Arnoter (EUW)
: >can you please explain Others played better with Lux then you
Love how this comment has negative votes and yet is 100% correct xD.
: No S? Seriously?!
It's not based on how well other champions played in the game, it's based on other people who have played the champion. Lux is one of the "broken champs" in Aram, and so people go 10+/0/20+ with decent CS. So, it just means people played Lux a lot better than you did, even though you did really well yourself.
Crispèn (EUW)
: Items in ARAM
AP Teemo it becomes a counter, but I always go Attack speed rather than AP, because of the oracles, and I enjoy the gameplay when I'm machine gunning people down whilst they can't hit me. Plus, the shrooms do sometimes (A few times for me to be honest) come in handy, cause when you get some behind enemies and they try panic running, they don't think of shrooms, even with an oracle.
: Growing more and more annoyed at the Q problems lately
Why do people ask for compensation on a FREE game? You literally do not need to spend a single penny in this game and it's still playable (When Rito are not messing things up, like Crash xD), yet people want compensation? What makes you think you deserve compensation? Games have problems and bugs all the time, sometimes gamebreaking, yet most games COST to play lmao.
: Good bye league
Your name doesn't suit you then, "MrNeverSurrender" but surrenders the game :P.
Ålistår (EUW)
: League client is BUGGED FIX IT RITTOOOOOO
Clash has yet again killed LoL, but not really surprising to be honest. Might get another URF mode again though once it's all fixed :P
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Eratos (EUW)
: ye you do {{champion:81}} op right???trash like you need to get ban or at least bronze 5..at least..cuz they need to get carried evry game.
They are on about their perfect bans and the reasons why. Just because you don't think it is a reason why doesn't mean that they are a noob. Xayah can be difficult to deal with in the hands of someone with experience on her, same as the rest of the champions. Every champion can be classed as "OP" in this game, but it's all down to the person playing said champion. I'm really low elo, and most people struggle to deal with Master yi, and so class him as an OP champ, and yet in higher elo he's easier to deal with, and so isn't an OP champ. Yasuo is also really easy to deal with if you know how too, but a good Yasuo player is almost god like. Same as every other champion out there. It's not really the champs, it's more the people playing it. And another thing, just because people are bronze or silver, it doesn't give people who have higher elo the right to think they can act big headed about it. Most people in bronze/silver doesn't have as much experience in the game than those in higher elo. Me for instance, I only started last November time, and so I still have a LOT to learn about this game. That's the only difference between me and people in high elo, they have more experience and more of an understanding of this game. It doesn't mean they are better than me, it just means they have more experience. But go ahead and call people like us Noobies, cause you were once in the same shoes as us. And if you're high elo but still think champs are "broken", then you have either been boosted to high elo, or you still don't understand the mechanics of this game. Just saying.
: Jungle experience.
You'll struggle to find a sight for anything like that because the Jungle changes so much that it's hard to keep track of it all really. Your best bet would be to go into a custom game or practice game and test out each camp and each way to clear the camps etc.
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Inaphyt (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Robindino14,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G79sO6ET,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-05-14T11:44:15.621+0000) > > Gotta abuse your range as velkoz against him, yes I know he has a dash but as soon as he used that he is less mobile for a bit. His dash cooldown does get reduced by every proc of his passive. vel kozes damage is dealt from relatively close range at least in my experience if you can land E into laser is pretty much your damage been playing a long time in plat atm.. if you miss anything he can ulti you the second you throw e and there's no escape, if you miss anything he will be on you and dash cools down much quicker than you expect especially with max cdr, at range vel koz's damage is just q and laser which wont kill even a squishy, his damage needs procs in quick succession which occurs at close range.
I play Vel'koz a lot as well, and the best way to deal with anyone with a lot of mobility is to use your abilities whilst backtracking. If you backstep and then throw out an ability, the only way they'll get you is by stepping into your attack or walking round it, which means they either take some damage or they don't get close to you. Vel is easy to play as long as you keep long ranged and keep throwing out his Q's at an angle as the range of it is good. the only 2 champs I have a problem with as Vel is {{champion:103}} and {{champion:105}} . Ahri because of her Ulti being able to move three times in a row, whilst fizz is their mobility + the invulnerability ability they have. Other than that the rest can be dealt with by just badstepping whilst throwing out abilities. Hard to do to begin with due to mana, but get {{item:3165}} and your mana doesn't drop much due to the easy wave clear + your W refunding mana if it kills minions.
Alttu (EUNE)
: veigar burf plz
Plus, You should never really push forward with veigar unless you get your stun off first. If you get that off, you can quickly use your Q, W, then back away again. That's the only time to engage with him, and is hard enough for some people to deal with already. Same as Annie, I think she's got the lowest range for AP mid champs, but her burst is a 1 shot so that makes up for it. And then when you have R up you can also use that when you stun someone. Only engage close to someone if you either stu n them, or know that your Ulti can kill them. Your W has a long enough range to nuke someone down before engaging, so just use that ability and use your Q to last hit minions so it stacks your passive up.
rèV (EUW)
: You are asking for informations that you should have. No one can tell you, if you are doing something right or wrong since no one knows how you approach and play the game. How do you measure if you got better or worse? What's your metric to measure this? With what mindset do you go into the game: to "play some League of Legends" or to improve? How do you practice in general? Do you have routines to improve? Do you know what people you consistently do well against and what people you struggle against? Practicing League is the same as practicing everything else. If you do stuff mindlessly, you will not improve effectivly. If I want to improve my guitar play, it's not enough to play the same song over and over again without thinking about other things. If I want to get good at dribbling in any sport, it's not enough to shoot or throw the ball and practice my aim. Becoming a better overall player depends on at how many different and complementary aspects you improve. You can practice your CSing in custom games over and over again. It's not bad, but it won't help you when you have to lane against someone, that applies pressure, hence changes the conditions you train in. You are playing ARAMs most of the times as far as I can see. ARAM is possibly the worst permanent game mode there is to improve. You don't learn anything about CSing, you don't learn wave management/control, you don't learn vision control or getting any map awareness. Furthermore you don't specificially improve on champions you actually want to improve on, since it's semi-random what kind of champion you get. If you keep making the same mistakes over and over again, then you don't really thinkg about them while playing or you just don't have enough attention span left to focus on these. What that means is, that you need very little very little of your attention span to CS if you are actually good at that, which obviously leaves you a lot of attention span for other things. What you need to work on? No one, but you should know. If you don't have an intrinsic understanding of the game, then you won't improve anymore at a certain point without using your head or putting in the extra effort.
I've been playing a lot of ARAM recently due to joining a club and they do a lot of Aram so I decided to join them. At the moment I am learning how to path and ward properly as a jungler and learn when the best times are to gank and other specific things like that. I wouldn't say I'm good at CSing, but I do keep up in laning phase, I just drop a lot when it comes to mid game because I start concerntrating on kills rather than CS which I know is a big problem of mine. I just play Aram at the moment to have a little fun as Ranked has annoyed me a little as I'm sick of getting to promo's to then make so many mistakes that we lose. I can understand how it's hard to explain what mistakes I'm making for someone else, as it's me that's making the mistakes. I'm just not used to concerntrating on so much in a game XD. I know I need better pathing, better warding, better map awareness and better team fighting skills. I know all of this, but then I end up making the same mistakes again like carryng around 2 wards that I don't place down, or forgetting to pick up control wards to help one of the lanes have perma vision.
: Platinum 5 player willing to Coach and Teach Players ;)
If this is still up then add me please, BubbleButterz. I'm willing to take ANY advice possible as I feel I've hit a wall with the game.
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Fer00 (EUNE)
: A newbie's question.
I've been playing this game for about 7-8 months now and am still learning a few things like the items, runes and masteries. But I do alright in games atm cause atm I follow mobafire guides for champs and I have a small champ pool for each lane (Apart from top, I dunno why but I am probably the worst top laner there ever was XD). After about 2 months of playing the game, I noticed that my laning phase (The start) I was always majorly down in CS, so I played a lot, and I mean a lot, of custom games against 1 bot so I could learn to properly last hit minions whilst pushing someone back in lane. That'd be a good place to start. Just try out a few champions and see what your best play style is, as everyone has a different playstyle. Then just learn how to CS with most of those champs. CSing is a major part of the game, and can give you a relative boost at the beginning of the games letting you get your big items quicker. If you also search up Mobafire on the browser, you'll find guides for every champion with indepth explanations about what their strengths are ETC. Hope this has helped at all, I'm still learning myself but don't mind sharing my experiences so far :)
: Thank you Riot for showing us you still don't know what the hell you're doing
{{champion:113}} Armor can be moronic, but all it takes is for you to do a little damage to her, wait a second or 2, then use your full combo, because her passive will be down. So just step in, hit her once, step out, wait a second, step back in and do your burst, don't start with it. The only thing I can think that's "broken" with Sej is the fact that whilst she is there, if a melee champ auto attacks someone, it stacks her ice thing that'll give her a stun after 4 procs of it. But that can be dealt with as it'sonly affective on melee champs, doesn't work with a ranged champion doing it. She may need a few tweeks here and there, but then the same could be said about a lot of the champions. It's all down to who plays here. I'll give you an example of another champion. {{champion:107}} Now Rengar, some of the people I face who play him are GODLY and drop me within a few hits, whilst when I play him I mess up a lot of the time and so am basically terrible at him. Give me Sej and I'll probably show you how bad she can be, because nearly all her attacks have become skill shots now instead of just the Q and R that used to be skill shots, but were pretty easy to hit.
Xeoron (EUNE)
: Petition for Maokai buff or change revert
I think he needs a nerf. When 1 sapling from a support built maokai wth barely any AP can do 900 damage to a 150 MR Amumu, then you know it's broken. When a supp can out damage their whole team whilst building support items, then you defo know it's broken. It needs a major nerf. I agree the ulti is a little slow, but it's overpowered when used properly as it can screw up an entire team fight. Then you get the ability where you can dive at you every few seconds, stunning or knocking you up. All he literally has to do is hide in a bush, put 4-5 saplings down and do nothing else, and whoever tries to come near him is dead.
: Hello - if you're willing to use teamspeak, Meraki Gaming has a very friendly, not too big community, Might be something you may find enjoyable? you don't need to join the community to play there, so don't worry about that. Main post is >- [Here](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en/qw1scBTv-meraki-gaming-social-club) Bronze Team post >- [Here](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en/TspYkANX-team-heliac-silver-trainee-team)
I can get TS downloaded no problem :). I shall look into it, thank you very much.
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Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=BubbleButterz,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Owkb6BiE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-24T17:08:33.199+0000) > > True, but if League ever went to play to play, they'd also lose a lot of other players as well as truthfully, I know I wouldn't pay to play it. Maybe if their was less trollers and less flamers, I'd consider it, but it's something I wouldn't completely pay for as there is already a lot of things in game that you have to pay for to get. I didn't say Pay to Play, I said Buy to Play. You buy a copy of the game, you link the license key to your account then the game is yours to play. If you get perm banned then you need a new copy of the game to play. People won't troll if they have something to lose. Things like Skins aren't "necessities" they are luxuries, you are not forced to buy them.
Ah, my mistake there, I miss-read it like the genius I am XD. That does make a lot of sense then. I'd pay for the game itself as long as I don't need to pay for monthly subscriptions. And the skins are needed, I'd rather be emumu than amumu :P
Azopt (EUNE)
: Didn't really play{{champion:60}} But i did play{{champion:28}} a lot recently and she is amazing. Unless they have a control ward, you can pretty much gank any lane.
I gave {{champion:60}} a try because I was told she was difficult to play, and I really love her playstyle, but I'm still pretty bad at her lol. And I wanna try {{champion:28}} because I like the idea of being stealth a lot (I play a rogue in a lot of MMORPG games, love the playstyle of rogue classes).
Azopt (EUNE)
: You should try {{champion:120}} He is an amazing jungler and also has a great effect in teamfights.
Was thinking of trying him, and I'm also getting better with {{champion:60}} . I was also thinking of trying{{champion:28}} to broaden my champ pool in the jungle. Only down side is IP is such a pain to get to buy these champs lol.
Azopt (EUNE)
: Well, I have to agree. It happens, it happens a lot.
Good thing about the jungler getting kills though is I have a lot more map pressure if I'm fed than if I have a lot of assists. But I always end up with more assists than kills in every game. It's very rare I have more kills than assists, but that's because I main {{champion:32}} and build mainly tank so I can be the front line.
Azopt (EUNE)
: When you play jungle, try not to take kills when you gank, but instead, give them to your teammates.
I try to do that as much as possible, but 9/10 if I leave a kill for a team mate, they miss and the person get's away XD. So I end up just going for kills just so they can have a bit more lane pressure.
: Why do people troll :-/
Plus, would appreciate it if people could give me some advice to better myself at maining jungle, because I know 100% I make so many stupid little mistakes and sometimes even if I do well, I don't feel I've done well because of the mistakes I've made. I've played against a terrible jungler, but I still made mistakes. I didn't die in the game, but I could have played some team fights a lot better than I did.
Azopt (EUNE)
: Never give up mate, not even when they flame you or troll. Just mute them, try to take some farm, do objectives and you might win.
I don't want to give up because I really enjoy the game and I love playing jungle, but every lose I've had it's been my fault, even if I did most damage and got the most kills and the least deaths. But because I didn't camp their lane, they lost. I'm close to giving up with jungle and just maining either mid or ADC, but I'd miss my map pressure too much.
Azopt (EUNE)
: Honestly, most of the players now are either boosted or bought the accounts. I've seen at least 10 Platinum players that can't farm, kite.. They don't even communicate. Usually their score is 1/8 0/10+
I know I belong in Bronze still because I make so many easy mistakes and sometimes my farming is just bad, but I also know I'm improving with every game I play. but when I go 2/8/9 in a game with a champ I have been playing for a while because I have 2 people stealing all my farm, I feel absolutly crap again and makes me feel like giving up with the game again.
Antenora (EUW)
: People troll because there is no consequences for trolling. They get banned? big wow lets make a new account in less than 2 mins. If LoL operated like Overwatch and was Buy to play you'd see the amount of trolls would drastically reduce as people would have something to lose (their game license)
True, but if League ever went to play to play, they'd also lose a lot of other players as well as truthfully, I know I wouldn't pay to play it. Maybe if their was less trollers and less flamers, I'd consider it, but it's something I wouldn't completely pay for as there is already a lot of things in game that you have to pay for to get.
: They are just kids and lack the maturity to understand how to behave in the company of others. Playing between about 4pm and about 7pm seems to be the worst time for this behaviour; just after the kids get out of school.
I understand that in that game I made quite a few mistakes, but I found it really hard to gear up and get stronger. Took me 20 minutes to finally get my second item, which is terrible as I'm normally on my 4th by the time it hits 20 minutes.
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amfiR (EUNE)
: Hate on Yasuo continues...
In my opinion there are a few things I hate about Yasuo, and is the reason I ban him 100% of the chances I get too. The first reason is his wind sheild, which can not only deflect nearly all spells, including ults (I faced a Yasuo on kata and it could block my dagger from landing on the ground, and could block my spinning blades, making it impossible for me to win as all my spells were useless against him), and it has a shorter cooldown compared to ults. Something needs to be done about his windwall, because if it's a good Yasuo player (And when I say good I mean someone who has played a lot of him and gotten used to his mechanics, cause he isn't too hard of a champ to play) then most mid lane champions are destroyed in laning phase against him. The next problem with Yasuo is the fact he can slide between waves of minions, meaning it's almost impossible to get away from him if he's chasing you, or almost impossible to get him if you're chasing him. He has so much mobility that he's one of the highest mobile champs in the game. Then it comes to his damage. He hits for a stupid amount right from the get go, 2 hits with his Q attack and that's half health of a champ gone, and it has a pretty far reach. Then, when it hits either a minion or a champ 3 times, he can then make a tornado, which I will admit is pretty easy to notice when he has it and pretty easy to dodge. But the problem here is all he has to do is keep getting his tornado, and he can push anyone out of lane and away from minions by using it to block your path. And lastely, and this is the biggest one for me, and I understand I am only in bronze so I'm a pretty terrible player, but most Yasuo's I've ever faced or had as a team have been extremely toxic. Not as much as riven mains, but not far behind. They act like they are the best players in the world and when they lose it's all down to their teams fault, when these yasuo's are normally second lowest to damage (Support is normally first) least kills and assists, least CS and the most deaths, but they blame it on their team, and then start saying that people are "scripting". He's just a broken champion that is really hard to fix, same as rengar. Rengar has had a few "fixes" but went from overpowered, to slaughtered by anything near him, to being overpoowered again. Riot just can't figure out what they can do to fix Yasuo's broken specs without breaking the champion completely. I've vowed never to play Yasuo due to the fact that there is so much hate towards him lol. Just to be clear, these are all my opinions, some of them may be wrong to some people, but it's just how I feel about the champion Yasuo.
: Oki maybe things will turn around for you then. The reason why I question your logic is because I was in your spot when I started to play ranked in season 3. I couldnt for my life get out of silver 1 and was jojo-ing between silver 1 and silver 2 for season 3-4. Then I just took a deep look at myself and my actual skills and come to realize two things: 1) I only played "easy" champs like Garen (was a total top bully s3-4 but not so good late), Morgana mid (so easy to just safe farm the enitre lane phase) and MF adc etc. So even if I slightly or even clearly won the lane, it honestly didnt mean that much since I fell off late game and coudlnt carry with the lead I got in lane. So you cannot really say anything about your lanephase without taking the whole picture into consideration, like the "carry"-ability of your champ etc. 2) I didnt in any way dominate most of my games. Out of 10 games, I maybe sucked in 2, crushed in 3 and played average compared to my opponents and teammates in 5. This is NOT a clear case of someone deserving to be promoted. With some luck, I might have, but you cannot ignore the fact that I in some way only showed that I was actually better than my silver1-competitors in 3/10 games. What Im trying to say is that many players have the wrong idea about their own skill level and what rank they deserve (including myself a while ago). People who play evenly in most games are actually exactly where they belong. To advance through the leagues, you must be **BETTER** than your competitors in most of your games, in your current league.
That makes a lot of sense. I decided to do just that a few days ago, go over all my games and compare them to dia/plat players, and I realised that with my skill level, I probably do belong in bronze. I make some very stupid mistakes and play some easy champs that can do well start, but majorly fall behind mid/end. So I'm starting to now look for the more difficult champs to play and am going to concerntrate on learning their rotations and playstyles, as the champs I'm playing atm are quite simple compared to most, and so I won't learn how to properly control myself when I'm playing a game. So being in bronze right now makes sense to me, as I've realised I'm just a bronze player because of how bad I actually am at this game. I still have a hell of a lot to learn and still have a very long way to go before I leave bronze.
Wen294 (EUW)
: Increase sample size: problem solved.
What do you mean increase sample size? You mean play more champs? Cause if so, that's what I'm doing. I'm learning to play Rengar and Elise Jungle, I'm gunna learn to play either Ahri or Lux mid, and I already know how to play Ashe and Sivir bot and Morg suppot. Only thing I am useless at is top lane, whenever I go there, I always lose XD
Gojiraw (EUNE)
: You need at least 4 games to have a decent game pool. You can't focus on just a bunch of games, like that. Just play and things will even out. The number of games you lost due to AFK or trolls will even with the games that you will win due to AFKs in the enemy team. What's left is your actual performance, games won or lost due to your performance. You're not gonna win all the games, but you will have a positive win rate if you generally perform well. Accept that you are bad and, if you want, try to improve. Looking at your history, you kinda make the usual Bronze mistakes. Play a very large number of different champions, you don't get appropriate runes and masteries, you build items that don't make sense, you die too much, you don't farm too well. Focus on few champions, learn to play those properly, learn to build them, improve your general game understandings and results will come.
Over the past week I've basically stuck to 3 champs. Amumu (Jungle), Vel'Koz and Veigar (mid). My csing has inproved and most games I don't die as often as I used too. I know I make mistakes, but the games I'm on about are the ones where I'm winning my lane, getting kills, getting decent CS and not dying much, but the second it comes to team fights, we are dealing with a fed top lane, fed jungle and fed ADC, making it really hard to "carry" the game to a win.
Z0Ð14C (EUW)
: Well i'm climbing myself and climb 1 and 1/2 division and fall 1, so it is a choir. but games are split up into 2 divisons. there are games where you are intended to carry. and games where you are ment to be carried, and enable the better players or stronger champs on your team, and sometimes theese doesn't add up, you get team mates that don't do their part, may that be due to bad matchups or them just only playing on 50% but you will win games and loose games, and if you play well and are good you will climb, but it is a job to climb, it's not something that comes over a weekend. if i am lucky i climb a division on a weekend, not from b4 to g3, but try and find 2-3 roles and 2-3 champs in thoose, and stick to them. not only for a week, or a day, but for 6 months, and you will climb, you learn a lot from that, after you learn basic mechanics of the champ you will focus on other things, roams, strengths, matchups, cs, vision, shotcalls etc. stick to champs and learn from them.
I've already worked out that my playstyle was way too thick, as I was playing every lane possible. So now I've moved onto maining jungle with a champ I'm comfortable with {{champion:32}} :D, or playing mid lane with 2 champs I'm good with {{champion:161}} {{champion:45}}. I'm also trying to learn to play {{champion:60}} and {{champion:107}} jungle, but they are difficult for me to get used too, but I'll get there with those 2 eventually.
JNVG (EUW)
: I think that its hard to feel motivated with a 52% win rate or something similar, even though you may be climbing it doesn't really feel as though you are getting results from what you put in. Compound this with a losing streak an an afk or trolls and it really seems as if riot is out to get you
It's not that I'm not motivated, I'm just frustrated at people trolling or inting in ranked games. I don't mind it in normal, cause I'll admit I do play worse in normals than ranked cause it doesn't mean anything really, but in ranked I try my best and work on the mistakes I make. For instance, I used to always think as a jungler to gank whenever possible and skip getting farm, but I've realized that farming up to get me stronger helps a lot more in the long run than ganks. So I only gank when I am 100% sure I'm either going to get a kill, get them to use a summoner spell or give my team a break to farm up a little more to get stronger. I'll be the first to admit I have a long way to go before I get classed as being good at the game, and have a lot to learn still, and I know that ranked games is basically a grind to rank up. And I know that some people just have bad games. But when I have a jungler who has died 4 times to their camps, a Support who charges at people under tower without doing any damage to them, or an ADC that refuses to join into team fights, and the second we start winning goes afk till we fall behind again, it starts frustrating me a little bit. I'm determined to get out of bronze this season at least, so my sights are on silver 5 at least by the end of this season, and hopefully I'll get there.
: Why do you believe that "noobs", "afkers" and "trolls" have a higher chance of getting randomly sorted into** your** team and not your enemy team? Why do all players who feel they are stuck in low elo believe that? In the short run, you might be a little bit unlucky but IF you truly are better than your current league thus deserving of a promotion, you WILL win more games than you lose in the long run. I bet there is some other dude who complains to his friends how he is stuck in bronze 3 due to "this BubbleButterz" who "trolled and fed the entire game". I dont want to be rude, and I dont say that stats says everything, but judging on your ranked stats, its actually more likely that he is right, since you average 2/10 w low CS in your games.
> [{quoted}](name=Babbediboopi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qqwgXgoE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-04-10T14:12:53.071+0000) > > Why do you believe that "noobs", "afkers" and "trolls" have a higher chance of getting randomly sorted into** your** team and not your enemy team? Why do all players who feel they are stuck in low elo believe that? In the short run, you might be a little bit unlucky but IF you truly are better than your current league thus deserving of a promotion, you WILL win more games than you lose in the long run. > > I bet there is some other dude who complains to his friends how he is stuck in bronze 3 due to "this BubbleButterz" who "trolled and fed the entire game". I dont want to be rude, and I dont say that stats says everything, but judging on your ranked stats, its actually more likely that he is right, since you average 2/10 w low CS in your games. Here's the thing, I have a low win rate in Ranked atm due to me doing it months ago when I wasn't any good. I was a terrible player with terrible CS and lane positioning. I've improved since then, and have been playing a lot better since. only 1 of my ranked games I played terrible and ended up feeding mid lane due to hacing a trolling jungler, and I was ganked 4 times in the space of 6 minutes (My fault there because my positioning was absolutely terrible to say I was ganked that much, I should have always been prepared for it). But I've now played 5 ranked games and won 2 of them, and 4 out of 5 of them I had out CS'd most of the people playing that match, and finished on a positive K/D and had been winning either my lane or ganking properly as a jungler. I understand that it's a complete grind to get up into higher ranks, but I just feel frustrated that I'm losing games due to my terrible end game as everywhere else has been fed, making it almost impossible for me not to die within seconds. When I first started playing ranked (About 5-6 months ago at least, that's where I was positioned into bronze 3) I was a terrible player who couldn't do anything right. So I've spent the past few months learning to properly CS, lane control, positioning, counter ganking if I'm a jungler, pinging properly and understanding pings. I've done a lot when it comes to improving, and feel like I have improved quite a lot as I'm getting a lot more S and A ranks, rather than my C-D ranks I used to get. But I feel my rank is letting me down, because I constantly get called a noob due to being in bronze 3, and is why I'm trying to boost my rank up. I'm gunna keep trying and keep getting better at it, and hopefully one day I may see a silver badge on my profile lol.
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: > [{quoted}](name=BubbleButterz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AtPQLtAj,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-04-09T19:00:00.153+0000) > > Plus, from the look of all your latest games, you need to work on your item building as you seem to be getting items completely wrong on most of your champs. Pick 1-2 champs per lane to learn on, do some massive research into what items they use, what masteries and what runes, and learn from there. please do explain how they are wrong?
You rush the bloodthruster, which isn't useful till later game, you should really either go essance reaver or Infinity Edge first. If you are confused with builds, check MobaFire. They have detailed guides to every champ in league made by other people, and they haven't steered me wrong yet. Hacing bloodthurst at the start is a waste of 3,700 points, you could have infinity edge way before you get bloodthurst, giving you 20% crit chance and +50% crit damage, meaning you'll do more damage from the start. Example: Jinx You can either start with {{item:3006}} or {{item:3031}} , depending on if you wantto attack quicker or do more damage to start with. Whichever one you didn't choose you then go for that one. After that, go {{item:3085}} , then either {{item:3072}} for more damage, or {{item:3094}} for more crit/attack speed. Then if you can, go {{item:3036}} and then last {{item:3139}} . This will give you a lot of AD + att speed + life steal + movement speed and easy wave clear to give you amazing CS. But I'd check out MobaFire if I were you, cause you can learn a lot from it, and some of the builds make it easier to carry a losing game. Just my opinion, and I'm only trying to help, you don't need to accept my help if you don't want it.
Wen294 (EUW)
: Okey so i searched your game; I don't think tenacity boots was a good idea. You bought NO hp, (first time i've see a vel without rylai or liandrys). Meaning that once annie stunned you, you were dead anyway. The tenacity is useless for the cc called death. Should've gone magic pen boots. Aside from that only teemo blind, which doesn't affect you apart from dmg, alistar mains source is unaffected by tenacity (knockup and knockback), and after that only the e. Basically you bought tenacity for alistar e. Not the best choice to make. And magic resist/hp would've been a good idea anyway since they had teemo. Banshees would've helped you against shrooms. Aside from that only magic resist and hp helps you survive against annie, when you're up against her always make sure to get it. Rylais helps keeping her away as well, except for when she has flash. As said above, unless annie has flash she has no way of getting near vel'koz. Basically going {{item:3802}} into {{item:3672}} into {{item:3116}} then finish boots if needed, get {{item:3211}} after this probs best to finish morello, maybe get a needlessly large rod afterwards and then finish banshee or wait with the rod and go for banshees first. Even with this you still risk getting 1-shot before you reach banshees, but only if annie buys full AP and is getting enough kills/money from somewhere, in which case she will be squishy and you can punish her when her flash is down.
Thank you, I'll keep all that in mide and try it again at a later date. I'm still learning new things as I'm still classed as a "newb" on this game, but I'm starting to feel a comfortable stride now. Just need to perfect rune pages (Which I only have 2 atm, need points for more) and getting used to masteries. Gear is something I need to really learn and I know I'm doing bad at it XD
: > [{quoted}](name=BubbleButterz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AtPQLtAj,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-09T18:47:21.885+0000) > > You worked in many retail and business jobs, and yet you're struggling to understand the basics of MMR. YOU get matched with people around the same SKILL level as yourself. Meaning, if you're put with terrible players, that means you're a terrible player as well. If you were a good player (Like you are making yourself out too be), then you'd be put with the half decent players as well. > > Maybe you are playing with people who are still learning the game, due too only just joining because they've been invited by friends or have seen it and thought it was good. In my past 20 games, I've won half of them and only just lost the other half, and so I get put with decent players who kinda know what they are doing. If you are a god among men with your League of Legend skills, then how come you are Bronze 5? The LOWEST rank possible in league? > > Granted, I am only bronze 3, but the last ranked game I played was about 4-5 months ago, and since then my skills have improved a lot due to me playing a LOT of bot games to learn to CS properly, control lane, position properly and have better map awareness. > > Don't blame the rest of your team for your own incompitence, the only peson's mistakes you need to worry about are your own, and I'm betting you make a LOT. am not talking MMR atm am talking about how to run a business, you have to look at the bigger peicture here to see were the problem all started
Plus, from the look of all your latest games, you need to work on your item building as you seem to be getting items completely wrong on most of your champs. Pick 1-2 champs per lane to learn on, do some massive research into what items they use, what masteries and what runes, and learn from there.
: Buying defensive items, especially when you are winning, is the best way to ensure you keep winning because the only way the enemy outdamages you is when you are dead. A {{item:3102}} would have gone a long way.
Yeah, I realise my mistake I made now. It wasn't that she was overpowered, it was because I was too cocky and didn't go for anything defensive lol. I'll remember that now, as I'm still learning everything XD
: > [{quoted}](name=BubbleButterz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AtPQLtAj,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-09T18:47:21.885+0000) > > You worked in many retail and business jobs, and yet you're struggling to understand the basics of MMR. YOU get matched with people around the same SKILL level as yourself. Meaning, if you're put with terrible players, that means you're a terrible player as well. If you were a good player (Like you are making yourself out too be), then you'd be put with the half decent players as well. > > Maybe you are playing with people who are still learning the game, due too only just joining because they've been invited by friends or have seen it and thought it was good. In my past 20 games, I've won half of them and only just lost the other half, and so I get put with decent players who kinda know what they are doing. If you are a god among men with your League of Legend skills, then how come you are Bronze 5? The LOWEST rank possible in league? > > Granted, I am only bronze 3, but the last ranked game I played was about 4-5 months ago, and since then my skills have improved a lot due to me playing a LOT of bot games to learn to CS properly, control lane, position properly and have better map awareness. > > Don't blame the rest of your team for your own incompitence, the only peson's mistakes you need to worry about are your own, and I'm betting you make a LOT. am not talking MMR atm am talking about how to run a business, you have to look at the bigger peicture here to see were the problem all started
But you are saying that the MMR needs to be changed, which is what the matchmaking is. You are saying the game is "ruined" due to bad matchmaking, but you wouldn't be matched with so many "new" players if you had skill yourself. Granted, people can have bad games. My last game I played was a bad game for me, but that was due to my mistakes, no one elses. In every game you've played, have you dominated your lane? Or ganked successfully as a jungler? Or supported your team as best you could? Probably not. Everyone makes mistakes in games, it doesn't mean they have 0 skill (Even though some people could have 0 skill as they are new to the game)
: You had {{item:1033}} ?
I was playing Vel'koz, andI had the magic resistance boots and a zhonya (I didn't scale too much MR because I was winning, so didn't think I had too. And when it came to it, I had just given up and just tried my best to push back instead).
: > [{quoted}](name=Alberto Rengifo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AtPQLtAj,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-09T18:36:38.907+0000) > > want to rephrase this, so it makes sense? > > I guess youre disagreeing? Well, youre literally bronze 5. Riot estimates the average unranked player to be around silver 5 in terms of skill, thats why thats your MMR when you do your first placements. Youre one of the worst players possible. Why should you get teammates who are good at the game? Love seeing all the people who are up Riot ass and just think everything they do is right/fine when it not. I have worked in meney business and retail jobs. And what I have found is that Riot staff are the woresed and that they have no idea what they are doing or how a business should be run to be successful
You worked in many retail and business jobs, and yet you're struggling to understand the basics of MMR. YOU get matched with people around the same SKILL level as yourself. Meaning, if you're put with terrible players, that means you're a terrible player as well. If you were a good player (Like you are making yourself out too be), then you'd be put with the half decent players as well. Maybe you are playing with people who are still learning the game, due too only just joining because they've been invited by friends or have seen it and thought it was good. In my past 20 games, I've won half of them and only just lost the other half, and so I get put with decent players who kinda know what they are doing. If you are a god among men with your League of Legend skills, then how come you are Bronze 5? The LOWEST rank possible in league? Granted, I am only bronze 3, but the last ranked game I played was about 4-5 months ago, and since then my skills have improved a lot due to me playing a LOT of bot games to learn to CS properly, control lane, position properly and have better map awareness. Don't blame the rest of your team for your own incompitence, the only peson's mistakes you need to worry about are your own, and I'm betting you make a LOT.
: I don't think Annie needs a nerf - she needs a rework. She's completely 'feast or famine', as Riot say. Either she bursts you down or she dies. It's also very frustrating to play against when she flashes in, stun ult then Q and W. There's very little actual counter play to this, other than build health/magic resistance and hope you can survive. Banshees can be useful, but it's quite easy to pop the shield and then later do an all in combo. However, without flash she's kind of useless because she has no mobility. If her all in combo doesn't kill you, then she's probably dead too because she can't escape and until everything comes off CD she can't do any more damage either.
And this is what it was like at the start, But no matter how much CS ahead I was (+30 cs by 15 mins) and I had 5/2/2 whilst she had 2/5/1, she started kirb stomping me completely. I completely lost my lane cause the second I tried fighting her, I was dead. She even did it whilst I tried to stay under tower, and when I died she only took 1 turret shot before escaping solo killing me. Winning lane and getting more kills and more CS must mean nothing if that's possible.
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Wex0r (EUW)
: that sucks you should open a ticket with support maybe they can help .
Think I've figured out the not saving part of things, but it just shows another bug instead. What's happening is it's taking some runes I've brought, and when I go and buy more of them and try to put them on my page, the runes I'm actually putting in I apparently don't actually own, so it's unable to save it. But then that means I'm wasting even more IP by rebuying them all. I'll live with it
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