: Riot Employee replies on boards.
This thread is probably _why _ they don't post as often. People seem to hold the expectation that if they reply to one thread, they have to reply to them all. So they just pop up occasionally instead *shrug*
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6iYy6Bib,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-28T10:29:49.589+0000) > > A little toxic? > Electronic jihad: I ll decapitate you > > How is this acceptable at all? I'm surprised you only got a chat restriction. You're essentially sending death threats, and making sexual assault jokes in other bits of your logs (seriously, that's not a joke. Don't use it as one). > > There's a difference between slipping up every once in a while, and _ essentially threatenting someone and making wildly inappropriate comments._ > > The system already allows for people with good records to slip up occasionally without punishment - god knows I've had a few games in my time where I've said some not so fantastic things - we all do. > However the level of toxicity here is way past that acceptable level. > > I'd say your good record is the only reason this wasn't harsher tbh. Am i right? How about taking this case for a manual review, pretty sure death threats fall under ZTOL, this guy needs a permanent ban, not a chat restriction. Make good use of your connections and do something to benefit this game.
>Make good use of your connections and do something to benefit this game. Doesn't work like that, unfortunately.
: For an old player, it isn't a big difference; but for a new player it is a big difference. If I lose my promos/a game I lose promotion chance/LP and an unranked player doesn't actually lose LP. So who will take it more seriously? The difference between unranked and ranked players is Experience. If player A is ranked with 10-20 games and matched with an unranked player, that isn't big difference; but if player A is ranked with 50+ games and matched with unranked player, there is a difference in experience. This grows bigger, especially if the unranked player is a new player.
>an unranked player doesn't actually lose LP. Yes and no. LP is tied with MMR. Whilst they don't have an LP metric to be graded on, their MMR CAN be and is. LP gains reflect your MMR - if you're receiving higher LP gains, it means you're performing better than where you are, and the system is trying to catch up with your MMR to place you correctly. Same in reverse. Literally the only difference is that they don't have a rank or LP metric. Their MMR metric, which LP is based off, is measured exactly the same (albeit it can be a little wonky as it figures out where people need to be, but they still face the same repurcussions from a loss - actually they lose more if they lose a fair amount of games early on I believe).
Player 123 (EUNE)
: So if cyber bullying is constantly happening in their own game and isn't prevented due to system cutting so much slack , if someone god forbids commits suicide due to this, Riot isn't liable anyhow? Won't take any actions? With this system "toxic one can shame you publicly, but won't get shamed back" is flawed on so many areas. Nobody that enters the game has any safety when it comes to toxic people. For example, Riot is ALLOWING a message to be sent in chat even if it contains swear words, racism etc. Instead of not allowing it to be sent and keep the chat clean so people don't have to mute each other or get frustrated from it, they give this person a 'freedom of speech' . Other specific games won't allow you to sent these kind of messages from the start or would modify them so there aren't any swear words and if it does have, it would completely change the sentence. With all this said, Riot purposely commits to 'oh i told them not to in the rules so i'm not viable' and doesn't take any actions regarding this.
>So if cyber bullying is constantly happening in their own game and isn't prevented due to system cutting so much slack The system does work, however expecting 100% accuracy is incredibly unrealistic. Could it be improved? Sure, it definitely has areas that needs work, however it does catch a lot of the things that are said. Riot are actively trying to reduce the amount of toxicity in games, behavioural or verbal. There is zero financial or business gain for them not to do so - toxicity and trolls is typically the biggest cause of player loss. > if someone god forbids commits suicide due to this, Riot isn't liable anyhow? Won't take any actions? They're not. There's been multiple legal cases with Facebook and other messaging platforms where precedent has been set. They offer the tools to stop these things, and actively try to mitigate it, but with millions of players, again expecting a 100% accuracy rate is just not reasonable. That doesn't mean I want to belittle the impact of toxicity on real players. It's a serious issue and can have adverse effects on mental health. And yes, Riot and us, the players, should be doing everything we can to mitigate it. >For example, Riot is ALLOWING a message to be sent in chat even if it contains swear words, racism etc. Instead of not allowing it to be sent and keep the chat clean so people don't have to mute each other or get frustrated from it, they give this person a 'freedom of speech' . Because you can have games of 5 v 5's that are pre-arranged, or teams of 5 that are all friends, who can realistically say whatever they want to eachother (provided they don't report eachother) - I mean, it's morally wrong with discriminatory subjects and jabs, I agree no one should spurt a lot of the vitriol that happens to be, but if they're keeping it within their private friend group, then they're not breaking the rules. > Riot purposely commits to 'oh i told them not to in the rules so i'm not viable' and doesn't take any actions regarding this. Again, they ban accounts all the time. Spend a week on the boards. I'm replying to those posts daily. There is zero sense for them not to combat it for the aforementioned reasons. But you can't expect them to be legally responsible for all the millions of players that play. That's like holding facebook legally responsible for any messages sent regarding illegal activities between users. It just doesn't make sense.
SayDaddy (EUW)
: my friend gift me 1650 rp
>what do you think That's the chance you take with gambling skin shards like that. You win some, you lose some. If you wanted an Irelia skin, it would've been better to just buy the skin, rather than gamble over a large multitude of them.
: Apologize
It happens sometimes - where things out of our control can cause us to AFK. I'm sure your teammates appreciate the apology, but don't beat yourself up over it :).
: While I agree that it is bad to generalize unranked= bad players, can't agree that giving only one team an unranked player is fair. I am always confused how can they have same mmr as someone from G4 or S1 or S2, with just few games played; this is more frustrating especially when they come in promos and their lane is lost within first 5 mins. They actually try to do something for team, but with less experience and not enough micro+macro, they just run down to 0/3/0 or so in first 10 mins. There should be an option for players to have some sort of prerequisites to be filled for their team mates if the matchmaking is going to be unfair and many don't really need their game within 5-10 seconds of queueing.
> I am always confused how can they have same mmr as someone from G4 or S1 or S2, with just few games played; Because it's not accurate until they're in the latter half of their placements. That's why you can gain or lose insane amonts of "lp", and your rank can change pretty drastically within the 10 games. >can't agree that giving only one team an unranked player is fair. Why? The only difference between them and someone that is ranked, is that the ranked people have already played their 10 games. That's it.
Huntér (EUNE)
: No it wouldnt be because both accounts are mine, I created them and Riot gives you no limit for accounts you can create. Also my friend plays on his account not on one of mines.
If they're on their own account it's fine.
Huntér (EUNE)
: Playing duo with my friend.
>So if I have 2 accs, both are mine created by me It would be considered account sharing, as both accounts are yours. Account sharing is a bannable offence, and I wouldn't recommend it for security reasons either.
Player 123 (EUNE)
: So cyber bullying, wishing death and racism isn't against the rules but this is?
>So cyber bullying, wishing death and racism isn't against the rules Pretty sure they get banned regularly, just spend a day here on the boards to see the countless "I was banned" . And technically that is illegal, but Riot isn't liable for their behaviour, so it's not something that faces legal ramifications on their side. I suppose you could pursue someone for Cyber bullying laws outside of it if you really wanted to, but again, Riot wouldn't be the liable party in this case - the person who flamed you would be. Riot publically outing someone, on the other hand, by their own actions and saying "this person was banned" would be a breach of privacy laws, and they would be liable for it as it's their actions.
Player 123 (EUNE)
: People often don't ask for much except to get a notification that this specific person is punished for his doings. Not even for that huh?
>except to get a notification that this _**specific person**_ is punished for his doings Yep, it still violates privacy laws. It's why IFS notifications are deliberately vague. The struggle with policing and internet culture is actually really fascinating, especially with GDPR making it's apearrance and the such.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2fjIMMTK,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T10:48:40.421+0000) > > I mean, you've set the expectation now. If I don't log in on 26/6/2133 and see a post from you, I'm going to be quite disappointed. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} > > > (jokes aside, it's just to do with the way the boards bans work). I don't think you can stay alive more than 100 years and me too
> [{quoted}](name=xStyrosx,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2fjIMMTK,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T10:52:58.867+0000) > > I don't think you can stay alive more than 100 years and me too Not with that attitude.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2fjIMMTK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T10:43:19.758+0000) > > I'll look forward to your first post in 2133. its possible only if someone already creating cryocamera
I mean, you've set the expectation now. If I don't log in on 26/6/2133 and see a post from you, I'm going to be quite disappointed. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} (jokes aside, it's just to do with the way the boards bans work).
: why i need to play all the %%%%ing time with unranked player when i get promoted to silver 2?
Unranked doesn't necessarily mean they're bad. It just means they haven't played their placements. This automatic assumption that someone that's un ranked is immediately bad is so weird. _**We literally ALL start off unranked. **_ Every season. Amazing. At Silver elo, you're also hovering around the average to slightly under average mark. Players who are doing their placements will likely wade their way through here as they move up or down the ladder to their appropriate rank.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2fjIMMTK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-28T10:39:16.405+0000) > > Riot don't handle bans. The Volunteer team do. If you want to discuss your ban, you can reach out to us on the EU boards discord. > > If it was a thread that was similar to many others (such as the recent spam of TFT threads), then yes, especially any with questions where a Rioter has responded, we are trying to consolidate them within one space, to avoid a page of essentially all the same threads. > > Unfortunately I can't really check your history when I'm on my mobile :(. no no , i don't need to discuss ban, its just pretty funny when ingame you can get perma ban and on boards you get 2133. Riot team really think this game can stay alive until 2133 ? {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
I'll look forward to your first post in 2133.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: RITO WE FINALLY DID IT
Riot don't handle boards bans. The Volunteer team do. If you want to discuss your ban, you can reach out to us on the EU boards discord. >PS what a clown deleted my message and marked it like " spam " if i post it only 1 time. Racist rito ? If it was a thread that was similar to many others (such as the recent spam of TFT threads), then yes, especially any with questions where a Rioter has responded, we are trying to consolidate them within one space, to avoid a page of essentially all the same threads. Unfortunately I can't really check your history when I'm on my mobile :(. Edit: Typing too fast and forgot words lul
: Creating LoL Miniatures (legal?)
As others have indicated, if it's for personal use it would be fine. If you're looking to sell these and create a profit off the basis of anothers intellectual property, then you would need to set up with an agreement with them to continue, otherwise it could get pretty messy legally.
: Human patience has a limit
>I admit that I was a little bit toxic A little toxic? >Electronic jihad: I will murder u till u die Electronic jihad: I ll decapitate you How is this acceptable at all? I'm surprised you only got a chat restriction. You're essentially sending death threats, and making sexual assault jokes in other bits of your logs (seriously, that's not a joke. Don't use it as one). >but how can you expect a person to stay calm after getting grief every game? There's a difference between slipping up every once in a while, and _ essentially threatening someone and making wildly inappropriate comments._ The system already allows for people with good records to slip up occasionally without punishment - god knows I've had a few games in my time where I've said some not so fantastic things - we all do. However the level of toxicity here is way past that acceptable level. I'd say your good record is the only reason this wasn't harsher tbh.
: Bot Lane Meta all over again.
>When I'm playing mid, and I'm farming, the moment I hear from bot lane "an ally has been slain", followed by "enemy double kill", I already know that from that moment, the game is already over, and there is nothing you can do to return. Roam and assist. You can roam early as well, to help them get a lead (pre 6) if it is something you're running into commonly. Especially if you have a lead - it's good to use this elsewhere as well, rather than just stomping the same person in your lane over and over.
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: Yes it is happening, I just did that twice in normal game (not trolled but was not playing, doing jungle or just afking) because in this season game IS decided in champ select almost everytime. I can count even games in this season on fingers of my hand and I played hundreds of them. Games are extremely onesided and snowbally. And most of the time there is no way to comeback especially if you don't have the right champions. Level advantage was never so powerful before runes reforged. Now with each rune scaling with level, even items scaling with level, summoner spells scaling with level player with right champion can 1vs5 teamfight (if his team goes in first and baits out some cooldowns). Good luck getting single cs after you died to enemy gank in toplane while you were shoved under tower and you didn't have tp to go back. Good luck killing fed tank or bruiser if you play mage and you lost your lane. The game is so incredibly one sided that this kind of player behavior is to be expected as the state of the game simply encourages it. So I don't blame players, I blame balance team for this mess.
>Yes it is happening, I just did that twice in normal game (not trolled but was not playing, doing jungle or just afking) because in this season game IS decided in champ select almost everytime. No it's not. I've seen awful team comps beat really good ones frequently. It's about your objective control and mastery of the champion. Of course it's going to be "decided" _**if you walk into the game deciding for yourself **_ that it's already lost, though.
Danitao (EUW)
: Yes, in my case I didn't know the follow up was a permabann after the 14 days warning. I know claiming not knowing it was the last chance,it's not a reason. The thing is I might be greedy to try change the whole system only because something happened to me, but with all honesty if someone can prove they have changed and improved and can keep on with the new improved mentality, what would be the big problem of giving them final chance? You all pointed facts which I understand, weres the heavyness of the perma bann if it can be removed, the heavyness I l Is in logging on seeing you permabanned ( my hearth stopped)and understanding you messed up hard u really just shot yourself in the foot there. After that if there's a way to get it back I can only talk for myself I would do my absolute hardest to get it back and sometimes it only requires a bit o faith and lot improvement ;)
>The thing is I might be greedy to try change the whole system only because something happened to me, but with all honesty if someone can prove they have changed and improved and can keep on with the new improved mentality, what would be the big problem of giving them final chance? It's not greedy. There's always room to challenge things (if done correctly of course), provided we all accept the fact that it may not necessarily slide in our favour. Side note: I'm glad your behaviour has improved though, if anything this back and forth indicates that you've become incredibly reasonable. Whilst that may not have been the case in the past, I feel that is worth highlighting here.
: Oh I see, not bad. And yeah i meant on time. You can stop playing games because you had enought of getting warned (like me lol) but you mean that if you get warned once in 100 games it's over. 100 games is like average 30-35 hours gameplay unless you stopped completely with the bad humour or you get banned because of 1 or 2 bad games in the time between you restart playing and the average 30 hours ending. But anyone that is tilted easely will have to mute everyone each game what makes the system imperfect but well rules are rules
>but you mean that if you get warned once in 100 games it's over. 100 games is like average 30-35 hours gameplay unless you stopped completely with the bad humour or you get banned because of 1 or 2 bad games in the time between you restart playing and the average 30 hours ending. I honestly don't know how many games are required. I pulled the number 100 out of thin air as an example. Riot are deliberately vague here as to avoid people gaming the system. >But anyone that is tilted easely will have to mute everyone each game what makes the system imperfect but well rules are rules And they'll progress slower. Again, positive behaviour will speed up the process, neutral (such as muting and not talking at all) will progress it slowly, and negative behaviour... well yeah.
n1lce (EUNE)
: You are right but I got banned again for the same reason but that time we were all friends and they were saying to and we were having fun and I got banned for 2 weeks.
Your behaviour won't be reviewed if no one reports you. So you did something in that game that caused someone to do so, possibily a comment in all chat. Or one of your friends reported you.
: You're right, only sad thing is that Riot's warning system doesn't decrease on time. If you had 2 warnings 1 year ago and the third is yesterday as exemple. It's over for you but that no one knows it and one tilted game can end you hahaha
>only sad thing is that Riot's warning system doesn't decrease on time. It does decrease, however _**the metric is not measured on time elapsed.**_ It's measured on games played, and your behaviour within them. If you played 100 games over a year, or 100 games in a month, with the exact same behaviour in both, you'd have equal progress to resetting it. It's all about your behaviour within those games that affect it. Positive behaviour will push it faster. Nuetral will progress, albeit slowly. Negative will regress, or result in further punishments.
: It also seems that someone reported the other that game. Since the bot doesn't check games unless there is a report.
>It also seems that someone reported the other that game. Since the bot doesn't check games unless there is a report. That would be correct. Sometimes when people are playing with groups of friends in 3's and 4's, they forget that there's a couple of others tagging along for the ride, and can be, whilst completely normal to them, inappropriate for the other parties involved. That's why the whole "I was with friends" thing doesn't fly. Because there was somewhere there that wasn't a friend, and was obviously pushed enough to utilize the report feature.
n1lce (EUNE)
: no 1 player reported me the ather 3 are my friends
And obviously you've said something that has upset them and is against the community guidelines, otherwise we wouldn't be here. All of this is irrelevant without your unedited chat logs.
Danitao (EUW)
: I understand you're talking facts, because something similar happen the level 30 challenge, you base your opinion around what happened, and its logical I can see your point. But I want to believe there place for improvement from the players and also the system that could lead to a better more healthier community
>But I want to believe there place for improvement from the players and also the system that could lead to a better more healthier community I do too, trust me :). And the system **_does_** need improvement, I'm not here to argue against that at all. I just believe that there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and a heavy consequence applied if people choose to ignore the previous warnings in forms of restrictions and 14-day bans. Edit: Whether that be adding another, longer ban stage, or tweaking the current options, or a complete system overhaul, then whatever really. I just believe that there's always going to be a place for the "perma"
n1lce (EUNE)
: I got permabanned
You don't get permabanned from one offense (unless extreme, or in certain _very rare_ occasions). Bans also don't get over turned if they're justified. Posting unedited chat logs from your reform card will allow the community to help identify where you went wrong. Ommitting this tends to indicate you're hiding something, and no one can offer advice on how to improve your behaviour in the future without them. Edit: >Is toxic when u are playing with a friend and u are talking trash to them for fun? Depends what you're saying. There are other people present, and you need to take them into account too. Obviously something said here crossed a line, which is why one of the players reported you. If you want to convey something that might be inappropriate for others, but fine with you and your friend, utilize the /r in game messaging option.
Danitao (EUW)
: Don't trust human nature trust then human potencial that is limitless the thing is what I propose I a once kinda of thing which means it will only work once and no more
I envy your optimism whilst I wollow in my pessimism and existential dread. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} I mean, results may vary for sure, I'm just basing my thoughts off previous similar iterations, albeit shorter.
Danitao (EUW)
: The thing is you need to get honors in game in order to rise in the levels of honor it's not a guarantee you get honored so you always have to try your best in every game to maximize the chance of getting said honor. Levels if you play the game you eventually will arrive at destined point has with other if you don't work for it you won't get there
As I said, I understand the premise. I just believe removing the consequence, or having the potential to remove the consequence, means it carries a loss less weight, and doesn't convey the message as well, opening to repeat offenders. Again, understand, just don't agree with because I don't trust human nature.
FaroseFR7 (EUW)
: You know that all of this was after the only non-premade player (soraka) threatened to go andf after went afk after dying several times
We're not talking about their behaviour. Your's and their's are viewed as completely seperate entities. Honestly I'm not really interested in the reason either. Pretty much everything other than unedited chat logs is biased hearsay, and not reliable in regards to what was said, so it's best to not factor it at all. To repeat; this is a response to your behaviour, just as any infringement they received would be a response on there's, should they ever try to claim "but it was the other person". This isn't about the other person. This is about your response as well. Just because another mis-behaves doesn't green light you to do it too.
Danitao (EUW)
: The thing is can hard grind in a month an account to level 30, but to get level 5 honor, first you to be honored in games and not every game u win honors so you would have to try in game to be s better person in order to have as many honoors possible
I understand the difference, but my _personal_ opinion here is you're just running the same program, with a longer time schedule attached to it. I dont _personally_ think it would yield any different results.
: I'm afraid this'll go down the CCP patch, the quality will slowly drop until they'll just ditch the paid support altogether and have it run strictly by volunteers. 8 years. I wonder if the person that's going to be dealing with my ticket (whenever that will even happen, if ever) even knew what this game was back then.
I can see Eambo has picked it up and responded to you, so I'll leave it there :).
: Alrighty. Why do the "specialists" on player behavior dealt with TFT issues? Why am I still waiting even though it's been a week since my last ticket? Check. Edit: Wait did I seriously send that message without... Why are they claiming that I am able to reply to a ticket when I am not? Check mate?
>Why do the "specialists" on player behavior dealt with TFT issues? I'm not a Rioter, nor do I work for them, nor am I Player support. So honestly, no idea. >Why am I still waiting even though it's been a week since my last ticket? I'd suspect there's a large influx of tickets currently causing a delay. >Why are they claiming that I am able to reply to a ticket when I am not? Because, my guess is that it's some sort of error unique to you, and not something that can be identified on their end. Please don't misinterpret this as any sort of blame, this is not a blame laying situation, nor am I usually interested in laying it, but it's likely that because they can't recreate the issue on their end, that they're not able to resolve or look into it. That would be my best educated guess. Edit: Can you give me the ticket number you are having the issue on? I can ask about it, but that's really the extent of what I can do.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hG6ks6Tc,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T11:17:35.171+0000) > > Without chat logs, anything you're saying is hearsay. > > This is also not about someone elses ban or restriction, you're opening discussion about yours. I am opening discussion for all the players... i am close to 100% that smone that uses hate speech and verbal doesnt get banned in 1 game... Thats my point... Fix it start immediate bans... See the community after
>I am opening discussion for all the players You're right, I apologise. Reading multiple threads at the same time lead me to misinterpret yours. I need to sleep. > i am close to 100% that smone that uses hate speech and verbal doesnt get banned in 1 game... Thats my point... Fix it start immediate bans. They do typically, however there's a lot of contributing factors that come into play when handing our infringments, most of which only really Riot knows.
: Anyone know the usual response timer for support ticket?
>I can't reply to my ticket and when I'm making new ones Every time you update a new ticket it resets your position in the queue. I'd say this is probably contributing to your wait time a bit as well. 1-3 days is a pretty typical turn around time, however. It realistically depends on their ticket load. I'd assume there's quite a significant increase as of late with various issues and the new release of TFT.
Danitao (EUW)
: A Second Chance To Change!!
>Remember sometimes you only realise what you were doing wrong until its to late its, and people deserve a second chance if they can prove they have changed, You're right. _But people already do get a second chance._ It's incredibly rare to be escalated to an immediate permanent ban. Almost all players hit a 14-day day ban before they are escalated to a perma. ------ Riot have also actually tried something similar to your suggestion in the past, I believe, not so much with honour levels (as they weren't a thing then), but as it was leveling from 1-30 without infringments on a new account. IIRC, very few actually made it to level 30, and a large portion of those that did reverted to their behaviour, once the consequence of their previous actions had been "lifted". It's, unfortunately, the same for most similar trials they run. I'm not saying that people can't reform, it happens frequently. However, remove the consequence of the previous actions, and certain behaviours tend to re-emerge within the majority. It's one of those "you've made your bed, now lie in it" situations. It sucks, but it serves as a reminder to keep your behaviour honourable.
FaroseFR7 (EUW)
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Couple things. Spam. Lawd, so much unnecessary spam. >FaroseFR7: njob FaroseFR7: open pls FaroseFR7: i run it down Holding the game hostage. You may think this was a joke between you and "Mundo", someone obviously didn't read it that way. You need to realise that your social interactions include your WHOLE team. Not just your friend. If you're acting up and being disruptive, it doesn't matter if it's with your friend or not. >FaroseFR7: x9 soraka FaroseFR7: afk FaroseFR7: sweating lol FaroseFR7: you must be lvl 300 and still be iron FaroseFR7: because of riot FaroseFR7: i hope they can make a normal balanced fun original gamer FaroseFR7: they cant FaroseFR7: is that how sweaty you r FaroseFR7: garen FaroseFR7: i hope FaroseFR7: you FaroseFR7: get to bronze 1 day FaroseFR7: caitlynn x9 FaroseFR7: pedophile FaroseFR7: i am 17 FaroseFR7: underage FaroseFR7: garen FaroseFR7: hahahaah FaroseFR7: lol FaroseFR7: trash\ FaroseFR7: garrenehahahahj FaroseFR7: needs to boost his kda FaroseFR7: sweaty FaroseFR7: tryhard Really all of this is just... a cess pool of nonsense.
Bwuah (EUW)
: Just because they misbehave doesn't mean you're allowed to do what you want. You deserve to be banned independently of them. They deserve to be banned independently of you. But don't try to right your wrongs by arguing someone else is unbanned. That's not how justice works.
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hG6ks6Tc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-27T10:58:58.634+0000) > > Depends on the severity of your toxicity. If you want to post your unedited chat logs, people can shed light. > > However, without those, you're not likely to get any discussion about it. someone wishes cancer t yr loved ones... dont u think its okay to insta chat ban him immediately after he said it? Am i that uinreasonable?
Without chat logs, anything you're saying is hearsay. This is also not about someone elses ban or restriction, you're opening discussion about yours. EDIT: BASK IN MY SHAME
: About banning
Depends on the severity of your toxicity. If you want to post your unedited chat logs, people can shed light. However, without those, you're not likely to get any discussion about it. Edit: Misread post. Will leave my shame for all to see though.
FoNum (EUNE)
: RIOT SUCK MY %%%%
The service status is public knowledge. You are aware of the issue, and accept the risk when you queue up and play anyway. This is akin to, say for example, a warning at the beach of strong currents, but swimming anyway. You accept that there's an increased chance of something bad happening, but continued to do so anyway. Same premise. If you don't want to accept the risk, then read the sign and stay out of the water. Edit: I'm not saying it doesn't suck, it does. I get it. But there's already warnings in place.
: can u give a link for discord
: i have a question why tf do u ban me for a made up word, a made up insult never existed in english language or any dictionnary before "downvoteholic" ? how tf is this bannable u didn't know the word existed before yesterday and already consider it a bannable offense this is ridiculous now do i need to speak in sign language or through gifs to not get banned?
I've looked through your violations, and that's not at all why you received the ban. If you want me to discuss this publicly I can, however if you'd prefer to keep it confidential, shoot me a message in Discord.
Εlin (EUW)
: Is this a good average KDA for support role?
You shouldn't be gauging your performance purely on KDA. Objective control is always the highest priority, along with vision control and setting up your team for success, from the support role. KDA is of course, impactful, but should not be the "be all and end all" metric you use to measure your performance. However, for your question, that KDA is good. Lowering deaths of course, would be nicer, but your kill participation far outweighs your deaths (4 kills per 1 death).
: Item Concepts - Tier 3 boots?
I miss the boot enchants of old :(.
Karnelies (EUW)
: are smurfs bannable?
Smurfs in anywhere but ranked tend to be put together - the system is pretty good at detecting people who have obviously had past experience vs those that don't. Ranked would be the only place it's different, where you're matched based on MMR, so if the account has lower MMR than where you should be, then this is when it get's messy. It's something that Riot has said they're not entirely happy about, but they're not inclined to stop it either. Partly because there's nothing wrong with having multiple accounts (I do, I use another to test out things or learn new champions that I want to learn), and partly because it would be almost impossible to police. It takes 2 seconds to make a new email address and a league account. IP addresses can be changed and masked as well, if they even wanted to look into that avenue, which would open a whole different issue all together.
: Why is there no Godzilla Cho'Gath?
They'd have to change the model to match, the two shapes aren't anywhere close. I'd also imagine there's a can of worms with copyright nonsense, depending how "close" they'd want to be to the original iteration.
: Reporting for afk is really rarely usefull honestly, 99% of the time leaverbuster already catches them and you can see that they'd been caught since you weren't able to honor them and they have that little cross on them too
Leaverbuster is pretty effective, yes. If it's for a reason beyond the persons control, or wasn't an obvious rage quit, personally I don't tend to report AFK's - life happens, I had a game where I had to dash away for 2 minutes the other day because my flatmate managed to smash her window - and of course, loud bang, I needed to investigate. Team was very understanding, thankfully, but that's why I tend to hold off on reporting them unless there was a behavioural pattern leading up to it that lets me draw a conclusion it was intentional. But that's just my personal stance.
HGHam (EUW)
: Reporting a player for afk while Riot has this server issue
Leaverbuster tends to do it automatically anyway. Realistically that's up to the player though, whether they want to report it or not.
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