taratos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=1fqmkmUK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-08T01:40:03.095+0000) > > no idea :( > > i would be interested to hear at what point your ticket seems to have stalled. > > in my case, my ticket is about wierd disconnections i have been experiencing since the latest patch, i seem to disconnect specifically on the FIRST (and only the first) time i see the demolish rune being procced AFTER turret plates have fallen, all of my disconnects have happened as the last 'tick' of the rune happens, and the rune becomes 'usable' on a tower. after reconnecting i am able to 'view' the rune proccing with no issues, and when it procs while turret plates are still active, i get no disconnect > > the only RIOT response so far has been to tell me its my processor that is the issue (i am on a dual core... yes its old, but i have had NO issues running the game on high settings until the latest patch) > > a simple google search for 'LoL minimum specs 2019' directs me to this page > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752654-Minimum-and-Recommended-System-Requirements > > which state the 'recommended' processor is a dual core 3ghz processor > > when i asked why i am being directed to this specific page if my processor isnt 'strong' enough i now seem to be being ignored Hey dude, suffering the same problems like the rest, wrote a ticket and got the same answer that its my cpu. I write back i had no pronlem playing with all settings on max until recently then after half a day a different guy answered they already experienced such problems with specific hardware combinations and they very hard to fix so they dont want to give people "hope" by announcing a fix. To lazy to copy paste his answer but he admitted its their fault. What makes me really angry is that i wanted to keep the days playing ranked like mad and now im thinking about qutting league because of they handle the situation. If they go with the actual date i will quit for sure.
i have suddenly been moved to a different CS rep too, this one says he is from the tech team. he starts his reply by telling me to take what the League official site says about minimum specs with a grain of salt, and even though it specifically states that a dual core 3ghz processor is the 'recommended', this is wrong > The minimum system requirements are merely orientative, since they can't cover the specific capability of all the models in that category. Some players with your exact CPU model, but different other parts might be able to run the game just fine. he then goes on to say that even though there are a fair few people on the forums with 'similar' issues, its like that in any game and he ASSURES me they are all different and not related in any way (ie. our fault not RIOTs) > Regarding the other people reporting similar issues, that is pretty much the case with any game forum ever. Our boards have numerous reports of similarly-sounding issues that are each caused by different factors. Crumpled together, they look like the same thing, but I can assure you that they are not. This reflects a lot more visibly in tickets. is his last paragraph he is basically (at least in my opinion) calling me out as a liar and asking for more evidence of my issue (rather snidely imo). knowing from my previous responses i have a rather low end system (that has had, until the latest patch NO issues whatsoever running league) he asks me for a recording of a game in which i experienced the issue and that he would 'pass it on' to the QA team to check if it really is a bug > Now, since you mentioned that your particular issue happens at a very specific moment in the match, could you please send me a recording of this happening? I could use this to check in with the QA team, to possibly classify it as a bug. i sent him the replay file in my league folder of the issue occuring, and am awaiting a response
IsThAtHoOk (EUNE)
: Shop bug
how is that bugged, the 30orb package has 30 in the top right...
: The game frozen, I restart the PC
would be interested to know if the disconnections happen specifically when someone 'procs' demolish rune i have had a string of disconnects that seem to happen specifically when that rune goes off (in my case on SR map, specifically the first 'proc' of demolish after turret plates fall, every other instance of it proccing is fine)
DaShWarrior (EUNE)
: Exaclty the same man the question is how do we proceed?
no idea :( i would be interested to hear at what point your ticket seems to have stalled. in my case, my ticket is about wierd disconnections i have been experiencing since the latest patch, i seem to disconnect specifically on the FIRST (and only the first) time i see the demolish rune being procced AFTER turret plates have fallen, all of my disconnects have happened as the last 'tick' of the rune happens, and the rune becomes 'usable' on a tower. after reconnecting i am able to 'view' the rune proccing with no issues, and when it procs while turret plates are still active, i get no disconnect the only RIOT response so far has been to tell me its my processor that is the issue (i am on a dual core... yes its old, but i have had NO issues running the game on high settings until the latest patch) a simple google search for 'LoL minimum specs 2019' directs me to this page https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752654-Minimum-and-Recommended-System-Requirements which state the 'recommended' processor is a dual core 3ghz processor when i asked why i am being directed to this specific page if my processor isnt 'strong' enough i now seem to be being ignored
DaShWarrior (EUNE)
: Answer to a ticket!
i put in a ticket around 18hrs ago, and noticed that the 'last update' according to the support website is 4hrs ago.... looking at my ticket, the last 'response' was my own message 9hrs ago it seems as though a rioter has looked at my ticket (as shown by the 'last activity' timining) and then ignored it and actioned nothing, not even asked me for more information
: GAME FREEZES BUT COMPLAINS ARE IGNORED BY RIOT
i have recently (since the latest patch) been disconnecting in every SR game i play, it seems to happen the first time i see demolish proc after turret plating has dropped (happened in 4 games so far, all at or within 30secs of the 16 min game mark would be interesting to know if you have shomewhat the same experience
: getting permenant skins i dont like
before you reroll, it tells you it will unlock a permanent skin, if you want the orange essence dont bother with rerolling. your reading comprehension fail i'm afraid
Inf7nite (EUW)
: What about possible +12 armor from rune shards and +9 armor and +5% armor from Conditioning rune?
if he is taking those runes he isnt 'full AP' (or at least not in my opinion) though they would go somewhat to reaching that armor amount
: Well my bad, i dont know his kit well but here is my opgg. Look at the Zed game i played against malphite. He had 340 armor that game.
the passive part of his W gives him 25% bonus armor (tripled while his passive shield holds) he has 100 base armor @18 assuming he had zhonya (i cant see your match history unfortunatly the client is having a fit... :( ) his armor would be 145. 145 + 25% = 181 (with it tripled for the one or 2 hits taken needed to break the shield this is still only 253) either he wasnt 'full AP' or something is bugged edit: its 30% bonus at max rank, my bad, though this still only makes it 274
: Because of his passive. Happened to me last game
his passive gives him a shield based on his max health...
: Question about malphite.
how does he have 300+ armor if he is full AP?
: What did you get as your legendary skin?
nunu bot here.... only i never play nunu (or jungle if i can help it)
: A few month back I started leveling my NA account on aram, and even tho you find a few bots here and there in the first few games, ur mmr catches up to you in a blink The problem isn't that he's level 14. As op said : he has the same experience on his higher level accounts The problem that OP has is simply that he's barely better than those bots and has the same mmr, he wouldn't be getting 1-4 bots every game otherwise OP is using bots as an excuse for his losses
thats a cop out, i mean by your logic, noone ever has the right to complain about feeders right? i mean if they were 'better' they wouldnt be in a game with feeders. > and even tho you find a few bots here and there if by this you mean the majority of low/mid level games.... i recently levelled an account in aram and had MANY MANY MANY games where i was the ONLY human player in the game > he has the same experience on his higher level accounts maybe because botting is more of a problem than you are claiming it is > The problem that OP has is simply that he's barely better than those bots and has the same mmr, he wouldn't be getting 1-4 bots every game otherwise so that makes botting OK??? > OP is using bots as an excuse for his losses and you are white-knighting for RIOT by claiming bots are 'rare'/arent a problem
xarisboss (EUW)
: Man in my country we are telling this not John, Johnny... I want to say it's the same thing right? What if I had them on an account I cannot connect...
lets try again imagine if you went to a movie theatre, and by your own behaviour, you were ejected before the movie finished, would you expect a refund in that situation? its the same thing here, through YOUR OWN bad behaviour, you have been locked out of your account... it was YOUR FAULT, anything associated with the account is lost too
xarisboss (EUW)
: Why riot doesnot give our money back after permaban?
think of it this way, the stuff you unlocked with money is still available on your account, you just dont have access (through your own bad behaviour) to said account
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Yup At the end of the year there will be stuff for <100 prestige points _Why tf can't people read announcements and updates_
> At the end of the year why not just release this store WITH the promotion that gives the PP...
: I just got this strange egg as one of the 10th anniversary rewards...
Sephior (EUNE)
: How is that possibile to not get S for this game?
the enemy jungler with 3 times as many deaths as you outfarmed you.... theres your reason right there
ˆXùˇ (EUW)
: Dude its not gonna help if u type that much lol its easy and simple new acc lvl 14-30 ur gonna find bots. no cap
so your point is basically 'you are levelling expect to see bots'? this is like saying to someone complaining about having feeders 'hey shit happens, stop complaining, feeders are a part of this game' would you also agree with that statement?
Zakir (EUW)
: Honor system is unfair
2 worngs do not make a right them flaming you is no excuse for flaming back
Declined (EUNE)
: Greetings Primovera, You're level 14 so I can understand your frustration, a LOT of bs is happening until you reach level 30, and those botted accounts are unfortunately a part of it :/ If ARAM was removed, the botters would simply switch their focus to different, so your planned solution would only backfire. I do however agree that something ought to be done about it, as based on your description it sounds as if it's running rampant. I personally haven't come across any bots in ARAM over the last.... 4-5 thousand matches.
level up an account playing aram, bots are everywhere there....
ˆXùˇ (EUW)
: ur lvl 14 lol
your point? just because he is levelling, he shouldnt be against bots that RIOT refuse to deal with, or even acknowledge. i had this issue while levelling another account, and was told in a ticket 'bots are rare (1 in 20 games) any evidence you have to the contrary is a lie and we will not discuss this further' and the ticket closed....
haswalt (EUW)
: ARAM bots
RIOT dont care, and if you make a ticket about it they will deny the bots even exist
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=UUOUJQNd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-29T15:13:33.467+0000) > > loving the contradiction here.... > > regardless of whether or not the support taking a few CS (was it a relic shield user by any chance?) YOU flaming him is 'ruin others games, provoke and troll' too no, taking all. constantly. but as all league player you always accuse the worst and refuse to see that someone might complain for a good reason. typical. not surprised.
regardless of whether you think you are justified, it is still considered flaming, which is against the rules ever heard the phrase '2 wrongs don't make a right'?
: not player, but RIOT behaviour
> if i tell my support to stop farm 10times, but he doesn´t. call him a troll. i am not toxic. he is! i am just speaking out the truth! >you should stop protecting this whiney spoiled kids! facts are facts. so finally do something about people intentionally ruin others games, provoke and troll. loving the contradiction here.... regardless of whether or not the support taking a few CS (was it a relic shield user by any chance?) YOU flaming him is 'ruin others games, provoke and troll' too
: When will Ornn get a skin??
according to https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_champions/Skin_catalog there are 30 champions who have gone longer without a skin, for ornn it has been 736 days since his last skin, for skarner its been 1585 days (4.3 years) since his last.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Rename ADC as ADT or ADF for low elo
meanwhile, lets call the 'high elo' ADCs 'ADWASC' (Attack Damage With A Superiority Complex)
: I reported someone for having a negative attitude, but they called me a "dumb ni**er" afterwards.
post game lobby? or after the game he added you as a friend to insult you?
: Ban
> lmToxic StayAway: atleat i wont get banned like you oh the irony
: But call community Garbage (and other stuff) isn't the best way to express your dissatisfaction.
: Apparently what i said is toxic, but outright trolling games, spam pinging me and insulting isn't
you were punished for your own behaviour (the incredibly (imo) toxic chat), not what your team may or may not have done.
: ahri E
i would assume it increases the damage of the return hit by 20%, and then converts it to true damage edit: a quick look at https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Ahri in the info for her E it specifically states The damage amplification also affects the true damage portion of Orb of Deception
Shamose (EUW)
: > First of all I dont flame just because I want to, they were provoking it from me, Im not murdering people because I want to, but the voices command me.
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=bGV72tfL,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-16T11:45:19.758+0000) > > Im not murdering people because I want to, but the voices command me. if you didnt want to, it would be manslaughter, murder requires intent to kill
: global ultimates on level 1 afk!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-BFyYMDcA
: Who is justifying anything? --- Afks are punished btw, even if not as hard as toxic people. If you were to be put in the situation where you'd need to call for a punishment in 100 cases, what do you think would your sucess-rate be? 50%? 60%? 100%? I'd argue that you'll most likely hit 50% since most people are not "running it down" but covering it in one way or another. How do you expect current automated systems to have comparable performance to humans? This, of course, is no justification for trolls not being punished, but it's not an ignored problem. You could just type out what your alternative to this system is.
> How do you expect current automated systems to have comparable performance to humans? and this right here is my point if the automated system is not picking up toxicity, then maybe, i dont know, find something different? but Riot continue to hide behind 'its automated, how can you expect it to be as good as a human' > You could just type out what your alternative to this system is. or alternativly, the people paid by Riot to do just that could, you know, do their job...
: Type out your thoughts already, bud.
i was just wondering if the 'they are automated' was a justification as to why chat is punished but feeding/afk isnt....
: > It's literally favouritism because the people who handle the player behaviour system are lonely people. just to point out that no single person is responsible for punishment.
except if it were automated, that would mean noone looks into it right?
: 1. The system is automated 2. Riot views cases of toxicity separately - no matter what others say, if you slip up and flame or engage in any kind of toxic behaviour you'll be punished.
> [{quoted}](name=HIVSuperposition,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1IkAobd3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T14:29:26.647+0000) > > 1. The system is automated your point?
xFrosten (EUW)
: I think it's pretty ignorant of you to deny that people can be THAT bad. You don¨t know who is sitting behind the other players screen, and they do not deserve to get punished, just because you feel like they don't know enough about the game. Let me give you an example. The player in the world who has the most mastery points on Heimerdinger (8 million+) is actually braindamaged. Like legit braindamaged from an accident, he plays the game and of course his plays are insanely bad. But that's just because he doesn't know better. What is logical thinking for you, might not be as logical for other players and going 0 10 or the likes does not mean that they automatically intentionally feed. Intelligence is also something that varies a lot from person to person, so believing that there is no one more unintelligent than you, is just purely wrong. As for the scores, I checked your match history and you have 2 games that would classify as intentional feeding (at least with your logic). You played Ezreal both games scores: 0 7 5 3 8 5 It might not be as many deaths as them, but from 8 deaths to 11, there is not a huge difference. And also I don't know how long the different games lasted. Lastly if you feel like you deserve a higher rating and you play without tilting, then you will naturally climb, one game is not gonna ruin that for you.
> The player in the world who has the most mastery points on Heimerdinger (8 million+) is actually braindamaged. Like legit braindamaged from an accident, he plays the game and of course his plays are insanely bad. does he play public matchmade games? or does he play with friends?
x Akali (EUNE)
: Problem with autofill protection and remake.
working as intended, all autofill protection does is give you one of your 2 prefered roles in the next 2 lobbies (which as you say yourself it did). if you/your team decide to remake, thats on you
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EhV1EEAT,comment-id=00000001000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T12:04:54.597+0000) > > and that right there is the issue > > they claim that they DO NOT TOLERATE certain phrases, but then when you use them, they are tolerated, and Riots excuse 'hurr hurr it was private chat hurr hurr' > > you realise that 'cant' and 'wont' are 2 comletely different words, its not that they CANT moderate private chat, its that they WONT because of policy, and even after TOLERATING those words they maintain they dont tolerate them (by saying the have a zero tolerance towards those phrases which is PROVABLY false) > > except private chats are within the game client, and discord is completely seperate, nice false analogy :) > > through THEIR OWN CHOICE, using the privacy policy as a shield, and yet even with 'no control' as you say, they still maintain that those phrases are zero tolerance... why is this? First, It isn't their choice. They can either have private chat or not have it. There isn't middleway option like "private, but with moderating". No-one else is supposed to see the messages in private chat, hence the term private. Riot is offering platform for the private messages but isn't affecting the actions on platform in any shape or form. Much like Google is moderating public chat on Youtube, they won't moderate whatever you write through Gmail. That would besides be illegal for them. While I have no knowledge how in legal terms League of Legends' private chat functions, I don't think it would be stretch to assume it may at least seem questionable in juridical view if they claim they have private chat section, and then silently watch what is going on in it. Secondly, Read my whole text, not just sentences. The reason I compared private chat into discord is because they behave exactly alike. Riot emplyee isn't supposed to know what you say/write in discord, Riot employee isn't supposed to know what you write in private chat. Don't try to use fallacies, please. They aren't making you look any better. And finally to repeat myself, the words mentiones (k** etc.) are 0 tolerance, because upon Riot employee or system detecting them they may lead to instant punishment. Read the confidentiality article. In private chat you are allowed to say whatever you want, but in public chat not. In eyes of Riot the things said in private chat were never said.
> First, It isn't their choice. They can either have private chat or not have it. so they dont have a choice, but they have a choice... awesome contradiction right there... > Riot is offering platform for the private messages but isn't affecting the actions on platform in any shape or form. they are offering a chat system then completely distancing themselves from any toxicity in said chat, all while at the same time maintaining that certain phrases are zero tolerance, even though they are tolerated, again nice contradiction > Much like Google is moderating public chat on Youtube, they won't moderate whatever you write through Gmail yet google dont go around saying phrases that are tolerated are zero tolerance > The reason I compared private chat into discord is because they behave exactly alike. doesnt make it any less of a false analogy, Riot dont police discord because they CANNOT, however they WONT police 'private' chat because .... reasons. see the difference, i would concede this point if for some reason Riot COULDNT police 'private' chat, but thats not the case, they CHOSE not to > And finally to repeat myself, the words mentiones (k** etc.) are 0 tolerance, repeating it doesnt make it true, the FACT of the matter is, those phrases ARE tolerated in 'private' chats, therefore calling those phrases zero tolerance is a flat out LIE > In eyes of Riot the things said in private chat were never said. again with the contradiction, things that WERE said, WERE NOT said.... ok
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Conphucius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EhV1EEAT,comment-id=000000010001000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-12T10:47:56.099+0000) > > so lets take a look at Glurch's first sentence > > > if there are cases where this doesnt happen (as implied by the statement 'doesnt have to be the case') how can this even remotely be called ZERO tolerance.... when there IS a place it is tolerated How many times does it have to be explained: Riot doesn't moderate private messages, due to their privacy policy. This means for Riot these discussions you had in private chat never happened, no matter if they are screenshotted or what. Private chat is in this sense the same as if you had discussion with another person in discord etc. Riot has no control over it because having control over it would contradict their privacy policy. It is much like [confidentiality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidentiality) as situation. However, the second you step into game lobby you are in public chat. Chat that is moderated by Riot. Chat in which K-word can almost instantly get you banned. Therefore K-word is 0 tolerance word.
> How many times does it have to be explained: Riot doesn't moderate private messages, due to their privacy policy. and that right there is the issue they claim that they DO NOT TOLERATE certain phrases, but then when you use them, they are tolerated, and Riots excuse 'hurr hurr it was private chat hurr hurr' you realise that 'cant' and 'wont' are 2 comletely different words, its not that they CANT moderate private chat, its that they WONT because of policy, and even after TOLERATING those words they maintain they dont tolerate them (by saying the have a zero tolerance towards those phrases which is PROVABLY false) > Private chat is in this sense the same as if you had discussion with another person in discord etc. except private chats are within the game client, and discord is completely seperate, nice false analogy :) > Riot has no control over it through THEIR OWN CHOICE, using the privacy policy as a shield, and yet even with 'no control' as you say, they still maintain that those phrases are zero tolerance... why is this?
GLurch (EUW)
: Now you're acting like it's completely false, which it isn't. Riot doesn't tolerate these words in the game, which is why they punish for them. You're just overcomplicating things. It's like having a debate over whether or not the earth is round. Yeah, it isn't round, it's an oblate spheroid/ellipsoid, but saying it's round is easier for everyone and everyone still understands it, plus it's not completely wrong either.
> Now you're acting like it's completely false, which it isn't. except it is false.... 'zero tolerance' =/= 'we will tolerate it in some places but in others we wont... because policy' > Riot doesn't tolerate these words in the game last i checked, the client was part of the game... > It's like having a debate over whether or not the earth is round. Yeah, it isn't round, it's an oblate spheroid/ellipsoid so it IS NOT round, but lets call it round anyway... shot yourself in the foot there didnt you? > but saying it's round is easier for everyone and everyone still understands it, plus it's not completely wrong either. just because its 'easier' doesnt make it right (as you yourself stated ' Yeah, it isn't round, it's an oblate spheroid/ellipsoid') and yes it is completely wrong, round =/= oblate sheroid
E420 (EUW)
: I am not exactly sure how "rules" are working outside the game (like client in this case), thus have no opinion on that. I think GLurch gave a decent overal description on zero tolerance.
so lets take a look at Glurch's first sentence > "Zero tolerance words" in League of Legends refer to words that can (doesn't have to be the case) get you the harshest possible punishment for a first offense in toxicity, which is a 14 days ban. Death threats, along with homophobic slurs, racist slurs and so on belong to that category. if there are cases where this doesnt happen (as implied by the statement 'doesnt have to be the case') how can this even remotely be called ZERO tolerance.... when there IS a place it is tolerated
: Theres a rotating Circle around ur Ping (top left corner)
i have disconnected in the loading screen before and the circle was still going round.... it means nothing
: Wow you really don't want to believe or even concider anything that goes against your beliefs lol, in that case just keep believing whatever you want and I'll just see my way out > even in a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty, but in this situation, you seem to imply that i am guilty (of doctoring the screenshots) and they choose not to even attempt to prove the innocence (that the screenshots are genuine) because.... policy..... No offense but this is absolutely %%%%%%ed, the person that provides evidence isn't the defendant, they are not guilty or innocent, but that doesn't mean that a court is just gonna accept anything you give them as the truth, your claims are gonna be verified and if there's no way for them to verify those claims then they can't be accounted for, which is exactly the same here
> the person that provides evidence isn't the defendant because a defendant is not given due process right? i mean they are not interviewed in a police station and never asked what happened, and therefore they cannot give any evidence right? > your claims are gonna be verified and if there's no way for them to verify those claims then they can't be accounted for, which is exactly the same here last i checked 'no way for them to verify those claims' and ' it's against their policy to look into those messages' were 2 completely different things, which is it?
GLurch (EUW)
: If we're exactly going by the dictionary for every little word, like ultra precisely, you're going to create more misunderstandings than you originally wanted to clear up. Most players understand it and if you do just a little research, you'll understand the phrase as well. It's just easier than for *everyone* (both the players and Riot Games) to say "words that can cause an immediate 14 day ban, but don't necessarily have to, and only apply to the in-game, pre-game and post-game chat".
so lets just call it something it isnt... much better right?
: the difference is that it was your choice to add this person and start talking to them in the first place, you should have known what you were getting yourself into, unlike when you just want to play a game and you randomly have people being toxic to you There are plenty of reasons why they wouldn't punish over private message screenshots : - The first and biggest reason would be that the screenshots could be forged and therefore not valid evidence, they would need to check the messages themselves to verify your evidence, which would be against their policies - Even if you do show them screenshots of private messages, it's against their policy to look into those messages, regardless of the sources and therefor acknowledging those messages would be a violation of their policy if that makes sense - The ban system isn't adapted to that kind of situation, riot would need to rebuild their reform system so that it includes private messages as reason for the ban in the refom card, which at the same time would cause an uproar if this came to light as it would be seen as if riot had violated their privacy policy Try to actually think about these things from riot's perspective instead of just seing everything as evidence that they're some kind of liars
> the difference is that it was your choice to add this person and start talking to them in the first place, you should have known what you were getting yourself into, i could just as well say 'it was your decision to hit the play button, you should have known what you were getting yourself into' > unlike when you just want to play a game and you randomly have people being toxic to you how is 'adding a random person' any different to 'being matched with a random person after ACTIVLY MAKING THE DECISION to hit the play button > The first and biggest reason would be that the screenshots could be forged and therefore not valid evidence, they would need to check the messages themselves to verify your evidence, which would be against their policies even in a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty, but in this situation, you seem to imply that i am guilty (of doctoring the screenshots) and they choose not to even attempt to prove the innocence (that the screenshots are genuine) because.... policy..... > Even if you do show them screenshots of private messages, it's against their policy to look into those messages, regardless of the sources and therefor acknowledging those messages would be a violation of their policy if that makes sense yet they still maintain that the phrases are 'zero tolerance' when, due to their own (stupid) policy they are forced to tolerate those same phrases... how can you not see the massive contradiction here > The ban system isn't adapted to that kind of situation, riot would need to rebuild their reform system so that it includes private messages as reason for the ban in the refom card, which at the same time would cause an uproar if this came to light as it would be seen as if riot had violated their privacy policy again, why do they maintain that the phrases are zero tolerance when that is NOT the case
: Riot does not look at people's private messages, it's part of their privacy policy You can't say a word isn't zero tolerance because it isn't punished when riot isn't aware it's been used
except i have personal experience that leads me to belive that the word IS NOT zero tolerance. i put in a ticket about someone that i added after a match telling me to kill myself, wishing my family dead and wishing i had cancer and ebola. Riots first 'excuse' was what you describe 'its private chat we dont know what was said, therefore we will do nothing'. When i mentioned the screenshot i had sent with the ticket, the 'excuse' suddenly changed, to 'its private chat, you could have left at any time'. When i asked the support agent to justify chat bans (if, being able to leave a private chat is reason enough not to punish so called zero tolerance phrases, why then is the mute button not reason enough to not punish so called zero tolerance phrases, again, isnt this a massive contradiction) he closed the ticket with no answer
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Private chats are PRIVATE Riot has no control over private chats We're talking about ingame chat here, not private chat Sure, riot should punish people for private messages too imo, but they choose not to And in private messages people can joke around with their friends without the pressure and threat of other random people seeing it and being offended etc. So i can understand why private messages wouldn't be punishable So it's kind of a hit or miss situation
> Private chats are PRIVATE Riot has no control over private chats and Riot has not control over in game chat either (as evidenced by people using such phrases) tell me, why is one punished but the other not? > We're talking about ingame chat here, not private chat we are talking about whether or not '%%%' is zero tolerance or not, and being that the phrase IS tolerated somewhere within the client, to call it 'zero tolerace' is misleading at best, a flat out lie at worst > Sure, riot should punish people for private messages too imo, but they choose not to so they choose not to punish it in certain places, but maintain that the phrase is 'zero tolerance' isnt this a contradiction?!? > And in private messages people can joke around with their friends without the pressure and threat of other random people seeing it and being offended etc. So i can understand why private messages wouldn't be punishable are you trying to imply the phrase is subjective? why then is it punished?
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