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: Yeah. Whatever, I just thought it made more sense to have a system that goes *crescendo*. First you get the chat restriction and then you get the ranked restriction. Like, yeah if you still get reported while being chat restricted, makes sense to prevent the ranked games. I think it's wrong to consider that players' behavior in draft and ranked are the same. That's why I made my whole post. Since it's a temporary solution, they may not want to put too much time into it tho. It's simpler to analyze the whole chat logs without distinguishing them and restrict ranked at the same time as the chat. The chat restriction in ranked games would already serve a nice purpose. Anyways, can't hope to see this change. I'll just serve my sentence and feed the chat with more positive text so that the system doesn't think I'm a psychopath.
All right. Thanks for info. Any way to submit the idea of *crescendo restriction* to Riot? I mean, now that I'm fully up-to-date regarding the system... I still don't know my way around this forum since I've ever posted before and you seem to be a regular user (?).
Shiwah (EUW)
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Fine, I should just have given my ideas without any feedback on how things went for me.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Yeah. Whatever, I just thought it made more sense to have a system that goes *crescendo*. First you get the chat restriction and then you get the ranked restriction. Like, yeah if you still get reported while being chat restricted, makes sense to prevent the ranked games. I think it's wrong to consider that players' behavior in draft and ranked are the same. That's why I made my whole post. Since it's a temporary solution, they may not want to put too much time into it tho. It's simpler to analyze the whole chat logs without distinguishing them and restrict ranked at the same time as the chat. The chat restriction in ranked games would already serve a nice purpose. Anyways, can't hope to see this change. I'll just serve my sentence and feed the chat with more positive text so that the system doesn't think I'm a psychopath.
Kageryu (EUW)
: Of course i question that fact, this is the internet. But that still has nothing to do with me supposedly " you just presume me guilty", which i did not do. And why did i doubt it? Because you did make a lenghty post without checking the facts first working off "experience". When someone is a software engineer i automatically assume you inform yourself properly before tackling a "problem". Thats why i doubted it.
Here's what I read before writing my post : http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1875424. I still can't see how this has anything to do with my suggestions. My suggestions are about making something coherent. From my experience as a banned player, I can tell that I don't derserve to be crossed off ranked because I do not talk in ranked when things go south. I can deserve the chat ban not the ranked ban.
Kageryu (EUW)
: > you know there's one thing in justice called "presumed innocent" - you just presume me guilty ;) Interesting. Please point out where i said you are an evil being from hell? Because all i did is saying that the base of your argument is utterly false. I have said nothing about a possible guilt of yours. This is about your suggestions after all.
Dude, you just questioned the fact that I'm a software engineer, please.. ;) Anyway, about the suggestions, I don't see how the system and my suggestions can't fit together.
Kageryu (EUW)
: But you did inform yourself soooooooo well...... Anyways: > **Indeed there are times I deserve a report, but considering the number of times I meet flamers who don't get banned cuz they are premade and just outnumber me... Then I report them but considering how Riot's system work, I'm sure my reports don't count.** > > All this to say that I disagree with the ranked restriction while chat restricted. I don't care about the chat restriction, but why close ranked games when someone got reported in draft ? Doesn't make sense. The way I see it : > > Get reported a number of times in ranked => Ranked restricted > Get reported a number of times in blind or draft => Overall chat restriction Lets start with the basic stuff, sice i actually watch a stream right now and don´t want to invest too much time: 1. Reports are not counted as "reported x times" its more "reported in x Games" 2. Premade reports are lowered in value. Also #1 makes sure they don´t have more power than you. So the whole basis for your argument is already false. Shiwah has a big thread full of info´s and links that might help you further: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/p4K3GvO0-the-chat-restriction-system-explained-link-heavy
Easily answered : 1. Reported in x games IMPLIES reported x times. I didn't go into this level of detail. 2. See the edit of my previous comment. How does any of this make impair my ideas ? Edit : you know there's one thing in justice called "presumed innocent" - you just presume me guilty ;)
Kageryu (EUW)
: Considering that you use ALOT of wrong info, i highly doubt it. You have no clue about the system.
Then enlighten me instead of babbling about how wrong I am. I have read for instance that if a player and his friends report someone, system should not take it into account. However, every time I had troubles with premades I got a warning after. Experience VERSUS Theory.
Shiwah (EUW)
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"They're not there for ornamental purposes."
: When I need your mistaken oppinion on some subject I'll call you babe. In the mean time go back to school.
You look like the perfect prototype of the flamer, actually.
Kageryu (EUW)
: Problem is: this is not a software problem, its a behaviour and therefore psychological problem. Also if you really were a software engineer, you would have informed yourself before making guesses on how the system works.
I did. Or maybe there's another link for me to read, feel free to add constructive linking... Just love how people think they are great beings and just keep taking others for dumbasses.
Shiwah (EUW)
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I did read how the system works, can't see how my improvements aren't suitable.
: 3rd restriction - ideas for improving the banning system
That's constructive indeed. There is a point when I can't be the nice guy that teaches others AND the nice guy that accepts to be flamed at with no answer. Every system can be in need of improvement, anyway. I'm a software engineer, I find solutions.
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