to play the game because he's good?
> [{quoted}](name=FireChicken,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hgF3isxm,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T00:57:47.081+0000) > > Sure, but how can you determine that's a smurf and not just a good player for his first season. Like I said, my friend on his first season playing got to diamond. He had an 80% win rate through bronze, silver, gold and a 70% win rate through plat. He was accused of smurfing. Are you saying he should just not be allowed to play the game because he's good? Damn your friend is good! Player on his first season gets Diamond with a 70% wr. Would you kindly link his op.gg?
Backstard (EUNE)
: Matchmaking Mechanics
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