Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kannu,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=Em3hM5vh,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-10-26T16:45:15.192+0000) > > Hey Riot Moog1ez ! > > Do we have any news on the issue ? We are now 8.21, this is still a thing... > > {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} Hey Kannu, This one's proving tricky to track down. We've deployed additional logging around this issue in 8.21 - it'll probably take us at least a patch to get enough info to track down (Assuming this level of logging is useful), then maybe an additional patch to get a fix out. We'd love to get this fixed sooner however there's most likely some underlying tech changes required to ensure loadouts are being passed between systems in a timely enough fashion to ensure they're loaded. ARAM seems to be the most impacted by this which is pretty strange, but we're working on it!
Hey found this topic on google. I have this issue in my own server too (TR), in my case removing the Odyssey emote fixed it for me (Atleast for now); https://prnt.sc/lbifu0
: bots OP, this MF bot just juked the shit out of the viktor player. /s
Bots can juke? Better nerf more of viktor
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Hansiman (EUNE)
: > What can I say to a player that calls me "S... o... B..."? Tell me. Why do you have to say anything to him? Mute him, and the problem is gone. --- > Swears at me calling me stuff that's not nice to say it here, so I say "I will report you for saying that". So I'm the one that should get banned but not mf. Where did I ever say that? If people are being rude to you, ignore them and report them. That way, they risk a penalty
That's what I exactly did between my 1. and 2. ban. I didn't mean any harm by threatening or demoralizing, refusing to communicate. Nothing at all. But you keep saying saying "muted" just feeds them. THEY ARE ALREADY FED. I didnt say "shut up stupid" or anything like that at all. I'm just giving them reason to shut up, BECAUSE I JUST MUTED THEM, I WONT EVER SEE THEIR MESSAGES AGAIN. How's that a bad attidute ? IF HE SHUTS UP, other team members wont see him keep saying stuff. If we look other ways, all words like even "k" is offensive. It's like mocking people if they say something like "Omg you are terrible, why dont you do this?" and you say "k" you just ignore what they say and mock them. Should "k" be considered bannable too? I guess not
Hansiman (EUNE)
: "generally not uses bad words" still indicates he does use bad words. Even though we're all human, and our emotions get the best of us sometimes; we're expected to never use bad words towards others. =)
And after we do that, we may face consequences, and if we do, we try to improve our mistakes. That's what I did. Not offending someone in 2016 looks like "not playing the game at all".
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I do ignore and riot says "you reject communication" There's a difference between not enganging in demoralizing behaviour, and rejecting to communicate. Besides, not talking isn't actually something that gets you punished. Many players communicate only through pings, and never say a word in the chat; that's completely fine. --- > so majority wants to punish people that don't carry them everygame should get ban? Yes? I'm trying to help you here, but you don't seem to be open to discuss the matter. Please don't twist my words, because I won't be inclined to spend time here with you. --- > I'm not doing anything against the community itself. I'm doing some stuff that against toxics, not listening to them. You're retaliating, which means you're doing something against the community. As frustrating as it is for your 3 other allies to listen to one person being negative; it's even more frustrating to see two players be so. --- > THE whole topic this is about me getting 2nd punishment WITH NO REASON AT ALL I know, and I'm pointing out to you what you're doing wrong. As I can't personally read all of your chat log in the 25CR one, since I don't understand that language, I do see you're still saying "muted" towards people, even though that was indicated to you in your first punishment as a violation of the rules. The extra log you obtained from support also shows you were threatening someone with a report, which is also considered a violation of the rules. So you're not as innocent as you claim to be. --- > I'm not gonna reply anymore if you are going to talk about my first ban. You don't have to talk to me, nor do you have to listen to me. However, I'm giving you advice on what you're doing wrong that's getting you punished. If you don't want to take my advice, that's perfectly fine and up to you. But remember that if you keep being negative towards other players, you'll just keep getting punished, and may be escalated to time bans instead of chat restrictions. I'm trying to help you avoid getting any punishment.
What can I say to a player that calls me "S... o... B..."? Tell me. I'm giving a player a red buff, even tho I need it to keep the balance of lanes, my farm in the jungle, i give it to him. He still keeps dying, I do even help him at bot lane to get kill, gank him and he can't get kill. Swears at me calling me stuff that's not nice to say it here, so I say "I will report you for saying that". So I'm the one that should get banned but not mf. Thanks community {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Next time I make sure I'll call people "S... O... B..." and report them without saying "Reported mf" and watch them get banned for that. Thanks. Plus: There are no turkish words at 25 ban message. Edit: * "Mf red" = "Mf come to red and take it" * we die in bad situation = I say "gg wp ",we prob lost * mf dies even with red buff * mf calls me stuff * I say "mf muted " * someone is saying bad stuff on me too * i say "muted" too * I get ban * Because I threaten people * I ruin their games * Thanks * You just ruined my mood.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: That link is still giving me the 25CR punishment, and not the 10CR one. =/ --- > There are no harsh words, I can guarantee that. There's more to the summoner's code than using just harsh words. It's quite possible to only use "positive" words, but still violate the code to an extent that warrants a punishment. Context of what you're saying is more important than the words you're using. Sarcasm, as an example, is a way of writing that some players use in order to mock/insult others, but they do so by writing "positive" things. This will still get you punished, as your intent would still be to harass the other player. Without being able to understand your language, I can't comment on what you're saying. --- > -I say that only to claim "I'm not going to argue that with you further more". It's an attempt to jab in the last word in an argument. It also further feeds a negative atmosphere and serves no purpose. Most likely, the other player is going to escalate his behaviour when you just say things like "muted", or "reported". The best option is always to ignore them, completely. --- > There was an improvement that I wasn't even doing anything reportable. Your opinion about your behaviour doesn't have to represent the opinion of the majority of the community. Keep that in mind. Riot bases their punishment systems on what the majority of the community doesn't want to see ingame. Since the majority of players feel that report-threats are unwanted, then you can be punished for issuing report-threats. --- > The guys that I mute called something like "OMG REPORT THIS VI" in all chat. Probably using bad language too, since i muted them, i couldn't see it but I saw enemy team member calling "Sure mate we will report". After that you can see I say "If players that don't even use ward in map even once was considered carefully, everyone would get perma ban". Thats what i said to enemy team members. Guess what happens after that game. I get spam-reported and 10 match chat ban. If the other person is requesting the enemy to report you, then he's breaking the rules, not you. If you're not doing anything wrong, then you're not getting punished. It doesn't matter how many people report you, because reports have to be valid in order for you to be punished. However, from what you wrote there it does sound like you sent out a small jab towards the summoner who requested the others to report you. So you retaliated against him, which is a violation of the rules. --- > Yes I did say harsh stuff like "mal, işe yaramaz" = "stupid, useless". IF I have ever receive ban for that, I will be glad because I earn it. But if I did get ban for report abuse system, Its not cool. You're getting punished because you're saying things like "stupid", and "useless". You weren't judged on only the game that was displayed in the log; you were judged accross multiple games that you were reported in, but usually just one sample log is sent to you. If you're admitting to calling other people "stupid", or "useless", then I have to say I'm starting to see a pattern as to why you got punished in the first place. --- > Im afraid to talk and get another ban for no reason. As long as you refrain from mocking players, insulting them, threatening them with reports; you'll have no problem. --- > "Benden gank beklemeyin" = "Don't expect a gank from me" = Is it offensive? No. It surely doesn't promote team play either, and is just unnecessary. You keep commenting that you're not using offensive language, but you may be punished for other types of negative behaviour; not just offensive language. --- > Even If I deserve first ban, I can still say my 2. ban is just an abuse by toxic players. From what you're explaining here yourself, I don't see that the punishment is that unjust; I only see that the logs sent to you weren't the best examples, as you admit to being offensive towards people in other games. It would be better if those were the logs that were sent to you upon you receiving a punishment, but they were a part of the games that got you punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kRWsGZAd,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-02T17:58:20.610+0000) > There's more to the summoner's code than using just harsh words. It's quite possible to only use "positive" words, but still violate the code to an extent that warrants a punishment. Context of what you're saying is more important than the words you're using. Non, after the first ban > Sarcasm, as an example, is a way of writing that some players use in order to mock/insult others, but they do so by writing "positive" things. This will still get you punished, as your intent would still be to harass the other player. Comment above > It's an attempt to jab in the last word in an argument. It also further feeds a negative atmosphere and serves no purpose. Most likely, the other player is going to escalate his behaviour when you just say things like "muted", or "reported". > > The best option is always to ignore them, completely. That's what I do, I try not to get in argue with them and implying that means "I'm feeding them" ? What should I do? I do ignore and riot says "you reject communication" How so? I should play like how other players like me to play? Meta myself? Lol > Your opinion about your behaviour doesn't have to represent the opinion of the majority of the community. Keep that in mind. So majority wants to punish people that don't carry them everygame? Yes? > Riot bases their punishment systems on what the majority of the community doesn't want to see ingame. Since the majority of players feel that report-threats are unwanted, then you can be punished for issuing report-threats. I'm not doing anything against the community itself. I'm doing some stuff that against toxics, not listening to them. > If the other person is requesting the enemy to report you, then he's breaking the rules, not you. If you're not doing anything wrong, then you're not getting punished. It doesn't matter how many people report you, because reports have to be valid in order for you to be punished. I got lots of reports back then, why that game? Why it's not just me that got the wrong chat log? While its just a "rare" bug why there are lots of topics in TR boards? > However, from what you wrote there it does sound like you sent out a small jab towards the summoner who requested the others to report you. So you retaliated against him, which is a violation of the rules. > --- > > You're getting punished because you're saying things like "stupid", and "useless". You weren't judged on only the game that was displayed in the log; you were judged accross multiple games that you were reported in, but usually just one sample log is sent to you. > > If you're admitting to calling other people "stupid", or "useless", then I have to say I'm starting to see a pattern as to why you got punished in the first place. I'm just saying, I did good and bad things but, as I said alot, before, I still claim my 2. ban was unnecessary. Everyone probably has some stuff done in their past. I'm just being honest. Like I said before; I MAY be deserving first ban because i call someone stupid earlier but that doesn't change anything with my second ban. It was totally no reason. Riot can't prove it, so I don't think anyone can. I asked 3 times in support, lots of times at board what was the reason for my second ban. Nobody did reply. Thats why I stopped asking them. > As long as you refrain from mocking players, insulting them, threatening them with reports; you'll have no problem. > --- > > It surely doesn't promote team play either, and is just unnecessary. You keep commenting that you're not using offensive language, but you may be punished for other types of negative behaviour; not just offensive language. > --- > > From what you're explaining here yourself, I don't see that the punishment is that unjust; I only see that the logs sent to you weren't the best examples, as you admit to being offensive towards people in other games. > > It would be better if those were the logs that were sent to you upon you receiving a punishment, but they were a part of the games that got you punished. This logic works for almost everything in our lives: If you punish/judge someone with some reason, you can't judge/punish twice with that reason if it's not repeated again. Did you ever see someone get in jail twice for one reason? They get in jail once, and they leave. They don't comeback till its repeated. Admitting my old bad manners doesn't make my ban just. 3 or 4 game logs sent to me and they show that as the reason of ban**S**. #THE whole topic this is about me getting 2nd punishment WITH NO REASON AT ALL I'm not gonna reply anymore if you are going to talk about my first ban. Lastly: It's not something I'm trying to lie to people, this "RARE BUG THAT IS GLOBAL" only started to appear 1.5-2 weeks ago. And since it's "rare". So "rare" that everyone knows it because someone they know got banned.
Jsp (EUW)
: Just a FYI. If the game was totally one sided or the enemy team had multiple afks all game, don't go spamming GG WP! on the chat. We all know it wasn't a good game. https://i.imgflip.com/104lg3.jpg
Sorry, but I rarely use GG WP in [ALL] Chat. For me GG WP is like = "We both were good, it was fun to play against you". But I don't say it because games usually end with 10-15k gold difference etc. (Win/lose doesn't matter :P I can't call that a good game) I use it on my team chat :)
Joosua (EUW)
: hey just wondering if you can get a chat ban while a chat ban is active, cause i highly doubt he has played 10 games in 4 hours (afterage duration has to be 24 min which i highly doubt^^) which would mean you get time to try improving your behavior but then again you dont get it o.O just something going through my mind :S
I just played 6 matches and my chat restriction should've been 4 left but instead it said "24 left" so I probably got it in my 5. match :)
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. I'll try my best to give you some aid here, but please forgive me if I'm missing out on some of the information provided. I also do not speak the language displayed in your logs, nor the turkish links you provided, so I won't be able to confirm anything that's written there. I can only deal with what's in english for this case. So if I understand you correctly; you're currently undergoing a 25 game chat restriction, which arrived straight after your 10 game chat restriction, correct? You posted the link to your web-view, but you posted the same link twice, so I only see the one that's for your 25 game chat restriction. Could you update the link that's supposed to link to your 10 game chat restriction as well? I can't comment anything regarding the image for your 10 game CR, since I don't understand the language you're writing in. It wouldn't be fair for me to assume you're writing things that you may not be writing. As a small comment to your log from the 25 game restriction, don't announce that you're muting a player. It's mild in that log, and I doubt that this alone gets you punished, but it tends to just add fuel to the fire if there's problems with a negative person, which escalates the situation. Just mute them, no need to attempt to get in the last word in an argument. --- > If I get Chat ban from my actions X days/weeks/months back, why do i get 2. Chat restriction after 4 hours? Isn't there any point that between 1. and 2. chat restriction, that i must improve "my manners"? As seen up the post where i post my second "Chat restriction Message" If you're wondering about having a quarantine period after your first restriction, I don't think that exists. I do believe that if you're not showing signs of reforming during your current restriction, you'll be provided with a new one straight away. There's no need to provide players with a quarantine period after their restriction if they've already displayed that they weren't improving. --- > Does GG WP mean anyone offensive? We just couldnt do anything, and meaning "Thats all I can do" "GG WP" is generally considered a polite way to end a match. You can compare it to the handshakes LCS players do after a match is over. There's nothing wrong with that. --- > Isn't my case "getting chat ban from report abuse by some people who harras me whole game? Just because, I couldn't perform any better than them?" Abusing the report feature isn't really possible. There's multiple factors in place that prevents false reports from having an effect. Players have credibility tied to their reports; if they're sending out false reports, the system won't actually trust them. The system values reports from people who consistently report negative people only over those who send out reports left and right. Reports alone also don't trigger a ban. They never have, and I doubt they ever will. Reports flag an account for investigation. If an account gets over a certain threshold, and investigation takes place, and the system looks into what the player has been saying in his games, and the context of what he's been saying. If you're caught being overly negative, or derogatory, towards others, you may get a penalty. --- However, at least for your 2nd log, the case seems overly mild. Let me just first say; I won't deny the possibility that the verdict may be wrong. No system in the world is ever perfect, and Riot is very open on the fact that making a perfect system that won't make mistakes is not possible, nor something they will be able to do. Riot has by my experience been very willing to reverse punishments that are wrong if it's pointed out to them. So why does this log seem so neutral, and strict? I'll try to give an explanation of what _might_ have happened, just to give some context: When a player is reported, they're never punished based on the report alone. Reports can only trigger an investigation, and the investigation is what causes the punishment is the context of what the player is saying in the games he's reported in is identified as unwanted behaviour. However, a flaw with the chat-log system is that due to the different technologies the various chats in this game operates on, only the logs of what the player says ingame is sent to him as evidence. Whatever he says in champion select, and during the post game screen, is also investigated and judged, but they aren't displayed in the chat log provided to him. There are players out there that assume that champion select and the post game screen is a free-for-all, where no rules apply, and all they need to do is behave ingame. This is a misconception, and this could explain what happened in the cases displayed on the screenshots, but I'm not ruling out that they were a mistake either. There's also the case that I believe the screenshots sent to the player tend to be the last game they played that they were reported in, which triggered an investigation. That means that they for instance could have been very negative in the games before this one, but weren't as negative in the last game they played, which makes the chat log sent to them very weird. This is something Riot could do better, in order to have the system succesfully send out logs of the games that were truly negative. --- If I've misunderstood anything in your post, please let me know. I'll see if I can clear up the confusion, and potential difficulties with you. Also, please forgive me if I don't reply until a bit later tomorrow. I was heading to bed when I saw your post, and I have university early in the morning, but I'll keep an eye on this thread. =)
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kRWsGZAd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-01T23:00:10.215+0000) > You posted the link to your web-view, but you posted the same link twice, so I only see the one that's for your 25 game chat restriction. Could you update the link that's supposed to link to your 10 game chat restriction as well? -http://link.email.riotgames.com/t.d?z07lcGpQk6RRwKwC5oXK8PGdEP7vI/VFcojJM2aHRsyV9ePb8TlYu/Q59niTM3MGjNC7yL6y5vdN%0a9h0uR51lDjciZtzPkzx4INzU4Bz3Jb7TwZTxHCdy7UqRHLkcjRai.enc&msgVersion=web Here, It still shows latest punishment its made. (Image:http://s8.postimg.org/d4ia5217p/Punishment1.jpg) > I can't comment anything regarding the image for your 10 game CR, since I don't understand the language you're writing in. It wouldn't be fair for me to assume you're writing things that you may not be writing. -There are no harsh words, I can guarantee that. If you please, you can try your guess by Google Translate > As a small comment to your log from the 25 game restriction, don't announce that you're muting a player. It's mild in that log, and I doubt that this alone gets you punished, but it tends to just add fuel to the fire if there's problems with a negative person, which escalates the situation. Just mute them, no need to attempt to get in the last word in an argument. -I say that only to claim "I'm not going to argue that with you further more". I only mute players that are using bad words as "You_Can_Guess_What_It_Is" > If you're wondering about having a quarantine period after your first restriction, I don't think that exists. I do believe that if you're not showing signs of reforming during your current restriction, you'll be provided with a new one straight away. There's no need to provide players with a quarantine period after their restriction if they've already displayed that they weren't improving. -In the Riot E-mail It Is said that: >*Katıldığın son oyunlarda*, oyun içi sohbet üzerinden diğer oyuncuların oyun deneyimini olumsuz etkiledin If It's translated, It says "In the LAST games you have been in, you did some bad stuff that ruins other players game experience". My last games were between 1. and 2. chat restriction. I played 6 games in 4 hours. There was an improvement that I wasn't even doing anything reportable. > Abusing the report feature isn't really possible. There's multiple factors in place that prevents false reports from having an effect. Players have credibility tied to their reports; if they're sending out false reports, the system won't actually trust them. The system values reports from people who consistently report negative people only over those who send out reports left and right. -Well believe me or not, Before I got my 10 chat game restriction: The guys that I mute called something like "OMG REPORT THIS VI" in all chat. Probably using bad language too, since i muted them, i couldn't see it but I saw enemy team member calling "Sure mate we will report". After that you can see I say "Haritada 1 wardı olmayanların raporları geçerli olsaydı herkes perma ban alırdı" = "If players that don't even use ward in map even once was considered carefully, everyone would get perma ban". Thats what i said to enemy team members. Guess what happens after that game. I get spam-reported and 10 match chat ban. > Reports alone also don't trigger a ban. They never have, and I doubt they ever will. Reports flag an account for investigation. If an account gets over a certain threshold, and investigation takes place, and the system looks into what the player has been saying in his games, and the context of what he's been saying. If you're caught being overly negative, or derogatory, towards others, you may get a penalty. -In this case, my point is not that "IM ALL INNOCENT". Yes I did say harsh stuff like "mal, işe yaramaz" = "stupid, useless". IF I have ever receive ban for that, I will be glad because I earn it. But if I did get ban for report abuse system, Its not cool. You know how a community can get toxic and It's not cool to get banned by toxic players. > So why does this log seem so neutral, and strict? I'll try to give an explanation of what _might_ have happened, just to give some context: > > When a player is reported, they're never punished based on the report alone. Reports can only trigger an investigation, and the investigation is what causes the punishment is the context of what the player is saying in the games he's reported in is identified as unwanted behaviour. > > However, a flaw with the chat-log system is that due to the different technologies the various chats in this game operates on, only the logs of what the player says ingame is sent to him as evidence. Whatever he says in champion select, and during the post game screen, is also investigated and judged, but they aren't displayed in the chat log provided to him. > > There are players out there that assume that champion select and the post game screen is a free-for-all, where no rules apply, and all they need to do is behave ingame. This is a misconception, and this could explain what happened in the cases displayed on the screenshots, but I'm not ruling out that they were a mistake either. > > There's also the case that I believe the screenshots sent to the player tend to be the last game they played that they were reported in, which triggered an investigation. That means that they for instance could have been very negative in the games before this one, but weren't as negative in the last game they played, which makes the chat log sent to them very weird. This is something Riot could do better, in order to have the system succesfully send out logs of the games that were truly negative. > --- > If I've misunderstood anything in your post, please let me know. I'll see if I can clear up the confusion, and potential difficulties with you. > > Also, please forgive me if I don't reply until a bit later tomorrow. I was heading to bed when I saw your post, and I have university early in the morning, but I'll keep an eye on this thread. =) Thanks for trying to help, I appreciate it. My native language is not English (As you can see), I may be making some mistakes. But my point is that If someone should be investigated and punished. Shouldn't It be only one punishment? (Edit: I mean if my X game actions are getting investigated, Shouldn't I be getting one punishment for those actions? Rather than punishing and waiting 4 hours and punishing again?) I mean yeah I was wrong. Riot could punish me 10 match chat ban/25 match chat ban, or even.. day ban. But instead they punish me once, and after 4 hours they punish me twice. I was totally cool with my punishment until I got 2nd punishment for no reason at all. This leads me to lose interest in game, and teamplay/community. Now I don't want to even say "ok" and hey, they are complaning "WHY DONT YOU TALK OMG". Im afraid to talk and get another ban for no reason. So thats bad for me and people that play with me. I hope that you understand it. Another point is this: Before my post, I never seen anything like this. Yes people were complaning "OMG RITO REMOVE MY BAN PFSS" but they were all correct bans that if a rioteer send their chat logs in boards to fix misdirection, we could say "LOL riot is right". But since 1.5 week, there is something wrong, and it's highly known in TR. I just want it to be investigated and NA says "If you have a problem with TR support, why dont you ask for help from TR SUPPORT". How can I get help from a support that I'm complaining about? ------------------------------------ Another edit: Riot has never provided me 2. ban reason. They just throw away random older bad manner chat logs (Last chat log doesn't even include bad manner, since it's just misunderstanding..) http://i.hizliresim.com/LAPmG0.jpg (White square is the one I'm saying that it's just misunderstanding) To prove it was an report abuse; "Supp farkı <3" = "Supp difference <3" = Is it offensive? Yes. But thats how you look at it. Pratically: * Enemy Team support harrasses our mid to 35% hp and [ALL]Support:"Supp difference" * Our team supports provides me 2 or 3 health pick up at blue buff (Bard) and I have great time killing buff without losing much hp [ALL]Me:Supp difference <3 * This is just meaning "Yeah our support is great". The <3 just means it all but, if you just go theory. It looks wrong. "Benden gank beklemeyin" = "Don't expect a gank from me" = Is it offensive? No. * After getting blue buff, I decide to rush enemy team red. * Enemy team jungler catches up me (Since i put a ward in the bush she was supposed to come, there was no danger) * I fall back and pinging that I need help. After 10 seconds of chasing and running. Nobody comes to help and I give First Blood = 400g * I fall behind and I get pissed off by my team mates not helping me or even ping to say "fall back" * I decide to farm and get back in the game. And say it "Muted" * After saying 2. line, our mid says "Whats my fault that I didn't want/ couldn't get there to help you?" * I clearly, don't want to get in argue with him and just muting him, telling him that he is muted and he should go concentrate on game rather than arguing me. ------------------------------------------ #Even If I deserve first ban, I can still say my 2. ban is just an abuse by toxic players.
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: it s the same with Tristana jump or Ezreal e, when the cast time is long and u get cc while this casttime, the Ability/spell of the first champ still goes through. thats not a bug and it s not, but u cant Change it.
There are times that i caught tristana while she's mid air. Im not talking about these* abilities. I'm talking about thresh getting stun and still does Q me. If he gonna do that whats the point having CC? There are times that I was like "Oh great i escaped.. oh wait no." And the problem is not just "Stun bug", it's slow is so underpowered that people can walk through it and don't even get stunned sometimes.
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