: Please use your brain before you type.
You should only write something like that when you do it yourself.
: Admission of guilt is worth more than proof. If someone admit they do it you do not need proofs. Is very simple.
It's not. Proof is always worth more than admission. Think about a murderer, you saw him and now he wants you to go to the police and confess that you do it. Otherwise, he'll kill you too. Sometimes, people give in to something like that. Something like that won't be the case when it comes down to your example, but in the internet people tend to claim false things. Shocking, isn't it?
NiceFAIL (EUW)
: That's sucha well thought and well structured post. I'm nost used to see something like this in these forums {{sticker:galio-happy}}
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that kind of reply, since that's not something you see often on these boards either {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
MssFortune (EUNE)
: FIX YOUR GAME RIOT.
That's most likely not riots fault though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T10:11:49.978+0000) > > Based on the way he writes <- I mean this <- yes, he is. I think I've dealt with him on other accounts before, and he's... Special, to say the least. Ahh, more labels, you understand that the person you are talking to never talked to me, he only talks about me? I have dealt with people like you all my life and that is partly why I am who I am. If I were allowed to live a normal life without people like you telling others what I am and what Im doing I might have had a more normal life. Now I spend about 30 min of my day defending myself agaisnt lies and allegations <- Yes, ~30 min each and every day I have to do this becuase people like you loves to talk about me... thing is and that you dont understnad: Noone talks about you, noone slanders you... so what justification do you have for doing and behaving this way towards me?
> Ahh, more labels, you understand that the person you are talking to never talked to me, he only talks about me? I'm speaking about me, not Denagor Sheelan. And I've talked to you on several occasions, even when you try to deny it. But that doesn't really matter anyway. > I have dealt with people like you all my life and that is partly why I am who I am. If I were allowed to live a normal life without people like you telling others what I am and what Im doing I might have had a more normal life. Well then stop being so obnoxious and stop caring what other people think about you. But you know, when the vast majority has the same perception about you, maybe that perception is right? > Now I spend about 30 min of my day defending myself agaisnt lies and allegations <- Yes, ~30 min each and every day I have to do this becuase people like you loves to talk about me... thing is and that you dont understnad: Noone talks about you, noone slanders you... so what justification do you have for doing and behaving this way towards me? It's just that you care about it. Why do you care about two people making fun, even if it's about you? You will never see us, it will never affect us or you, but you chose to let it affect you. The thing you don't seem to understand: Every board user seems to disagree with you. But you don't grasp it, instead you start to 'argument' against everyone else with delusional opinions, which make you seem like a clown. People don't just label you here because you are you. People label and react to you because you behave in a certain way. Your own behavior is the only reason why you have to 'defend' yourself here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T10:48:42.763+0000) > > Lmao I think that could actually turn out really good OFc you would believe that, you dont think there is a police on the internet.
Because there isn't. You've just linked a site which ultimately leads you to your local police.
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T09:54:00.438+0000) > > There is no such thing as an 'internet police' A simple googling told me that you were not only wrong, you are in fact lying. This was the first result of that search: https://www.europol.europa.eu/report-a-crime/report-cybercrime-online <- Im not promoting this hopeage, Im simply proving that a comment aimed at me with lies were in fact lies. IM strongly against spreading of #fakenews and lies.
Well, maybe you should have taken two more minutes to make some more research. This is no 'internet police', it's a simple website which links to the different offers of your local police department, regarding cyber bullying. That's the normal police. > IM strongly against spreading of #fakenews and lies. Well maybe you should't do it than?
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=00050000000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-16T09:53:33.480+0000) > > All Umbral Regent meant is, that private messages are not moderated. RIOT doesn't look into your private chats, and is not allowed to do so (they'd be allowed, I just think they had to change something in their Terms of Usage / Agreement). This means that anything written in those private chats is on your own responsibility. That's possible, because both players **chose to accept each other as a 'friend'**. This does not mean that both persons consider each other friends, but more like contacts. You both chose to be able to write with each other. > > However, this does not mean that you agree with the stuff the other person writes in those chats. And once again, your options in this case are as follows: > > 1. You talk to the person > 2. You delete them from your friendlist > 3. You report them to the police > > Yes, you can do it. You can also go to the next grocery store and steal something. However if you do, some people might report you to the police. Especially for stuff like hacking or something similar. Thing is, you, as the offended one, **agreed to have contact with said person.** If you feel like they commit crimes against you or others, and you want to have nothing to do with it, you have the same options again: > > 1. You talk to the person > 2. You delete them from your friendlist > 3. You report them to the police Yes but here is where it gets tricky, yes I did agree to communicate with that person, but I did not agree to get death threats not being mistreated etc. Just like I dont agree nor accept people mistreating me in general. So why would riot have such flawed system and who can I talk to about this? Because its one of the most f-ed up thing I heard about riot games throughout history! This beats the time Marc Merrill got his account boosted while banning people who boosting accounts <-
It's not tricky at all. It is known that RIOT does not moderate chats. There's nothing hidious about that, nor is it something dramatic. Ofc you didn't agree to receive threats, but one never agrees to such things. RIOT is not responsible what happens between two individuals in private. Live with it. There's nothing flawed about it, it's goddamn normal. > and who can I talk to about this? Noone because it won't change and it doesn't need to change.
: Thank you RIOT
You're the worst troll I've seen today
RareshuTzu (EUNE)
: I honestly don't agree with the mute I received
Here are my thoughts on your reasons why you disagree with your penalty: > 1) There is a language filter so why get muted over curse words? Because RIOT wants to get rid of cursing / toxic behavior as a whole. It's their game, and they want to achieve a "clean" environment in their game. It's just a decision they made, and there's no way to change that. Fun fact: Almost all other online games punish cursing too, it's really standard and mostly expected from customers/consumers. > 2) Standing up for yourself shouldn't be punished. You weren't standing up or defending yourself, you were shooting back - and that's not a way to deal with flaming people, since it will only make it worse. Asking them to stop would be defending - if they don't listen it's better to mute them and don't answer them at all. Talking back will only drag your and the other persons attention from the game. > 3) In 3 out of 5 games people start flaming if they are not winning, so why isn't the mute system working? Just because you encounter people flaming doesn't mean that the punishment system isn't working. You experienced it yourself, you can't write anymore, so you can't flame. In addition, the next time you'll get punished it's going to be a 25 game restriction, and after this comes a 14 day suspension, followed by a permanent suspension if you don't change your behavior. > 4) Inb4 "too much chatting", why not remove it completely and add an improved pinging system? I don't see the option to turn off the chat That's what RIOT did last (?) year. They gave us the option to completely disable the chat, while giving us improved pinging, for example the "enemies have vision here" ping. So we've got "enemy is missing", "I need help", "I'm going there", "danger", "standard ping" and "enemies have vision here". What else would you like, if I may ask? > 5) Leaving verbal abuse aside, restricting a player's communications capabilities only hurts the team. Pings are limited, chat is limited too. League doesn't reward passive play, in my knowledge. In my experience, it doesn't. I've seen like 5 people using the chat to communicate regarding the game in like the last 3 months. It can work, it is intended to be used like that, but it's up to the people to use it like that. And sadly, I don't see it being used like that that often. It's mainly used for some "general" communication, like banter, shittalking, saying stuff like gg, wp, gj, lol, ????, and all that kind of stuff. And for me, that's totally fine. I've made some nice friends through the chat. Keep in mind, that's all from my experience :)
RareshuTzu (EUNE)
: Would you mind guiding me where that option is? I only have Enable Language filter, Warn Me When I Click A Link In Chat , Display "More Unread" Bar or Show Me New Friend Request Toasts.
When you're in options, go to "In-Game" -> Interface -> Scroll down to "Chat"-Section and there you have both Allied- and All-chat. Remove both checkboxes and it's completely gone. PS: I'll comment on your major post in an own comment section.
: I want a reality show based on his life I'd actually pay money for this
Lmao I think that could actually turn out really good
: Games are to short, and champions deals to much damage.
> also topping it off with huge Assassin buffs Where exactly was that huge assassin buff? It honestly bugs me that everytime I see a thread like this, literally everyone is like "everyone oneshots everyone" yet that's not at all the thing I experience in my games. Meaning both mine and your perceptions are just personal experiences, opinions. I'm still waiting for the post which shows that there's too much damage with an actual argument, statistics, and numbers - and not just an opinion. > This season went from 30-40 mins games to 15 min surrenders about 70% of the time. This for example is just.. off. Current average game time is at 28 minutes, across all ranks and with surrenders factored in. Source: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations The shortest average game time which was documented was in Season 7, with 28 minutes. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7blqrv/722_has_shortest_game_length_in_recorded_history/ This post also states that before season 5, games were a lot quicker. But since there's literally no data available, we can't analyse this at all. Sadly, there's no way to lay hands on valid average game length numbers, since they don't get stored anywhere. > But it's only cause they got higher armor/HP stats than every other adc. Give all other adcs those stats and MF and Alphelios won't be bonkers broken anymore. Did you even take a look into the numbers? Aphelios starts with 500 HP and 28 Armor. Let's look at some other marksmen: * Ezreal: 500HP, 22 Armor... Oh, that's really a lot less. * Xayah: 561HP, 25 Armor... Wait, that's not bad! * Kai'Sa: 571HP, 28 Armor... Oh. Well... * Jinx: 581HP, 28 Armor... Do I even need to say something? If we look at a classic assassin, for example Talon, we see, that his numbers are **slightly** higher. 588HP and 30 Armor. But we need to take into consideration that Talon's a melee, while marksmen are ranged. Your 'solution' is to nerf lethality. But that doesn't serve the purpose at all. Who uses Lethality? Champs like Talon, Rengar, Zed or Qiyana. According to champion.gg, those are their winrates: * Talon 49,68% * Rengar 50,05% * Zed 49,93% * Qiyana 49,08% As you see, those champs aren't really causing problems. They don't "break" the game. They're not overly strong. Oneshotting people is the task of Assassins, they offer a high risk high reward playstyle, since when you're behind, you deal no damage while you offer basically no utility for your team. That's why more often than not assassins either carry a game hard, or lose it hard. There's hardly something in between. Sure you can argue that winrate is not an indicator to how well a champ is performing, but that's utter bs. How else do you measure a champs performance in terms of winning games?
: Is this the most elaborate troll ever?
Based on the way he writes <- I mean this <- yes, he is. I think I've dealt with him on other accounts before, and he's... Special, to say the least.
: Do you even know what an 'overloaded' kit is, or do you simply spam words you've seen other use without thinking? Let me give you a bit of help; Ekko's kit is overloaded, Sett's is not.
Let me add something to this comment: How on earth do you (OP) consider Setts kit as overloaded?
: > [{quoted}](name=Estrela Platina,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T08:07:52.814+0000) > > so if I tell him "contact an internet police" he will understand why I was banned from the NA boards? Becasue I dont understand this what so ever, can you please try to explain so that I understand or so that someone understands? You are very vague and that makes it really hard to understand you.
There is no such thing as an 'internet police'
: > [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=kGyYZTNc,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T08:19:45.815+0000) > > Like castiel said, riot wont do anything since its opt into and yes you can report it to the police if you want. > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/1Js7IHfM-apparently-riot-doesnt-ban-zero-tolerance-toxicity-in-private-chat#comment-0002 little older post about it. Im a bit confused. is it the comment of DrCyanide or Umbral Regent I should read and try to understand... Becuase it doesnt really make sense.... if the system is made so that if I add someone as a friend, we are already supposed to be friends. <- This is really weird, it means that unless you are really fast to make friends, like you can become friends with someone (sober) within playing with that person for 30min, you should never add anyone nor accept friend requests from anyone. I have spent years with people without being able to call them friends, I work wiht people and dont call them friends... and heck, I dont accept the behavior of my friends... I yelled at a friend just a few days ago because he was farting in my apartment, 2 steps from either outside or the toilet. Just because you are friends with someone doesnt mean you accept their behavior. I have a friend who was DUI <- I yelled at him too. I believe that is what good friends are for, to tell you that you f-ed up when you actually f-ed up. Most others will just try to ignore you when you f-up.
All Umbral Regent meant is, that private messages are not moderated. RIOT doesn't look into your private chats, and is not allowed to do so (they'd be allowed, I just think they had to change something in their Terms of Usage / Agreement). This means that anything written in those private chats is on your own responsibility. That's possible, because both players **chose to accept each other as a 'friend'**. This does not mean that both persons consider each other friends, but more like contacts. You both chose to be able to write with each other. However, this does not mean that you agree with the stuff the other person writes in those chats. And once again, your options in this case are as follows: 1. You talk to the person 2. You delete them from your friendlist 3. You report them to the police > So if I were to send out a friend request and someone accept it, I can go on to comit crimes against that person? Like death threats, hacking, doxing, slander etc etc etc? <- I doubt this very much. Is there an article about tihs or how do you know about this? Yes, you can do it. You can also go to the next grocery store and steal something. However if you do, some people might report you to the police. Especially for stuff like hacking or something similar. Thing is, you, as the offended one, **agreed to have contact with said person.** If you feel like they commit crimes against you or others, and you want to have nothing to do with it, you have the same options again: 1. You talk to the person 2. You delete them from your friendlist 3. You report them to the police
Pixelbits (EUW)
: Riot, could you please turn the stats for all champions down a notch?
I honestly don't have a problem with 'one shot legends' mainly because I don't really see it happening in my games. So honestly I can't really see where this "damage power creep" should have come from. It's not like riot increased all stats through the years, at least I don't think so. So what really is the cause, why are so many people claiming "there's too much damage"? I don't think it's because of simple stats, maybe percentages which come through buffs or whatever? I honestly don't get it - but I'd like to understand and even **see** it. Do you have any sources or thoughts on why this is happening? And I don't mean that in your games only oneshots happen, because that's nothing which confirms it for me - since I only see otherwise.
: Being attacked by very aggressive person in private message
Honestly there's not much you can or better should do. You can't really report him to RIOT, since they take no responsibility to what happens in private chats. That's because a private chat happens on consent, since both users need to accept each other as friends. The only thing you can do game-wise is remove him from your friend list when you feel uncomfortable with his threats (or even block him). The only thing you could do is to go to your local police department and report the case there. The police often takes threats over the internet a lot more serious than a couple of years before. But still, I wouldn't do it. It only means a lot of work for you with very little outcome, maybe even no outcome at all. If you really feel threatened and afraid, do it. But I'm 99% sure that no real harm will be going out from the mentioned player.
: And also same sequence happened again, Nunu gets fed, I fall behind, they get control of dragon, he solo's herald. Nunu oppresses toplaner with Herald and I cant answer because im 3-4 levels behind this cuck. Mind my language, im really just sick and tired of jungle meta, tanks, mages and adc's in their current state
I see that, that's why I'm really recommending you to take a break. Your current mindset can't be good for you.
: Yea yeah, I have been jungle main since s4, the jungle in its current state has to be the least favorite so far. Meta is %%%%ed up, mages highly biased in every way. As long time bruiser jungler (Udyr OTP) ive gotten so tired of seing same champs being played over and over and over again, its so stale and disgusting.
Maybe you should take a break man. You're playing league for a really long time - longer than any other game I suppose. It's only natural that it will get boring / stale at some point. Other people are enjoying the game: Me for example. I like current balancing, Meta and the only thing I feel which is a bit odd lately is the current exp distribution. I did really good in jungle in the preseason, but I need to play more to really comment on how it really feels. All I'm saying: Maybe take a break. It may improve your perception of the game right now or let you see that you don't 'need' league anymore.
: It doesn't have anything to do with this. Damage is too high overall. The game can be closed faster even if damage is lower, because there are other game mechanics that can be adapted to manage that. For example towers can have lower hp or shields can be removed. I just hate the meta in which everything oneshots everything. I don't enjoy this fiesta. It isn't something normal people should play. Damage meta was bad enough but what we have now is like a super damage meta. Every single champion is annoying because it does more damage than is normal. For example in season 5 I had to lower the hp of the enemy during the laning phase to even think about killing him. I had to calculate the damage and if he is in my ignite range of damage then I can go for the kill. Now I am just jumping at the guy with full hp and deleting him if he doesn't flash.
Okay than. Sorry, but that's not how it is right now at all, at least not in the games that I'm in. But it feels like we won't get to anything in this discussion, so it's kinda worthless to continue. Hope you'll find fun in league or any other game - take care and have a good year {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: > I feel like you don't understand jungle at all. Respawning Herald is a pretty good objective, but if your enemy jungler takes it, you can take the dragon. Cross map playing, pathing, all aspects of jungling. Usually by the time enemy jungler gets herald their team already has full control of the dragons Like I said the herald is used atm as tool for the fed jungler to oppres the camped lane even more. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Henky (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Av7wKdM5,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2020-01-14T08:25:37.476+0000) > > Did you play in the last couple of days? Pretty uneven matches lately. But overall I've got nothing against it, I just consider it worse than league. ha i quitted it because its "dead" they lost so much players ^^ last games i really played was 2018, 2019 just for fun with friends sometimes
Feel you. Never played without friends anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me that much ^^
Croffins (EUW)
: Uhhh, you talk a lot about winrates, i'm talking about in game experience, i don't know why the general stats work like that, assuming that they are correctly gathered, i just see champions, not fed champions, or even behind champions, completely annihilating you. Yes, akali usually doesn't tower dive alone, wanna know why? Because once she hits 6 she usually kills you so fast you don't even manage to walk to tower. There is a meta in MOBAs ok, but i don't think that some champions should represent the 100% of the pickrate, while some others aren't even played at all, what's the point of having 150 champions, if you only can play like 40? (I'm making random numbers here) Also what's the point of creating new champions if you already can't manage what is in your hands right now? Meta exists, it is a fact, and play out of meta is harder, ok, but here the situation is different, offmeta picks most of the times are not harder, they're just straight up free lose, and you get considered a troll just for not sticking to the meta, and i'm not talking about exotic strats like idk evelynn adc or random shit, i'm talking about champions who don't even appear in the role they were meant to cover. Last time i saw a trundle top? When they added sanguine blade because trick2g fans were emulating him, before that? Was trundle even played in s9 soloQ at all? Mundo? Mundo is a toplaner but he gets destroyed so hard in that lane that no one plays him, and for good reasons, he turned out to be an ok jungler tho so we saw him a lot jgl for a short period, and now he's gone. Wanna come to copy and paste some numbers into my face when i'm talking about real in game experience? Ok let's assume i'm wrong here, then i'm simply unlucky to get every single enemy akali who is too good to play in my elo and goes 12/3, or katarina snowballing. Their winrate might be average or even low, maybe they can't carry their team, but i can assure most of the times champions like those get an advantage so huge that if their team wasn't so behind it would be impossible to achieve something, and sometimes it still is.
Well I think it's a definition of the term broken than. Because honestly, a champ being unfun to play against and a champ being effective are two completely different topics. You and many other people complaining about broken champs do it because some champs can feel unfair to play against. I'll make an example with assassins: A Rengar who is snowballing will oneshot squishies all game long, making it feel really unfair for the squishy. But what did the Rengar have to do to get to that point? He had to build up a lead, he has to hope that the squishies proceed to build damage instead of defensive items, and he has to pick the right time to assassinate someone. Mostly, **there is counterplay to broken champions**. Many people are just unable to deal with them. That results in spite and anger, since you always lose to some certain champs because you don't know how to deal with them. There were examples of obnoxious champs in the past - like Talon and LeBlanc with a silence. They engaged, silenced you and deleted you while you where able to press literally nothing, even when they were even since the silence was like 2 seconds, more than enough time for an assassin. Now, if you see for example Rengar, you can always flash his leap. HIs initial auto and q dmg will go through, but that will mostly never be enough to kill someone. > offmeta picks most of the times are not harder, they're just straight up free lose Not at all. There are many examples of people who see a lot off success with the most absurd strategies, like full ao cho gath mid. The most hilarious I've seen so far: A grandmaster Teemo jungle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTGYhajSK-I Meta is made up by players and how the players use the tools they're given by riot. Riot has nothing to do with meta, they just give us tools which we can use. We have to think about how we use them. And honestly, in low elo (I'd say everything until Dia) everything works. We just enslave us with strategies which pros play. > i can assure most of the times champions like those get an advantage so huge that if their team wasn't so behind it would be impossible to achieve something, and sometimes it still is That would mean that those champs always get a huge lead, but there team is so far behind that they can not carry. So a champ with let's say 100k games a day always gets held down by it's own team? That would be really unlikely and reeeaaally really random. The matter is in the assassin class itself: Assassins are mostly either carrying, or completely behind. And that's the reason why they get so much attention. It's really unlikely that an assassim will go out of a game with stats like 3/3/5 - at least in a standard game. High risk, high reward. And I don't see how you'd change assassins to change that fact. EDIT: I hope you'll understand what I mean. I'm a bit in a hurry, so I can't explain myself as much as I want to. But I think you're someone who's up for an honest and reasonable discussion.
: Ocean soul on tank matchups, broken Wind soul on assasin team, broken Fire soul on adc/AP heavy team, broken Only balanced soul ive seen so far has been mountain which only brings slight defensive utility, rest on the other hand are just bollocks to face. Herald tbh shouldnt be so easy to solo, remove the eye mechanic so the toplane would get some action aswell. Also 1 herald is enough, just make it a proper objective instead of lane oppressor tool used by the fed jungler, who bullied and camped your lane, now you lost your turret and enemy laner earned 630 free gold. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
> Ocean soul on tank matchups, broken Wind soul on assasin team, broken Fire soul on adc/AP heavy team, broken Ocean drakes are only really strong to broken with specific team comps / champs which you can't influence. You can't pick Singed and go for the strategy "I'll go for ocean dragon soul", since you got no influence at all. But I'd say that elemental drakes shouldn't be there like that at all, since it's rng and thus not really healthy for the game. I could imagine 4 "different" maps though, each with exactly one element - which get's preset in champ select (could be rng which map it will be). That way you could prepare yourself and your team a lot better. But still, those dragon souls are only a lategame-tool, or at least they should be, since you shouldn't let the enemy team have all drakes. But yeah, if you just ignore dragons all game long, the team which got the dragons will have an easy win. > Herald tbh shouldnt be so easy to solo, remove the eye mechanic so the toplane would get some action aswell It's easy to solo, even without the eye mechanic. That thing does no damage, and that's the reason why it's easy to take. Without the eye mechanic, it would take ages to take that thing, and nobody would be able to get it, because even after an ace the enemies would be able to respawn and contest again before you are able to take that damn thing. > Also 1 herald is enough, just make it a proper objective instead of lane oppressor tool used by the fed jungler, who bullied and camped your lane, now you lost your turret and enemy laner earned 630 free gold I feel like you don't understand jungle at all. Respawning Herald is a pretty good objective, but if your enemy jungler takes it, you can take the dragon. Cross map playing, pathing, all aspects of jungling.
IWANTIN (EUW)
: what? ... ahhahahaha no hahahahah does paid trolls now got their own panel about these stuff ?... hahaha pls get real guys.. no1 needs multiple accounts to make you understand that this game is not in the most balanced state!!!! jeez i got 1000 accounts that i ll now go in them and make this poll 1000 to 2: ) ... ahhahaha u 2 paid trolls should just go on other posts and make other peoples sentenses disected and proven by your holy answers.... im done with this ... u cant even answer or make posts without bein accused of something ... and u cant sit 10 mins without paid trolls hovering above your head.... SO IM DONE... U ARE TOTALY RIGHT I WAS WRONG IM SORRY THAT I BOTHER YOU WITH MY SUPERSITIOUS BELIEFS THAT THIS GAME IS UNBALANCED... SORRY TO BOTHER THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND OTHERS THAT I CANT NAME OF.... YOU ARE TOTALY RIGHT THIS GAME... OW THIS 1... IS IN PERFECT CONDITION MORE THAN ANY YEAR BEFORE IT ... I WAS WRONG.. U 2 GUYS ARE SUPER RIGHT AND IM SORRY!!! PEACE this is the account u are refering to ... and this is the main account i created just for this season .. and it got google remembering its password... i dont even have any other account but this and trick me u ll die.... and lets see how many votes i can do with only 2 accounts...
I've never stated that I was right, now did I deny that you are wrong. You've got the opinion that League is unbalanced, I've got the opinion that it isn't. That's it. No facts, no hard feelings. Just two opinions. My issue is that you try to sell your opinion as a fact, without having any proof at all. You never brought up arguments, not a single time. And that's just not how a discussion works.
Croffins (EUW)
: You got like the worst champions poppin out of nowhere and killing you without counterplay, towers don't even matter to them because you die so fast you that not you or your tower can react in time (see qiyana akali just to show some examples), the 4th rework ryze still broken and cassio being a gatling gun etc etc, the same champions picked OVER AND OVER while there is like a good 70% of the entire pool played only by onetrick because if you pick offmeta you LOSE AUTOMATICALLY IN CHAMP SELECT, dragons souls being broken af and always going without contest to some team because the other is so behind they can't even get close to the fkin drake pit. Does this seem balanced to you?
> You got like the worst champions poppin out of nowhere and killing you without counterplay Can you give me an example of a champ like that? Because right now, most have a lot of counterplay. Akali is quite weak right now and not really a candidate who will towerdive you when she is alone and not ahead. Akalis winrate is at 48% in plat+, while it goes down to 41% in masters+. That seems unbalanced to me, but not in the "too strong" direction. Qiyana on the other hand is quite balanced (allthoug she wont towerdive you either). Ryze is a mess right now. His wr in plat+ is at 43%, with a pick rate of 8%. Yeah... completely broken, way too much damage. If you mean broken in terms of either too weak or too strong, I agree. But that's honestly just ryze, his whole concept is just a nightmare to balance and should be reworked entirely, with a whole new kit. > the same champions picked OVER AND OVER It's always been like that, since in MOBAs, you have a meta. And there's no way around that. Or do you have a solution to get rid of meta?
: - to be honest - I think the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in!!
A poll like this will proof literally nothing, since it's not representitive. Leagues playerbase is way too big to proof the current situation of balancing with a poll with 30 answers at most. Gather something like 5000 answers, and you'll have a good and representitive statement.
IWANTIN (EUW)
: no... and i just poll it so people thinkin like you should vote ... that sentence is not my opinion... its an opinion of someone really thinks it.. and he/she wants me to prove that this game is unlbalanced: ).. weird ask right? : ) ...
> no... and i just poll it so people thinkin like you should vote ... that sentence is not my opinion... its an opinion of someone really thinks it.. and he/she wants me to prove that this game is unlbalanced: ).. weird ask right? : ) ... You just showed yourself on another account, which didn't create the post. So basically you're logging into as many accounts as you can to get as many votes on the answer you'd like. You are pathetic dude.
: i dont care why a cat is a cat or a towel is a towel.... or i check if a cat is still a cat.... i dont need to check if "the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in." it IS NOT BROOOO...... maybe u just need to copy paste ur comment to other posts and take the answers and go from there? or go into the 100s of streams .. any 1 of them.. and ask ANY streamer or high or low elo ... or just stand up and ask the first person u see if lol is in the best balance state or not ? ?? some of us is delusional and i hope that is me..... i must be delusional cuz i am tryin to tell some1 that this game is not in the most balanced state that they have ever seen it in ......... i dont say u are wrong cuz i say so .. im saying every1 is saying this and they got very good reasons behind them and i am one of them... pls make a poll about "the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in" ... pls do this ... and if u are right i ll strip down, get my self my wifes skirt and take my 2 dogs to the park for 30 mins and i ll video it and post it on boards....
> im saying every1 is saying this and they got very good reasons behind them and i am one of them Your only reason is "other people who say so". That's not a fact or a proof, that is an opinion from one or a couple of other players.
: my final words on this issue: post is about this game is unbalanced thats fact 1 u said "the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in" thats fact 2 i said it is not fact 3 u said prove it fact 4 i said i dont need to thats common to think like me thats fact 5 u are still try to disect the sentences and make this conversation go elsewhere and u are saying provide the facts ... thats fact 6 i am saying pls u prove that this game is in the most balanced state or just accept that it isnt ... peace out ... if u can stop for a sec and look at the big picture u ll understand... maybe u already did but its not fun for u to accept it .... TL:DR this game ISNT in the most balanced state right now ... i dont have any proof i only got humour and sempathy towards you for saying that troll sentence... and i should not need any ... if needed you should have ... cuz your opinion is wrong imo.. and u are not tryin to convince me .. u are tryin to diss me .... bye..
You are completely neglecting the whole discussion at this point. OP stated his opinion - that the game is unbalanced. He did not give any sources, he didn't even explain why he's making that statement. Bananenschnder asked for sources, and because OP just made a statement, he is in need to present sources. All other points you listed are just "facts" of who wrote what, which don't prove who's right at all.
: im watching lpl right now .. the new champ aphelios just got all his hp back from %20 to %100 in 3 sec WITHOUT using any ANY lifesteal items... this is much more than even mundo or ekko ult.. and faster ... nothing just super stand out op ? ? ? ? ? senna , diana , kassadin , aphelios, i can go on like 20 more.... lack of really op champ ? :) ... average game time is half from 2 years ago.. team fight times are less than that ..... so ye.. this guy is right.. and to post an answer like u my friend is considered trolling or beein a paid boarder for riot imo....
> average game time is half from 2 years ago That's just false facts. Gametime is lower, but a lot less like you state. Game length right now is at around 28 minutes across all ranks (+ unranked) Source: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/de/rankings/game-durations According to several posts, game length in season 7 was at around 28 minutes too (data for old average game length is hard to get). https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7blqrv/722_has_shortest_game_length_in_recorded_history/ LIke I said, it's really hard to get on data regarding the average game length, but it has mostly been around 30 minutes, i recall in the earlier stages of the game the average could even be 35 minutes. But even if we take that (and it would be roughly before 7+ years) todays game time would be only 20% less, which isn't that huge when you take the 7+ year difference into consideration (+ its nowhere near like the 50% you state)
: > [{quoted}](name=TrickMeOrUllDie,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZjJEusk9,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2020-01-14T10:52:34.446+0000) > > but u cant spend a little time to check the fact that this game is in an unbalanced state much more than recent years Okay, kind Sir, where do I "check this fact"? If you have any objective proof I can check, I'll gladly take a look. But from all you have said so far, I'm pretty sure you don't have any objective facts and your argument relies entirely in saying "You are wrong because I say so".
I really want to see those sources too, would be really interesting. But I can't see, where those sources would come from.
: even funnier when a 4 year veteran says " I think the game is in the most balanced state I've ever seen it in" even more funnier when its the season start and even the matchmaking is so unbalanced right now u can see at least 30 post from only yesterday about unbalance..... even funnier when this post is about the general balance issues .. and u are only talking about champ balance not even touching other balance issues... much more funnier when a probably paid troller got another troller to disect the post and answer sentense by sentense to just to say no its not it .. but u all loosing the bigger picture while doin it ... so the conversations never resolves cuz people like u cant and never wanna look at the other side or take them as a truth speaker at least for their own perspective but to look at the sentence and try to find openings and answers that u ll be right when you say it.. but all those writings wont change the fact that we are talking about this games balance and it is unbalanced right now .... if it were like u said there ll be lesser posts about it .. or only the low elos cringe about it lack of game knowledge like low elo yi :) .... so yes its funny when a guy / girl says its in the best state right now .... its funnier when u saying u played this game for 4 years.... opinions change always... but facts kinda sticks... and there are no words in the vocabulary to use to make it false... so pls change your opinion about the current state is the most balanced.... its not .. .ask rioteers .. its not.. ask high elo.. its not.. low elo ? .. theyll always say its not.... pro players and stream... they ll say it is not... at least not this year... not the most balanced... change it and accept it and love it .. but not hate it and post things that it is ... its embarrassing ...
Well, I played it for 7-8 years, and I say so too. Only thing which seems "too strong" is elder dragon, which is alright since it's just a tool to end games which are quite long (that's a question of overall gamedesign and is another discussion). > so pls change your opinion about the current state is the most balanced.... its not .. .ask rioteers .. its not.. ask high elo.. its not.. low elo ? .. theyll always say its not.... pro players and stream... they ll say it is not... at least not this year... not the most balanced... Can you give me a source on that? Because I never heard a rioter or a high elo streamer say that the game is really unbalanced right now. EDIT: Well actually I did. Some say it is, some say it isn't. Because it doesn't come down to elo, it's about a subjective opinion.
: So is there something unhealthy for the game in saying that "damage is too high and should be lowered"? Because I think all the champions are anoying now, but with a lower damage just some champions would be anoying and the game would overall be a better experience. Many people are yelling since season 8 that the damage is too high and Riot started S10 by adding more damage and more rng. Two things that all players hate the most.
> So is there something unhealthy for the game in saying that "damage is too high and should be lowered" That't like a special case. First off: What does "damage is too high" even mean? That some champs have ratios which are too high? If that's the case, a nerf should be considered. Thing is, that the people who are saying that don't really talk about damage, rather about the overall pace of the game. It's more about the gamedesign as a whole, since 'high damage' means you die fast, while low means that you die slower. Both variants offer a different overall playstyle. You need to make different decisions when you die quickly as when everyone is 'tanky'. And that's not something which is crucial in terms of balancing, it's the whole direction in which League is going. But there's only two options: * You like it * You don't If you don't, you should stop playing. If many people do that, RIOT will eventually realise that it was the wrong direction, and change it again.
: On this Forum we have 1 Rioter that only comes here when he have a free time. I'm almost sure Hansiman don't have power to do so. And how many tickets did you send?
Hansiman and other emissaries have no contact to RIOTers, though. Plus I'm sure that you're the troll from german boards, who wanted to leave when MCC came out. But that doesn't really matter.
: League of broken mm if you are not premade or not boosting ur friend then get out!
And you've got at least three boosters each game, right?
: And why would I do that when nobody reads it from riot xd
Because even if they did, why should they listen to one single player? Your opinion may not be the only opinion one can have. Maybe your opinion is something which is really unhealthy for the game, but you just don't see it yet. Maybe your opinion is quite nice, but pretty hard to implement and not really necessary. But maybe your opinion is even really crucial for the whole game. You need to exchange opinions with other players, see what the rest of the community thinks and maybe you can "drag" someone to your side, or maybe you realise that your opinion wasn't that great at all. In addition, you might motivate some other players and **together** you may be able to actually get riot to listen.
Henky (EUW)
: cant blame heroes of the storm i liked their matchmaking. Was Rank 1 at the beginning of heroes of the storm climbing the ladder like one of the top players with like 60 games rank 1 and first season i was grandmaster. Heroes of the storm had no mmr system that was the best. Your mmr was your rank and you didnt had to do "promotions" you only had to win 1 game if you had 100 points. So much better.
Did you play in the last couple of days? Pretty uneven matches lately. But overall I've got nothing against it, I just consider it worse than league.
: > [{quoted}](name=Câstiél,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=gpE8oTRA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-10T13:17:52.766+0000) > > Mordes ult is intended to do that. Teemo shrooms, Shaco boxes, Heimer turrets, all that kind of stuff stays outside the deathrealm. You can even dodge abilities with the deathrealm, like an Ashe arrow that almost hits you. > > Changing that wouldn't be a fix, but a straight nerf. In addition, I think that it would be a nerf at the wrong ability - his passive and his overall damage is the issue which I see (didn't test him since the nerf yet though). There is no counter to mordes ult? seriously that cant be right, there must always be a counter to something
Except there is? First off, you can cleanse it with QSS, GP W, Rengar W, Olaf R and abilities like that. Second if you break line of sight while he casts it on you (or you go invincible with something like Zhonyas, Fizz E, Vlad W), you won't go into deathrealm. But he'll be able to cast it again right after, so it's mostly always better to use something with invulnerability while you're in the deathrealm. The key to "counter" it, when you've got nothing like above is to survive. Most champs won't be able to win in deathrealm, since Morde is stealing a % of your stats, but he needs to kill you to actually have those stats outside of deathrealm too.
Hajrulla (EUW)
: Uninstalled!
: doesn't excuse riot from doing a crappy job themselves. Also, Konamis matchmaking is even worse sometimes, especially in duel links
I was just refering to him saying that it's the worst match making system there was ever made. But you're right, just because someone is doing worse than you doesn't justify you doing bad. But I'm satisfied with the matchmaking, personally I've never ran into many problems.
: It has been the most Riot Games start of the season ever
> Do anything but continue to %%%% this game up with literally the worst match making system there has ever been in any game. No-one wants you to continue. I'm satisfied. Besides, have you ever played Heroes of the Storm? I'd consider their matchmaking a lot worse.
: RIOT u are great!
FPS has nothing to do with your ping. If you issue a high ping, the problem is most likely at your end.
Semaka (EUW)
: {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} You are fun man, I'll leave you to your bs stories man, I have better things to do, but you did make my day. Have a nice evening. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
> Nothing I have said is bs Even that's bs
: Won 6 out of 10. 1 i dc because of my net providers. Then I got dc in my team. Still got g4 32 LP. :)
I guess that works :) at least you already passed silver, so that's something. Have a great time ranking!
: Actually the Lp's you get tend to get lower and lower. It's even so hard to play as an ADC so there are no high chances that I would win a lot of games. xd And as I've said I really do not have much time to spend playing this game.
It's been like that forever though? And as Torpedo mentioned, G2 would be a pretty nice starting point. Climbing back to your original elo should be not really a challenge at all. > It's even so hard to play as an ADC so there are not any high chances that I would win a lot of games That has nothing to do with adcs, but rather your performance as an adc.
: Actually who has made that rank system???
Once again: After your first placement game, you'll get a rank which is quite lower than your rank you had last season. But for the remaining 9 provisional games, you'll receive 50+lp and ignore promo games if you win a game. If you lose one, you'll lose nothing.
: New season
I don't get it. What do you think will you achieve with a post like this? Do you think someone from riot will see this and be like "oh, MR Touchwood thinks those champs are too strong, let's nerf them"? If you are honestly concerned with a champion, give us (the community, since RIOT doesn't even really use the boards) constructive criticism on which we can have a discussion? And please, don't just write something like "Aphelios does too much damage" beacause statements like those show that you never really looked a little deeper into the topic. There's so much more to a champion than just his numbers.
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