: Why do people care so much about their rank?
cause i'm a good player. getting bronze or silver is an insult. I am no where near as %%%%%%ed as those people.
kiwishrew (EUW)
: Self-Serving Bias: The Great Hypocrisy at the heart of League of Legends
I wish for a game to get carried in. Don't think of myself as a challenger player (i'm more like low plat) But if I really try to think hard... It's been a few years since i got carried, It's usually me dragging the teams kicking and screaming to the finish line. (and if it has not, it's been like once in the last 6 months at least) Gods honest truth, i'm usually the one to get the best creep score, one of the best KDA's (cause KDA does not matter but i always aim to stay positive), definitely the most towers, most damage, most objective control... and i know how to play the macro game. Then my team all groups up mid and decide to fight 4v5.... cause ofc they do.
jackaNL (EUW)
: STUCK IN SILVER BULL**** HELL!!!
Make a new account. watch your MMR skyrocket.
: S and a ranks... 6/10 lee sin, 4/11 jax, 2/7 jayce after a quick look at your match history
You might want to look at this accounts level the next time you wanna snoop and point out games. I used this account to show my wife how to play, lol
: intentionnaly loosing games
I'm going to be one of these players now. Going to make a new account and all i'm going to do is troll. If you can not beat them, join them.
: You are not that good either. I looked at your match history. I thought like you before too. But then i accepted that im bad and the other players are playing in the same rating as me so they qre as bad as me.
every single game i go into, I end up getting A ans S ranks, my kda is good, my cs is great etc etc. but every lane i'm not in goes 0/8 by 10 min. but yano.... im a bad player. Obviously.
Ciumegu (EUNE)
: The teemo in this video is 90% of the guys in this forum LMAO
I used to be Braum, Then I turned into Ryze because the bullshit make me die inside. And now i'm Nidalee, CAUSE %%%% YOU ALL.
Rismosch (EUW)
: 10 games are nothing lol Go get that winrate in 100 games and we are talking.
i realise the rule of averages levels out after a a good 100-200 games. But i can also say the same for last season, out of 200 games I had a 35% win rate, I kept a record of the games. I kid you knot i got something like 65 of those games had an afk'er on my side. enemy afk'ers = 4 So i will say it again. "Solo Queue is all about consistency and YOUR performance. It doesn't matter if your team tilts or not" I call it BS.
Rismosch (EUW)
: No, I am not wrong. Solo Queue is all about consistency and YOUR performance. It doesn't matter if your team tilts or not, the important thing is that you don't tilt. If you play many many games, single games are almost meaningless and only your overall performance matters. So if you never tilt, your winrate should go up a bit. And _/mute all_ can help preventing tilt. Also if you mute everyone, you don't know if your team tilts or not. What if in the last game your team actually didn't tilt but only you? Of course that's unlikely, but in some cases this will be true. And if you mute everyone, you will never know which player is tilted and who is not, and again only your performance matters. It's stupid how effective _/mute all_ is, yet for whatever reason, most people don't use it. I highly recommend you using it.
The last 10 games I've played in ranked had me consistently getting S's, in fact, most if not all have been A to S+. Yet I don't have a decent win rate. out of those 10 last games i have had 1 win. The rest were botlane going 0/8 in 10 min and game over. "Solo Queue is all about consistency and YOUR performance. It doesn't matter if your team tilts or not" Yeah, a few years ago i would agree with you, now? I call it BS.
: WHERES THE DAMN BIRD RIOT
"Welcome to the new League of Legends Champion spotlight, this week featuring "Swain, he now looks like Lucius Malfoy" No Beatrice *one of the fundamental aspects of his character*, no turning into a giant demon-Beatrice anymore, no "old and feeble man > OMG IT'S A GIANT CROW WHO IS EATING MY FACE!" Just saying, i think they missed the mark on champion identity.
GLurch (EUW)
: >Games are also supposed to be fair and competitive. not just "fun", fun is for normals, ranked is for serious competitive gameplay (of which 2/10 games are) In my honest opinion, if you don't have fun being competitive, you shouldn't play ranked either. If you want to make League of Legends your job by becoming the next E-Sports talent, that's another story. Most of us, except those rare people who managed to make games their job or are planning on doing so, play games for fun, not to work till we collapse. If it comes to that point, you may want to check if you're not addicted. >And quite honestly, using your argument of being "fun", I could find some "fun" and enjoyment by trolling team after team while occasionally making it look like i'm a bad player so I don't get banned. I could find each and every game a fun experience by watching my team lose their minds for completely valid reasons. In my opinion, if you have fun doing that, don't care for others and have no problem facing the possible consequences, go for it. However, these people should then also not complain, after all, they just acted the way they chose to and should have been aware of the consequences. If they were not, only they are to blame, after all, they signed the Terms of Use which clearly listed all possible consequences for them. I won't be there to stop you if you're completely fine with what I just mentioned. I don't have the power to do so either. I'm not here to force others to obey my perfect view of how society is supposed to act and care for each other. For Riot, it's a different story. They have to act based upon the majority of the people. They can't let 4 people leave because of the enjoyment of a single person. They'd lose lots of money if they acted like that. For them, losing one person and having 4 others continue enjoying the game is a much better business.
> [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mXXFEp0v,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-01-22T13:24:10.294+0000) > > In my honest opinion, if you don't have fun being competitive, you shouldn't play ranked either. There is a very big fundamental difference here, I have fun being competitive but what I don't find fun is having time wasted by someone who wants to ruin the game, some one disconnects or when a game is decided within the first 10 min with very little comeback because 1 lane has gone out of control very very fast. There are 2 variations of game mode, normal and ranked. The same principle applies to both of them that it is wrong that 1 player has the power to completely derail a game, cause an incredible amount of grief on his/her team and hold you hostage. But in Ranked you should be expected to play competitively and accordingly banned from ranked if a player is seeking to grief the other players. This is not the case. It would not be an issue if it was not so common. >If you want to make League of Legends your job by becoming the next E-Sports talent, that's another story. I don't want to be an E-Sports talent, to suggest and imply so is nothing but cheep ridicule. I want quality games. Something that should go without saying. > Most of us, except those rare people who managed to make games their job or are planning on doing so, play games for fun, not to work till we collapse. If it comes to that point, you may want to check if you're not addicted. I play games for fun, this has nothing to do with it being a job/chore or addiction. This is about quality. It's not fun to have your time wasted by a troll, every game with a troll and Afk or a player who goes 0/8 in 10 min negates a previous win instantly. So on top of a troll/feeding game (30ish min) yet another (30ish min) is wasted because you are set back to a previous point. As I said, It would not be an issue if it was not so common. > In my opinion, if you have fun doing that, don't care for others and have no problem facing the possible consequences, go for it. What consequences? Not only Is it common knowledge that people rarely get banned, the players can and do have multiple accounts and don't care 1 bit about the consequences because they will just make a new one. Rinse and repeat. Let alone how many countless games will they ruin before they get banned (if they ever...) So do you honestly think it's acceptable that if said players find it fun that they should carry on? As I said, It would not be an issue if it was not so common. >I'm not here to force others to obey my perfect view of how society is supposed to act and care for each other. Nether am I, I'm asking for quality control. for 1 game mode. I don't think it's too much to ask for. I have played this game since season 1, it never used to be this bad, sure there has been trolls since the very beginning. But never this bad. > For Riot, it's a different story. They have to act based upon the majority of the people. They can't let 4 people leave because of the enjoyment of a single person. So I should leave because the trolls and toxic people outnumber me? That's not fair... All I ask is for there to be stricter regulations on 1 game mode so that players who actually want to play I'm not asking to change the entire game, well... Aram should actually be all random too... but that's a different matter. Or at the very least safety nets for the victims of trolls/afks/feeders. You know, something like the simple suggestions we see from players all the time, losing less LP for any of the above, actually banning players (from ranked, not account ban unless trolling)...etc. >They'd lose lots of money if they acted like that. For them, losing one person and having 4 others continue enjoying the game is a much better business. They would get more money improving the quality of the game. Happy customers = more money, more people playing, even more money. How it used to be and this game got so popular in the first place. And as a side note, I am leaving too. for all of the above. I'm done.
GLurch (EUW)
: Goodbye and I wish you the best of luck wherever you're moving next to. Games are supposed to be for fun and if you don't have fun playing a game, no matter the reason, no matter if it's true or not, you should find something better to spend your time on.
Games are also supposed to be fair and competitive. not just "fun", fun is for normals, ranked is for serious competitive gameplay (of which 2/10 games are) And quite honestly, using your argument of being "fun", I could find some "fun" and enjoyment by trolling team after team while occasionally making it look like i'm a bad player so I don't get banned. I could find each and every game a fun experience by watching my team lose their minds for completely valid reasons. Heck it will be fun for me, but will it be fun for the other 4 players?
dolce69 (EUW)
: Smurf premades intentionaly losing games
I happened to me, so now I'm joining in and making everyone else's life miserable! try to %%%%ing stop me.
Renold (EUNE)
: its weird becuase they all say "more chances to get them in enemy team".Ballshits lel.
As much as I agree with the statement of "By the rule of averages, you should get more trolls on the enemy team" It's still a statistical possibility for a % of people to get bad game after bad game. Effectively winning the bad luck lottery. Saying that, my experience was over 200'ish games, I'm sure after 10,000 games it would eventually even itself out. it's just math after all. But lets be real for a moment, who on earth would be in a mental position to carry on playing after so many AFK's in your game, let alone your team. The easy solution ofc is to compensate the rest of the team with less negative LP... but we all know Riot will never do that, other games do! You see, that solution would make too much sense in the end of the day. Not exactly Riots strong point. And before anyone comments "IT WOULD BE ABUSED BY PREMADES!!!" like a parroting moron, The simple solution to that would be to deduct the rest of the players in the premade with the same loss of LP, that way the other players in the premade can not abuse it and quite frankly if it's a common issue then that AFK'er would end up finding it harder to find anyone who wants to play with them.
: When am I ready for ranked?
Learn the Macro game, people in bronze - Silver - low Gold have no %%%%ing clue what that is.
Renold (EUNE)
: Why i get so many afkers???
I did the same thing in season 7 but on an excel spreadsheet, just to keep track, I'm not even kidding, the amount of AFK'ers alone i got far outstripped the ones on the enemy team. its was something stupid like 12:1 its why i don't play ranked anymore. It nearly honestly made me quit the game altogether, i just aram now.
wowlukas (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Almighty Pillow,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kNY2sd25,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-01-20T22:47:38.486+0000) > > yup, Riot's stance is completely %%%%ed up. > but this is what you get when you cater to snowflakes who can't press the mute button. even if we mute, u will still focus more on typing lmao
I genuinely don't flame, I just think Riots stance of punishing the victim is BS.
: RIot logic = Ape Logic
yup, Riot's stance is completely %%%%ed up. but this is what you get when you cater to snowflakes who can't press the mute button.
: Since when is that? I had always thought it gives you a completely random champ.
It's always been that way - hence Aram accounts.
: Erm, ARAM doesn't care about your champion pool - you get a completely random champion. And there's no way to play it competitively since it has no ranked system whatsoever.
> [{quoted}](name=Tenchuu Khan,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=IHJnFE3B,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-20T14:59:35.981+0000) > > Erm, ARAM doesn't care about your champion pool - you get a completely random champion. > And there's no way to play it competitively since it has no ranked system whatsoever. 1. Only champions you own and whats on rotation are the only ones you can get - with a maximum of 2 re-rolls. 2. You can still play something competitively without it being a ranked game mode. So suggest otherwise is untrue.
Rioter Comments
Lynxmetal (EUW)
: Not even a week in and I'm already fed up with ranked.
You are right, the quality of games has gone down the drain. All i do to have fun is Aram anymore... when i do go SR its only because people i play with have bullied me into it and like clockwork win/lose I end up hating the whole experience, no matter what i seem to do every other lane feeds, my jungler is non existent, no one of team wards but me (support)... I'm clearly far better than these people, wave management and macro play are absolutely non existent to this inbreds (including my friends... I'm so tired of trying to explain it to them too. But riots going to do nothing about this. not until we all group up and show our dislike in a single threat or a petition or something.... even then riot with just ignore it... I mean, it's been a topic on the forums for ages... and riot has not once (even in years, with the first early warning signs) commented on this. What its doing is turning a lot of people off this game completely. Also, just as a side note, Activision and EA have both recently had patents leaked that state Matchmaking manipulation to increase microtransaction sales. (the jist of it, it would match you against way better players with certain skins to psychologically tell you "if you get this skin you will play like him") Hear me out I do not think Riot-Tencent is as scummy as Activision and EA. But lets get real here, it its not out of the realm of possibility to think that Riot-Tencent would ever but into practice any sort of matchmaking manipulation. (especially when corporate greed is so rampant nowadays) Cause quite frankly, Have you ever just picked up a champion and for some reason you have 5-6 games in a row with are a breeze and a cakewalk, than that skin for that champion is on sale and you think "hmmmm, why not?". Cause I have. Or, I just won 8 games in a row, why is it like clockwork that the next 8 games I have are lost at champion select and every lane but mine has gone 0/12/0. just saying (here comes ban hammer)
RadSquid (EUW)
: no surrender in 100% lost, mismatched games
Generally it's me, because I usually never feed, and when I do die in lane I usually play safe and only give 1-3 deaths (this might be for excessive camping, or that i got countered and the enemy champion is usually oppressive) So when I see someone go 0/15 and then wants to surrender, I think to myself "you wasted my fking time because you could not do the simple act of playing safe and farm. Instead you carry on playing like an inbred, you know what? YOU CAN STEW IN YOUR OWN SHIT!" No skin off my back, It's actually more entertaining watching you lose your childish mind. I have to suffer with -LP points because of you, so i'm going to get some satisfaction with the mental image of you raging and trashing your room like the 12 year old moron you are.
: Pretty much scared to play ranked
last season I got trolled so damn hard I ended up with a 35% win rate over 200 games, i kept a record to try to improve myself and i'm not kidding 40% of the games had a Troll (mainly because they got autofilled) or an afker who would literally sit in base for no reason. Since that experience I've not touched ranked on my main account and have tried to get through to riot on how bullshit their system is that i ultimately get punished for that sort of behaviour when it's no fault of my own. That being said, Riot support told be to basicly shut the %%%% up.... so I've made an account just to ruin peoples games (sorry but i'm testing how long it takes to get banned), so far I've racked up around 600+ games so far doing nothing but trolling and still not banned. And I actually got people who flamed me for trolling banned, as long as i only say "bad game, sorry guys" no one can touch me. I am sorry to those i have wasted time... but shit I've put up with it gradually getting worse and worse over 7 years and quite frankly you can all get %%%%ed.
: But in your system everyone who is premade with the guy who disconnects should get the penalty as well.
The system should recognise who is premade, those who are premade with x player who just ragequit, trolled, afk'ed should also suffer from the same LP loss. this would nullify the "it could be abused by premades" argument instantly
: So basically 0 LP lost for the 4 ppls of the ragequiter. Normals LP for the winning team and all the LP that the loosing should have lost go to the ragequiter (in this case ragequit would mean almost deranking.) I find it fair.
I don't think all the -LP would be fair... yano, what if it is a genuine power cut... etc etc etc. BUT the rest of the team should not have to deal with the full -LP loss, if you lost like 5 LP, it would be less of a kick to the balls. the system is %%%%ed beyond belief and I've argued this point for YEARS that there is absolutely no safety net. yano, it sucks to drag your team kicking and screaming to victory only for the next game to be an automatic loss because 1 guy ragequits or whatever and then you lose all that LP and are back at square 1. it comes down to a waste of time, that 1 guy just wasted 2 games worth of your time, and the real joke of it all is he will never get banned or punished but you will if you vent your frustration.
: ***
Ohh and they usually go top now, which restricts your team when considering team comp. you end up with a squishy team who can not teamfight to save their lives and theres me as Support like: {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} What the %%%% do you expect?
: After my terrible placements (3 W 7 L, Bronze 4) i decided to main support (which more or less means that i will always play support and never something else, but whatever, patience) because, simply put, most of my losses were caused by the botlane being utterly destroyed before minute 10. And now i'm on a winning streak of 3 games, and in 2 of them i was able to carry 2 obviously suicidal ADCs to victory (that is, the kind of ADCs that chase straight into Thresh's hooks or suicide by going alone 1 vs 2). My reasoning is: if my botlane is doomed to fail cause bad ADC, at least i will give the enemy a run for his money by being a support with a brain (and who builds sightstone), instead than a support that suicide with the ADC. For now, this strategy seem to be working.
yup, I've started to play support for that exact reason.
: AFK rate spiking in new season
just had a duo who were one was walking into towers and the other, fed and ragequit, then returned to do the same. But yano, Riot only bans the victims of trolls. they will never be banned.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Nothing but bad games
I have been complaining about this for A LONG TIME. Nearly every single game has a troll in it, win or lose, you just don't have fun. Like seriously 2/10 games are actually enjoyably playable. Problem is Riot is and has been willingly ignoring it. I have literally complained about this till I'm blue in the face, there is absolutely no safety net what-so-ever for genuine players who actually want to play this game. In fact, if you even call it out you will be punished with chat restriction or with a ban. Heck, my original account is forum banned till the year 2118 (or something like that) for arguing to a rioter and calling them out on their flawed bullshit ideals. (I think comparing it to the War on Drugs on how much of an incompetent mess it is and no one is willing to talk about it cause its political suicide at this point) But I will tell you the truth right now, THIS IS HOW EVERY SINGLE ONLINE GAME BEGINS TO DIE. They tried to appeal to the biggest audience they can, they failed to see that the audience they got was the most moronic, inbred, childish and toxic people on the planet who do not see the game for what it is (a strategic 5v5 team game) and instead want to play the game as if Call of Duty where your a 1 man Rambo. We can see evidence to this, look at how hyper mobile and 1 shot heavy the game has become. ... half the %%%%ing roster is no longer viable because their kits can't properly deal with the hyper mobility high damage. This is how World of Warcraft has effectively died, they dumbed everything down to the point where you honestly did not have to have a brain. Yeah it's still going but just think of the player base, the only people who are left now are those you have invested 10+ years into it and for that can't leave it. And it pisses me off that we got to this point in league... At what point does it need to be asked "What game can i now play that is slow, strategic and methodical like league used to be?" I started playing LoL for that reason, not for it to turn into another call of duty "quickfire round" style of play... And you know, I'm gonna put on my tin foiled hat as i look at the leaked patents from Activision and EA where they manipulate the matchmaking and really think to myself "hmmm, Riots matchmaking probably does the same type of BS." I've played this game for 7 years, and i will tell you know I have a near perfect 50% win ratio. Then i think of all the one sided games that make me think that its not far from the realm of possibility that such manipulation is possible or active. (i'll probably get this account forum banned for mentioning this now) I know I'm better than 75% of the players in this elo bracket, i'm definitely better than the trolls that plague this elo... but yano, you complain on this forum about how this game has turned into a coinflip at champ select and all you get are "git gud" or "uninstall, die of cancer" when its completely justified to call it out. All i do now is play Aram, at the very least i have some control and can save a moron (or use them as a meat shield/tool of distraction) and if i get a player who is salty about his re-rolls and proceeds to go Braum with crit/ad/atk spd i don't have to deal with it for more than 15 min. All i have ever asked for is fair and balanced games to be the "norm" win/lose don't care. And all I've got in return is verbal abuse, ridicule and silence. looking at the forums, I'm not the only one in this boat. /rant over
: >At that point, I'm enjoying the roles being reversed. your life must be so empty if you've nothing better to do...
Nice conclusion you've arrived at. Sherlock Holmes would be jealous.
: you don't want to subject yourself to the torture but you click no to surrender votes gotta love that logic! (or lack there of...)
At that point, I'm enjoying the roles being reversed. gotta love these argumentative children!
: I regularly go afk without punishment. I only go afk if we are losing by a long shot ( ex: 21-0 ) at 15-20 mins and my team says no to surrender. Hell no im not wasting my time so you can have fun trolling
I've done that myself, riot can ban me if they want but I aint going to subject myself to the torture. then when they want to surrender i click "no" and tell them to stew in their own shit they made.
: This makes no sense, you are adressing the person and his post with a specific comment to it. Looks like another sad case of trying to make a smart comment, and then realising how dense you made yourself look.
its just a forum troll. just think, you know the type of scum you get in game right? Well they go on the forums too... and downvote any complaints and upvote all trolling.
: is it time to quit league maybe?
I can not believe the type of scum on this forum who are taunting this guy. I'm about to quit myself, the game is to "hyper mobility & damage" to be fun (if i wanted that i would play a different game). and most of all, i will leave because this community has turned from bad to the worse cesspool of shite i have ever come across.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I have never received any type of punishment in game. The only punishment I have ever received during my 7 year run with this game is a permanent forum ban because i got into a heated argument with a rioter in regards to the abysmal state of toxicity the game has accumulated over the last 2 years. (I take it i won since I got silenced cause the truth hurts) I think you did not read what i said correctly, the tribunal was flawed and abused. It did not work the way it was intended to at all; players would log on and press the punish button without reading into any of the cases to farm IP. But by being active it psychologically deterred a lot of people from trolling, there has obviously always been trolls in game but back then it wasn't as common as you see today. Since the disappearance of the tribunal we have a sharp increase of toxicity without a shadow of a doubt. i'm not talking about verbal toxicity, i'm referring to the "troll hard but keep totally silent so it looks like your just having a bad game" we all know it happens, there are entire youtube channels devoted to it. Why? cause 12 year olds find it so funny, they bring in a mountain of views and decide to emulate said behaviour without the risk of being banned. Why don't they get banned? Cause riot does not want to ban a genuinely bad player and it's hard to prove the distinction. I really get that, that's what makes this so hard to deal with. Problem is, there is no safety net for the victims. And if the victims get frustated by it (cause it could quite well be the 10th time in a row they have had to deal with that sort of player) and understandably vent his frustration. BAM!! BAN HAMMER!!! Even though I have never been banned for toxic behaviour, I will still call out on how much of a steaming pile of BS that is. The amount of games I lost because of trolling last season was ridiculous. Not, someone playing bad and loosing their lane, i mean they were straight up trolling... like some were trying to disguise it so bad it was actually questionable if they ever played this game in the first place or by waiting for the remake timer to go over the 5 min mark, DC'ing and occasionally returning to say "my connection is bad sorry"... it happened so often that I'm sorry, I'm putting on the tinfoil hat and calling it BS in the same way as an electronic product dies the day it's guarantee is over. But what i call BS more is Riots stance that they have absolutely 0 safety net for the other 4 people on the team (as long as no one is in a premade with the troll in question). Meh, rant over... to tired of talking too much common sense to deaf ears.
Smerk (EUW)
: Current system works much faster than Tribunal, it is also much more accurate and efficient.
Absolute bollocks, the current system is pretty much non-existent.
RÜDY (EUW)
: Tribunal - Bring it back
Lets be honest here, as much as the tribunal just fundamentally did not work... When it was about, there were far less toxic games. Cause people were afraid to get punished. Now days NEARLY EVERY SINGLE GAME IS FILLED WITH THESE 12 YEAR OLD SCUMBAGS WHO PURPOSEFULLY GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE THINGS MISERABLE FOR OTHERS. Then Riot has the audacity to ban their victims cause "toxicity" {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
TTekkers (EUW)
: I think you're spouting bollocks, but to do that we need to define what it is to Drain-Tank, and that's not a discussion I'm up for right now. A Vayne with BorK in a 1v1 can kite and lifesteal well enough to Drain-Tank a single melee guy, which coupled with her W means she wins the duel, but throw any other variables into the mix and she will struggle to drain enough life fast enough to achieve anything meaningful unless there are misplays in the mix. But to Tank you need to be soaking the damage of multiple champs, otherwise it's just an aspect of a duel, and once an ADC starts soaking damage from multiple champs they usually die instantly. Unless you're in super-late game. Super-late game is the ADC sandbox and they melt everything so fast you wouldn't be able to make them tank anything to drain back. PS. Graves doesn't count as an ADC
I'm an oldschool player, played since season 1. Graves was an ADC, now he is a tanky adc who like I said have seen go into 4 by himself and destroy everyone while lifestealing back to full HP. It was disgusting to witness.
TTekkers (EUW)
: The ADC can never, at any stage of the game, drain-tank. This also has nothing to do with lifesteal, it's simply down to them being the squishiest players on the map, which is exacerbated by them being short on CC, mobility and burst to outplay a scenario in which they make a positional error. Cait is probably the slipperiest ADC in the game and has her trap, a small delayed skillshot root, and a skillshot slow + dash to get out of danger. Orianna has a shield, a slow, burst damage, her ult is both a displacement and a knock up and she can operate at a longer range than Caitlyn and is a higher level (duo lane vs solo) benefitting from higher base stats. The slipperiest ADC has less tools to outplay than an immobile "short" range control mage. (I know champion comparisons like that are broke - you can argue almost anything, but I couldn't resist :P) The ADC problem is not that they are OP, it's that there is no other champion design blueprint that can provide such reliable DPS. And without reliable DPS teamfights are just a little bit too short on damage to win out, you can't take objectives fast enough and ultimately your team-comp is worse. It's a similar argument to not having a frontline, but consistent damage is irreplaceable whereas a frontline can be replaced by exceptionally good kiting. And actually, you can argue anything in here, but you always need enough damage.
"The ADC can never, at any stage of the game, drain-tank" Bollocks, in the last month i've seen a graves and a Vayne do just that.
: Possibly returning player - a question about the atmosphere
: I can tell you (as a Plat player) that even for me silver elo is so hard to play in if im playing on my 2cnd account. Its just unbelievable how many ppl there are who think they are gods and dont accept any tips, or flame all game, or just straightup int, following only their own calls. Its so frustrating to lose game when im 20/6/8 for example just because i cant 1v5 their team cuz its early lategame already. And if i take a look at what my teammates doing...invading their jng when all lanes are pushed to our base or even crazier stuff. I think this whole elo system needs a rework. I dont know how tbh but how it is atm is unacceptable. And if im not having fun playing in silver the other silver players dont have fun aswell aswell i guess. Just the amount of ridiculously braindead ppl, inting guys or the trolling ones is crazy. Im hoping everyone in this elo who is not flaming and stuff will get out there soon ^^ But dont expect Gold or Plat to be better. Slightly, but not a lot.
you are right, it is all broken. What would you say if i told you there are more than double the players in silver then there are in bronze. Or even still, there are more people in gold than in bronze. If this is no indication of ELO hell then I don't know what is.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: Some players really need anger management classes :/
From my experience... I only see rage from Riven/Yasuo mains. Or from people obviously fed up with trying to carry a game when the rest of the team runs around like headless chickens accomplishing nothing.
Cebelon (EUW)
: Zoe..... again
I love how like 2 years ago Riot stated that they thought the idea of being 1 shot is not fun so they were going to tune everything down. ...(modern day) League of legends is a hyper mobile, 1 shot, team deathmatch game.
Vashtrall (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4EkP8gPA,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-12-01T15:46:26.673+0000) > > But people troll exactly because they think it is funny. If they wouldn't find it funny they wouldn't troll. > > Never feed the trolls, don't you know? Well... One of my friends trolls because he gets pissed at the community and wants to make people suffer.
> [{quoted}](name=Vashtrall,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4EkP8gPA,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-12-02T21:03:58.526+0000) > > Well... One of my friends trolls because he gets pissed at the community and wants to make people suffer. To be honest, Even I'm completely guilty of that. I will go on a huge tryhard spree, Im not bothered by if I win or lose as long as I feel like it was a fair game. But the amount of AFK's & trolls ruin this game, I tryharded last season, got to about 200 games, was at a 35% win rate but I recorded my games to see what i was doing wrong. What was happening is I was very unlucky and had an afk on my team 90% of the time there was an afk in the game. So... I lost my temper and used an alt to troll other players... It was wrong of me... But this is what happens when there is a clear matchmaking problem and riot chooses to ignore it. You also get people like me who wants to make games miserable because it happened to me when i was tryharding
: My point is lol is like gambling..hell it is gambling. Will feeders be in my or other team? Yesss I know 1/4 chances of feeder/afk in my team , 1/5 in opponent. But add in DC , bad day/play , games throwed by teammate etc. Even jf you dont get all that its incredibly slow and stressfull climb
This feeling happened to me when i was playing Overwatch and now I feel the same feeling when playing LoL. It basicly feels like it comes down to a coinflip and being in game feels like a waste of time win or lose. I used to think, What is the point in playing the game? Why don't i just afk farm? if im going to have a 50% win ratio no matter what I do, why should i even tryhard? This is comming from tryharding for years, last season, i really tried so damn hard to climb, I know I could get to gold if i really tried and possibly plat but no further... but last season after 200 games I was on a 35% win ratio, This was me super tryharding, won lane super hard nearly every game and pushed objectives etc etc. But what was happening was I was winning and losing the same amount of fair games, I ended up recording my data to try to improve and learn what i could do better and i ended up with whenever there was an afk in the game, 90% of the time it was on my team. So fair
: a great way to stop yourself from flaming is to...
I can agree, I got my main account forum banned... (basicly because I got gang reported, opened a ticket regarding the issue and then proceeded to tell the riot emloyee to go %%%% themselves with their %%%%%%ed troll-encouraging logic) but yeah, responding to some of the inbred morons on this forum does vent a lot of the anger to the point where you are too tired to respond to the cesspool that is the playerbase.
: He destroyed o others people game? You think enemy team wasn't happy to have higher chanse of winning in ranked game? And his team still won, they weren't happy, but who cares if they still won?
If we have to lose the same amount of LP as the afk'er, we well within our right to be able to say "You destroyed the game experience of 9 other people. Fix your problems. It's nobody else problem, except yours."
: > [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qU6FNcrB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-20T14:53:52.941+0000) > > Are you sure you're talking about League of Legends here? > > In what world are runes which each have unique and gamechanging effects** less **creative and** less** complex than flat-stats runes that copy off a pro build and forget forever? > --- > Riot did an amazing job with the new runes, I keep my eyes on the Boards after every big change Riot makes, and the Boards love to overreact on small mistakes Riot makes. > > There are nearly no players complaining about the new runes, and if players can't find anything to complain about, it must mean Riot hit the nail on the head :P It wasn't just flat runes, it also had masteries. And there were countless of different rune page possibilities, unlike the system we got now, that's just a fact.
Im calling BS on this. 99% of the players used: Ad/MPen reds, armor yellows, MR blues, AD/AP quints. To the point where you ask what was the point of having runes in the first place. It's like the summoner spell Flash, like, what is the point on having it as an option when 99.9% of the time every single player runs it? It makes more sense just to make it a standard obligitory ability.
: Motivations of Riot? LoL getting worse?
I've been waiting years for Riot to actually improve the toxicity of this game. Instead they have given the trolls all the power and ban the trolls victims once they finally snap and vent their frustration. Riot does not even comment on this anymore. And there have been numerous suggestions to improve the experience on various aspects of the game.

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