: > [{quoted}](name=Cornspies,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=8YYuAodH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-05T18:27:52.763+0000) > > Looks more like a too much overclocked RAM. Wait a second, you can overclock ram???
Of course
: Nice client
Looks more like a too much overclocked RAM.
Rioter Comments
Sontax (EUNE)
: Lets compare this game to a rising Fortnite. **Player support**: **Fortnite** : It is possible to accidentally get banned for Fortnite due to bugsplat and similar stuff. All you have to do is explain what happened and you will be unbanned. **LoL** : No matter if it was storm outside or bugsplat you will not get your leaver buster lifted because "they have to respect" authorities. **Gameplay**: **Fortnite**: Epic games are constantly trying to improve their game by adding (and removing) stuff from their game, they listen to their whole community and seek advices from them. Players get matched up with all kinds of players which sometimes sucks. **LoL** : Mostly professional players get their right to vote, game is tuned for LCS tournaments because today its their most important money source. Matchmaking is basically broken because you get paired with low players and get matched up with high skill players which forces you to feel bad and spread that feeling through the game which eventually leads to (again penalties). **Overall**: Both games are money hungry but feels like Fortnite is try-harding because they have a lot to achieve unlike LoL which doesn't put any more effort like they did before, new champions are losing sense (execution R and very high damage) their new updates are getting worse and they have Remake system which doesn't work and its really ruining the game for both sides (First blood and reconnect detection doesn't work anymore).
Thats what Riot was in the first years. Now they simplay think they can decide and the community will follow. I personally don't like Fortnite, because this kind of game isn't my cup of tea. But the game is well designed and really good organized, instead of Riots spaghetti code with cheese and salt.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Oh no, a random stranger that I don't know whatsoever disagrees with me on the internet! What shall I do?! I know! I claim to know more because apperently I have played more! That'll do it. And while I'm at it I also claim to be insulted and play the victim, because this is what helps my case! Aha, but I also say I am flexible and say I can adapt opinions and everyone else can't, despite the fact that I am the one who completely ignores everything everyone who disagrees with me is saying. Oh man, I am so much more experienced and smarter than anyone on this thread! And don't forget that obviously all of this is Riots fault too, because %%%% 'em.
You can't discuss, because you can't follow the discussion rules. No need to talk to such players. Go and lick Riots ass ore and more until the game die.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=U6ExwuRw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-06T19:26:00.778+0000) > > That's a very huge claim for something that is just an "opinion" My thought exactly. You can’t call it an opinion if you’re accusing Riot without evidence. I’m not a Riot fanboy but they’re doing what the community has been asking for for months for the last few patches (I.E. ADC nerfs).
> I’m not a Riot fanboy but they’re doing what the community has been asking for for months for the last few patches (I.E. ADC nerfs). They nerfed adcs, because they had too much impact in early phase, as pros said. They changed adcs for the competetive aspect. Asking for Dominion hasn't helped. They do what they want to do. That's their right to do, it is a company, but I don't believe they care about the Community, otherwise I would see at least one Riotler here.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: There are no numbers
So what is the conclusion? Both opinions are right? We can't prove it? Riot can tell us what they want? No need to insult here, I still believe that disscussion can be hold with rules.
Zanador (EUNE)
: COMMUNITY/PLAYER BEHAVIOUR I don't know. Maybe you are playing the wrong mode, the wrong elo or the wrong something, but my experience is completely different. I only see a flamer once every couple of days and while i do get teammates who get crushed fast, and a few go afk, but it has been weeks since the last time i had a real intentional feeder in my matches. Add to this the fact that the boards are littered with topics by people who got punished for flaming, leaving just once and so on, and i just can't agree with you on this completely. And Riot not caring about it? Then why did they spend millions of dollars and over 6 years into developing a system that is more advanced than anything you can show in the industry today? GAMEMODES/MAPS Yeah, alternative maps are kind of forsaken. 3v3 would need champions to be completely redesigned in the first place, ARAM is random as it's name says, and then there was Dominion. You see, long time ago there was a big map in the making named Magma chamber which would feature 7v7 teamplay and multiple big objectives as far as we have heard it was a design mess, but Riot was kind of desperate to push out a unique game mode, since people like you claimed that League would die if Dota 2 was released and LoL didn't have any unique modes yet. Well, they were wrong, but Riot still rushed out the map to be sure. In the end i think the reason why it was never included in the rotating game modes is because of how many people want it back seriously. Modes like ARURF and the rest can get away with being silly imbalanced messes because most people don't play more than a couple of games on them to relax. But the few people who loved it are passionate about Dominion and Riot is probably afraid to just release it for a week as it is. It would be a disaster without beta testing and massive balancing effort, yet the fans would surely ask Riot to keep it permanently. Would you and the others be satisfied by seeing Dominion once or twice every year or would you demand more? CHANGES/PATCHES I kind of agree to the extent that Riot has hit us with a good amount of massive changes in this season. There was a lot of thins we had to learn again and some more are in the making as it seems. But i also remember the first four ranked seasons when the meta first formed. People kept saying that League was dying because it became stale and stagnant and nothing ever changed. So which one is it? Dying because it's changing or dying because it is not? Which one would you choose? CHAMPIONS/ABILITIES Oh, people do not dictate the balance changes? Yeah, each individual, me included will have several things we don't like in each patch. That is inevitable since each player wants different things and "balance" is not something everybody agrees on. But look at champions like Shaco, Nasus, Heimer, Fiddlesticks, Karthus and a lot more. Riot said that they could rework them and make them viable in competitive game too, but they would lose some aspect people loved about them. People wanted to keep them as they are, even if they had to be nerfed to avoid become game breaking, or just not getting buffed once they faded away from the meta. And would you look at that, item, meta and rune changes brought Nasus and Shaco back in a major way. There are a lot champions in League, depending on how you count them, who are not in the current meta for one reason or another, but quite many of them are actually strong, and weren't nerfed since they were in the spotlight. People just forgot about them, or the meta shifted away a bit. For example with the shorter matches now, the extremely late-game oriented champions are too risky now. But they are not weak. They don't need buffs. They only need dedicated people and the right moment to come back. CONCLUSION Do you want to see a dying game? Go check out anything about Bless online now. That game was overdue, 2 years of extra development spent on nothing tangible, resources directed at minor problems instead of the big ones and they didn't change anything up in order to adapt. Apparently they did nearly everything you suggested Riot should do. I can't agree with you.
Thanks for your comment, I respect your point of view but I still want to talk back about some things you mentioned: > Oh, people do not dictate the balance changes? Yeah, each individual, me included will have several things we don't like in each patch. That is inevitable since each player wants different things and "balance" is not something everybody agrees on. But look at champions like Shaco, Nasus, Heimer, Fiddlesticks, Karthus and a lot more. Riot said that they could rework them and make them viable in competitive game too, but they would lose some aspect people loved about them. People wanted to keep them as they are, even if they had to be nerfed to avoid become game breaking, or just not getting buffed once they faded away from the meta. And would you look at that, item, meta and rune changes brought Nasus and Shaco back in a major way. I define balance as somebody between 48%-52% winrate. Those champions are balanced, because you have to be good to win, a better enemy can win against you, but your kit is overall fine and not op or bad. Looking at the actual meta on top we can see that there are only a few champs viable to play, while there are some lost champions which are totally bad and unbalanced. And thats, because Riot is patching much more for competetive than for us usual players. Champions like Heimer, Nasus, Fiddle and Karthus are funny champions, but they are just to weak compared to other champions. Looking on my main champion **Riven** I just can say, that she is quite bad atm, because tehre are counters like wukong, irelia, camille, garen and so on, which totally destroy Riven. And that's because Riot changes a thing, but don't change otehr things too. The Irelia rework brought up a new counter to Riven. Wukong still has highest winrate. And Galio has a 43% winrate. Who cares about Galio? Riot don't. > Yeah, alternative maps are kind of forsaken. 3v3 would need champions to be completely redesigned in the first place, Not the champions, but the map has to be changed. The jungle can be completly reworked and the map a bit updated, so the 3 vs 3 meta (thats double jungle for over a year now) can be slowly connected to the SR ones, so champion balances also affect this tiny map. Sadly Riot doesn't think about anything of that. > I kind of agree to the extent that Riot has hit us with a good amount of massive changes in this season. There was a lot of thins we had to learn again and some more are in the making as it seems. But i also remember the first four ranked seasons when the meta first formed. People kept saying that League was dying because it became stale and stagnant and nothing ever changed. So which one is it? Dying because it's changing or dying because it is not? Which one would you choose? I knew the old times and I see the new ones. I would choose the middle, for sure both is a bad status. I would like to see constant changes, but not so much for one. And there can be a middle. I believe.
: League isn't dying. Can ppl just shut up with this %%%%ing bullshit. Ppl leaving the game is far from the same as the game dying. Yeah, some ppl are leaving, because of course at some point some of the old players are going to get fed up and quit. But new players show up, and eventually we reach an equilibrium where we have as many newcomers as quitters. That's how things work. And yes, eventually the game may start to die, but we are far away from that as things currently stand.
If League isn't dying, please argue with numbers and justify you words. Thanks
Rismosch (EUW)
: What do you expect Riot to do? Fix every single nitpick there is? Oh damn I played terrible and lost, it's Riots fault for making the enemy champion op. Oh damn, I got flamed once, it's Riots fault that the toxic guy is a terrible human being. Oh damn, I stubbed my toe, it's %%%%ing Riots fault for not removing the wall in my house! --- The toxicity became worse? Excuse me, did you even play when tribunal was a thing? It was so god damn aweful. You could literally threaten to troll in champion select and pull through it and never worry about being banned. Today you can get banned for saying literally 3 letters and 3 letters only: "k y s". You can get banned from the mildest insults. This toxicity control is so extreme that people start calling League kindergarten, as you can't blame anyone without fearing to get some kind of punishment. Riot cares only about the most popular, most wanted mode in the game? Damn, which aweful human beings would do that? It's totally Riots fault that the majority of players only want to play one mode and one mode only. Maintainging services is expensive, so why should Riot put money into something only 3 people care about? Ah yes, because those players have feelings, that's why. The funny thing about changes is, that it makes the game refreshing and invites new players in. Oh no, Riot did a change something and nostalgia is kicking in hard? Well, that must mean those new changes are the totally worst that ever happened to this game. Of course the past was better with broken ass champions like Kassawin, Win Zao and LeBroken, or what a trainwreck of a champion Sion, Poppy, Urgot, Yorick, Galio and so many more were. What? Certain champions are not being adressed? Toplane is weak? What? There is a thing called meta and it just happened to be that toplane isn't that good anymore? Oh no, a temporary meta that will go away eventually is so bad and no one does something about it! I am completely ignoring and aware of the fact that the meta shifts and that things will change eventually. And instead of having fun and adapting I am crying about how stupid ADCs are! As if the 2k17 never happened, am I right? I get so god damn angry about all those people who just vomit their thoughts into a post without any proper thought behind it, because emotions are so much more accurate than any decent thought anyone could come up with, no? If the game is so shit, why don't people mass evacuate this place? Oh sorry, people are already leaving? Guess what, people were leaving since the launch of this game, but it also gains new players all the time, which we also completel ignore, don't we? Or how about that: Even if this game would be dying, there are still people that enjoy this game. But instead of acknowledging that and having fun with the remaining playerbase left, lets rant about the game that I do not enjoy to make everyone who likes the game feel bad about themself. All these arguments are so shallow and surfacelevel, it's almost disgusting.
> The toxicity became worse? Excuse me, did you even play when tribunal was a thing? It was so god damn aweful. You could literally threaten to troll in champion select and pull through it and never worry about being banned. Today you can get banned for saying literally 3 letters and 3 letters only: "k y s". You can get banned from the mildest insults. This toxicity control is so extreme that people start calling League kindergarten, as you can't blame anyone without fearing to get some kind of punishment. Oh dude, I definitely play this game longer than you, that's not the question here. Uh you can get banned from writing such things? Oh yes, I think I MENTIONED that. You are such a blinded person, you think you get banned from the mildest insults? Where do you live? Behind the moon? Writing K%s is the only way you can get banned. I got punished two times in the past and both times it was a 10-game CR. For what? For extreme offensive writing. No ban in so many years. And I wrote more than one time k%s in the chat. League isn't a kindergarden, it is more the place you go to everyday lol. > Riot cares only about the most popular, most wanted mode in the game? Damn, which aweful human beings would do that? It's totally Riots fault that the majority of players only want to play one mode and one mode only. Maintainging services is expensive, so why should Riot put money into something only 3 people care about? Ah yes, because those players have feelings, that's why. Nice paragraph lol. I believe you just want to play this game as long as they don't change your stuff. This game is palyed by people, thats how Riot makes money, so maybe you should respect them and do something so everyone is fine? If Riot is going their way, this game will die. Just an opinion. > The funny thing about changes is, that it makes the game refreshing and invites new players in. Oh no, Riot did a change something and nostalgia is kicking in hard? Well, that must mean those new changes are the totally worst that ever happened to this game. Of course the past was better with broken ass champions like Kassawin, Win Zao and LeBroken, or what a trainwreck of a champion Sion, Poppy, Urgot, Yorick, Galio and so many more were. Oh right, changes are always good, as long as they aren't too much. That's my opinion. Oh, you forgot that there were 0.1% players on Urgot who had overall a 56% winrate? Why? Because they knew the champion and the game. Sadly that changed. Sadly. There were always people who played one champion well, just because you were not as good as them this champions weren't just bad. > What? Certain champions are not being adressed? Toplane is weak? What? There is a thing called meta and it just happened to be that toplane isn't that good anymore? Oh no, a temporary meta that will go away eventually is so bad and no one does something about it! I am completely ignoring and aware of the fact that the meta shifts and that things will change eventually. And instead of having fun and adapting I am crying about how stupid ADCs are! As if the 2k17 never happened, am I right? For sure, you didn't read my text. So I don't even have to argue with you lol. > I get so god damn angry about all those people who just vomit their thoughts into a post without any proper thought behind it, because emotions are so much more accurate than any decent thought anyone could come up with, no? Aha, I just vomit my thoughts? I actually argued why I wrote this, next to the thing that I justified them. For sure, read my text once again and then we can talk about. You can't adapt to others opinion, right? Offensive language doesn't help. I don't even need to talk to you, because you insulted me. We can't have a discussion if you not even read what I'm writing. For sure, cool down when you read other opinions and ovethink your language.
Rismosch (EUW)
: Do you even read /ask-Riot? Or the dev blogs they post on the NA boards. Or the videos they post on their YouTube channel? Riot is actually very transparent. They have their own opinions and own philosophy on how to run this game. And just because you exaggerate doesn't mean they are not listening.
My comment is not just about how it could be or is, but also how I feel it. And in MY OPINION it really feels like Riot doesn't care. And I don't see Riot acting and I belive they wom't act. That's why I'm saying those assumptions.
: Ok.. i will be short and say League is dying indeed.. But i dont understand you , you probably wasted 3 hours of your life typing this here for no reason... But hey, here is my opinion : I have red some sentences and I think they definently should bring Dominion back.. yes it was not popular, but is that a reason to remove it? If you dont wanna play dominion then just dont enter that Q... Its Riot's fault that League is dying and personaly, only thing i hate gameplay wise is tanks that build only hp/armor/mr and still can 1v5 and deal incredible amounts of damage.. and ADC's in current meta are just almost useless and 10-0 Lucian can't touch 0-10 Mundo in 15 min of the game.
I did it, because I want that some Riotlers see that and maybe there will be a change or just a think about that. Indeed, it took me over a hour, but it isn't worthless.
Rismosch (EUW)
: > BECAUSE RIOT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS AND THAT'S THE CRTICAL POINT That's a very huge claim for something that is just an "opinion"
I know that it is a risky assumption, but in my opinion it is this way. There is no other good reason for that. Do you can me tell why Riot does nothing? It is just a guess, totally true, but it is a good one. I can't explain it myself in another way.
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: I know your type trying to avoid a problem that's clearly there by dsying it isnt there and this and that and this and that its been said and done they also said just buy a maw and ull fine against rumble yet he got most of his spells nerfed. Oh phanteon is a big counter to riven ? thats just it hes a big counter to every carry type top laner if ur dont wanna be forced into playing singed all the time? swap with ur might? so they can take riven and your left to play against your favorite champ gl renekton counters riven jayce counters riven kennen counters riven and each have clear weakness's exept jayce hes abit overkill i know that when renekton doesnt have his w up theres nothing he can do when i trade with him kennen's w being down means tht he got no way to escape an all in u get what i mean? there is no room for fighing against phan even a champ like irelia that makes her stun her oppnent when losing a trade her biggest counter is pantheon there is no end to him he counters the biggest part of top lane. Its not about getting dmg ... its about how long it takes before u can get it. having 70 farm at 15 min and being a lvl behind good look with buying the items u need there no way for conpesation the amounts of gold and xp u lose against him. the champs toxic bcs his early game is super one sided and to make matter worse he can use his giganitc lead he got in lane with his ult not to mention he can setup ganks really well with w its a really awefull hamp even dsign wise 0 mechnix the only thing i see spartan about him is his ult the rest of his kit couldve been xin zhao's. why rework irelia first when hes in a dire need of rework play quinn top? she lost a bunch of as and if u go for prisnece u dont get preadator from domination also she's a big counter to meelee because her e lets her throw u back but that gets countered by phan w :/ lol whats wrong with titanic? when the enemy team has alot of waays to lock you up ofc you go titanic?? i swear when pro players do it its genius when a p5 does it its weird. yes i do have more loses but u need to have a role in ur team u wanna tank whilst doinng dmg titanic u wanna carry full dmg but that wasnt an option becausee phanteon threw me behind and ww then threw alot of fights by trolling. peeler but my adc did hardly any dmg the only dmg we got was from ez and me. clearly u didnt understand what happened in that match We all losed lane everyone we were so behind i decided to go bruiser and tank for my team whilst ez and sivir diched out dmg also because ww was trolling. which brings me back to my story the lane was totally one sided if he had some weakness's i could use so i could get ahead and carry my team then maybe we coudve won but there werent any thats the problem and yes i did lose against nasus but A i got heavily camped and b he had haste. also i just bought olaf with blue essence and hes fun so! again ofc GA was late bcs i had NO GOLD INCOME holy crap how hard it be to understand what im tryiing to say. also when u werent in my matches u dont know what happened to pls dont talk about it. also read his passive tooltip.... 4 basic attack or spells so if he AA Q AA W he;d have his passive back up do u know how izi it is for him to get that back up?
At the beginning of Season 7 I started maining Riven. And in this time I learned much about League of Legends, I learned to play every matchup how I have to play it. And I never had a real problem with Pantheon. Yes maybe you die from his poke one or two times. But what can he do? Noone can towerdive a good Riven. SO you just farm till you are level 6, starting with e level 1 and leveling e first up. Easy win at level 6. Toxic Champ? Maybe, but not for you anymore. Why? Panth sucks in late, Riven is good in Late. SO you have to play FOR late. not for your early stats or your farm. You just have to wait. When Pantheon roams, ping your team full. Make them to understand that you win it, even you are 0/3. ANd you start pushing everytime, Pantheon is not there. Because I learned one. Panmtheon can't push, he cant clear a wave without loosing half of his mana. And what do you do? You let him loosing mana, in trades that you start with e and block 50% of his damage. Because Panth sucks at two points. You level 6 is better, and if he has got no more pots, he is dead. No mana means no damage. Same like Renekton. I struggled in this matchup, until I learned to wait. Wait for him using his W. Then you win trades easy. If you loose top, there are 3 things you can do: Pushing until nexus while your dumb team is fighting against a fed Pantheon, going full lethality, using shy or any other burst combo and blow their adc and midlaner away or going tank. And hey i prefer no. 1 and 2. Going tank is horrible on Riven, but someone you need it to do. And if you go tank NEVER buy Titanic. This item is useless on Riven. You normally buy this item bc of its active (Jax, Renek, Irelia), an autoattack reset. But Riven got this free with her Q. This item dont give you good enough stats. It hasn#t got a good gold efficienty on Riven. When I go tank, I just build Black cleaver into GA and then a Deaths Dance, after this full tank. Wow i got nopt much HP, but i have the longest sustain of everyone. Deaths Dance give you the AD, you need. Riven without AD is useless. ANd the heal doesnt need much more AD, it doesnt rely on other items. It scales well with tankyness, because you get healed by damage you dealt, and the longer you stay in fight, you deal more damage. BC is a core item and I build is quite everytime. 20% CDR and HP and Armor shred and a little amount of AD synergises perfectly with riven. There is a perfect Riven guide in internet who tells you what Riven needs. AD, then CDR, then ARmor shred and then lifesteal. With this build you got all, and tankiness too. YOu are the perfect offtank to stay next to your adc and kill everything that wants to jump on him. Hydra is also a good item, but I only build it when i go splitpushing. Waveclear is useful then. Otherwise It has no really function, in Teamfight it doesnt help you really, bc you are melee so you cant waveclear without the risc to die, and the little damage you deal with the aoe damage is useless, bc you kill your target in one second or you die in one second. Hope I help you a bit, I'm nopt a Riven Onetrick and also Plat 5, but from your scores I see what you could do better. Use this tips. This is what I know and with that I got from Gold to plat in nearly one month. You have a good winrate on Riven 56%, maybe you can do to 60%?. And dont look uo my Op.GG, I only tryhard in Ranked, so in normals i troll so my score isnt good and i lose games I should have won.

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