JustClone (EUNE)
: I cannot speak for other support mains, but for myself the reason is this: The adc meta is bad. The idea to rely on someone who needs to know how to position himself, what to build, how to kite effectively, when NOT TO KITE, etc... is terrible. The moment you get auto-filled unskilled person, who has no clue how to trade in lane, cant last hit well and makes few mistakes early and feeds the enemy, it is over. Go shield and heal all you want. I strongly support this compilation (support like lulu, nami, janna + ADC) ... IN DIAMOND and above. I have mixed feeling when applied in plat, but still slightly towards positive. But below plat, everyone who picks ADC champ should be banned for trolling. ------------------- Now, for the second part of the problem. Why full dmg support works. 1) Gold. You get nearly the same gold as your adc. One or few kills + your gold from the support item, and you may be on top of him. And even if you have less, the scaling of some champions is terrible. You may pick zyra all you want. She will do the same dmg with 100000 gold, and with 100 gold. 2) Items. EVERYTHING gives AP/CDR/MANA and some useful passive. It is something, that is designed by challenged people. Like literally I can filter items by "ap + cdr" and start buying random shit. It will work, no matter how my end build will look like. I have ludens 99 of 100 games. Endless spam with technically NO down time... Sorc boots + Oblivion orb and you can oneshot the most fed carry. The real problem is the CDR. As long as you can get 45% cdr with 25% bonus CDR on your ult, this game will be never balanced.
> [{quoted}](name=JustClone,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0aAitGN8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-15T07:20:09.344+0000) > > > 1) Gold. You get nearly the same gold as your adc. One or few kills + your gold from the support item, and you may be on top of him. And even if you have less, the scaling of some champions is terrible. You may pick zyra all you want. She will do the same dmg with 100000 gold, and with 100 gold. > > 2) Items. EVERYTHING gives AP/CDR/MANA and some useful passive. It is something, that is designed by challenged people. Like literally I can filter items by "ap + cdr" and start buying random shit. It will work, no matter how my end build will look like. I have ludens 99 of 100 games. Endless spam with technically NO down time... Sorc boots + Oblivion orb and you can oneshot the most fed carry. > > The real problem is the CDR. > As long as you can get 45% cdr with 25% bonus CDR on your ult, this game will be never balanced. This is such a huge problem and the balance team completely doesnt care about it. A support should never come close to gold income of other lanes or his adc. Nowhere near.
KuroCorbeau (EUNE)
: Should there be extra requirements to play ranked?(1st timing Champion-Discussion)
Orvvadasz1 (EUNE)
: How does one defeat Tham Kench on top? (If you are not Quinn)
Play a tank and just ignore him. Otherwise just ban him.
PrototypeV8 (EUNE)
: Tahm Kench
All supports need to be nerfed, they are way out of line power wise
Lil ISIS (EUW)
: League is bad for my mental health
Dude adc is by far the strongest role 2 years running now but toplane is in a shitty place i agree
: After 2 years i got tyler1d again.
DOnt worry he just made a mistake no reason to ban him
: It's avoidance behavior. Players don't want to realize that they are not as good as they think they are. Whenever you lose, the opponent was simply better and that's a bitter pill to swallow. So instead of doing that, you simply give up. Because if you give up, you are not losing because you are less skilled, you are losing because you want to. This is pretty common human behavior, we do it all the time. For example in school, it's pretty common that children who struggle in a certain subject suddenly make the problem worse by stopping to study for that subject. This way they don't have to experience the feeling of trying and failing but instead have an easy way out. They failed because they wanted to fail. They decided not to study and that why they failed. Not because they are not intelligent enough. That's way easier and instead of having to realize your own flaws, you feel like you are in control. So it's not really a logical decision, it's an emotional/protective one. That's also why especially those who consider themselves highly competitive and REALLY want a high rank are the most likely to give up, although it directly contradicts their goals. Sounds paradoxical, but it absolutely makes sense. Because someone who doesn't really care too much about his rank also has no reason to avoid the realization that he is not good enough.
> [{quoted}](name=Humpelstilzche,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=jQeEE1jM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-12T16:19:01.029+0000) > > It's avoidance behavior. Players don't want to realize that they are not as good as they think they are. Whenever you lose, the opponent was simply better and that's a bitter pill to swallow. So instead of doing that, you simply give up. Because if you give up, you are not losing because you are less skilled, you are losing because you want to. > This is pretty common human behavior, we do it all the time. For example in school, it's pretty common that children who struggle in a certain subject suddenly make the problem worse by stopping to study for that subject. This way they don't have to experience the feeling of trying and failing but instead have an easy way out. They failed because they wanted to fail. They decided not to study and that why they failed. Not because they are not intelligent enough. That's way easier and instead of having to realize your own flaws, you feel like you are in control. > > So it's not really a logical decision, it's an emotional/protective one. > That's also why especially those who consider themselves highly competitive and REALLY want a high rank are the most likely to give up, although it directly contradicts their goals. Sounds paradoxical, but it absolutely makes sense. Because someone who doesn't really care too much about his rank also has no reason to avoid the realization that he is not good enough. Like most of your posts this one contains at least 50% nonsense, since in school noone else influences your grades while in league you just have to suffer through countless feeding botlanes
: change the ban system
Get used to it, riot only bans for toxic chat, never for trolling and inting
: I totally agree, at this evening I only had time for a single game, so I when I ended up hin a horrible game with multiple people flaming constantly I got a bit angry and toxic. Since I am not extremely toxic and 99% of the time I manage to not get provoked (and lucky enough not every single game has these people in it) , I only received small chat restricitions, so it's not a big deal for me. I never want to be toxic, and I am never a person to start toxicity, sincer theres is really nothing to gain from it. I think over those 9 seasons, I only got chat restricted 2-3 times, where I defended myself and once another player who got flamed and went a little overboard too, I think I maybe had 30-40 games with chat restisctions and I played ~7000 or even more games. It's just kinda sad that these people will drive nice players out of the community and give shitty game experiences to other players. I might just stick to TFT, where people can't blame anyone for their own mistakes really, which basically stops all toxicity
> [{quoted}](name=Lunnaris01,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hMBslJQF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T07:44:08.883+0000) > > I totally agree, at this evening I only had time for a single game, so I when I ended up hin a horrible game with multiple people flaming constantly I got a bit angry and toxic. > > Since I am not extremely toxic and 99% of the time I manage to not get provoked (and lucky enough not every single game has these people in it) , I only received small chat restricitions, so it's not a big deal for me. > > I never want to be toxic, and I am never a person to start toxicity, sincer theres is really nothing to gain from it. > I think over those 9 seasons, I only got chat restricted 2-3 times, where I defended myself and once another player who got flamed and went a little overboard too, I think I maybe had 30-40 games with chat restisctions and I played ~7000 or even more games. > It's just kinda sad that these people will drive nice players out of the community and give shitty game experiences to other players. > > I might just stick to TFT, where people can't blame anyone for their own mistakes really, which basically stops all toxicity The only shitty game experience is when players decide to take it into their hand by just playing like complete clowns. If you let someones words ruin your game, you deserve it.
Rioter Comments
BadboyUG (EUW)
: Poll: Should Nightblue3 get punished?
No, and the Teemo should stay banned because noone needs shit like that
: Well Yes. The best way to practice a champion is by first playing in practice tool test abilities and read how to use them, then go into Normals and Play LEAST 5 games before you can put him into ranked. But if you are too scared of playing it on your main, you shouldn't go on your smurf and ruin others games cause you feel you ain't good enough to carry yet with it. That's why Normals should be the main pratice till you can start playing on your main account. And if you are a Ranked only person, just go on your main and play the champion to your heart content, it's not like 2-3 games of testing a champion will ruin your elo climbing. It do ruin others, but in exchange of your own sacrifice.
> [{quoted}](name=The Hero Simon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yYPcEO7k,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-12T21:53:19.630+0000) > > Well Yes. The best way to practice a champion is by first playing in practice tool test abilities and read how to use them, then go into Normals and Play LEAST 5 games before you can put him into ranked. But if you are too scared of playing it on your main, you shouldn't go on your smurf and ruin others games cause you feel you ain't good enough to carry yet with it. That's why Normals should be the main pratice till you can start playing on your main account. > > And if you are a Ranked only person, just go on your main and play the champion to your heart content, it's not like 2-3 games of testing a champion will ruin your elo climbing. It do ruin others, but in exchange of your own sacrifice. You cant play normals to practise anything. You rarely get enemies close to your rank and most people are just going full troll in normals anyway.
: About the Udyr changes on PBE
Nerfing the earlygame of a not so good champ is only an idea a rioter could come up with lmao
Aritmor (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Call me Teddy,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MgrwrVvA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-10T08:25:24.590+0000) > > Here's a little something you might find surprising : > > When someone is toxic to you, you can defend yourself without also being toxic yourself Yea, because that works well and there is no breaking point when they will finally hit something that makes you mad so you become toxic.
> [{quoted}](name=Aritmor,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MgrwrVvA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-10T08:34:20.628+0000) > > Yea, because that works well and there is no breaking point when they will finally hit something that makes you mad so you become toxic. Just mute him if you actually get annoyed by someone talking shit
Smerk (EUW)
: Again? We literally never had a real soloQ. it was always a solo/duo, they just named it correctly after all those years
> [{quoted}](name=Smerk,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=x9GEbKv1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-11T14:17:30.381+0000) > > Again? We literally never had a real soloQ. it was always a solo/duo, they just named it correctly after all those years Maybe, but I never had as many duos as this season and its a miserable experience 8/10 times
: Duoq exists for the bot lane
> [{quoted}](name=Ornndyr2k19,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=x9GEbKv1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-11T13:00:53.162+0000) > > Duoq exists for the bot lane I am not saying it should not exist, I am just saying they should move it to flex
Rioter Comments
Blakex13x (EUW)
: your match making needs to be fixed.
You will always have teammates that play like shit, no matter the elo. Same goes for your own games. Riot just needs to fix the sometimes pretty huge gaps in elo across the game (500-600lp differences is not all that rare)
DutchPro (EUW)
: Yeah mages are totally the problem in top lane, not bruisers or Tahm sure sure
> [{quoted}](name=DutchPro,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=HeTGKsjU,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-06-10T14:51:52.333+0000) > > Yeah mages are totally the problem in top lane, not bruisers or Tahm sure sure In what world are bruisers a problem? Legitimately the weakest class right now.
: Mages are a problem. But Tahm Kench is ruining toplane atm.
> [{quoted}](name=Topdogg554,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=HeTGKsjU,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-06-10T16:05:01.121+0000) > > Mages are a problem. But Tahm Kench is ruining toplane atm. For me as a Trynd main, he always ruined my life :D
: NERF TAHM KENCH - REMOVE HIM FROM TOPLANE
I rather fight 10 tahms in a row than the next boring little kid playing mages toplane and getting away with it because the balance team is braindead as hell
Q Donkey Q (EUNE)
: Tahm Kench
I agree Riven and Yasuo should be nerfed
Ilovemobas (EUNE)
: Be honest when is the last time you have seen Ivern in your games?
Rioter Comments
: For a more precise solution, I'd need you to tell me *why* you tilt.
> [{quoted}](name=IM Bula Bula,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UwR7zRy2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-19T15:45:36.096+0000) > > For a more precise solution, I'd need you to tell me *why* you tilt. Well mostly other players playing bad (in my opinion) Obviously not fair, but especially junglers just hit a nerve sometimes. Other than that, I am as clueless as my therapist.
Rioter Comments
: You realise that’s not just bard right... one of the main things supports are meant to do is roam, one of the jobs of the adc is to know how to stay safe in a 1v2 which your support creates advantages for the rest of your team. The support is the support for the whole team not just the adc, they don’t have to stay glued to them and frequently it’s a good idea to roam mid to get another lane rolling especially in games where you’ve either already won bot or won’t get anything from the support being there
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=n2Ait5k4,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-19T02:32:01.286+0000) > > You realise that’s not just bard right... one of the main things supports are meant to do is roam, one of the jobs of the adc is to know how to stay safe in a 1v2 which your support creates advantages for the rest of your team. > > The support is the support for the whole team not just the adc, they don’t have to stay glued to them and frequently it’s a good idea to roam mid to get another lane rolling especially in games where you’ve either already won bot or won’t get anything from the support being there Yeah but bard players at least in my relatively low elo only run around to collect chimes and do barely anything
Rioter Comments
Salron88 (EUW)
: vayne and riven nerfs? or are they??
I really like the Riven nerf, makes her lane much more punishable since she now she gets essentially 4 instead of 6 e per minute
: Bring back Bans in ARAM
Yeah, just ban people that treat aram like an invitation to go afk because its only ARAM. Oh wait...
: How about playing into the elo you at least think you belong. I can tell you, that supports, even autofiller, will start with support items in gold elo at least.
> [{quoted}](name=Lunnaris01,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vVhs1Up6,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-05-12T00:15:02.497+0000) > > How about playing into the elo you at least think you belong. I can tell you, that supports, even autofiller, will start with support items in gold elo at least. Well the games were around silver II-gold IV, fiora with dblade, shaco with corrupting pot
: 10/10 match makinng
RIot stopped wanting you to have fun with this game years ago, they just keep the addicts
: Give us one free dodge per day/week
They are just trying new things or maybe they will have a bad game, nothing to worry about, just be happy and enjoy riots wonderful policies on ingame behaviour
: I'm gonna assume that 'ot' means 'not'. You can't be that salty that your support didn't start a shitty support item xD. Just remember you're playing in iron and nobody is smart in iron
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vVhs1Up6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-11T19:20:53.739+0000) > > I'm gonna assume that 'ot' means 'not'. > > You can't be that salty that your support didn't start a shitty support item xD. Just remember you're playing in iron and nobody is smart in iron For one, this account is placements, and second, this is mostly about autofilled guys griefing and playing something like fiora support with dblade
Rioter Comments
FroZ3NNN (EUW)
: Loot Bugs , Mission Bugs
It is RIot, dont expect to release anything without bugs They will fix it sometime and ignore you till then, like always

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