: Can u read? and before u bronze post me, actually read what the guy wrote who u replied to, then read what u wrote back, and then ask urself, who did u actually replied to
I will read what you write when you use proper English.
Wen294 (EUW)
: Not really. You're compared to the general populace of peeps playing j4. challengers only make up a tiny tiny part of that. Also it's more likely to stomp in lower elo than it is in higher elo because in low elo games are more of a clown-fiesta. You don't see many games where people get scores like 20-0 in pro play. On the other hand pro players have way higher CS count. The higher kill count of scrubs having a good game and the higher CS count pro players get kinda cancells each other out resulting in both having a fair shot at getting an S rank.
Challengers could make up 90% or 1%, I'm still being compared to them so I gotta perform to a challenger level to get an S rank.
: At the end of the day, is this what ppl care for?
Just curious as to what is taken into account when ranks are given since this felt like it should've been an S rank.
Saibbo (EUW)
: If you're not dying you are not contributing to the team!
Lol what. I had 10 assists. How is that not helping the team?
Viavarian (EUW)
: You can argue all you want, but it's not gonna change anything. If you want an S, you need to aim for 6-7 CS/min at the very least. You'll still have plenty of time for ganks.
So I've gotta get 100cs/min while ganking every lane at the same time and securing 5 kills and 15 assists per gank. Got ya.
Viavarian (EUW)
: Wrong. You need high CS, some kills and few deaths. That's all it takes for an S.
~100 CS in 20 mins is pretty reasonable for a jungler. Considering I've got a ton of other stuff to be doing too. Such as map control, ganking, counter ganking, objective control, appeasing the other 4 on my team so they don't flame and report me.
Smerk (EUW)
: Challenger players play against other challenger players, so it's not as easy as you think to get good score there. Riot did some testing before making this system and challengers didn't get much better scores than bronze players.
Sorry but that's total horse... If I'm being compared to challenger players, I've got to play at a challenger standard to get an S-Rank.
Viavarian (EUW)
: Yeah, there's no way to get an S with 3.9 CS/min, unless you are support. Even if you had a hundred kills.
So I've gotta get 100cs/min while ganking every lane at the same time and securing 5 kills and 15 assists per gank. Got ya.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChrisMac,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=AoVsjmHY,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2017-12-05T15:51:40.398+0000) > > Well, rank isn't irrelevant then. Because if I am being compared against Challenger players, of course their stats will be better so I need to play a challenger standard to get an S Rank? If you see pro games, you will see by yourself that the general k/d/a of those you play them is quite low, because these games are mostly decided by objectives and there are 0 urge to get kills.
And I had the most damage dealt to objectives in my game...
Smerk (EUW)
: all players, ranks are irrelevant. If you want to have conclusive list, then open your game stats. Every single stat matter, some are more important, some are less, but everything counts
Well, rank isn't irrelevant then. Because if I am being compared against Challenger players, of course their stats will be better so I need to play a challenger standard to get an S Rank?
: Wards and CS are often overlooked idd. I can't stress it enough when people don't understand why they got an A instead of a S, it's mostly about farm, deaths or lack of wards.
Well I placed 6 normal wards and 2 control wards. But I switch my trinket fairly early. Usually 2nd/3rd recall. (9/10 mins). So I don't get a lot of wards down early. But I guess I'm gonna stop giving my support ward kills and take them all myself from now on. Farm was okay for a jungler in 24 mins I feel.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I dealt the 2nd most damage to champions. Most damage to towers. Tanked 2nd most damage. Secured Rift Herald. Don't compare yourself to the other players in your game, because that's not what Riot compares you to either. You're compared to other players that played the **same champion** in the **same role**. So regardless of how well you feel you performed, others have performed better, which is why you only got an A- rank. --- > Would be nice if Riot told us what factors were included in getting S ranks. There are several factors that are included. KDA, CS, objectives, **warding**, etc. You have to excel in all areas if you want an S-rank. Having good KDA doesn't mean much if the rest of your stats is low.
Please clarify on who we are compared to. Those in our MMR bracket, all players of all ranks? We know there are several factors, but it would be nice to have a conclusive list.
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: How long did the game last? How much CS did you have by the end of the game? What was your kill participation %? How many wards did you put down, how many wards did you clear?
Game lasted 24 mins. I had 94 CS (was busy ganking like crazy/counter ganking coz my team weren't warding, typical blind pick). Kill Participation was 18/35 so ~50%. I placed 6 wards and 2 control wards. I cleared 'none' as I allowed others to get the last hits. Probably assisted the clearing of 7/8 tho.
Rioter Comments
: I don't have special needs, like every human my only needs are : Food. Water. Sleep. And s#xuall Sat#sfaction. Nobody really has special needs, since anything but these things listed above are optional needs which only increase the comfortable life for a human being. Now how may i put this in a way for you to might understand. It is impossible to proof or know that 100% of the entire premade community is toxic, same as it is impossible for something to ever be in the 100% majority, it will always give exceptions and it is logically impossible that EVERY premade is toxic, thank you very much. And i hope you do understand that you can't call somebody an inferior human because they haven't mastered a new language yet, same as from your position you are unable to call an human inferior, the only ones able to do that are beings higher in the ladder of might than a human, better described as 'gods'. I hope you do remember what happens if you ever oppenly state that you de-grade humans just because they don't agree with your way of thinking or they didn't master a language yet, most likely ugly things. Also on a side-note, just because somebody is not from EUW it does not mean they are not allowed to speak or state their oppinion in this post, please leave such comments for in-real life confrontations if you have the courage to do so :)
I spend most of my free time in Camden. So should you ever find yourself in Camden, come pay me a visit at The Stables. We'll see how big you are then. I haven't played 10k games? I played 1200 last season. Trust me, I don't give a damn if Riot deletes this.
: i actually do not. but im not on the boards to argue with some pissy kid so good day to you.
Except you just did.
: Ribbons don't exist anymore, plus if you don't say anything wrong you won't get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesperr101,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=tMEqFEHZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-17T02:15:18.930+0000) > > Ribbons don't exist anymore, plus if you don't say anything wrong you won't get punished. Considering I have one, they do. And I don't speak in game but I have a CR?
Rioter Comments
Nixodelic (EUNE)
: {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Thanks for further proving my point.
Nixodelic (EUNE)
: What a clown xD {{champion:35}}
Point in case.
: Cool, whatever. You say whatever floats your boat I guess. Also, using your dead cat as a shield against my opinion is a weaklings way to fight.
I don't need to prove a damn thing. The burden of proof lies with the accuser, not the accused.
: Me and probably thousands more. You probably played premade games too but I'd hardly see anyone enjoy playing with you or you not being toxic yourself.
Never played duo in my entire league career. I don't need to hold games hostage.
ChrisMac (EUW)
: I HATE Premades.
And lookie here. Another game with premades, and the first thing they both say is 'PREMADE BOT OR FEED' after someone has ALREADY called and locked in ADC. Yep, tell me again how premades don't troll and hold games hostage.
Nixodelic (EUNE)
: Brilliant arguments :D Dude, for real, stop embarrassing yourself. Get a new game, a hobby, a girl maybe? Life? Those can help. I'm outta here. EUNE DOMINATION :D {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
The fact you use emoticons mid sentence shows how immature you are. And the fact you sign off your posts with a picture ... You're about 8 years old. As for get a new game, a hobby, a girl? That's cute. I'm ranked higher than you'll ever be ranked so I don't need a new game. A hobby, I have many, many hobbies, League being one of them. A girl? I've been married for the last 8 years. Perhaps you should stop making assumptions. The only thing EUNE dominates is the cesspool.
Zanador (EUNE)
: I never mentioned your family. I only said "You do want to talk to someone, probably someone you know", and you immediately associated to your family. And suddenly you got angry. But since indeed i'm not a professional, i'll stop here. I don't want to make things worse for you when i came here to offer help. Bye
You literally inferred that my family neglected me _'which makes the chances of neglect i mentioned before higher' _ and now you're gonna try and deny it? You really are dumb. No, you're not a professional, and should I ever be in a position where I need psychological help, I'll seek help from a professional, not some jumped up little kid from the middle of nowhere. You think I'm angry? Look, at you, still making assumptions. The fact is, I'm laughing at how pathetic you are. If I was angry, you wouldn't be online.
: Its not an assumption its the only logical conclusion, because it's nearly impossible that you only find premades who troll or flame or whatnot. If you wanna hate all premades fine.... but you might as well quit league at this point because you will not enjoy the game like this. I said everything there was to say.... bye.
No, it's an assumption. The fact of the matter is you assumed I look for a reason to blame why a game goes badly, however, this post was made BEFORE I even played the game that made me post it. And that's because I knew they were premade BEFORE going into the game. So don't make assumptions. I wont enjoy the game? That explains why I've been playing since Beta? Coz I hate the game? You really are dumb.
: Maybe thats your perception because you only start looking for flaws on your team when games go bad. When you win you don't even notice the premades.^^
No, I know who is premade before the game even starts because I have LoLKing and op.gg open. Don't make assumptions before reading the whole thread.
: Your whole post was just made ranting about all the premades, and trying to set a stereotype of EVERY premade being toxic and trolls, which i have prooven wrong by the mere existance of the relation and in-game behaviour of me and my girlfriend, i am quite sure i got your point, but you are too much of a stubborn to open your eyes and see that not every premade is exactly like you explained it.
Except EVERY premade IS toxic.
: If it's not too exhausting for Your Majesty, you can always go and use the google translate, to get a rough translation to what it means, or you can just read my first text again which is already written in english, hey look i even sorted out the parts that might have confused your way of thinking.
You clearly missed the point. I can read it perfectly in both English and German.
: i dont mind you not being happy, wanna flame? go for it, you'll get whats coming for you in the end.
No one said anything about flaming. The fact you assumed I'd flame someone means you do it yourself. Those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Katslayer (EUW)
: But that's literally not true?
But it literally is. Prove me wrong. You can't.
: and where are these rules written down aye? you cannot expect everyone to play as YOU wish. i myself played some "stormtrooper" orianna toplane the other day, i had *fun*. the meta changes, lucian or jhin mid was a thing, and ofcourse people will start trying new ways of playing the *game*
Go ahead, play something off meta, just don't be a troll about it. If you wanna take Ori top, go ahead, but when you get stomped don't expect me to be happy about it.
: he is still under the roll Marksman.
So play him where he is meant to be played. Mid or ADC, not top lane. Top lane is for tanks and bruisers. And some mages.
Katslayer (EUW)
: I always play with a few friends, so I guess that makes me a premade? We're always super friendly to the random(s) in the team, so no, you are incorrect. Not every premade is toxic or does troll picks. The world isn't black and white.
Yes. If you're premade, you're toxic.
: i would have upvoted rather than downvotes this if it didnt include: >EVERY premade and >Yeah good job you special needs kids.
I really don't care for your upvote. It's true, that's all that needs to matter.
Hosua (EUW)
: no its just the mouthy premades. like alot of league players are premades but they dont say anything in chat. its the case of one bad apple spoils the bunch; u remember the toxic premades more than the quiet or nice ones
No, it's ALL premades. I'd wait for you to find me a non-toxic premade, but you can't because they don't exist.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChrisMac,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3TG1X6m,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-16T20:07:10.030+0000) > > Except that fact I stream for a living means I DO get paid to play League. When I play it on stream. So yeah... > > And Huni is an average pro. Nothing he does stands out. I dunno what I'm talking about? Mkay. > > A lot of people told me 1+1 = 3, does that mean 1+1 = 3? No. It still equals 2. > A lot of people told me my name is Bob. Does that mean my name is Bob? No. My name is still Chris. > A lot of people thought the world was flat, guess what? They were wrong. > > Just coz a lot of people think the same thing, doesn't mean they are right. > > Remember, smart people always appear crazy to dumb people. So first off i didnt say you dont get paid, i said i doubt it, and still do; just like i doubt 'a lot' of people have told you 1+1=3 or that your name is bob. And dont even get me started on the world is flat bs. Since you wont be reasoned with and are now resorting to making up random bs this will be the end of our conversation. I sincerely hope you get help.
First off, I don't care what you doubt. Fact of the matter is you can't prove otherwise, I can - but I don't need to. Clearly, you missed the point, you're a bit of a special ed student aren't you? I can be reasoned with, if you can prove me wrong, however, you can't.
GLurch (EUW)
: >It's 2017. Maybe 1 person in every 500 you play with will be new. That's a pretty bold statement. If you want me believing you, you'll need actual sources. >Not getting personal. Just saying I have a better game knowledge than you. And I never claimed I knew more than a pro. Yes, and I never claimed mine to be better. I was talking about pros, I never even mentioned myself. >I know they aren't new because they own Jax and Ekko. New players don't buy Jax and Ekko. Why not? They just need to play a few games and purchase the champion. That's all. >No, he really isn't/wasn't better than me. If I'd bothered trying and spent more than 20 seconds a time looking at my PC screen I'd have had a better score. Simple fact of the matter is, you were not in the game so you can't judge who was better because you have no context. Only stats, and stats lie. Again, that's not the point. He may be worse than you, but still, he performed better than you. >And I don't care what sources you wanna quote. I use LoLKing and op.gg EVERY game and it tells you who is premade. Don't try and lie to me. If you don't feel like using sources or believing sources, you shouldn't go to the boards, a place where you discuss. Seriously, this place may just not be for you. You'll find no one to believe you this way either. Now, just let me tell you what probably many here are thinking of you: You are a new player and have little knowledge. You think your teammates are at fault for everything, while you are the one at fault. If you perform bad or do mistakes, you claim to have done them on purpose, while you're actually just bad. Also, you claim to be very good at the game somehow (I mean, you even claim Huni, one of the probably best players out there, is terrible at the game, like wtf). I'm not saying you are this way, but it looks like this to everyone. If you can't accept critique, these boards are seriously not the place for you.
You can't prove me wrong because you have no way to prove me wrong because I am correct. And no, I don't have to prove I am right, you have to prove I am wrong. Remember, innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is on you, not me.
: False.
Not false. You're also EUNE so don't speak.
: Me and my Girlfriend never use Trollpicks, Kog'maw and Maokai might be considered off-meta but not a trollpick botlane combo, and it has worked great by now, and if someone else gets support she kindly asks if she can have the role, and if they refuse she just takes the role she if given, so i don't know where you're coming from, i've also never met the kind of people you explained in this post.
Say that again in English please?
: I played hundreds of games with an irl friend as premades and not a single one were us flaming or saying "give us bot or u're reported" your arguments have no backup except that one game you played. Your "every premade is toxic because I say so" has no proof and is already wrong because I played premade games myself without flaming anyone yet you still continue to refuse that you are wrong, which is a fact. Not wasting my time anymore with people like you.Already explained what kind of person you are lmao.
Still waiting for you to find me a premade that isn't toxic.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChrisMac,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3TG1X6m,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-16T18:50:21.725+0000) > > I get paid* to play, doesn't mean I'm good does it? I highly doubt you get paid to play this game, either way saying a pro player who plays for the best team is bad just shows that you have no idea what your talking about and that you have no intention of listening to reason. You have been told by several different people that what your saying is wrong and you just wont accept it.
Except that fact I stream for a living means I DO get paid to play League. When I play it on stream. So yeah... And Huni is an average pro. Nothing he does stands out. I dunno what I'm talking about? Mkay. A lot of people told me 1+1 = 3, does that mean 1+1 = 3? No. It still equals 2. A lot of people told me my name is Bob. Does that mean my name is Bob? No. My name is still Chris. A lot of people thought the world was flat, guess what? They were wrong. Just coz a lot of people think the same thing, doesn't mean they are right. Remember, smart people always appear crazy to dumb people.
: Sorry but I'm not the one replying to all the comments immediately refusing to accept their opinion and assuming every premade is toxic, then considering off-meta picks "trolling". You're delusional.
There are off-picks and then there is trolling. Were you in the game? No. So therefore you have no context as to whether they were trolling or not. I was in the game, therefore I know they were not 'off-meta' picks, but troll picks. And please, go find me a premade that isn't toxic, I wont wait coz you wont find one.
GLurch (EUW)
: >It's 2017. Maybe 1 person in every 500 you play with will be new. That's a pretty bold statement. If you want me believing you, you'll need actual sources. >Not getting personal. Just saying I have a better game knowledge than you. And I never claimed I knew more than a pro. Yes, and I never claimed mine to be better. I was talking about pros, I never even mentioned myself. >I know they aren't new because they own Jax and Ekko. New players don't buy Jax and Ekko. Why not? They just need to play a few games and purchase the champion. That's all. >No, he really isn't/wasn't better than me. If I'd bothered trying and spent more than 20 seconds a time looking at my PC screen I'd have had a better score. Simple fact of the matter is, you were not in the game so you can't judge who was better because you have no context. Only stats, and stats lie. Again, that's not the point. He may be worse than you, but still, he performed better than you. >And I don't care what sources you wanna quote. I use LoLKing and op.gg EVERY game and it tells you who is premade. Don't try and lie to me. If you don't feel like using sources or believing sources, you shouldn't go to the boards, a place where you discuss. Seriously, this place may just not be for you. You'll find no one to believe you this way either. Now, just let me tell you what probably many here are thinking of you: You are a new player and have little knowledge. You think your teammates are at fault for everything, while you are the one at fault. If you perform bad or do mistakes, you claim to have done them on purpose, while you're actually just bad. Also, you claim to be very good at the game somehow (I mean, you even claim Huni, one of the probably best players out there, is terrible at the game, like wtf). I'm not saying you are this way, but it looks like this to everyone. If you can't accept critique, these boards are seriously not the place for you.
It's not a bold statement if it's true. My source is that I have more accounts than you. No, you told me I don't have the same knowledge as a pro, which you can't know. Knowledge and execution are two entirely different things. I'm an excellent football coach IRL, but I'm a pretty average footballer. The two are not mutually exclusive. Why not? Coz new players don't buy Ekko and Jax. Ekko is 6300, so no one bothers getting him until later. And Jax isn't used by new players coz there are champs who do the same job for less IP. Again, that IS the point. He's not better than me and never will be. I spent 80% of the game looking at my TV so was just wandering round the map doing nothing so you can't compare because I didn't bother trying. I don't care if you believe me or not. I don't have to prove anything. You have to prove me wrong. And the fact of the matter is, you can't because I use LoLKing and op.gg EVERY game and they show who is premade.
GLurch (EUW)
: >It's 2017. 99% of people are smurfing these days. You MIGHT come across a genuine new player once in every 500 people you play with. So, no, there's no difference. We don't have any actual facts to back that claim up. Seeing as when I smurfed maybe a year ago, I came across a lot of players that claimed to be new, I don't think that changed. League of Legends still does get new players obviously. >Oh, my game knowledge is better than yours. Don't worry about that. We don't have to get personal here. I was talking about pro players. You can't seriously claim you are better than a pro player. >Jax and Ekko were not new. How do you know that? >Oh wait, coz you think I tried? That's cute. I didn't even bother. 80% of the game was spent looking at my TV instead of my PC screen. Again, stats are only there to confirm your own bias. You're saying he performed better based on stats which you can't do. You know, that's one of the arguments many people bring. Fact is: He was better than you in these games. You can't deny it. If you were bad on purpose or not doesn't matter. He performed good. >And no, LoLKing and op.gg ALWAYS indicate premades. I use them EVERY game. Don't try and lie to me. xD They don't though. Here you have a link to a Volunteer stating Riot doesn't give this information out anymore: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/6O7eeLOX-is-there-anything-that-lets-you-know-who-are-premade?comment=0003 If Riot doesn't give this information out anymore, these websites have no way of knowing it (because their only source is Riot). Just add a few people after a game, play maybe 30 games and after that, play one game with each of them. If you check op.gg or lolking, I'm sure these websites won't know they were all your premades. It happened to me before and it still does. A few years ago, these websites were accurate because Riot gave out this information, but they don't do it anymore. Here is another reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2jbskv/lolnexus_no_longer_showing_premades/ As you can see, these websites only show you who you recently played with, not who you are premade with. So no, seriously, I didn't lie. If you want, you can even google it a bit more, I just used some of the first results I found upon searching it up.
It's 2017. Maybe 1 person in every 500 you play with will be new. Not getting personal. Just saying I have a better game knowledge than you. And I never claimed I knew more than a pro. I know they aren't new because they own Jax and Ekko. New players don't buy Jax and Ekko. No, he really isn't/wasn't better than me. If I'd bothered trying and spent more than 20 seconds a time looking at my PC screen I'd have had a better score. Simple fact of the matter is, you were not in the game so you can't judge who was better because you have no context. Only stats, and stats lie. And I don't care what sources you wanna quote. I use LoLKing and op.gg EVERY game and it tells you who is premade. Don't try and lie to me.
: Oh I see the kind of person you are now,you should stop playing this game. Not gonna bother to explain anything to a "I'm always right and there's no way you can prove otherwise" kind of garbage in this community.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
: If we're talking about "troll picks" in normals,there's nothing wrong , they are just trying to have some fun. I agree with the first part of your post but not every premade acts like that.
No, they were trolling. And yes, EVERY premade is like that.
: > [{quoted}](name=ChrisMac,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3TG1X6m,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-16T18:18:24.896+0000) > > Huni's terrible. I guess thats why he get payed to play this game then huh?
I get paid* to play, doesn't mean I'm good does it?
: > [{quoted}](name=ChrisMac,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3TG1X6m,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-16T18:13:03.470+0000) > > Nah I've only been playing for a week /sarcasm. > > I don't care what they're called. Don't play them top lane. Simple. Tell that to huni
Huni's terrible.
GLurch (EUW)
: >Level 1, Ranked, or Worlds Finals. Don't be a troll. Simple. No, the literally shared CS. Not even for Targons. Jax was taking CS even without Targon charges. I don't care if they're new or smurfs, don't troll. Simple. There's a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE difference between ranked or worlds finals and level 1 games. Because a person who is level 1 just started the game and will very likely know next to nothing. Seriously, don't expect level 1 players to have the same knowledge a LCS pro player has. Even you don't have THAT much knowledge. I also checked their CS. Jax had 53 CS while Ekko had 116 CS. Seriously, that's not bad, seeing as they both probably just started playing the game. Even if Jax had taken 0 CS, I doubt Ekko would have had much more. >Stats don't always tell the truth. Stats are only there for you to confirm your own bias. If one player has 40 kills and 0 assists and one player has 0 kills and 40 assists, do you really think the player with the 40 kills was the one doing the work, or just taking the kills? Think about it. If someone is 14/6/7, while you are 3/9/13, it does tell me he performed better than you. He has less deaths, meaning he played it out better or was more careful and he has more kills, meaning he used the opportunities that were given to him better than you did. >LoLKing AND op.gg do tell you if people are premade LOL. I use it EVERY game. Don't try and tell me lies. They seriously don't indicate it always. They sometimes do, but not always. Just don't rely on these websites too much. As long as Riot doesn't have a 100% save way to always show who is premade with whom, these websites can't either, because they get their data from Riot. The MMR they show you is by the way also not true, it's just an estimate of what they think, but for all we know, it could be completely different.
It's 2017. 99% of people are smurfing these days. You MIGHT come across a genuine new player once in every 500 people you play with. So, no, there's no difference. Oh, my game knowledge is better than yours. Don't worry about that. Jax and Ekko were not new. Oh wait, coz you think I tried? That's cute. I didn't even bother. 80% of the game was spent looking at my TV instead of my PC screen. Again, stats are only there to confirm your own bias. You're saying he performed better based on stats which you can't do. And no, LoLKing and op.gg ALWAYS indicate premades. I use them EVERY game. Don't try and lie to me. xD
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