: Do I get all skins if I go to PBE?
If you see a gold Riot icon around where your RP–BE balances are, then they’re part of the League Partner Programme. If you don’t, they probably just unlocked all of them manually.
FireofDes (EUW)
: Tbf if Riot actually took the time to engage with the community and let us know whats going on for a change, all these posts probably wouldn't exist...
Indeed, radio silence should be the last thing.
Rioter Comments
: Doesnt explain all the issues for the past week or two.
No point in crying over spilled milk. Unless you’re Max Caulfield the past is the past.
Blakex13x (EUW)
: yet a lot more issues xD
Can y’all just please read the other bloody discussions?! It’s a problem with [Cloudflare](https://www.cloudflarestatus.com). Discord is also experiencing [partial outage](https://status.discordapp.com/).
: MY IDEA FOR NEW LUX SKIN
Ahri and Ezreal don’t have enough skins either. We need 3 skins for them annually instead of 1!
Etherim (EUW)
: BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY BTW
My favourite part ~~was ~~is when I can’t log in.
Mrkitt (EUW)
: TFT Queue Times? Whats yours? (poll)
On EUW my average queue time is less than a minute.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Revert the logo change.
If it ain't broken don't fix it. I'm sure not everybody will recognise just the fist alone, including myself.
: _20 seconds later_? that seems a little on the speedy side - you sure it wasn't from another report you issued?
I can see it happening if this was the very last straw after having received numerous reports.
: Will a EUNE LoL giftcard worek in eu west
According to [support article](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201753354), any prepaid RP card can be used on either European server. So yes, it should work on whichever EU server you activate it.
SHANi BD (EUW)
: Riots. Behaviour. Not. Players behaviour.
You most likely requested a chargeback. You first gave Riot money for RP, then reversed the transaction to return the funds. Until you give it back to them your account remains suspended. If you didn't do it then contact your bank. All Riot knows is that the money is not received for what they gave you. Don't take your anger out on the support, it's not their fault.
: Flamed for one game, got permanently banned.
>And because of this one cuss word, they decide to permanently punish me? I'll just leave these here for you. >iMissQaIot: how the fk did I suddenly end up with you morons... wtf iMissQaIot: our botlane? sleep iMissQaIot: nice support you got there iMissQaIot: Leona, you %%%%%% iMissQaIot: leona you %%%%%%ed inbred, use your wards bro. It's for free. iMissQaIot: look at the vision score, you have lowest vision as a support. how? iMissQaIot: Leona has the lowest vision score, go figure xd iMissQaIot: cuz ur bronz iMissQaIot: thats why iMissQaIot: with that mindset you wuill always stay in bronz iMissQaIot: dont play ranked ok? iMissQaIot: yeye u2 iMissQaIot: bronzty iMissQaIot: report leona Post-Game iMissQaIot: leona reported iMissQaIot: worst support ive seen in 23 games iMissQaIot: lowest vision score, never follows thresh iMissQaIot: stay in bronz forever mate That's one word, alright. Go figure.
: Can't quite catch what's the issue
You mean the RP prices? They are skin + champion in RP. For example, Arcade MF skin + MF (champion) = total. 1350 + 790 = 2140
Xiloriath (EUW)
: The main thing is though that although winding the enemy team up may not be the nicest of things. Should it be a punishable offence? In a ranked game it’s competitive environment where people should be trying to win. Its impossible for everyone to be happy and have fun in league. A team will always lose and people don’t want that. You can’t please everyone but you can punish those that truly deserve to be punished. You shouldn’t give the same treatment to someone who winds up the enemy by laughing everytime they fail to someone who blatantly spews racism.
I'm pretty sure you don't get punished for just laughing? Either way, if you're playing ranked then you might want to pay attention to the game not the chat. Just when driving, you should watch the road not your phone. Constant vigilance should be key, but what do I know.
Xiloriath (EUW)
: You say a sport should match people’s skills however no competitive sport is purely skill. The mental side of it is always there. In league people can be emotionally influenced by their own gameplay but also the gameplay of their teammates. Their mental fortitude is part of their ability as a player. Nobody can say anything and you’re still going to be influenced by something it’s how you deal with it that matters. A lot of sport players try and get in the heads of their opponents. It’s them trying to gain an advantage. At the end of the day it’s about winning. No sport is 100% sportsmanlike otherwise it wouldn’t be enjoyable at all. In terms of subjectiveness of course it is however isn’t the whole report function subjective? It’s based on players report habits to determine what is acceptable and not within the community. Each player is going to be different as if someone is tilted no matter who caused it they will get offended at the slightest thing. You shouldn’t punish someone who perhaps is trying to help but is due to time constraint in a game can’t type out paragraph after paragraph. Their comments then can be construed in a multiple different ways. Those that are tilted may see their attempt at help rather patronising or may take it as sarcastic. You can’t convey tone easily via text. Your mate dives level 2 you call him a noob. A stranger does the same and you call him a noob all of a sudden you’re getting punished to basically the same degree as someone spouting racist comments.
There is a difference between passively winding someone up and actively doing so. It's entirely up to how they process their losing position, but don't pile on it by actively cheesing them off via chat. Say, yesterday, one of the games, the enemy team started asking us, "is this botgame?" because we were playing that bad. I would say it's not okay to say, but I guess you would say otherwise. To gain advantage in an online game use your skills not your words. Just because other sportsmen do it doesn't mean it's okay. They are not gods, they're humans just like that person you go past on the street. Not more or less. Perhaps your help's tone can't be conveyed through text, but there's most certainly a difference between "I recommend buying X item" and "wtf are you doing idiot" or just calling someone a noob. Calling people names has 0 contribution to the team and victory, I'll only want to get out of the game because apparently you don't like me and your behaviour won't get me to like you any better. >A stranger does the same and you call him a noob all of a sudden you’re getting punished to basically the same degree as someone spouting racist comments. Noob has universally become an offensive term which basically says, "you suck mate". May be true, may be not, but we are teammates and we are supposed to fight the **enemy**, _not with each other_. In a teamgame calling your teammates names is rather embarrassing. It's enough we are strangers matched up totally out of our control. We can spend the next 45 minutes together hating on each other or in peace. Racist and offensive terms like even noob have something in common: they are totally uncalled for and are not core part of the gameplay. But I'm sure calling people noobs has to become more habitual to get punished, not calling them so only one time.
Teery (EUW)
: Rotating game mode ideas (around Dominion)
I would actually be very happy if they enabled the classic Dominion once in a while. Crystal Scar had probably the best soundtrack. I am one of the few who don't care about Nexus Blitz. Just ew. I am an old school boy, gimme Dominion. Hide 'n' Seek would also be fun to play on the map.
Trem (EUW)
: Make Autofill an Option
If you want to play for fun, there's Blind Pick. Imho autofill is also useful to teach those who blame, say, the support for things and show them it's not all rainbows and unicorns. Perhaps they learnt from it next time they are about to blame the support again. For me, personally, I don't often get autofilled. Like, 3-4 times a month and I'm not exaggerating.
Xiloriath (EUW)
: Is the game flawed in terms of how they deal with negativity?
You know answer yourself; trash talking may affect one emotionally. I despise any form of it, no matter what sport, football or not, it's not okay to wind anyone up. It will cloud their mind and won't perform as well. A sport should match people's skills not their way of emotional influence. You are supposed to prove your skills, then use those skills to win the game. This is not WhatsApp. You don't get to say what you want (or you do, but there'll be consequences). Trash talk is simply not fundamental part of the game, I can most certainly live without it. >Abuse shouldn’t be tolerated but I don’t see how light trash talking is against the rules. It would draw a line no one would know when is crossed and when it's not. Light is a subjective term, people raised in / coming from different backgrounds would estimate "light" differently. What would be light for one could be toeing that line for the other. It would only cause even more bawling. Just because something is allowed somewhere else doesn't mean it's okay to do. Don't be one of those sad keyboard fighters.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: >No, I'm saying that once you go into a game, that means you agreed to devote ~40 minutes of your time to that game, true however that doesn't mean people **should** help with invades or leashes if they don't want to. There's no rule against sitting next to the tower and waiting for the minions to get to lane. it's a choice, not a rule, regardless if it's ranked or urf.
>however that doesn't mean people should help with invades or leashes if they don't want to. So basically helping your teammates is a question of politeness? 0:00 till end you are playing a teamgame (a game where you have a team). What's the point in "just" sitting when you have other people to help, regardless of time? I can build a tower in Minecraft then just sit next to it and I'm not even a waste space in a multiplayer game. If others have decided to commit time and energy to do their part, I don't see how a little "politeness" break you. It's sad some'd need a rule to cooperate.
: is account sharing now legal?
Account sharing is still a violation of the Terms of Use. “1. YOUR ACCOUNT” -> “1.4. Can I share or sell my account or login credentials? **(No.)**”: >“When you create an account with us, we require you to select a unique username and password (collectively, your “Login Credentials”), which you’ll use each time you access the Game. You can’t share your account or Login Credentials with anyone. You can’t sell, transfer or allow any other person to access your account or Login Credentials, or offer to do so. You’re entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Login Credentials. Please notify us immediately if you become aware of any breach of security, including any loss, theft or unauthorized disclosure of your Login Credentials.” Just because Heimer “thought”, “felt”, or “believed” personally that account sharing was free to do, that’s objectively not the case. Account sharing still violates the rules, and feel free to report them to Player Support. _Source: https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#section1_
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: I wish we had a simpler Client that isn't just eye candy :)
Right? I too have to switch between tabs before Hextech, his highness is willing to appear. Also, when I log in, the client loads the header like a thousand times before is finally stops! I swear, I’ve never seen that Blue Essence icon animation and sound make an appearance so many times! I don’t know, I didn’t experience *annoying* bugs with the old client. Sure it had bugs too, but those bugs were acceptable and easy to live with. Not being able to open Hextech is not the way they should be trying to get me to have fun. It used to be good, I don’t know why they must touch what’s already good. But whatever floats that boat, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
: I couldn't figure out how to send a PM on this forum so I'll just notify you this way: article is done, link in OP. Lemme know what you think!
I’m sorry for answering late. Thanks for the update. It’s a lengthy article for sure!
Eambo (EUW)
: [EUW] Compensation Mission Live in Client!
Thanks guys! This has restored my faith, I don’t think we’ve got such compensation before / in a long time. Even though I haven’t experienced any bit of instability (in spite of me playing all day yesterday), I still want to thank for the mission! Now I have a reason to be proud of being an EUW player. :p
rubel1130 (EUNE)
: dead game
Now you’re just tossing words about. League is one of the world’s most played games.
BM Electro (EUNE)
: And the proof that it isn't related to your account is that the download start even before you log-in.
The client checks if your client is up-to-date, login screen, the whole client library could be checked against that on the server –- these things, I could believe. However, I don’t think this download would be such a big thing. The game is not downloading a movie obviously. I can hardly believe, though, that the client would be constantly downloading something idly on login screen when you aren’t even logged into your account. Unless it is downloading a new patch, there shouldn’t be significant network traffic.
DuckzCookie (EUNE)
: League Redownloading itself?
It’s anyone’s guess. 1. Could be a bug. 2. You may have misclicked and initiated a full repair.
Hi lm Zoe (EUNE)
: Lets change the names of champions!
{{champion:28}}: Evelynnnnnnnnnnnnnn
: Forgive Me For I Have Sinned =(
Play Normal Draft mode. You choose 2 preferred positions (one primary and one secondary), and hopefully you get one of them, or get autofilled — although, that’s rare when that happens for me. Anyway, Normal Draft has saved my life, as it provides order and organisation, unlike Blind, where immature kids keep calling their lanes and throw a temper tantrum when something doesn’t go their way (don’t get offended if it doesn’t go for you). In my opinion, the mode should be removed because it does more harm than good.
: Define "Off-meta"
**“What is off-meta?”** If we’re going to define what off-meta is, we first need to look at the meaning of what meta means in League at all. Meta is the set of norms that many people in the community have defined, or has just become silently a habit to follow (or, they’ve “seen it on LCS”, and so they almost feel obliged to try too). People, therefore, have guidelines to help them play without needing to be creative, and come up with own strategies and tactics. Off-meta is when one breaks free of, and does not follow these guidelines, but rather goes / experiments with new builds, tactics — anything, really. **“What makes off-meta viable (or not)?”** There is no telling if it’s viable or not. There are builds, runes, tactics, combos that work, and there are some that don’t. It depends on each case. **“Why would you go off-meta?”** Some off-meta builds contribute to my having fun. Firstly, it feels good to get rid of community-constraints and go on my own, and let myself freely experiment; and secondly, if I never try something out, I’ll never know. If you go to a clothing shop, you’ll probably want to try on what you are about to buy to make sure it fits, no? **“Why don’t you like off-meta picks?”** Actually, I do like off-meta picks, or rather, off-meta anything. I never get mad at anyone on either team for trying something out themselves at all. I fully support these bold people, and just have fun, since it’s a game. If an off-meta tactic works for someone, they might even inspire me to try out the same. **“When is off-meta trolling (and when isn’t it)?”** Trolling is purposely ruining others’ experience, and perhaps intentionally attempting to lose the game, giving others emotional hardship. If someone has a good attitude, and you see that they are really trying, then it is not trolling. A player running about, getting themselves killed, is probably a troll. If one has spent enough time online to tell the difference will be able to judge the situation for themself. PS.: Will you send me your article when you’ve finished it?
BM Electro (EUNE)
: Actually it downloads something every time you open Client and No some people just don't have the option of getting faster internet. For clarification it doesn't download anything related to your account (champs,mastary,loot,whatever) it just keeps downloading and stops when you enter champ select and then in-game and restarts downloading again after the game. And the proof that it isn't related to your account is that the download start even before you log-in.
How do you know it’s not account related? Maybe you have more information on this than I do, so could you please tell me what you know for a fact?
: laptop
You might be having the same problem that I’ve had. **If you’re using Windows 10**, go to Settings -> System -> Display -> Graphics settings, and then browse League (installation directory/League of Legends/RADS/solutions/lol_game_client_sln/releases/0.0.1.251 (currently, but with each patch it’ll be different and you’ll have to browse again)/deploy/League of Legends.exe). Then, change the app preference to “Classic app”. After that, click on League of Legends in the list to view more control options, and click “Options”. Select “High performance”. Basically all it does, if you have 2 GPUs in your laptop (one for basic display, and one for heavier 3D stuff, like gaming), your laptop might be using your “basic display” GPU instead of your “gaming GPU” — and now you’re setting a preference for your laptop to use when running League. Now save changes, and start a custom game to test performance. This modification could result in higher gaming performance, however, it could challenge your laptop as it would start generating heat. If you’re using other OS, check if your latest video card driver is installed. Also, contact Player Support.
aladogga (EUW)
: league of legends using so much internet in the last patch 8.24 its using 93% from my internet
I can’t speak because I don’t have mobile data. However, it is an online game that sends and receives tons of data so the client can catch your account up to the latest changes, be it Hextech inventory, levelling up, missions, receiving rewards of any kind, or just chat. In game, data exchange become even more intensive, so I would recommend getting a decent ISP instead of using mobile data if you can. I don’t think, however, Riot would fix it. If anything, the game will only use more resources as it grows and gets many more features. Even if you haven’t had this issue before the current patch, this could have been done purposely by Riot in the background to improve something.
: Frame drops :(
Do you use a laptop or a PC?
Schoou (EUW)
: Fav champ and why?
{{champion:30}}, because I love pissing people off just by pressing R. I love when the enemy start crying; even though tears are salty, they are so sweet at the same time. And when they start flaming, oh boy, there’s something oddly satisfying about that.
en2que (EUW)
: It's preseason 9. Why is phone verification still not required to play?
I haven’t seen any of those “dozens” of accounts in the past 6 months. What region are we talking about, again?
: He was changed visually because he was changed gameplay wise. Visuals and gameplay have to match up, as aatrox’s rework moved further from his old kit his visuals began to not match up... so riot towards the end of his production changed it from just a GU to a VGU... hence why his visuals where changed, because his kit didn’t work with his old visuals. So he was started as just a gameplay update with no visual change, but a visual change became necessary after his kit was changed. I assumed you would have done a little research into the history of the aatrox rework and why his visuals where changed before you decided to complain about him.
I was complaining about the old champions not getting a VU. I used the word “unnecessary” for Aatrox, if which is complaining to you, then good for you. I don’t care about history because I was trying to segue to other champions’ visuals, however, you are obsessed to keep talking about Aatrox. It seems it’s totally pointless to argue with you because you are only misinterpreting my comment. Spoonfeeding won’t work, sorry guy. **From my part, case closed.**
: Not twisting words... just stating facts about how reworks work which you haven’t seemed to understand... if you did understand you wouldn’t have made the comment.
I was hoping I wasn’t going to have to spoonfeed it to you after you quoted part of my comment. The keyword was “visual”. I was talking about “visual reworks, at least”. Aatrox wasn’t unhealthy visually as opposed to the listed ones. You really just need an eye to see the difference between the goofy, unpolished, amateur animation of, say, Malphite’s and Aatrox’s, say, recall or any other animations.
: > The Aatrox rework I think, however, was really unnecessary. He was a character released in 2013, and even had a recall animation which goes to show that he wasn’t relatively old. Yet he’s become a Riven 2. Just in case Riven gets banned. There are older champs that are in great need of a visual rework at least, look at Jax. All he’s got in 9 years is a texture update. Oh, and a new W attack animations, pardon me. Aatrox was unhealthy... that’s why he was reworked it has nothing to do with age. And you can’t use the excuse of other champions need it more... riot have a team descussing and coming up with prototypes for champions who are getting reworks... when a champion is ready to begin production they start working on them as soon as a production team frees up. Aatrox was ready to begin before jax, or malph or fiddle, or mundo or anyone else... so riot started the aatrox rework... not a question of priority just them not wasting time.
I have nothing to say, except… read my comment again, please. Find keywords in the quote. Otherwise you’re twisting my words.
: Nunu... rework?
In this matter Riot is really not to blame, in my opinion, as I like the reworked Nunu. If Riot HAD changed his abilities entirely, then players would be all crying about killing AP Nunu. His old W was really useless along with his passive imho. But his kit is fairly just upgraded a bit, so it’s kind of alright. The Aatrox rework I think, however, was really unnecessary. He was a character released in 2013, and even had a recall animation which goes to show that he wasn’t relatively old. Yet he’s become a Riven 2. Just in case Riven gets banned. There are older champs that are in great need of a visual rework at least, look at Jax. All he’s got in 9 years is a texture update. Oh, and a new W attack animations, pardon me. Or look at Malphite. Fiddlesticks. Vayne. Anivia? Mundo? Zilean? And so on… These need visual rework, not Aatrox. But Riot know better than I, I guess. What’s the conclusion? We’re still waiting for an uncalled-for 3rd Ryze rework.
: Korea: #1 Server in the world. Flaming/Afking in Korea: Not bannable. EU/NA: Garbage in comparison to Korea. Flaming/afking on EU/NA: Bannable. Hmmmm...
I must say, though, EUNE is way worse than EUW in my experience. I wouldn’t use EU collectively.
: when you claim to "reform" "toxic" players into "decent people"
I don’t believe they get rewarded. Wow, you ran into a player like that. I do too once in a while. There have been a few Boards posts by folks who were banned. If you, however, doubt it, then go ahead and be toxic. Secondly, Riot are not a daycare, so the only people you are to blame is those players’ parents. It’s their job to discipline their juvenile, obnoxious kids, not Riot’s. Nor are they the Californian court. That said, depending on the extremity of their negative behaviour, players do get punished. Feeding isn’t as strong as opposed to using strong language against others. OFF: I may be undereducated, but someone tell me what the hell a punition is? Is it a pun contest?
: Battleboss Malzahar drawing
Now that’s very impressive! I hope you’re going to frame it and hang it in your room. :)
Cypherous (EUW)
: > If custom mods were, indeed, forbidden, players would be getting banned. As stated above however, folks use them at their risk. https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse Section 5 subsection 9 The following are examples of behaviour that warrant disciplinary measures: Using any unauthorized third party programs, including mods, hacks, cheats, scripts, bots, trainers and automation programs that interact with the Software in any way, for any purpose, including any unauthorized third party programs that intercept, emulate, or redirect any communication between the Software and Riot Games and any unauthorized third party programs that collect information about the Game by reading areas of memory used by the Software to store information; As such any mods are explicitly forbidden, like i said, riot is lax around this rule but its also very clearly stated that doing so is at your own risk and that riot does not explicitly allow them indefinitely > What exactly would be a “LOT” of work? They would almost just have to use already written bits of game code, and stuff it up in the new app. Plus, they literally have internal tools already for example particle management… If they released the tools that have literally have no effect on changing gameplay numbers, then that would be a good start. And it they didn’t even force themselves to work a “LOT”. Having to rewrite portions of the game to handle such a feature, from a user point of view it seems "simple" but from a code point of view these tasks are rarely "simple", the patcher would have to be rewritten, they would have to create a standardised file format, they would have to create user friendly tools that they would then have to maintain, it would mean opening up entire sections of the engine that were never designed to be open to the public, source was designed with this in mind, leagues engine was not, there is a lot more work involved than first appears > I really wouldn’t like to reason against your free skin argument because it just doesn’t make sense for me. Only you see custom skins, no one else does. People however like to show off how much money they just threw down the drains. And others only want to use those skins because they personally like them as mentioned there would be nothing preventing people from being able to use riot games created skins as they would also need to follow the new mod installer friendly format, while you might not see it as an issue, riot has to look at the larger picture and custom skins are a threat to their income, albeit only in minor terms but thats mostly down to it being unofficially sanctioned and more complicated, the other issue is having to deal with any bugs that users appear because removing everything and resetting things to default is one of the first steps, the more mods you add to something the more of a mess it becomes and troubleshooting those issues becomes a pain and you would end up with loads of bugsplat logs that were worthless as riot has no control over 3rd party mods > Given that Riot are selling RP for ridiculously high prices, multiply that amount by millions. They also have good business with E-sport. Have you taken a look at how much money they ask for 750 RP if you are from the UK? 5 pounds for 750 freaking RP. That’s what gives you heart attack for sure. It’s good business. I've seen far worse, and here's the thing, people forget how many millions they also have to pay out in office leases, server maintenance costs, hardware replacements, staff wages, prizes, advertising, they have 23 offices across the globe I mean even if they got away with paying all their staff minimum wage, which doesn't happen, but lets assume they did 40 hour working week at £7.83 is £16,286.40 per year, now, if we use the wikipedia count of 2500 staff Thats £40 million a year on wages ALONE, and again thats assuming everyone at riot games is currently working on the UK national minimum wage for 25+ people, which its safe to assume, they are not Then you add office rentals, office equipment, server space, server hardware, peering costs, bandwidth costs, advertising, prize pools, travel costs, payment transaction fees and you see that yes, while riot does infact make "millions" per year they are also spending millions per year just keeping the lights on and the game running > Also, why on Earth would they have to rewrite the game code to allow for an installer? I don’t know how much experience you have in programming, but they could basically just reuse the existing classes of the game in the app so it would be following the same way to encrypt and decrypt stuff. I never said they would have to rewrite everything, they would have to rewrite sections to even allow for this to happen, its not just a case of pointing something at it and leaving it, you need to make sure all files match the correct naming schemes, the correct formats etc, its a lot of work for zero gain for a closed source game engine that was never built for it and has had 8 seasons worth of different engineers working on it, just the QA headache alone would be enough for them not to bother :P Officially supporting something like that in a system never designed for it is a pandoras box waiting to be opened, if they were using an off the shelf engine like UE then it would probably be easier but everything they use is custom and was developed inhouse a decade ago > Lastly, they wouldn’t necessarily have to lead the whole custom modding community, I would personally settle for them giving tool in our hands and we would start screwing nuts for ourselves. They would still need a way to police it and they would still have to actively support it and redesign tools anytime file formats changed etc
I think we’re just misunderstanding each other. I first want to settle this topic. I still don’t understand why they would need to rewrite even a line, let alone portions of the game, when the only thing an installer tool should do is read .wad files (which are totally separate from League of Legends.exe), display its contents, and save them? The game would perfectly handle that without the devs giving themselves extra homework. They would have to grab the game’s, say, WAD.cpp and WAD.h files, and the tool would be using the code of those files just like the game does. It seems simple because it IS simple. I know how that works and honestly, it wouldn’t make sense literally to make big efforts when you can use the same code as the game does to read .wad files. The way the tool would be working would have 3 stages: read, write, and save. Not more and not less. If you like it this way. Imagine an illustration. A .wad file is in middle of it. On the left the game client, and on the right the modding tool. The .wad file in question is the middle way. It is their common factor. Both programs are pulling files and other data (such as models, skeletons, animations, particles, sounds and many more types of files) to use for themselves, but they never interact with each other. The two apps will never in the world will have anything to do with each other. When you get the tool to read the .wad file, make changes, and then save it to the directory it was originally in. Then the game just pulls the modified .wad file.
Shädäm (EUNE)
: "Omg mass shooting?" "Oh.. in the US. Nevermind"
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Valve have solved it for themselves somehow. For Riot, it wouldn’t be that much of an added work really as they could use existing bits of the code. Valve used an already existing engine which is publicly released, it was built with this in mind, LoL was not and it would be a LOT of added work > And I don’t think people would stop buying skins because there are custom mods. Custom mods are already in existence, there is no problem with it. It does affect them and custom skins existing already doesn't by default mean riot "has" to support them or allow them, like it or not having freely available skins does impact if people actually want to spend money, i mean, why spend money on a skin when i can get it for free :P > Furthermore, custom mods, as far as I know, are in the ‘gray’ zone. That is, they don’t count as breach of the Terms of Use. They don’t change gameplay experience, only cosmetics / sounds / anything that you can only see, and they don’t give you advantage in any way. There is no "grey" zone, at the end of the day all 3rd party mods are technically forbidden by the EULA, the difference is that riot is lax around this rule when it comes to certain changes, there is a reason you won't find riot actively linking to tools to perform these modifications, while they won't, at this time, ban people for using these modifications that doesn't mean they "support" them > But it seems the two companies are different… Riot have so much to learn. Shame, the game could do so much better… So many talented people won’t be able to take their fan creations to a new level other than YouTube and Imgur... Its not really a learning experience, at the end of the day valve could afford to make ZERO money from dota2 without it impacting them, riot on the other hand cannot, 2 very different markets, and thats also before you remember that the source engine was built to be open from the start, riots game was not and rewriting entire portions of the game to allow for an installer that they would then have to police and maintain isn't really something that is on the cards
What exactly would be a “LOT” of work? They would almost just have to use *already written* bits of game code, and stuff it up in the new app. Plus, they literally have internal tools already for example particle management… If they released the tools that have literally have no effect on changing gameplay numbers, then that would be a good start. And it they didn’t even force themselves to work a “LOT”. I really wouldn’t like to reason against your free skin argument because it just doesn’t make sense for me. Only you see custom skins, no one else does. People however like to show off how much money they just threw down the drains. According to Player Support article “Third Party Applications”, they are almost giving the gist that yes, it is in grey area >“For now, custom models and artwork sit firmly in the “use-at-your-own-risk” category, but we’re keeping an eye on them. We can’t optimize for assets we don’t develop, and if they do become a concern for any reason in the future (ie. they provide measurable player advantage), we’ll take action based on the stance we just laid out. >Gray areas aside, there are definitely applications which are just not okay, and while the number of players in this space are very low (think a fraction of a percentage), we remain vigilant and hand out punishments to those who show patterns of consistent abuse.” If custom mods were, indeed, forbidden, players would be getting banned. As stated above however, folks use them at their risk. Given that Riot are selling RP for ridiculously high prices, multiply that amount by millions. They also have good business with E-sport. Have you taken a look at how much money they ask for 750 RP if you are from the UK? 5 pounds for 750 freaking RP. That’s what gives you heart attack for sure. It’s good business. Also, why on Earth would they have to rewrite the game code to allow for an installer? I don’t know how much experience you have in programming, but they could basically just reuse the existing classes of the game in the app so it would be following the same way to encrypt and decrypt stuff. Lastly, they wouldn’t necessarily have to lead the whole custom modding community, I would personally settle for them giving tool in our hands and we would start screwing nuts for ourselves.
HitYourHead (EUNE)
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Mate… however Riot may be encouraging people with these missions, you still need to be careful about who you add. Also, Riot hardly ever listen to people’s opinions, so forget that this will be fixed in the near future. The issue of friending people on the internet is a common problem anyway. **Friends** are not exactly who you’d call random strangers. This sounds quite controversial, “I have random strangers on my friend list (because it is called Friend list in League, right)”. Lmao. Let’s call ol’ Cambridge Dictionary for help so we can define the word “friend” first. https://imgur.com/z4ORpOo So what’s conclusion? Have only friends on your friend list. “Friend” and “random strangers” don’t define each other. Friends are people who you know well and trust. Friends are people who would never screw you over. We can’t do more than to accept that this situation sucks. I’m not going to sugarcoat it. But you should also be picky about who you friend on the internet. If a lot more people were begging Riot then they MIGHT hear us. But in the meantime, I hardly believe they are going to change the policy and help the guy. We’re on our own. The big bros don’t care about small people’s problems. This is business world unfortunately. It’s foolishness to believe that business world works on emotional and humane basis. It is all about digging gold.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Since Riot are a big company though, it really shouldn’t be a problem to take a look at the app every other month. Its still added work for no real gain though, thats the point, they benefit even less from officially support a mod installer as there is even less incentive to buy a skin, the difficulty of doing it and the lack of persistence through patches is part of the barrier to entry, lazy people will just give up and buy the skin, if its guaranteed to work and is officially supported then the lazy get to keep being lazy The flipside of it is by adding mod support they open themselves up to things that are not supported under the ToS, so they would have to then try to police the mods that are used and this again generates more work for no real gain, its never going to be in riots best interest to support a mod installer regardless of if they can do it :P
Valve have solved it for themselves somehow. For Riot, it wouldn’t be that much of an added work really as they could use existing bits of the code. Persistence I don’t know how could be an issue, but I have already elaborated that in my last comment so I’ll spare you that part. And I don’t think people would stop buying skins because there are custom mods. Custom mods are already in existence, there is no problem with it. The problem is the game’s directory being restructured once in several years (they must have introduced RAF file in like ~2011-12). It just sucks and is really slow when you have to reverse engineer the Riot’s custom encrypted files. Furthermore, custom mods, as far as I know, are in the ‘gray’ zone. That is, they don’t count as breach of the Terms of Use. They don’t change gameplay experience, only cosmetics / sounds / anything that you can only see, and they don’t give you advantage in any way. But it seems the two companies are different… Riot have so much to learn. Shame, the game could do so much better… So many talented people won’t be able to take their fan creations to a new level other than YouTube and Imgur...
: Riot: getting chests
It’s good this way. If this one way were lost, then what would motivate people to play outstandingly? I can hardly believe that even the weak would be having a hard time getting them chests.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ImainLilSatan,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=rpEaqr6E,comment-id=0001000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-26T17:06:59.298+0000) > > That scenario is next to impossible. > People chargeback for personal gain, not to troll. > This system they have while not perfect is very effective. > > Oh look at this, my friend stole a car and gave it to me. > Well they can't possibly take it away now. > > Once they figure out what happened and the money for RP is found to be fully paid, they will unlock the account. > If there really was a chargeback and that "friend" doesn't wanna pay...well by bye to the account. > Really simple. I'm not talking about that kind of scenario, i'm talking about someone that might use stolen credit card to try banning people, innocent people, doesn't seem like an impossible scenario. And as long as IT IS POSSIBLE to do it, then something should be done about it. :)
I don’t know why the effort. If someone does, then it’ll be their interest too to get back a valuable account as they DO get themselves locked as well. I’ve seen people.
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