: Rage quitting or leaving midgame if you are losing
If riot would simply track how often one quits in a game where you do poorly and seperatly tracks games quit where someone else on your team does really poorly then this could help punish repeat offenders (once or twice you still have real life as a believable excuse but if you left 8/10 games where you had a 0:5 start or another one of your team mates had a bad start then it gets rather obvious you rage quit often).
: >As far as i know intro and beginner bot games only give xp till a certain lvl (maybe 10?). So afterwards accounts that bot need to go into the intermediate queue nevermind normal. And the simple way to get rid of them is to not give any xp/first win for intermediate bot games where kda is below 2 over multiple games (maybe 3 out of 4 games have a kda below 2 and you get no exp anymore until you had 3 intermediate bot games in a row with kda better than 2). Sure this might rarely hit new players who are bad but overall this is a small price to pay and should affect very few anyway. And similarly if bots then go to normal queue (probably as a group of 5) then the same applies. Play horrible to many games in a row (in very low elo) and no exp until you do okay again. This way bot leveling should >basically stop. They will just go to play draft or blind pick.
If the bots wont get exp against riots bots due to beeing to bad then they stand no chance whatsoever against actual humans and if the same principle applies they wont get any exp there either. Overall this would probably just mean that bots improve but the numbers are likely going down too as fewer would be able/willing to make good enough bots.
: Bot levelling wouldn’t stop, bots would just improve. The reason bots act like this is because it’s the bare minimum for what they need to do so no reason making them more complex, with this change the bare minimum increases and therefore bot behaviour will be changed (can’t get a bad KDA for playing safe, bot AI will likely be changed to play safer rather than int, slower games but you’ll get the exp). Thing about the people who make bots is that they are smart, there’s no real way to stop bots without %%%%ing us over
Right now about 2/5 players in the intermediate games are bots. And these bots just run into one random lane at some point and right click at red (enemys) sometimes press QWER every now and then and leave if hp go below a certain % (use heal too) then come back into another random lane. That is basically all that bots do right now. If you have experience in programming then it probaly wont take you an hour to programm this but even if you have experience making a bot that actually plays okay (there are over 100 champions your bot could play against) would certainly take a while.
PurpleOrk (EUW)
: You could do all sorts of stuff to make bots not worth it. But Riot is not going to. Each of those bots is leveling an account to lvl30, at which point it will be sold to someone. That new owner, with OBVIOUSLY zero problem with spending real money on a f2p game, will then start buying all their favorite skins and stuff with real money. According to Riot, they ban them "in waves" once every few years or who knows when, but when they've spent money already. Bots work for Riot, don't expect them gone. It would be losing them money to make any move against them in this stage.
But Riot could just sell lvl 30 accounts by themselves why are they not doing that?
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: It would be nice if they actually listened....
Spread the word bully i mean convince others to do so too.
: You can remake if someone is idle/afk, the rule is they cannot move or perform any action. I've remade many games like these, although there should be a way that if someone doesnt get any exp in the first 3 minutes u can remake and the person is considered as a leaver.
Do you really think i dont know how the remake mechanic works? I got it explained from a rioter after i contacted support because i had an afk in a game that could not be remade because while afk he was NOT DC. That is why i wrote this after all.
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: dude. just pick toplane as secondary. whats the issue.
That i do not want to have to game the system that way because as i already wrote i know and use this trick but would rather (at least for now go mid/supp if i could get mid most of the time and not supp instead. Rigth now i barely have to play as supp anyway.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >When i say i want to pick supp as secondary/tertiary then i mean i get it at the rate that is required to fill the games due to lack of supps (people that do not have primary role supp) not i get supp almost all the time. but that is how unpopular support role is, if you dont want to play supp you dont get into matches :D, if you want to only play support when there is no support then you get it all the time :D at the first iteration of role selection any other role had to w8 in queue for 5-10 mins just to get into a match, my longest queue time as support was 3 seconds but since then they tweaked the system so you get faster matches, but still the shortest queue time is on support
Okay i should clarify that i do not mean that now i get to fill as supp most of the time when i offer supp as secondary/tertiary but rather i get to play that role a bit more often compared to players that dont want it at all but not a lot more often and in exchange i can have another primary role pretty much in almost every non supp game. I do not think that this would suddenly lead to way to many players also only wanting to fill as supp so it should be possible to implement (at least in not very high elo) but i could be mistaken. Also lucky i saw quite longer Queue times when i asked for supp though i was premade with the adc but that shouldnt mean i get almost normal queue times..
Tarolock (EUNE)
: supp is the least desired role, if you go mid/top you get a lot of mid too, since top is somewhat popular too, but once you go support you prolly get it more than 60% of the time i usually go for support/mid to make sure i always get support, and it works so far, since they added role selection i played 1 times mid and once top as an autofill and the rest of the games were always supp (unless i went with premades)
You just confirmed the problem i mentioned so the current system is not what i mean. When i say i want to pick supp as secondary/tertiary then i mean i get it at the rate that is required to fill the games due to lack of supps (people that do not have primary role supp) not i get supp almost all the time. It was the same years ago when i wanted to go top lane and maybe sometimes jungle too but top/jungle will throw me in the jungle most of the time and not just a few times so i went top/mid and it worked out and when i wanted jungle then i simply would get it for sure.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: this is the system we currently have, you have primary and secondary roles, where you get your primary role more often than your secondary and you fill depending on supply this only gets more complicated if you main mid, mid is the most contested role so you prolly wont get it much
Not really i rarely get assigned supp but quite a few times top. (mid/top) however if i go mid/supp i see supp a LOT
Tarolock (EUNE)
: because how would you implement it? they tried everything from not giving you any chance to declare your role (the old system where you had to fight for your role in champ select) through role select without autofill (where queue times jumped from a few mins to over 40-50 mins (even 90+ around the top of the ladder), through role select where you could exclude a role you dont want to get (it was supposed to be a test for 2 months on the OCE server but it got so bad that they reverted the whole thing after a few days) to the current one where you can pick 2 roles you want to play + autofill
Add the option that you can say you fill a certain undesired role but only assign that role either for a certain % of games which depends on supply and demand (but does consider that everyone gets to fill sometimes so its not like now where the person that says i fill will almost always see a fill role) or by a system that will give you supp every 10 games or so guarenteed or whatever is needed to have a stable supply of supps given that some players do main that role so at most in every fifth game you will get supp with that. At least in not very high elo there should be plenty of players that make the later option possible too.
: It isn't beneficial to leave queue. You lose lp and wait a certian period of time before you can queue up. Having time wasted in your short life is the punishment.
You missunderstand. I do not mean leave once champ select starts but before. There is no LP loss in what i meant.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: there is no way to implement what you want, if you dont want to play support in every single game just pick any other role as your secondary, if you get autofilled on top of that youll get autofill protection so you get one of the 2 roles you picked for sure, thats still better than getting your offrole/support more than you would like
Do you work for riot or why would there be no way to implement this?
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