jacktjong (EUW)
: Poppy buff idea
Poppy is already in a position where she's either a siege minion, or a raid boss. I feel tweaking her like this would push her more towards the latter. She's more of a niche pick; someone you should take into teams with lots of dashes, rather than "creating" dashes for her on everyone.
: Thank you alot, by my comment i meant you can be yourself with me as obviously you are trying to help me and not humiliate me or call me out for lying (with wrongful information...) so if i understood correctly even if ticket is marked as solved it will be reviewed by a human ? PS: I have clicked the request a human before many times
Were the ticket responses on resolution from Blitzbot? It may be worth checking the email you have registered with the account as well, as ticket responses should update there for you too - you may have received a response from a Player support agent. If it was from an agent, but the response seems "robotic", that will be due to the fact that they use templates for a lot of responses, as most companies and employees do in the service industry (Why take 5 minutes to write a personalised response vs a copy paste with name change that provides the same information. Not the best customer service, but efficient).
: First thank you, i see you are being very PC and polite and thank you for that. i just want to voice that I am aware of the whole situation. my problem is that I am unable to request a human review and i need help with that. i submited 3 tickets and they were all "solved". (screenshot 1) https://imgur.com/05Vld4r only blitzcrank bot responds with my chat logs and there is a button for requesting a human review. (screenshot 2) https://imgur.com/9ev2FDi when i click the button im redirect to a form that i did it once and since then i keep getting to the page in screenshot 3. https://imgur.com/qjx4hDH Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/M5T0inS
>First thank you, i see you are being very PC and polite and thank you for that. Everyone always seems to think I'm out for blood, or white knighting hard core, so I actually really appreciate that comment. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} >my problem is that I am unable to request a human review and i need help with that. When submitting a ticket, it will initially be Vetted by BlitzBot. From there, it will be handled by a player support agent once available - times can range from 1-3 days really, it just depends on Player Supports work load. Resubmitting a new ticket, or providing an update on an existing ticket will reset your position in the queue. So honestly, at this point, it's best to submit the ticket and have a little patience whilst waiting for the response. Again, don't update or resubmit them, as this will just delay the process.
: I am well aware that u are not a rioter and a rightfully banned account cannot be recovered. As i said before i believe i deserve a ban not a perma tho. and as i said before my problem is with the request a human button and that when i click it nothing happense and thats what i need helpp with. this is a pastebin of chat logs https://pastebin.com/ZtstyUCW maybe im wrong and ull find this worthy of a perma, but if im not i will post screen caps to confirm it is unedited. (i didnt do it rn cause it takes a lot of time).
>I am well aware that u are not a rioter Just something I had to reiterate - people think or claim that I work for Riot all the time, so the minute anything like that comes out I just like to get in early ;). ----- Honestly, your logs definitely constitute a punishment of some sort, I'm not even going to try and deny that here. Whether it warranted an immediate escalation to a perma however, is interesting. There's nothing in here that sticks out at me that warranted more than the 14-day step stone, unless you have indeed had previous infringements (not accusing, just setting up the situations for explanation etc.). I'd say it's worth lodging a ticket to question why there wasn't a warning stage, however it's also worth noting that Riot can technically terminate anyones account at any time without warning or reason - there's a possibility there's an underlying issue that neither of us are aware of that could have also contributed.
: I thought saying "Kill yourself" was an instant ban?
Whilst Riot do tend to enforce a 14-day ban on certain types of flaming and behaviour, it's not always constant. I'm not saying it's the case here, but there are situations where someones record is otherwise perfect over an extended period of time, they can be hit with a restriction still. ----- You can also submit a ticket to support if you want to do an extra level of follow up. Realistically, we're never going to live in a world where it picks everything up with 100% accuracy, so sometimes it's going to happen. But if we don't bother at all, then it's going to deteriorate rather than indicate to these people that that type of behaviour isn't welcome.
: I don't recall being banned whatsoever, and to respond to IM Bula Bula, im not stupid and if was banned before i wouldnt come to lie about it here. where a rioter can just do a backup check and see my previous bans. and the reson why i didnt play is because this is my smurf and i dont play on it all the time. Also if you double check my match history i didnt play from 10/6 to 20/6 which is 10 days and not 14. Snarky Cyclone could u assist me more to get a human to review my case? I do realise that i deserve a chat ban or few days but i believe if a human reviews it its obviously not worth a permaban.
>Snarky Cyclone could u assist me more to get a human to review my case? I'm not a Rioter. I'm just another player like you. ---- Posting your unedited chat logs would shed a lot more light here. Doing so in a screenshot format from your report card would be preferred, as it limits any chance of editing.
: Wouldnt it be a good change then to cut the cooldown to 3:30-4minutes for Meele champions and keeping it on a 6 Minute cooldown for ranged champions or even putting it on 7 minutes for ranged champs? I mean thatway Meele toplaners actually got more windows to do something and it wouldn't be as good on the adc or midlane role so the bleeding process would be hindered
>Wouldnt it be a good change then to cut the cooldown to 3:30-4minutes for Meele champions and keeping it on a 6 Minute cooldown for ranged champions or even putting it on 7 minutes for ranged champs? Problem is that you're now essentially gutting any top laner that uses range in comparison. It also raises questions such as: What happens with Gnar? Does TP become a shorter CD when he's in mega? Same with other champions like Jayce and Nidalee.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=V1ycxx9h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-24T13:09:36.626+0000) > > Have you had a 14-day ban or chat restrictions previously? He says he did not. But I will assume he's lying, as he didn't play from 02/06 to 21/06 (> 14d), with the last 02/06 game being a loss with mates with 0/5 or 1/4 KDAs, I do believe he got banned for flaming them.
I mean, the only person it's detrimental to if they are lying is themselves. End of the day, the boards is here so we can offer insight and advice on posts like these. Any actual investigation and action would be on Riot's side, where they can see that information without issue. So I always reiterate the question just to give a chance to change it if it was infact, not the case.
ItSkip (EUW)
: Chat restriction
>How long does this period of 'proving' usually take It's based on game's played, and your behaviour within those games, with positive + neutral behaviour providing honor pregress, and toxicity and the such, of course, regressing it. Just continue to play and be positive and helpful with your comments, and you'll likely be able to achieve the required honour level before seasons end without issue.
: Recovering a permanently banned account
You can't recover a permanently banned account if it was justified. Posting your logs or ban reason will help people here identify with you where you went wrong. ---- Have you had a 14-day ban or chat restrictions previously?
: Remember the days where tp was unnerfed and toplaners actually could impact the game?
Problem is it became too strong, to the point where it was a MUST have, and then it bled across into other lanes. Completely understand why they did it. Although with the change to not being able to cancel it, I wouldn't mind having the duration or CD shortened a little to compensate - there's already added risk the minute you begin to channell it.
iahmad20 (EUW)
: Riot System Its Time To Go down
It's worth mentioning that the current system learns and is built off community input. The guidelines set within Riot's IFS were made by the community and its viewpoints on what is and isn't acceptable. So........
: Why am I chatbanned for this?
You spent each game being negative towards team mates, as well as including threatening to AFK and looking to place blame. I was going to pick apart your logs as an example, but your logs don't have _a single positive comment._ The entirity of your logs is, again, threatening AFK, blaming, or belitlling your team mates, as well as an attempt to try and "weaponize" the report system (I'm going to report you. You're so reported etc.). The fact is, no one wants to walk into a game where all someone is typing is messages like this. This is why you've been restricted.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g0philen,comment-id=00000000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T10:34:50.824+0000) > > Considering the small amount of data actually captured within League when you play, not really. > > The only "semi" reliable method (and it wouldn't even be that) would be IP/Location checking, both of which can be forged pretty easily. > > I think you're making the assumption that it's a lot easier to track than it actually is. Even if only those are the things that most reliable to say you can always just check to see if the same ip was used (since i doubt the hacker used the same ip as the op) even with the change in the ip from a router reset you can still see if the same class was given and location can also be checked cause i doubt a hacker that broke into your 1234 password email will bother to fake his ip to the same location as the op was playing in. There is also a change in champions playing flame increase troll increase and so on.
>you can always just check to see if the same ip was used (since i doubt the hacker used the same ip as the op If I wanted to, I could change my IP address every game. It's not difficult to do this, nor mask it. So anyone planning to do anything malicious would just do the same, and claim "hacked". >even with the change in the ip from a router reset you can still see if the same class was given and location can also be checked These details can also be easily faked or forged by even the not so tech savvy. >There is also a change in champions playing flame increase troll increase and so on. Not a reliable metric either. People have multiple accounts. I have an account I play on that I use exclusively for champions I'm awful with, but want to improve for whatever reason - and then will finally play for the first few times on my actual account. Behavioural analysis isn't always accurate either, as moods shift. Even the least toxic of people have games where they say something completely out of character - I'm guilty of this as well. Simply put, there's not enough data to be able to accurately asses if ones behaviour is their own or someone elses. EDIT: I want to add, I'm by no means saying "too bad so sad" to the user here. If they were legitimately hacked, it sucks. I get it. However, it's a case of that there's too many people out there looking to abuse any loophole they can, that ends up serving as a detriment to others.
: Riot WHY DO I ALWAYS GET AUTOFILLED?
Autofill depends on many variables, such as who's playing at what time of day, and what roles are in demand. If you're playing at off peak periods, for example the middle of the day on a Monday, and you're preferencing highly sought after roles, such as Mid and/or ADC, then you're likely to get autofilled a bit more frequently, as there's less players taking up the less popular roles, and with the lower player numbers available, it kicks in to avoid long queue times.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g0philen,comment-id=000000000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T11:12:05.411+0000) > > Prevantitive measures would be using a strong, unique password for your account, and avoiding any of the above. > > How though? What would prove it? I can fake my location (I use a VPN based in America for a few things, for example), and IP addresses can easily be changed and modified. There's no real accurate way to do this, which is why it's not done. > If you're upset with that, then you'd need to take it up with the people who use "hacking" as a illegitimate defence (I'm not questioning the OP here so don't take that out of context), because ultimately they're the ones that cause this. I am sure that a multi billion $ company can figure out a way to find if someone had their account hacked or not. And lets say they cant figure it out what is the purpose of permaban? Why not just give that person 5 days ban and let him get in touch with rito and see if he will try and recover his account/passwords. When he does invite him to put a stronger password on his account and also let him know that this will be his last chance on this account hackers or no.
>I am sure that a multi billion $ company can figure out a way to find if someone had their account hacked or not. Considering the small amount of data actually captured within League when you play, not really. The only "semi" reliable method (and it wouldn't even be that) would be IP/Location checking, both of which can be forged pretty easily. I think you're making the assumption that it's a lot easier to track than it actually is.
: Rules ? Ok, give me a proof from Riot themselves saying that . Hansiman just rules and control the boards from toxicity nothing else (With my full respect to you Hansiman <3) . Plus, people got better connection than others . Ok, one wanted mid and the one connected later wanted mid too. How you're going to solve that in blind pick players ? all of them plays Yasuo Zed Lux Ahri Morgana. Solve that for me <3
>Hansiman _**just rules and control the boards **_ This wasn't the agreement I had with him {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}} ----- Side note, as others have indicated, Blind pick does not have a set rule for who goes where - call order is sort of an unwritten thing between players, but is not the rule of the law, nor does it need to be followed. If you want to play a specific lane, draft pick is also available for this.
: Weather (aka fuc it's hot)
I'm Australian, but live in Germany currently. It's been getting to about 30-35 the last few days, and I've been absolutely loving it. My friends and partner are constantly complaining about the heat and I'm just sooooooooo happy. Though I can't fault them, they did have to put up with me complaining anytime it was colder than 10 degrees all through Autumn and Winter.
: but turks does have their own server where they can speak turkish freely on the other hand on eu servers almost 99% speak english so everyone in the server must adapt to the english language
Just as speaking Turkish isn't a requirement on Turkish servers, it's not a requirement for English on European servers.
Backstard (EUNE)
: Yes ofc you are not just like this game is not pay to win its free to play..... It's also worth indicating that after every single troll game that i lose i inform ALL players about how this game actually works.....You know the pay to win part of the game to be specific.... 2nd game in row with a ragequit in my team....All random events. Gotcha
>Yes ofc you are not I'm definitely not. You can find more information on my "green" status here: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/announcements-en/gmQTWs7V-reintroducing-the-volunteers >Are the Volunteers Rioters? Are they paid? As the group name would suggest, the volunteers are entirely voluntary - they spend their personal time to help out on the boards. But I'm not employed by Riot, nor am I a Rioter. > just like this game is not pay to win its free to play..... You can't buy items in this game with RL money that impact your in-game play, with the exception of champions which you are also able to unlock for free; and owning all champions is by no means a requirement to win, as you only play 1 at a time in game, nor are they required to be purchase with RL money. So the game is not pay to win. A pay to win game would be like "Pay $10 to get bonus LP per match" or "pay $15 to start the game at level 5" etc. That is a pay-to-win model. They're completely different. ---- Honestly at this point I'm just going to disengage. The conversations going around in circles and you're not open to the idea of anything being wrong except with everyone else.
Backstard (EUNE)
: Here is what i get from your post I am only here to attack you cause this is how i get paid
>Let's all agree with the Riot staff cause you know,we might get something out of it. It's worth indicating I'm not a Rioter. I'm just another player like yourself.
Re4p3rr (EUW)
: Does linking PBE to your main account affect your main in any way?
No, it doesn't impact your main account in anyway. It just creates a log in for you on the PBE server.
Shamose (EUW)
: > Why not give them the chance even if it takes consecutive bans. You get 3. Isn't that enough?
The answer is "no, we always need at least one more" {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Sοna (EUNE)
: If the offence in question clearly, according to riot, deserves a ban , you can use opgg to know if they got the deserved punishment.
>If the offence in question clearly, according to riot, deserves a ban , you can use opgg to know if they got the deserved punishment. If we're debating trolling or intentionall feeding, then yes I agree with you. However, chat restrictions, toxicity and flaming are not a clear cut 100% "this is the exact process every single time". There are variables that come into play that can reduce the severity of a punishment, for example, that only Riot has access to.
Raphtalia (EUNE)
: Permabanned for playing zoe support and responding to Adc flame
The ban would have had nothing to do with playing Zoe support. You would have received a different message, without chat logs, if it was a ban for trolling or the such. So that's not accurate. ----- Have you had previous punishments in the past?
: A quiet unfair ban
If you've had chat restrictions previously, as you've indicated, and continue to break the rules, a 14-day ban is the next step. It progresses like this, as if you are still disregarding the rules after chat restrictions, another isn't likely to curb your behaviour, so it needs to be stepped up. I would recommend removing the R word you used from your vocabulary, as it is a slur that most of society deem unacceptable these days, and doesn't have a place in League.
Backstard (EUNE)
: A lot of speculation for someone you know nothing about.Why is that? I never said i'm a good player,I never spoke about KDA you started it,i always start my game with the best intentions and i never flame or abuse anyone.... Yet i still get abused i still get trolled i still lose points because of trolls that should NOT be allowed to play ranked games.... Maybe the trolling situation serves Riot in other ways? Like for ex , keep giving us your money to stay out of this situation? Just saying
>A lot of speculation for someone you know nothing about.Why is that? because the conclusion can be drawn from this point in your post here: >matchmaking should work based on stats not just elo. Further bolstered by the examples you've provided below: >Let's say i have 40 vision score and 3-0-10 as support why should i get someone with 5 vision score and 0-10 ? KDA referred to >Yes control wards will prevent a troll from doing 0-10 you are right. KDA again >Stats mean EVERYTHING and >And who says KDA does't matter? I mean, you've referenced it multiple times. This is why people are drawing the conclusion that you're focusing on this metric, as you're using it as the guage for "who's boosted or trolling". >Maybe the trolling situation serves Riot in other ways? Like for ex , keep giving us your money to stay out of this situation? League will pretty much always be F2P at it's core. Adding a premium service won't change anything, you're just segregating part of the community who can't afford to.
Backstard (EUNE)
: First of all i didn't say i focus of KDA you did. Second i never feed and this alone helps my team a lot. Third in most of my games i'm "ace" according to op.gg that in fact works with stats. Forth it is obvious this is a team game and for some reason "unknown" most of the time if not all, i have to be in the troll team. If play stats were to be included in the matchmaking system i would get way better teams. Rank means nothing, the way you play the game means everything.
>First of all i didn't say i focus of KDA you did. A lot of your post and examples centre around KDA. Others have drawn the same conclusion - your view is very much focusing on this aspect. >Second i never feed and this alone helps my team a lot. This is subjective, because everyone claims that dying of any type is feeding. It's not. Deaths are going to happen. Deaths are not always necessarily bad either, and can be "wurf". >Third in most of my games i'm "ace" according to op.gg that in fact works with stats It will compare your metrics with others. This doesn't mean you are playing perfectly and utilizing objective control. It just means you're getting kills. >Forth it is obvious this is a team game and for some reason "unknown" most of the time if not all, i have to be in the troll team. If you're approaching people in your team the same way you are here, I wouldn't be surprised if you faced pushback. It's worth mentioning that your build is also not ideal for a support champion. You're essentially just building as a carry without farming, which is high risk, albeit high reward when it does work. You should be looking at ways to set up your team for success, and building items around that appropriately instead of just flat damage. If you're only going to set up yourself for success and ignore everyone else, then you can't get upset when others don't.
Backstard (EUNE)
: Let's say i have 40 vision score and 3-0-10 as support why should i get someone with 5 vision score and 0-10 ? No sir stats mean everything and if stil refuse it you either don't know anything about the game or you are on denial
>Let's say i have 40 vision score and 3-0-10 as support why should i get someone with 5 vision score and 0-10 ? Because this is the reality of a team game. If you don't want to play with other people, then don't play team games. On top of that, you work as a team to win this team game. If you're not providing assistance to your team mates because you're focusing to much on KDA's, then you're not going to win. You don't win the game by getting 100 kills. You win the game by securing objectives, and destroying the nexus. >No sir stats mean everything and if stil refuse it you either don't know anything about the game or you are on denial Multiple people are offering the same insights for you, and you're refusing to accept any possible form of criticism. I hope the irony isn't lost on you.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g0philen,comment-id=0000000000020000,timestamp=2019-06-21T10:21:36.295+0000) > > If you rented a car, and it was stolen and damaged, you'd be the one liable for it, not the rental company. > Unless i have insurance. > Same premise here. > It so not the same. If i get a rental and it gets stolen and i go to the police with evidence it was stolen i am not liable for it. > Then that sucks, but again, there's prevantitive measures to avoid that. > Like what? > If Riot were to believe absolutely everyone who said they were hacked when they broke the rules, no one would have a ban or restriction. We'd all just be saying we got hacked. They could at least investigate before insta permaban
>Unless i have insurance. If insurance was an applicable comparison here, sure. But that's not something that we're factoring in, as it's not an option. Besides the point insurance likely would not cover all of it, and even then it would be purely based on how the offender got access to the car if we want to focus on formalities. >It so not the same. If i get a rental and it gets stolen and i go to the police with evidence it was stolen i am not liable for it. You are liable for the damages incurred. Whether your insurance pays it or not does not change the fact that you were liable for the condition of the car. Insurance doesn't waive your liability. It just pays for it. >Like what? Contrary to popular belief, unless you're using very simple passwords, it's not so easy to "brute force" a hack. 99% of the time, the reason for a hack is usually one of the below: * You use the same login credential on other services with poor security. Password leaks, and people simply try the credential other places and find accounts that way - think if you had 1 key for everything, and you lost it. You'll likely lose more than just one thing from it. * You enter your credentials on a fake site that promises you a reward, but in reality it's a scam that only wants to steal your account. * Your e-mail has been hacked into, generally through the first listed method. With access to your e-mail, they can request a password recovery and delete the mail before you see it. * You've shared your account with someone that ended up using third party services on your account, with or without your knowledge. Prevantitive measures would be using a strong, unique password for your account, and avoiding any of the above. >They could at least investigate before insta permaban How though? What would prove it? I can fake my location (I use a VPN based in America for a few things, for example), and IP addresses can easily be changed and modified. There's no real accurate way to do this, which is why it's not done. If you're upset with that, then you'd need to take it up with the people who use "hacking" as a illegitimate defence (I'm not questioning the OP here so don't take that out of context), because ultimately they're the ones that cause this.
Backstard (EUNE)
: Stats mean EVERYTHING....I have lets say 20 vision score and all the rest of my team has 3. Thats not a stat to consider? And who says KDA does't matter?
>Stats mean EVERYTHING No they don't. You can win a game with negative stats in every field in comparison to the other team if you out rotate them and play your advantages right. >And who says KDA does't matter? Alright, lets provide an example. Your jungler is 0/2. If we're only measuring on KDA metrics, then we're going to assume this is bad. However, they may have died securing a dragon, pushing towers, or for another beneficial reason (e.g. leading a wild goose chase whilst everyone else pushes). I've won games where it's been 14/40. Others have done the same. It's not uncommon. Kills mean very little if you can't translate it into objective control. That's why you can lose when you're 20/0/10 still, because you didn't apply your lead to the area that matters: objectives. The popular term of this practice is "throwing". Edit: To nail this home, there was a game on reddit earlier this year where it was 3v5 (with 2 intentional feeders running it down constituting the 2 missing) and the score was something like 20/100+. The team of 3 won. Because the other team just focused on padding their scores and ended up throwing to where the 3 man group actually secured objectives and won.
Backstard (EUNE)
: Ranked System is Broken or Rigged
>The whole system is broken and soon this thread will be deleted cause you know , it's bad for business...... It won't, because you're not breaking any rules within the initial post. >The matchmaking system is totally broken cause i'm only getting really bad players who somehow got bosted to my elo. You can't jus make that call on anyone who is performing poorly. In every game, 50% of the people are going to win, 50% are going to lose. This means that it will be you, statistically around half the time, on the losing side. Because a player was beaten does not mean they were "boosted". Peoples skill levels, mental states, and lots of other variables shift and change. I quite frequently bounce between plat 4 and 1, doesn't mean I'm "boosted" when I'm on a bad streak, they happen. >matchmaking should work based on stats not just elo Stats can mean nothing, especially if you're referring to kills. Better objective control and rotations will win out over K/D/A focusing and numbers padding. >How are these really bad players the same as me? You're at the same skill level. I'm sure there's games where you've performed poorly as well, and others have thought the same. It's all subjective. >Why do i have to play just so i can lose games? Maybe because the enemy team paid more? Because 50% of the people are going to lose. If you can't accept defeat in a game where half of the people in it are going to lose, then you're going to keep having issues with it.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=g0philen,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T15:47:54.982+0000) > > I mean, it's the same concept if your house get's broken into for not using locks, or sharing access with someone else etc. > > If something goes missing, it's not your fault, exactly, but you are responsible for the actions that go to that point. > Except the account is not mine is riot? Why am i responsible for someone hacking rito accounts? > ----- > > Accounts can only really be stolen through sharing, entering your details on phishing websites, or having a password that is easy to guess/similar to other log ins you may have, that may have also been compromised. > > So yeah, all the ways they can be stolen are ways that are the players responsibility to prevent. > > otherwise "I was hacked" would be the go to defence for everything. What if he was hacked? Not everyone is a professional coder who can have machines to counteract the hackers. I cant the lol if i just a noob that knows how to press q w e r ?
>Except the account is not mine is riot? Why am i responsible for someone hacking rito accounts? If you rented a car, and it was stolen and damaged, you'd be the one liable for it, not the rental company. Same premise here. >What if he was hacked? Then that sucks, but again, there's prevantitive measures to avoid that. If Riot were to believe absolutely everyone who said they were hacked when they broke the rules, no one would have a ban or restriction. We'd all just be saying we got hacked.
neropa (EUNE)
: https://imgur.com/a/lZvBfg0
You beat me by 3 minutes. -_-
: I'm finally gold trash.
http://tinypic.com/r/20zr82e/9 Jokes aside, congratz!
: well, i ask them to watch replay to show me what they are blaming me for, or to show them an easy thing to spot on the minimap if they just pay attention (like denying plates from enemy team when it is easily possible) i ask only for about 5 minutes of their time, which is not a lot and yes, it is my place to discuss it, as they blame me for their own mistakes > I'd say it also depends on the delivery of the offer too. well, if somebody claims the same thing over and over, a request to talk on discord and watch replay is not a bad way of asking, isn't it?
So, whilst I understand your intentions are good, please don't misinterpret this response from me - it's purely to highlight why you might be having pushback here: >well, i ask them to watch replay to show me what they are blaming me for This is argumentitive - honestly I wouldn't bother responding to someone who propositioned me with this as the reason, regardless of whether it was my error or not - the only thing achieved here is trying to lay blame (which is why people won't). >show them an easy thing to spot on the minimap if they just pay attention I'm not sure how you word it, but the way you worded it here is rather condescending, and again, when you present something in this manner, people are a lot less likely to be receptive. ----- >well, if somebody claims the same thing over and over, a request to talk on discord and watch replay is not a bad way of asking, isn't it? Completely depends how you word that request and the social interactions leading up to it.
: guess what i did :) i made a screenshot and sent it to rito nothing happend :) i think wishing cancer is a no go and gives u a perma but it seems this particular rioter was ok with it to wish someone a deadly desease...
> i made a screenshot and sent it to rito nothing happend You don't know whether anything did or didn't. > i think wishing cancer is a no go and gives u a perma Not necessarily, it depends on the players history, as well as a lot of other variable factors. If, for example, it was the first time they'd ever done something like that in years of playing, a restriction may have been handed out instead.
Sοna (EUNE)
: > Do you have a source that they didn't receive a restriction or ban? Short answer is, you don't know. Only Riot and the person in question know if they've received a restriction or ban. You can look at their opgg, and if they keep playing the game, they're not banned.
OP.gg does not show chat restrictions - so depending on their offence and history, again, you can't tell.
: Why are people refusing to watch replay after the game?
>I tried several times to discuss ingame mistakes with players after them game, but very rarely anybody accepts it. Because it's not your place to discuss it with them after the game, unless they've requested help. Mistake has been and gone, they can take it on board and learn or ignore it. People don't like being wrong, highlighting that usually does not end positively. ----- I'd say it also depends on the delivery of the offer too.
: I love the Emissaries on the boards. They think that their word is gospel and tell you and everyone else who comes back at them with facts and truth is wrong. How, if someone hacks your account, is it your responsibility? If you left your password on a note on your monitor, sure. But someone actually hacking the account, either by brute force or somehow managed to crack the password, by someone who lives on the other side of the continent/planet is not the account holder's responsibility. Imagine if banks had the same stance on customers getting their bank accounts hacked into/money stolen. "Sorry, it's your responsibility for keeping your money safe." See how stupid that sounds? It's the same principle. It's the company's responsibility, if a person's account got hacked into by no fault of their own, to ensure their player's account is safe and secure (You can't really take stuff away from a league account). The worst thing that can happen is the hacker goes on an expletive spree in normals/ARAMs and gets the account banned. Honestly, Riot should be going about these situations differently. Instead of banning accounts and say "Sorry bruh, it's your problem", they should be helping victims.
>They think that their word is gospel and tell you and everyone else who comes back at them with facts and truth is wrong. Except have no point have I said that, quite often make errors (and openly admit it), and no facts were presented.
Declined (EUNE)
: If you leave your computer on at night, hearing beeps at odd hours stops being satisfying at some point. Although I do admit it has certain advantages, being able to react almost immediately to a situation can be quite beneficial.
: How can I get un perma banned
Submit a ticket to support here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us No one on the boards can assist you with this.
neropa (EUNE)
: I don't know about you, but this makes me happy.
My computer at home beeps at me whenever I get a response. It's very satisfying.
Stell (EUNE)
: it's not the same concept. we're talking about immaterial things vs. real life things. sure you can compare it like that but it's not even remotely like that. don't make a strawman here. I have insurance to cover that wrongdoing by someone i don't even know, if i'm on a holiday for 5 days and i come back seeing something's taken or broken, insurance covers that. But here nothing covers it. If a madass hacker decides to target and troll someone's account and succeeds while the owner is gone, the punishment for the account is whatever the hacker did: used 3rd party programs or whatever. And no insurance back's up that. Because the policy is purely and simply - naive and childish - it's your fault , thus the account is gone. If you want to compare it to reallife stuff like that, i can compare it too: If thief steals my car and goes and drives in the middle of a crowd and kills 20 people, is that even remotely my fault? no it's not. Talking about making strawmans. What i'm trying to say, there's no way for a player to defend themselves when their immaterial stuff is taken away from them. Sure, riot owns all the accounts blahblah and they can do whatever they want wit hthem, but then again it boils down to : how %%%%ing childish and naive customer service does riot have. edit: and how fakin primitivee is the system if riot, a multimillion company, can't fix whatever a hacker did, that the owner himself presented them. Instead they take the shortcut "your fault, banned"
>If you want to compare it to reallife stuff like that, i can compare it too: If thief steals my car and goes and drives in the middle of a crowd and kills 20 people, is that even remotely my fault? no it's not. Talking about making strawmans. No but you likely wouldn't get your car back either. >and how fakin primitivee is the system if riot, a multimillion company, can't fix whatever a hacker did, that the owner himself presented them. Because what stops me saying it was a hacker that did whatever got me into trouble? What stops you? What stops the person next door? The fact is there's no legitimate way to prove it. IP addresses can be changed, and all sorts of things can be used, and are readily available, even for the not so tech savvy, to mask their IP or location. So, part of it is because it is your responsibility to look after your own things, part of it is because this.
: Loggin into PBE
Think of it as a loading bar from the early 00's or late 90's if you're old enough to remember. (I can't believe I had to type that, make the ageing stop). It does it's best guess at "estimating" your position and wait time, however that is never going to be 100% accurate.
StChrono (EUW)
: Yes, and expecting people to change their language to suit you isn't really civil, nor polite. I disagree.
As of 2017, Mandarin is the most numerically spoken language, followed by Spanish, then English. I daresay that's probably still similar as of today. Guess we better get learning if we're going with the "expect everyone to follow the majority because I get angry when I don't understand everything" stance. ----- I reiterate. Speaking English is not a requirement to play League of Legends. It never was, it never will be.
Mvpersa (EUW)
: I got banned and i did nothing yet the Ban is correct(not a complain)
If you submitted a ticket during the time the "hack" was live, reiterate this with support. Whilst no one here can guarantee any outcomes, showing active attempts to mitigate or prevent it, whilst it was in progress, will definitely help solidify your claim.
Stell (EUNE)
: too bad riot is childish with these things, "it's your fault it's your account you're responsible for it" , so naively nothing can be done afterwards. rip.
>too bad riot is childish with these things, "it's your fault it's your account you're responsible for it" I mean, it's the same concept if your house get's broken into for not using locks, or sharing access with someone else etc. If something goes missing, it's not your fault, exactly, but you are responsible for the actions that go to that point. ----- Accounts can only really be stolen through sharing, entering your details on phishing websites, or having a password that is easy to guess/similar to other log ins you may have, that may have also been compromised. So yeah, all the ways they can be stolen are ways that are the players responsibility to prevent. otherwise "I was hacked" would be the go to defence for everything.
: That's quite interesting actually. Do i have to add the note for it to specify the offensive part or does it just deduce it by all the data it accumulated? And what about the severity. Because f* and Sh* aren't on the same level as N* etc User input in the report is needed then to help it i guess?
I don't know the inner workings, so I can't really answer that one. I just know it builds its guidelines based off community feedback. I always add notes anyway, just in case :) It can't hurt.
: it's a consistent behavior observed through about 6 years in Lol and 4~ years in Lineage We aren't the most pleasant people especially towards each other. must be some very elaborate system because our swearing and profanity is very convoluted and unique. Like i have no idea how the sentence "i want to throw on your brows" when translated can be picked up by the system xD
>Like i have no idea how the sentence "i want to throw on your brows" when translated can be picked up by the system xD The IFS learns based off what's reported (which as a side note, is why it's always so funny when the community insists that "Riot's" rules are too strict, not realising that these are built off community input). So if it's reported more than a few times, and the language/saying is consistant, then that's how it learns what it means (if it doesn't already), and then adapts to reacting accordingly.
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