Forsan (EUW)
: Like I said before, not punishing a bad behaviour attracts more of that behaviour from other people, not necessarily the same ones. My logic doesn't work ? it's not "my logic" It's the same logic that fundamented the law system, a strong part of it is discouraging people from doing the morally unaccepted behaviours, how ? by actively punishing it .. not just saying "it's not ok to murder" but have no one to deal with those cases. **I'm not saying that the main guilt is at Riot when a player decide to troll, I'm saying that Riot is as guilty as the troll, because they aren't doing jack sh*t to prevent this behaviour, most of their efforts being focused wrongly.**
> [{quoted}](name=Forsan,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Ja4blphx,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-12-06T14:23:59.727+0000) > > Like I said before, not punishing a bad behaviour attracts more of that behaviour from other people, not necessarily the same ones. > > My logic doesn't work ? it's not "my logic" It's the same logic that fundamented the law system, a strong part of it is discouraging people from doing the morally unaccepted behaviours, how ? by actively punishing it .. not just saying "it's not ok to murder" but have no one to deal with those cases. > > **I'm not saying that the main guilt is at Riot when a player decide to troll, I'm saying that Riot is as guilty as the troll, because they aren't doing jack sh*t to prevent this behaviour, most of their efforts being focused wrongly.** But people do get banned. Regularly. Sure it's not 100% accurate, and I'm not going to claim that its working amazingly - it definitely needs improvement - but people do get banned for trolling and inting. It takes time to catch up because a computer can't tell if you made that decision to hinder your team, or it was just a bad decision - so unless it's super obvious, of course it's going to take some time to catch up, but it does. >, I'm saying that Riot is as guilty as the troll, because they aren't doing jack sh*t to prevent this behaviour No, it's still the player making a conscious decision. This has nothing to do with Riot. And it will eventually catch up with that player. You cannot blame the decision making factors of an individual on a different entity. Sorry.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=52wweiIY,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T13:29:42.730+0000) > > If it was something you had access to, you could pretty easily go through the history and figure out which applies to who if you're paying enough attention. > > So yeah, whilst it's not a full "we're giving you all the data", it's definitely a "Here's a tool that you could use to obtain that data" which causes the problem. What data more exactly, how does an username help me in any way? What am i going to do with that? Isn't it a breach of privacy making usernames public to begin with? Sorry, i'm really dumb in this field, and it doesn't make any sense to me. Could you please elaborate how does one get affected if their punishment is public?
Because that has to do with a termination of a contractual agreement between the player and Riot (when you agree to the T&S) where Riot has committed to a level of privacy with the player, as would be expected with most "contracts". In Europe especially, with GDPR regulations, and data protection laws, having ways to obtain this information without the consent of both parties would garner a pretty huge fine, and as these fines scale with GDP of a company, it could cripple pretty much even huge companies like Riot.
Kamakas (EUW)
: > What the 3rd strike was doesn't matter, if it's against the rules How is this relevent though? My point is, you **know exactly** what the rules/laws are, that's the main difference I pointed out. Yeah If you get punished for drinking and driving then you might have a period where you can go to jail for simply consuming alcohol, but you are aware of it. > My personal experience is that the majority of people aren't negative in games Yes, I was talking about the majority of games, not the players. I guess our experience may be different, but I stand by the fact that I see this kind of negativity very very often. Not even saying if it should or should't be punishable, just the fact that I have never reported people for this, because I was not aware this was actually punishable.
>How is this relevent though? My point is, you know exactly what the rules/laws are, that's the main difference I pointed out Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse for breaking them, which is applicable both here and in life. >Yes, I was talking about the majority of games, not the players. I guess our experience may be different, but I stand by the fact that I see this kind of negativity very very often. It's more likely because the negative games are more memorable over the neutral or positive ones - this aspect is just human nature, the same way that if you go to a pizza place 100 times, and the 100th has a hair on your pizza - you're likely to stick with that as your view of the place from there than the multiple other neutral experiences you had.
Forsan (EUW)
: At this point it's not even the players fault anymore
>In this situation, ofcourse I'd be more tempted to steal that shiny phone when the person is not looking, because I know I will never get punished Here's a thing. This is your decision as a person. Which means that the fault and liability lays with you. You can't steal something and then claim that it's someone elses fault for not protecting it. That's not how the world works. >Not the best analogy but you get the point, before blaming the next troll in your game, take in consideration that Rito is as guilty as him for ruining the game. Riot doesn't tell people to be toxic. They don't sit behind you, leaning over your shoulder saying "You should int or flame that guy". These are all decisions made by the player behind the screen. Which means it lays with the player committing the offence. Otherwise I could start blaming car companies for if I ran someone over or crashed my car. Because they gave me the thing I'm using right? Your logic doesn't work out here.
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=52wweiIY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T11:46:27.632+0000) > > The other reason is that it is to protect privacy. How or who someone gets punished is between Riot and that player. Privacy plays absolutely no role in this matter, since they're taking actions against an user (the account is riot's property), if someone gets banned, nobody can tell who that person is, since legal information is NOT binded or required on any of "our accounts". I really don't see how this could even remotely be considered a breach of privacy, there's no real information, no names, no addresses, just an username.
If it was something you had access to, you could pretty easily go through the history and figure out which applies to who if you're paying enough attention. So yeah, whilst it's not a full "we're giving you all the data", it's definitely a "Here's a tool that you could use to obtain that data" which causes the problem.
Kamakas (EUW)
: There is one substantial difference between this and real life though, it's that in real life (or some other games) there are clear lines, what is punishable and what is not, the fact that "negative attitude" is not tolerable doesn't really tell much, my personal experience of playing league is that this level of negativity is pretty normal thing in very many games I have played. That's why I made this poll though, If the vast majority are aware this is punishable, I stand corrected.
Not really. Look at the 3 strike rule that Legal enforcement's in a lot of western countries. What the 3rd strike was doesn't matter, if it's against the rules, and you haven't learned the first time, then the punishment needs to be stepped up. >the fact that "negative attitude" is not tolerable doesn't really tell much, I mean you spent the whole game harrassing someone. If you tried to treat someone like this in a cafe or the such, I'm pretty sure you'd be asked to leave there too. >my personal experience of playing league is that this level of negativity is pretty normal thing in very many games I have played. My personal experience is that the majority of people aren't negative in games - it happens, sure, but it's usually localised to one person throwing a glorified temper tantrum. If you don't have something constructive to add, and all you're doing is belittling another player, yeah that classifies as a negative attitude. Not sure how it wouldn't.
: Troll of the Day...
>Yep. Vayne jungle coz she saw some Youtuber player and assumed it was a free instawin. Did they play the game and actively try to win? Then it wasn't a troll pick. If they picked it and explicitly did so to troll (think disco nunu), THAT's a troll pick.
Kamakas (EUW)
: POLL: Should this warrant a permanent ban?
>Yes, I had been previously punished before being permabanned When you get a 14-day ban, from there you're essentially on probation, which means even minor infringements can trigger a perma. This isn't different to how probation works elsewhere in other aspects of life or gaming really.
BAHINO (EUW)
: This account has been permanently suspended
>i don't know why i got ban permanently just i want to say that my pc was hacked and it's my favorite account You'll have a reform card appear when you log in advising you as to why. "Being Hacked" is not really an excuse either - account security is your responsibility. If Riot were to take every "I was hacked" claim seriously, no one would be banned as it would be the go to defence - This is pretty much why the account security falls into your hands.
Viridiam (EUW)
: This is a waste of time.
>It's no secret that league of legends is not as international as they made us believe. If we check the numbers, Only europeans (and maybe chinese) play the game on a daily or frequent basis. I'm genuinely curious where you're pulling this data from on this point I've moved from OCE to NA to EUW over the course of the last 3 years, the previous two servers still being very much alive and active, with playing with regular friends on pretty much a daily basis, and the communities there are very much still thriving.
: I did not know at the time that account sharing was to be life banned. Furthermore there is no reforming to be had since this account is free from any bans and warning regarding toxicity and whatnot
>I did not know at the time that account sharing was to be life banned. Not knowing isn't really an excuse here unfortunately, and regarding the account sharing, it's likely that the person you shared it with committed an offence for it to be flagged in the first place - in which case you're still responsible for your account here, as you shared the details.
Xylly (EUW)
: Ekko E and LeBlanc W interaction
>Actual behavior: Ekko sticks to LB, ends E at Distortion starting position Working as intended if LB distorts back during the animation. Same for various other dashes and abilities - it's similar to a Warwick Q. You can use this information to out play them though, I've dragged an Ekko under tower by playing a dash smartly more than a few times, and it's a cheeky way to nab a few kills.
: What would you prefer [toxicity is a fake problem, nobody looks for real ones]
>A teammate who is absolute awful, always dead but he is so nice, saying pleasant things. You will be Iron-4 trash with him. This one. Game is enjoyable with good people. Crappy attitudes from Crappy people make for Crappy games - I don't care how well someone plays, there's no excuse for berating other players, and I don't want to play with those style of people at all.
: Technical questions regarding bans
If the ban was justified, it won't be lifted. The amount of money spent on the account doesn't change this. If you've reformed, that's fantastic, and you can still play on another account, but not the banned one - it's there to serve as a reminder that toxic behaviour isn't acceptable.
Forsan (EUW)
: "Actively looking to improve their systems" .... that's why tons of suggestions remain ignored in the boards archive, and never have I ever seen someone from riot discussing "actively" such thing with the community since they play the game, and know much better these problems than riot employees
> [{quoted}](name=Forsan,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9dfY4uEH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T15:36:29.064+0000) > > "Actively looking to improve their systems" .... that's why tons of suggestions remain ignored in the boards archive, and never have I ever seen someone from riot discussing "actively" such thing with the community since they play the game, and know much better these problems than riot employees Do you think it would be wise to publically discuss ways that they can pick up intentional feeders? Wouldn't that kind of make the point of it moot, as they could look for ways around it?
: So actually thats what they do? They stop providing service and nothing u can do? I bet lot of people doesnt know this. My last ticket number is #43894855
As someone else stated, I can _try_ to see if I can get assistance for you, but I can't promise anything. I'll see if I can make some waves here. I'd kind of appreciate dropping the attitude though - I'm trying to help you and you only seem to be interested in directing your frustrations at me.
: I am completely aware of delays due to modifying ticket. That is why I sent 3 different tickets from 3 different mails, without updating or modifying and still no reply in 11 days. I talked with few people about this and they claimed same thing happened to them in past. It's basically losing my money without single word from Riot. Now, take the worst game/company out there and tell me 1 company that wouldn't respond in less then 5 days? Also I dont know if there is any legal I can do regarding this, but will check for sure
>I am completely aware of delays due to modifying ticket. That is why I sent 3 different tickets from 3 different mails, without updating or modifying and still no reply in 11 days. Can you give me your first ticket number? >I talked with few people about this and they claimed same thing happened to them in past. It's basically losing my money without single word from Riot. I've been playing this game for about 8 years now, it doesn't happen - everytime I've seen it been claimed, it came down to either the account ownership changing hands (which is a big no no), using outdated credentials, or someone got banned. I'd say you likely fall into the middle category here. Firstly, it doesn't make sense from a business perspective. Why would they? You're not going to come back if they do that, and they get zero benefit from doing so. Secondly, accounts just don't get "deleted". There's a whole process with player support that has to be done to even get close to this. >Now, take the worst game/company out there and tell me 1 company that wouldn't respond in less then 5 days? They also likely have much smaller player bases. >Also I dont know if there is any legal I can do regarding this, but will check for sure Technically you don't own the account, any money spent is spent on "renting" the skins, so to speak, so no. There's no legal course here, but I doubt that it would even be required looking into anyway.
: > Use the time to practice things I need to work on, like Csing or skill shots etc. all the while MY rank is going to go down for someone elses play... tell me, why should THEIR play (or lack therof) affect MY rank > My question back to you is, what does throwing words back at them achieve? I doubt it's going to suddenly shift their attitude. nice attempt at a deflection, tell me, if RIOT were actually ADRESSING this problem, how would they (the trolls) be able to do what they are doing?
>all the while MY rank is going to go down for someone elses play... tell me, why should THEIR play (or lack therof) affect MY rank Because it's a team game and this is a risk you take when you play a team game. The same way in any sports teams, you're going to have a star player, and others that aren't as good - does this mean the star player should by default win every game? If you can't take this as a risk, you need to swap to solo ventures. >nice attempt at a deflection, Not deflection, genuine question - I don't understand what people hope to achieve by it so I ask. >if RIOT were actually ADRESSING this problem, how would they (the trolls) be able to do what they are doing? They are. The system is not perfect, it never will be - you're asking a computer to figure out what is going through the other persons mind, which is impossible - so it takes longer to calculate the data and establish if the person is infact doing these things intentionally, or maybe just having a bad streak or two. This is why it takes longer for these to catch up, unless it's super obvious cases. If you're expecting instant bans to be handed out the minute you see someone doing what _you_ consider any of the above, then pretty much everyone would be banned - god knows I've been accused of inting or trolling when I was actually just having a crappy day or game, I think pretty much everyone has.
BlackXIV (EUW)
: My account suddenly is level 0 and I cannot post.
Edit: Declined has better details because he has wrenches.
krytr00 (EUNE)
: yes And when i ask for user name this account not be here...
Again, sorry these questions may sound stupid but it helps establish kind of where you're at: Firstly, are you sure you're using the correct username? Remembering that what appears in game and on the boards could be completely different to your "account" name And lastly, are you sure you're checking the right email address registered to the account? I have about 6 different emails that I use for various different things, and quite often run into the "I never got the email!" then find it in a completely different inbox later on.
krytr00 (EUNE)
: I cant recover my password
Sorry this may sound like a stupid question, but did you check your spam folders in your email?
Nittomane (EUW)
: Troll need to get banned!
>but I believe that the ban system (temporary or not) needs a clear improvement. It does, you're right. Riot knows that, players know that, and they're actively always looking for better ways to improve their systems. However, the issue here is that you're asking a computer system to determine the intent of someone behind the screen. For example, someone walking into a skill shot because they're trolling vs someone who did because they misclicked or are having a bad game. There's no way a computer can determine this without collecting more data over time, which is why the trolling and intentional feeding bans take a bit longer to catch up with people. The reason chat bans and toxicity gets picked up immediately is because chat logs are clear cut, black and white evidence. It's a case of "You said it, here it is, there's no debate over it because it was definitely said and intended to be malicious based on language." So yeah, you're right, it does need improvement, however there are technical limitations to this which is why it is where it is - this is pretty much the same for all similar style games, as the tech just isn't smart enough to figure that out instantly yet, unless of course it's super obvious.
: what is emissary ur green ur mod?
I'm part of the Volunteer program who assist in keeping the boards active, creating fun contests and to some extent, that as well yes.
: RIOT CHEATERS
Riot doesn't just delete accounts, that's not how it works. Also, when you have a ticket submitted, if you add updates to that or modify it, it resets your position in the ticket queue. Within that time period, did you make adjustments to your ticket? If so, this is likely why it has taken this long to respond.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=aT6Y3RGp,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:29:45.111+0000) > > I honestly don't care if they post their proof or not - it's quite clear from the posts here that they have no interest in doing anything other than building fallacies and nonsense. > > But it's fun to shoot down their whole argument with that simple fact so > > {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} States he doesn't care which proves he does care. I posted my proof. My proof was deleted. I was forum banned. What part of that are you failing to comprehend? You've shot down nothing. You've stated zero facts. Stop spreading misinformation.
Based off your boards history, none of what you posted was proof, nor was it what you were banned for. But hey, it's not like I can check these things, right? >States he doesn't care which proves he does care. I don't, which is pretty much why I'll stop after this one, I just wanted to see how you responded to that one for kicks really. It's also why I didn't ask for proof, but just honed in on that point :).
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=aT6Y3RGp,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:22:11.092+0000) > > Amount of reports doesn't change anything. All a report does is trigger a review of a game. Incorrect. On multiple occasions I have proved this wrong. I posted my proof in this thread and it was deleted and I was forum banned. Stop spreading misinformation.
> [{quoted}](name=FxxKYxxRxxT,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=aT6Y3RGp,comment-id=00090001,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:36:22.008+0000) > > Incorrect. > > On multiple occasions I have proved this wrong. I posted my proof in this thread and it was deleted and I was forum banned. > > Stop spreading misinformation. I'm going to take a Rioter post over your typical defense of "I posted proof and I was banned", which isn't true. Sorry mate. This is also why people don't get insta-banned by 4-man premades. At all. Unless they broke the rules anyway.
negativ0e (EUW)
: From my experience (i am not a good writer) When mid or bot lane is losing i get piled in mid trying to help the team. Whit both garen and darius
Alright, so it sounds like you typically get ahead in your lane. From this, you should be looking to set up with objective control. Communicate with your jungler to use the Rift Herald, or utilize your teleport for a sneaky bot lane gank and dragon. In the lower elo's, map awareness is usually a massive issue (seriously, vision is one of the most valuable resources in the game), and if you're ahead, you have the chance to abuse this if played smartly. Keeping tabs on the enemy Jungler is also super important. Getting deep wards in their jungle if you're ahead is super helpful, as if you see them heading towards Krugs, then suddenly you're free for a quick jaunt down to mid lane, as they're not likely to arrive there in time. Having said that, sometimes some lanes are beyond help. In these situations, again if you're in the position to do so, split pushing can be super effective provided you keep up your vision to avoid ganks. If you keep good vision and manage to split and retreat properly, you can allow your team mates to catch up whilst the enemy re-allocates resources to dealing with, or trying to chase you. I'm not a top laner, however, but just some general advice that tends to help people get a better grasp on what they can and can't do with their champion and/or leads.
: I know, I'm ill myself.. Still though, Runeterra is a world of it's own, Urgot has been kidnapped and tortured until he "broke". Kayle literally murdered so many of her own people because of her religious/political beliefs. Do I need to talk about Udyr hearing voices and Lissandra murdering her sisters over and over again? That world is %%%%ed up, just like our own. So having some champions represent that madness wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
> [{quoted}](name=M3NTAL P4TIENT,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=FsAHQq58,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:32:09.796+0000) > > I know, I'm ill myself.. Still though, Runeterra is a world of it's own, Urgot has been kidnapped and tortured until he "broke". Kayle literally murdered so many of her own people because of her religious/political beliefs. Do I need to talk about Udyr hearing voices and Lissandra murdering her sisters over and over again? That world is %%%%ed up, just like our own. So having some champions represent that madness wouldn't be out of the ordinary. I'm not saying that representing madness and chaos is out - it's more the way it's done. For example, putting amumu in a straight jacket because he's "sad" is a bit much... Having Jinx or Shaco be chaotic because their thematic is chaotic anarchy and destruction is a different ball game.
negativ0e (EUW)
: i cant climb of bronze
Is there anything in particular you're struggling with? Are you winning / losing lanes but having issues with team fights later down the track? Are you paying attention to objective controls? People can review statistics, sure, but an insight to what you think you need to improve and what you could possibly be doing wrong allows more room for training.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=aT6Y3RGp,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-12-04T13:22:11.092+0000) > > Amount of reports doesn't change anything. All a report does is trigger a review of a game. Come on, I almost convinced him you weren't there to get him post his "proof".
I honestly don't care if they post their proof or not - it's quite clear from the posts here that they have no interest in doing anything other than building fallacies and nonsense. But it's fun to shoot down their whole argument with that simple fact so {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
Killmore (EUNE)
: toxicity
> [{quoted}](name=Killmore,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gcGhlmsz,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-04T12:04:53.206+0000) > > why instead of helping each other people are flaming . for real tho everytime i play all i get is noob %%%%%% instead of you can do better its ok its just a game . Because people have issues accepting that they themselves can make mistakes - this is pretty much applicable to life in general. So if they can put themselves above you, it removes the chance that anything is their fault - or at least that's what I believe the psychology is behind it. I actually made this comment the other day to a friend I played with, that I don't understand these people because what happens when they have a bad game? They can't be playing perfectly every game or they'd be challenger or LCS level players. The whole mentality just baffles me.
: 2 Week Ban. No Chat Logs.
>-Accumulate arbitrary number of reports Amount of reports doesn't change anything. All a report does is trigger a review of a game.
: permaban? for what?
You should have had a message when logging into the client stating why. Providing more info based off that will allow players here to assist you in finding out where you went wrong. However, Rioters generally won't respond to these sorts of threads on the board. It's best to submit a ticket via the support function if you would like a direct response from them.
: they ususlly do this why extreme cases , as bot boosting , a permabanned ID, elo boosting , 3rd party usualy don't get a response or a reason . And boards as per usual are bunch of bots. "deserved", "chat logs", just spouting the everytday horseshit like allways.
To be fair, the vast majority of cases posted on the boards are actually warranted - it's super rare that one turns up where it wasn't. On top of that, yeah "chat logs" is there so people can advise where the person went wrong. Without any of this, anything is hearsay from a biased source, and omitting them generally indicates there is something to hide.
: wishing cancer the only solution?
>so what do you do? >at least throw some words on them no? Use the time to practice things I need to work on, like Csing or skill shots etc. My question back to you is, what does throwing words back at them achieve? I doubt it's going to suddenly shift their attitude.
: Asylum/ Mental Hospital Skin Line?
>To clarify, I DON'T want it to make fun of mental illness This is treading into dangerous territory of doing so though.
Reaperxox (EUNE)
: The bottom line and what everyone wants to know is : will there be any change of whats happening now and everyone gets back their old usernames / not having to change their current usernames that they want? or No one gives a crap and we have to go through this?
I mean, I don't have any more info here than you do :(
Declined (EUNE)
: Not wanting to change your login name?
I've also been affected, rip having to change my log in name. I foresee many failed log in attempts in my future.
: Maybe if I show you an account i fed 40 games in a row, you might say that that deserves a ban. Maybe, then comunity would say something about it. Maybe Riot will begin banning for inting then.
If there was 1 game of intentional feeding I would say it deserves a ban. I just don't see what you achieve by complaining about, yet participating in the problem.
: About the support discussion
People don't like change. That tends to be the reason for most complaints during pre-seasons. It's also preseason, so people need to realise that none of these updates are concrete, and everything could be completely different a month from now.
Senk715 (EUNE)
: Too much of a honor punishment
It likely would have been a coincidence. Rioters won't do things like that. They can't let their personal emotions influence things like this. Also, one line such as "piece of sh*t" wouldn't get you a chat restriction. It takes multiple infractions, and the system takes into account your good behaviour thus far, before it applies things like that.
: I got banned for inting when I wasn't
Yeah, your deaths don't line up with a bad game. Also your response was from the support bot which just shares the statistics it behaves off. That BIG RED BUTTON that says "Request Human" will get player support to review it. Though I doubt you'll be successful.
: Premades of LoL, do you report your own friends?
Personally if I see my friends stepping out of line, I'll mention it to them the first time (I only tend to play with friends on voice chat and mention it to them there). If it continues I remind again. 3rd strike is I won't play with them again really and report it. Of course they can skip all 3 in my eyes if it's something super extreme too.
Kraungard (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fRJNgaz3,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-09-19T11:31:02.632+0000) > > It sucks and the system definitely needs improvement - I've experienced it at a high volume as well the last few days (did receive IFS notifications a couple of times which was nice though). > > Just walk into the mentality that a ranked game is the same as a normal. Because at the end of the day, it is - the only difference is there's a score attached to one. > When you start adapting that mentality and just playing your best, I found that I got phased by this a lot less. Oh, I did try doing that and I understand that it's just a game after all but the thing is, that very score is what makes it hard not to get stressed out. I mean, we play Ranked because of that score and when that score goes down because we lose we kind of feel bad about it. In Normals there's nothing really to lose, nothing really to gain either but still, Normal and Ranked will always have a different feel to me just because of that.
>Oh, I did try doing that and I understand that it's just a game after all but the thing is, that very score is what makes it hard not to get stressed out It's difficult, but once you master the art of ignoring toxic players and focusing on you, I promise this sort of stuff just rolls off your back. >I mean, we play Ranked because of that score and when that score goes down because we lose we kind of feel bad about it. In Normals there's nothing really to lose, nothing really to gain either but still, Normal and Ranked will always have a different feel to me just because of that. Just pretend there's no score. I play almost exclusively ranked. I don't play normals because if I can play the same game and get a score for it, why not right? But I also don't treat it any differently to standard normals and just play my best as I would anyway. Having this attitude has made me kind of disregard the number scoring that gets attached, and just focus on playing. But everyone has different management skills for these things, I thought I'd just offer mine as suggestion :).
Gerbster (EUW)
: I'd like to play SR again but I can't be dealing with all the negativity it brings. It seems like everyone expects everyone else to play perfect, when in actual fact even pro's can make mistakes. Your'e either trolling/noob/insert various swear word, low life scum/etc... It's a real shame as this is a great game but the more vocal players tend to voice their "opinions" quite voraciously even though thoughts aren't facts! - I'm aware that certain people just want to "run it down" but until RIOT applies more attention to this we will just end up "banging our heads against walls". The game has definitely changed for me since the beginning and I don't just mean in patch sense, it used to be a lot more "game focused" instead of "$ focused". Now I want to get something straight here, business need to make money in order to run(1), but in the last few years in seems the game focus has fallen by the wayside. (1) I feel it's important to say that I've bought a fair amount of RP over the years I've played and I don't regret it, I don't play SR anymore but love ARAM.
>I'd like to play SR again but I can't be dealing with all the negativity it brings. It seems like everyone expects everyone else to play perfect, when in actual fact even pro's can make mistakes. Your'e either trolling/noob/insert various swear word, low life scum/etc... I feel it becomes a bit more hyper-critical, definitely. It's a matter of learning to tune those people out and just making sure you played your best. As long as you did that, nothing else really matters. >(1) I feel it's important to say that I've bought a fair amount of RP over the years I've played and I don't regret it, I don't play SR anymore but love ARAM. Money doesn't change too much - I've spent an obscene amount on this game (not too far off my 600th skin actually), but I've had fun doing it, so that's all that matters to me. If your fun is in ARAM, then that's also fantastic :) Maybe we can play one together one day.
Legend NL (EUW)
: NERF OR REMOVE THIS STUPID YUUMI CHAMP TY RIOT
What is {{item:3123}} ? This item is so undervalued and it is quite irritating when ADC's don't rush this item into Yuumi, or Soraka for that matter. It literally cripples them in lane.
WORLDBraker (EUNE)
: Im done with this shit game
Player behaviour is assessed individually - just because someone else is breaking the rules doesn't mean you can to. Your logs are also heavily edited - you've skipped Game 1 logs entirely - without unedited logs, your story is unreliable and you won't get much input other than that really.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fRJNgaz3,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-09-19T11:31:02.632+0000) > > It sucks and the system definitely needs improvement - I've experienced it at a high volume as well the last few days (did receive IFS notifications a couple of times which was nice though). > > Just walk into the mentality that a ranked game is the same as a normal. Because at the end of the day, it is - the only difference is there's a score attached to one. > When you start adapting that mentality and just playing your best, I found that I got phased by this a lot less. to me its what is acualy ruining the game. people playing rankeds casualy as if it was a normal game " oh i pick gp who cares"
> [{quoted}](name=XtraThic ,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fRJNgaz3,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-09-19T11:38:00.799+0000) > > to me its what is acualy ruining the game. people playing rankeds casualy as if it was a normal game " oh i pick gp who cares" Different thing all together. Each game should be treated as "I want to win". That's it. Normal or ranked does not change this. People assuming they can do stupid things because it's "normals" without coordinating with their team mates will yield the same reaction from people playing normals as it does ranked really. That's a problem with the players interpretation of Normals as opposed to what I was suggesting.
Kraungard (EUNE)
: Don't you love it when people run it down and go unpunished?
It sucks and the system definitely needs improvement - I've experienced it at a high volume as well the last few days (did receive IFS notifications a couple of times which was nice though). >Honestly I don't see a purpose of playing Ranked anymore if these people roam around ruining games. I guess I'm better off with Normals then if I have to play with them. Just walk into the mentality that a ranked game is the same as a normal. Because at the end of the day, it is - the only difference is there's a score attached to one. When you start adapting that mentality and just playing your best, I found that I got phased by this a lot less.
Not Yasuo (EUW)
: I get banned unjustly :( thanks riot
Quick glance at your match history and your story doesn't match the death timers, nor explain how if you're emulating their behaviour you _**somehow**_ ended up with the _**most deaths**_ .
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