RayleighTT (EUNE)
: how riot system works...
https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/2248971378/208835724?tab=overview https://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/1880598801/208835724?tab=overview
CJXander (EUNE)
: I don't really think there will be a next worlds. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: I don't think you should try to defend your unhealthy playing habits with the idea of 'all shapes of elo are wonderful, you are an unique little butterfly who is perfect'. Thanks a lot!
{{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
VorenDier (EUNE)
: look I'm gonna tell you why I hate it 20 minutes restriction break momentum and it's straight up frustrating when you to wait 20 minutes for 1 game look I don't get 20 minutes ban all the time but I have a main account 2 years old on which I have this ban and I haven' t played oin that for a whole month.... This ban is literally making me wanna quit ... I'm loosing interest I don't wanna go to my main ... I don't even wanna open the client I'm literally on a verge of quitting it and I don't want to do it... I wanna play on my main account again please understand I don't want the punishment removed just make it so it doesn't make people's interest in the game decrease ... Please understand this. It's a problem ... It seriously is.
: [here](https://gyazo.com/d9a3df686baa3fc96ee55862c0da42eb) is a picture of him picking rengar adc in a ranked, BuT He Is JuSt BeInG QuirkY AND RANDOM {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Could you please explain where do you see that he picked rengar? I Just see him declaring that he would like to play rengar.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QEpRWqMw,comment-id=000200000001000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T08:38:05.250+0000) > > How do you get XP as a solo ADC in a 2v1? Farm? Under tower?
Sure, and the enemy will just let that happen ;D And there will be for sure no jungler to dive your ass 1v3. And why would they push the lane in? They can easily freeze it and sit in the bushes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aritmor,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QEpRWqMw,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T08:47:55.434+0000) > > Well, ok correction - Except the fact that jungler does not take half of your experience for the rest of laning phase for his lvl 2 gank. Better? If support roams on your lane for a gank nobody will report him for ,,exp stealing" either. On the other hand if supp is not there means more xp for the ad. So he could help with the higher lvl.
LastStrike1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gd1NrvEb,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T20:45:18.350+0000) > > I provided a link and you said you watched it already so jeah ... nothing more I can do. Let me rephrase. Provide a link to an article made by Riot Games, where they prove it false that Riot Zephyr banned Nubrac. And I watched the "key parts" people have pointed it, if the article is there in the video, nobody has put it as a key point(which is BS, because ofc it's a key point if it's false.), so if you can either link the article where Riot Games makes such a statement, or a timestamp in that video that shows an official Riot statement, from any of their communication platforms. Then I will review it.
https://twitter.com/RiotZephyr?lang=de She doesn't work at the player support so jeah, obviously, she isn't responsible for player bans (that's what the support is for). > RiotWookieCookie (NA Reedit) - > > This player in particular popped up on our radar a few weeks ago and we decided to not take action at that time because playing Teemo in this method is not against our rules. > > However, after reviewing the continued reports we were receiving (from multiple sources) a pattern was forming where this targeted off meta behavior was occurring most often in games when the player was with a high profile streamer. If you want to play off meta, we think that's great! If you want to play off meta only to spite other players and reap the negative reactions and attention from their viewers while they are streaming then we don’t consider that a good faith use of off meta play. They investigated the situation and decided to ban him. Btw. this goes both ways. Show me a link where it says that Riot Zephyr was responsible for the ban.
LastStrike1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=gd1NrvEb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T20:37:28.268+0000) > > They have been proven false since Saturday last week .... > > 1) Nightblue3 has no Riot friends > 2) Riot Zephyr has nothing to do with the bans, she is responsible for the league partner program and only forwarded the Support ticket to the Riot support > 3) Nubrac is a griefing idiot and has no clue what he's talking about Do provide a link for where they have been proven false, as I seem to have missed them. And no, grieving is something such as inting etc. and I strongly disagree with that he's grieving. Personally I would dodge a queue with Nubrac in it, because I believe his tactic is super bad. However I don't consider it grieving in any way.
I provided a link and you said you watched it already so jeah ... nothing more I can do.
LastStrike1 (EUNE)
: DO NOTE THAT'S RUMOURS THAT HIS CONTACT WITHIN RIOT GAMES IS Riot Zephyr. THIS HAS NOT AS OF YET BEEN OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED. If confirmed the allegations made against Riot Zephyr remain. If proven to be false, the allegations against Riot Zephyr will be withdrawn followed up by a sincere apology. Untill the rumour(s) is confirmed, please refrain from looking up on Riot Zephyr, untill these claims have either been confirmed or proven false. As I didn't mention it in the original post, I will permalink this here to make sure no misinterpretations are made. As the rumours are as of the time if writing the post and this comment, not yet confirmed, nor have they been proven false.
They have been proven false since Saturday last week .... 1) Nightblue3 has no Riot friends 2) Riot Zephyr has nothing to do with the bans, she is responsible for the league partner program and only forwarded the Support ticket to the Riot support 3) Nubrac is a griefing idiot and has no clue what he's talking about
LastStrike1 (EUNE)
: Nightblue3 violating Riot Games' Terms of Use. Discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYRKAGlORo You should watch this first and after you watched it ... delete this thread ;D.
: You have to think about the situation from a different perspective. For example, you are queuing up as adc, you find a lobby and get nubrac. He locks in teemo support, and makes 0 effort to communicate with his team before making the teemo support pick. He doesn't ask his team if they are ok with him playing roaming teemo support. He goes midlane without asking permission, soaks up xp, lasthits creeps and leaves his adc 1v2 all game. I would report him if i was in that game. Thats griefing. High elo players agree that it is griefing. If nubrac wants to do this strat he needs to communicate properly. You can't lock in teemo support and stay midlane all game. On the other hand, i do agree that nightblue shouldn't be typing threats in chat. Nightblue went afk said to nubrac that he would call his riot friend and get him banned. That is so childish. Yes nightblue flamed nubrac vocally on stream but everyone does that. In my opinion, nubracs ban was justified, BUT the methods used to get him banned by nightblue are disgusting. Nightblue knew that reporting him wouldn't guarentee nubrac getting punished. So he contacted riot zephyr and convinced him to ban nubrac. A riot employee shouldn't be influenced by someone who isn't a riot employee. In conclusion, they should both have a two week ban. Nubrac for griefing games becuase he didn't communicate with his team. And nightblue because he was toxic and also griefed in that game by going afk.
> In my opinion, nubracs ban was justified, BUT the methods used to get him banned by nightblue are disgusting. Nightblue knew that reporting him wouldn't guarentee nubrac getting punished. So he contacted riot zephyr and convinced him to ban nubrac. A riot employee shouldn't be influenced by someone who isn't a riot employee. Not true. Watch the video where Nb3 talks with Nubrac on discord. Riot Zephyr has nothing to do with this shit. She is responsible for the league partner program stuff and the only thing she did was forwarding a support ticket to the support. Nothing else. Nb3 has no friends at Riot
: fine, you won .. if he actualy did it specificly / mainly to spite on streamers then there is not realy a good point left defending him in particular .. but the strat itself can still be used / salvaged i think .. i mean supporting mid (who can carry **mid-** to lategame) instead of adc(who can carry mid- to **late**game) might be desired depending on how early focused your team is .. since if your team gets to snowball this way your adc can catch-up most of the time (especialy an adc like sivir who can waveclear like crazy)
Btw the midlaner begged Nubrac to leave his lane. So jeah .... He just did what he did without care if his team is okay with his unconventional strategy.
SherLuc (EUW)
: Color caster looking for a PBP caster training partner
JayceGatsby (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lWEu6aZ8,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-13T14:56:25.556+0000) > > And what if they are toxic in normals? > That doesn't solve any problems, it only shifts the problems to another game mode. > > Edit: > The majority of the player base plays normal / aram / bots only. Answer to the question you ask is in the post you replying to. Hone your reading skills before you write, thanks
Mhm maybe I misunderstood your point. If so, I'm sorry. Could you make your point more clear?
Corefornia (EUNE)
: Because i personally won't int or troll. I would just enjoy the game without chat. Idk about others
Jeah, sure, not everyone is going to do that shit. But some will. So it's obviously not worth it ;-(
Corefornia (EUNE)
: Why wouldn't inters and trollers get permbanned? instead of permbanning a toxic player?
They get permabanned. The point is: Why not banning them before they have to resort to trolling / inting (which is way harder to detect) because they can't express their anger in chat?
Corefornia (EUNE)
: If they would give chat mutes or chat restrictions for time. I mean that Riot can make more bendy ban system which would be better
They already tried that. After people knew they wouldn't be able to get rid of the chat restrictions, they stopped caring and started trolling / inting instead of flaming
Shamose (EUW)
: Permanent suspensions are gone. People will now be banned for ∞ months.
I like that idea. Take my axe {{sticker:darius-angry}}
JayceGatsby (EUNE)
: They should do what overwatch did. If you ruin rnaked gmaes, you get banned for whole season ranked games. Not loosing account, can play normals but cant climb that season. With this they could be more strict if it comes to bans. Ofcourse if this doenst helps they can proceed to pemra bans etc. but lets be honest. overwhelming majority of any kind of punishments is always form ranked matches. nobody gives a damn aboutn ormals, not even rito
And what if they are toxic in normals? That doesn't solve any problems, it only shifts the problems to another game mode. Edit: The majority of the player base plays normal / aram / bots only.
: Chat Restriction/Toxicity/Ban discussing things/ ONLY +18 players
**Chat Restriction/Toxicity/Ban discussing things/ ONLY +34 players** That's what I want now.
: > [{quoted}](name=Killler12308,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zUEEFgXu,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-11T10:38:55.752+0000) > > The title says it all pretty much. Nothing else to say here You got to be kidding me. The problem is not toxicity. Mute and there you go. The problem are the %%%%%%s that cause other people to flame: The feeders, the leavers, the people who troll pick in Ranked and so on. Riot cares about flame, i can tell you that. Its a strategy! People who flame are passionate about the game and want to play good and win. They invest money in skins and stuff. Riot does not punish feeders and %%%%%%s on purpose, so that these passionate players get angry about feeding and trolling and start to flame. Then Riot bans the accounts of the flamers and does not touch the accounts of the feeders . (i tested it myself, even ran down mid (!), never got a perma) So the flamers have to make a new account and to buy stuff, which they do, because they are passionate about the game. This way riot generates a shitload of money. Its all a strategy. But a really wicked one. I hope karma gets the riot employes and they get their payment in real life.
Sorry, but that's not game passion .. that's pure stupidity. "lol %%%%ing RITO banned me ... mhm I guess I should give them more money. JEAH! That sounds like a really good idea, let's do it lol!" I bet only a small minority of the already small minority of banned players is stupid enough to spend money again after they got perma banned.
Cheini (EUNE)
: i do wonder which item she picked though :O else nice troll xd
Stormrazor or Dorans shield ;D Don't know if he means first completed item or first item he buys. But in both cases, he's wrong.
: Solution for Smurfs!
What if I share my PC with my girlfriend or what ever? Can only one of us both play then?
Adrian Ashe (EUNE)
: Of course there are trolls,but keep in mind that there are people that really feel bad about it and deserve it to get back in the game. I believe i deserve it{{summoner:4}}
ShacoOrTaco (EUNE)
: Dying to ur lanner like 2-3 times in a row (to a snowballing champ like jax) and if people ask u to farm under tower and u still engage into fight that would be inting. Running down mid and standing in a spot also is inting
And what is it if I win the fight? I mean .. I still engaged, but I killed him this time.
lXiIuLisa (EUW)
: never paid a single cent to this shitfest and never will. This game is a %%%%ing scam they have no respect for players
You're playing a game that you doesn't like ... for nine years? Good lord, that's so dumb-
hmm (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MadEclair,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=HyGuUbIX,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2018-10-25T18:33:33.739+0000) > > Really? Did you just say that, after writing a lengthy post on matchmaking conspiracy theory? > > And they already do it in myriad of different ways that aren't as risky as meddling with matchmaking just to sell you cosmetics. > On top of that - why would they focus on keeping less active players down on the ranking ladder to maximize profit if majority of players stick to the normal gamemodes? If you want to sell something you opt for bigger audience instead of focusing on a niche. > > Or they just let the monkey write the algorithm to save money on hiring another programmer. I mean, if we're going into conspiracy theory stuff we might just get creative. And why stop on that? They probably found that monkey on the moon and it slowly advanced on corporate ladder to become current CEO of Riot Games. Nicolo Laurent never existed. HE'S A MONKEY. IN HUMAN SUIT. IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!!!! > > https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg > > You still failed to address my points. > You have no proof other than your own speculations. Which is as good as no proof at all. Or even worse considering this makes your post look like crazy babble of somebody who's mad because they got stuck in elo hell. > > There are many ways to write a code that isn't necessary fair or has core flaws that made climbing unfair towards certain group[s] of players. Yet after so many years of League's existence there wasn't a single person who outed Riot for doing that. Not a single one that came forward with at least one piece of evidence that would out Riot for influencing matchmaking. > > Except that writing piece of code that does not accomplish the goal isn't the solution and makes zero sense. Just like this comparison. > > Yes, indeed. This is not a special needs class. Nice science skills mate. I would recommend you to read through this http://wiki.c2.com/?FallaciousArgument Then try again by actually writing something logical. I claim that matchmaking is not completely random distribution of people with same mmr. But that for example if you have bad mmr you will have worse teams. Or that matchmaking is trying to balance out your winrate to be 50%. This may also happen in normal games which you mentioned, however it is more annoying in ranked games. It is a completely valid assumptions. I used social science combined with what is the most likely code Riot would write. Then all you need to do is to google about MMR and you can even see that Riot confirms what I say. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-Guide If you read the part fair matchmaking, they are just matching you up so that you have 50% chance to win. If you play good, then your team is worse? Thats really exactly what I claimed. That is their official goal, who knows how powerful code they are using to achieve it, perhaps even machine learning. And what is the consequence of the code trying to give you 50% winrate despite playing good? Crap teams when you play good and more tilted trolls.
> But that for example if you have bad mmr you will have worse teams Wtf do you expect? If you lose a lot of games and your mmr is dropping down ... Do you really expect to get better players? The matchmaking algorithm matches you with and against people with nearly the same mmr. If your mmr drops down, your teammates are getting worse. But the same applies to the enemy's team, so ... > If you read the part fair matchmaking, they are just matching you up so that you have 50% chance to win. Yeah, they match 2 evenly strong teams against each other. That's what a matchmaking is for. > If you play good, then your team is worse? That's not what the article says. If you're better than your mmr, than you're the factor that increases the chance of your team winning. Pretty simple. You, your team and the enemy teams players are from the same pool. If you're better than your mmr, than chances of your team winning are maybe 60/40 or even 70/30, **until** you reach the mmr that equals your skill. THAN! you will get a 50/50 % winrate. Because you aren't a game deciding factor anymore, because you're as good as the other players in your / enemy team
Str33TXeR (EUW)
: A robber walks into a bank and politely asks to receive all the money while having his gun pointing to whoever is in the building. A player politely talks with all his fellows while running down mid or baiting teammates into taking poor trades and end up dying. A robber walks into a bank strongly asking with a severe voice and yelling at everyone to give him all the money without having any guns pointing directions. A player starts yelling, cursing and flaming everyone on the map while doing absolutely nothing wrong on the battlefield. Riot logic: robber with strong words and severe voice gets punished / a.k.a / flaming player robber with beautiful words and kindness who asks for money while having a gun pointing directions gets away with it / a.k.a / polite player soft inting, soft baiting teammates Adjust the story as you wish but i'm sure you catch my drift! Long live rito!!! *NOT*
> A robber walks into a bank and politely asks to receive all the money while having his gun pointing to whoever is in the building. Gets punished. > A player politely talks with all his fellows while running down mid or baiting teammates into taking poor trades and end up dying. Gets punished. > A robber walks into a bank strongly asking with a severe voice and yelling at everyone to give him all the money without having any guns pointing directions. Punished. > A player starts yelling, cursing and flaming everyone on the map while doing absolutely nothing wrong on the battlefield. Punished. Whats your point?
Baka Red (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=KeLhtc81,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-10-04T11:58:27.959+0000) > > ? > Honor exists for like 3 years now?! There was an honor system even before the current one. It was harder to get one of those old honor badges than it is to climb to honor 5 these days - at least imo. Just fyi. Oh, and I agree with that "chat logs or it didn't happen." And in case someone thinking premade have some extra power within IFS happens to see this : Riot has told us that one report is as strong as nine. That means that solo player has actually slightly more power within IFS than premades have, since solo player can report each premade and potentially get them all punished, while the premade reports still count as one (the solo player will still be judged just as heavily as the premade though - IFS is impartial in that regard).
Damn, I was wrong as %%%%. They really Introduced honor 8 years ago: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2595054 My bad :D
C4bal (EUW)
: i got a chat ban and honor reset too. for just 1 game. was stuck in a normal with 4 toxic premades who racked up 40+deaths. kept insulting me and my IQ. in the end i wrote "85IQ teach me how to feed pls". they wrote to enemy team to report me, so i was hit with 4-9 reports. instantly chat restricted. i wrote the support and the guy said that in his opinion i wasnt toxic at all (i had the top 10% honor badge for the last 8 years lol), but he cannot interfere with the auto-punishment system. feels a bit unfair to get reported by premades who were ultra-toxic, the support worker says im not at fault and im still honor locked. all he said is "you should have muted them". in comparison, this chat is wild, with several swear words and stuff lol
> i had the top 10% honor badge for the last 8 years lol ? Honor exists for like 3 years now?! > and the guy said that in his opinion i wasnt toxic at all If that is true, he would have unbanned you. Reform card or didn't happen.
Molens (EUNE)
: becouse its common language, this is not somthing unique and i havent learned these words from the street, i dont talk english on the street. and again noone means what they say when they swear.
If you don't mean it, why say it?
Molens (EUNE)
: no i got those words from lol chat itself... and the rest of the jokes like yas main. also you call me toxic scum... hahaha, i am not toxic just becouse i get frustrated with u nskilled players, and im very certain you are toxic and 15 or less. and this may get me banned becouse riot tryes too hard to keep the age under 18, you cant exploit a grown up tha easily.
A grown-up man that want people to kill themselves over a video game? You should seek some help lol
: I'M GONNA FLAME AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN. for ever and ever. It's what they deserve. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Akaśhí (EUNE)
: Internationall - something carried among nations... the right word is Intentionally.
Ups, dumb auto-correction ;)
AlAyham (EUW)
: 14 DAYS SUSPENDED
So you don't care if people Intentionally feede in your games?
PzyXo (EUW)
: Rito games
SikumKxx (EUW)
: RIOTS STUPID BAN SYSTEM
Wow, that whole thing is put into one sentence.
Fisit (EUW)
: yes i am guilty im not disputing that fact im saying i deserve a trial to determine a punishment so i can given my opinion on why i said the things i did. i am disputing the fact i believe the punishment was to harsh therefore by disputing it they can intake the mitigating factors not just the aggravating factors.
Do you had a 14 day ban before?
Fisit (EUW)
: Did i say i wasnt guilty? No, instead of trying to be a smart ass have a intellectual conversation for once.
Why a trial if you're obviously guilty. That doesn't make sense. And no, the other guy started isn't an excuse since kindergarten.
Fisit (EUW)
: You point is completely over the top im saying that i should be given the right to a fair trial before they just say fk it and ban me completely
Did you flame? Yes? K, trial completed, you're guilty, cu.
: He just added me ingame on yet another bought account, claims he's 27.
: ***
Would love to know how old you are ;^)
AthanKemen (EUNE)
: ***
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Entertainment_Merchants_Ass%27n > Holding > Bans on the sale of violent video games to children without parental supervision violate the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment.[1] United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit affirmed. I think you misunderstood the case. And jeah, I thought as a lawyer one should understand how free speech works ;D
: > [{quoted}](name=Bettnachleger,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ZXMW4E1a,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-13T02:39:23.849+0000) > > lol I'm playing since 2009 beta. > i can count this shit on 2 hands(2 hands for each of these crimes). > What am I doing wrong (or right) good sir? > Would love to know. Are you saying you've been playing since beta and you can count on both hands the amount of times you've seen that level of toxicity? Well someone's lying lol. Or you must have played 1 game a year or something. To OP send a ticket be nice try reason with them but I don't hold much hope unfortunately. They will tell you even though they know the chat log is not bad they will tell you you were still slightly negative and that's enough, shocking tbh.
Nope, it's true. I remember exactly ONE time where a guy wished me cancer. That was a amumu like 3 years back, shortly after the ifs was introduced. He got a permaban right after the game. Death threats are rare as %%%%. All of my friends would say the same lol. They never encounter death threats too. inting's the same. Can't remember the last time someone was inting in my games.
Pyrosen (EUW)
: Appealing my perma-ban, probably hopeless but I'm out of options.
> I've seen countless amounts of toxicity. I've had people run it down mid during my ranked games, I've been told to die an unconfirmed amount of times but I'd say around 200-300 would be accurate. I've had a Draven one trick write down my name on a list and said "If I ever see you in my game again we lose" in a game where I was 16 - 4 - 30 on Sejuani which we won, because I took a kill bot. lol I'm playing since 2009 beta. i can count this shit on 2 hands(2 hands for each of these crimes). What am I doing wrong (or right) good sir? Would love to know.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Lnf9NYBJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-04T10:12:58.755+0000) > > If you report everyone you meet to the police, isn't that better in order to ensure that all crime is punished? police cost money and get distracted from other things...riot is just a computer system...and they make 10times the money as any police department of any country...
Riot is a company, not a computer system.
Mugurele (EUNE)
: Well I just explained in my post, if someone goes on a hot streak of toxic behavior games, eventually he will get a chat ban or 14-days ban, yet if he would get a queue time before everygame and when he flames in game he gets insta ban on chat, which would be the best for everybody, the guy would eventualy chill, because he wont talk crap anymore. Queue time is more hurtfull and would really make the player think twice befor acting negative, if I’d have to wait 45 minutes before every game for like 20 games, you can figure it out, I don’t wanna lose my life waiting and also I wanna play now, so I’ll just chill and learn to act normaly, so I don’t have to destroy everybody’s game.
Okay, a longer queue time is more hurtful than a permaban? Make sense. Seriously, a queue penalty would make you think twice before acting, but a permaban is fine and you was able to ignore it?
Nogardz (EUW)
: Exactly my point, this should be a team based game, in which a team or somebody from a team should win but it actually is a team dependent game in which if ONE player wants he can make FOUR players lose and what those FOUR players can do is watch it happen. If you died X times, you would just lose LP and if you stood in the spectate, you could lose less LP if the rest of your team wins or if you prefer, just lose those 20LP and go another game right away. It is not about removing as punishment but as actual gameplay, there would be no punishment for dying those X times besides losing the LP, which would be the game rules. If you had that bad game and died, gotta improve, and people wouldn't want that to happen, so they would actually help you because it is MORE LIKELY for them to lose and nothing would happen to you as punishment rather than just impossible to win 4v5 and they tilting you to go afk to get a ban.
Just 5 man one player over and over again, until its a 4v5. Then 5 man the next one until it's a 3v5 and so on ;D Pretty good idea!
Mugurele (EUNE)
: Fair enough, RIOT is a gaming company, this company is headed by real people who can emphatise with this idea, atleast that’s what I think, all our time spent here on our accounts really matters for us, is time, a lot of it, full of memories, as summoners. This is why reforming is very important, you learn a lot from these bad experiences sooner or later, everybody can change. New sets of rules could improve the game not only for toxic people but for all players. This would be better then the DARK in my post. Share the thought for a second, and feel this loneliness. I struggled to improve and I’m sure a lot of people did, and some of us really failed, this failure is serious. 👍🏼
> New sets of rules could improve the game not only for toxic people but for all players. What kind of rules?`And why? I mean, toxic players ignore the rules anyway?! (otherwise you wouldn't be perma banned)
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